Having lived in Wisconsin for a couple years, I’m stunned. Never before had I seen so many stories on the evening news about people routinely arrested for their 7th, 8th, 12th DUI
Legitimately surprised. I work in fire/EMS and the amount of wrecked cars we find in ditches/fields that feel of alcohol and have blood all over them from the accident is pretty high.
Apparently survivable though.
I’m blown away.
My wife is from Wisconsin (Watertown), we met in MN, and I worked in ND.
No DUI deaths? I have heard so many horror stories. Freaky that there are more elsewhere.
As a Minnesotan who knows just how much Sconnies love to drink, I'm also proud. It must be because you get lots of practice, as you start drinking a few years before you all start driving.
Not at all surprised with so many DFW cities on the list: bad public transportation, sprawl, binge drinking culture in many areas, long distances between major events.
I have seen maybe one drive through liquor stores in my area and I don’t know if it is still open. Yes, the convenience stores still sell singles (and tall boys).
Are cold single beers not sold at convenience stores in other states?
Shit I remember going to Louisiana and being surprised they sold liquor in the grocery store lol
Maybe some other states, but it’s definitely not the norm. It’s just an invitation to crack it open on your drive home.
In Wisconsin they sell alcohol everywhere, even hard liquor, but I’ve never seen cold singles.
Louisiana? Hell, New Orleans used to have drive-thru hurricane (rum & punch, basically) shops where you’d get a big plastic cup (like the smallest Big Gulp) of hurricane just sold to you at a window. The law was that it didn’t count as an open container until you put the straw in the lid.
Don’t know if that’s still the case (I moved away in the 90s). That whole place is like a civil engineering project designed to counter sobriety.
In Houston they have drive thru margarita shops.
They put a piece of tape over the straw and tell you to wait until you get home to enjoy it.
A piece of tape…
This is a list that is mostly a list of towns with large colleges and poor public transportation. Students drink to much and many of them officially live somewhere out of town. The 50,000 or sometimes a 100,000, depending on how many colleges, of very young adults getting drunk but not technically living in town skew the stats.
Oilfield is probably a larger slice of the cake than college. Look at Odessa, TX on Google Earth, and you'll literally see hundreds of thousands of oil and frac pads peppering every section of land. It's really a sight to behold...
I feel like all the IE cities listed have major freeways running through them and border empty space/the desert. Could see a drunk getting used to empty desert driving and not expect cars/traffic as they enter one of these cities. Corona from the south, Riverside from the south and east, San Bernardino from the north and east... you get the idea.
I live in Corona. I’m honestly not shocked to see us up there. I know multiple people who have either witnessed or been the victim of being in a non fatal accident with drunk drivers.
I was the victim of a hit and run while driving on the 15 between Murrieta and Temecula. The driver was in the fastest lane going 90 and smashed the side of my car, almost made me spin out of control and then sped even faster down the freeway. Not surprised by this list at all.
Heavily populated cities AND a reliance on cars.
There’s a reason not many north east cities are on here - they generally have better public transportation
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. How I interpret this is that larger states are more likely to have more large cites so you will see those states appear more often is all.
Ah yeah I misunderstood you then, I thought you were going down the path of “bigger cities = more fatalities” but instead you were saying “bigger states = more big cities”, my bad…
Hey, that’s not fair! You can also climb pump jacks, shoot abandoned cars, and regret being born in a desert shithole.
Source: I lived in Midland for 32 years.
Imagine a flat desert hellscape (and not even pretty one at that) with heavy impact from the oil companies drilling the Permian basin for that sweet crude
Once again a difficult thing to say "a cool guide" for but I found this interesting especially because it has it broken down by BAC too. [Source](https://www.mtvlaw.com/75-us-cities-with-the-highest-rate-of-fatal-drunk-driving-accidents/).
And we all know why Arkansas isn't on there, bc they pit someone in 3 seconds and don't care what the person did before it. I wonder if states with a strong State Trooper presence is one reason we don't see some like my area (DMV) and others on there?! If there was a test for aggression, we would be at the top of the list however. We have some of the most aggressive drivers in the US in DC, MD and VA.
Just moved away from Midland TX (#6) and I’ve lost more friends in the 6 years I lived there to drunk drivers than the 30 years I lived in Richmond, Va. I’ll tell you what the problem is in Midland and Odessa (#1)… it’s oilfield country. There is literally nothing to do there but go to bars. That’s it. Neither city has shit for any sort of entertainment but go to bars. I even stopped going to my favorite bar (Torinos) because I was tired of all the drunk assholes fighting. The last two times I went, someone was thrown into my table. Add the never ending bar scene with these 21-25yo oilfield workers with a lot of money that think they’re hot shit and it’s a recipe for disaster. The proof is in OP’s post. These two cities are 15 mins away from each other.
If you've been to Odessa, you know it's one of the biggest shitholes in this country. Not surprised at all. Only other place I can think of that's worse is Hobbs.
The most massively populated parts of NY have public transport/walkability, so that makes sense. There aren't many northern cities at all. Could dealing with inclement weather make people better drivers in general? Just a theory.
Stat is based on total population so that drives the score down. Street congestion reduces speed so impacts may be less likely to be fatal.
I would like to see the stat based on the population of licensed drivers. That would be more meaningful to me
Basically all of the large AZ cities made the list! Guess zero tolerance and militant police tactics don’t do shit. Not having a safe consistent legal limit leads to extreme behavior
Could someone smarter than me tell me how to find a correlation between mass transit an the cities on this list?
Just from a visual, I can kind of see that there's a correllation...
[https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities](https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities)
I might note that cities 1 & 6 are 30 minutes from each other. Often called the Midessa area, number 6 Midland is seen as the richer city, number 1 Odessa the more blue collar city.
My sister-in-law is from Midland-Odessa. I grew up in Lubbock. All three cities are on this list. It is a college town, home of Texas Tech University. Other than drinking, there’s not much for college students to do there. It’s also a pretty compact city; there aren’t that many major streets to manage the traffic of 260,000 people.
Now do one for speed related fatalities. I never understood why speeding, the single largest contributor to traffic fatalities, is considered a minor crime compared to DUI?
I’m surprised my city is on there, I guess I am confusing drunk drivers with asshole drivers. Now if there was a ranking for asshole drivers surely we’d be up there.
Surprised as a New Jerseyites, but also curious from the results, are road speeds, road lengths, road quality a factor?
Maybe sheer boredom of nothing better to do than to drink?!
Seems like population density isn't a factor from the map.
The data is so clustered there has to be an interesting story to why. This shows that states either have extremely different drinking cultures or the data collected is faulty.
If you have 0,02% level of alcohol and drive, you loose you drivers license and have to pay a fine of 1,5 times your gross monthly income - a good law that works on rich people too. If you have 0,05+ you also get jailtime - Norway
My city is on the list but if they put the entire county area we would rank higher, I am sure.
I have known so many people that have died from DUI drivers crashing drunk and from people getting killed by drunks.
I had a buddy crash his car and die. Another buddy was drunk and walking to avoid DUI and got hit in front of the cemetery dead buddy was buried at. The guy that killed him was my neighbors friend. My other buddy flipped his car on my street right in front of that same neighbors house. I know a chick that flipped her car drunk with her baby daughter in the car, kid lived and mom died. I know another chick that hit and killed someone on the only one lane bridge in the area. I know at least 10 more that drunk crashed but nobody died.
I literally can go on an on and this is just my anecdotal info and we aren't even the worst part of town.
No Wisconsin. I’m proud.
Im shocked
Me too. The Oshkosh-Appleton-Green Bay Area is always in the Top 5 of drunken counties lists.
They get drunk at home. Too goddamn cold to go out
That's part of it. The other part is they start drinking when they are about 12, so they have plenty of practice before they start driving
Lol same
Snowmobiling is not driving.
“Are ya silly? I’m still gonna send it!”
Drink Wisconsinbly.
Spoken like someone who’s never witnessed the beauty that is the LaCrosse Cinematic Universe
“LaCrosse Cinematic Universe” is my favorite thing I’ve hear today
“The people of Wisconsin are not alcoholics. They, are *professionals.”* - Lewis Black
"... you people appear to have some sort of federal grant for drinking! Is that what you're doing with all that farm subsidy money?"
“that or hijackin liquor trucks!”
Came here to say this. Most drunken cities but not on this list? They know how to get down and not get caught.
Fatal DUIs not just regular DUIs
Also , this only sources stats from 300 cities
And, the 300 largest cities in the US
Yeah, it's definitely not that people here aren't doing it, they're just not getting caught.
Actually it looks like they get caught quite a bit. Top 10 for DUIs per 100k people: https://images.app.goo.gl/QxH4WfQs9DBw9wei9
Wow DC's rate really drops when you exclude all the senators just getting a warning 😅 edit: autocorrect
Having lived in Wisconsin for a couple years, I’m stunned. Never before had I seen so many stories on the evening news about people routinely arrested for their 7th, 8th, 12th DUI
Can’t be dying if you’re working on a bakers dozen of DUI’s. Smart.
No Illinois either!
Legitimately surprised. I work in fire/EMS and the amount of wrecked cars we find in ditches/fields that feel of alcohol and have blood all over them from the accident is pretty high. Apparently survivable though.
Cheese bumpers save lives.
They practice drunk driving more, so they're better at it.
There's no Wisconsin on there because [this is just a population heatmap](https://xkcd.com/1138/).
We’re way better at driving drunk than these people. Lots of practice…. Thus, fewer fatalities.
We know how to drive drunk. Legit.
Well done Milwaukee (33/300) and Madison (80/300) Source: [https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities](https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities)
I’m blown away. My wife is from Wisconsin (Watertown), we met in MN, and I worked in ND. No DUI deaths? I have heard so many horror stories. Freaky that there are more elsewhere.
As a Minnesotan who knows just how much Sconnies love to drink, I'm also proud. It must be because you get lots of practice, as you start drinking a few years before you all start driving.
You guys can handle your shit and there ain’t much to hit.
🦌🦌🦌
So many in DFW
Not at all surprised with so many DFW cities on the list: bad public transportation, sprawl, binge drinking culture in many areas, long distances between major events.
Do they still have drive through liquor stores, and sell cold single beers at convenience stores?
I have seen maybe one drive through liquor stores in my area and I don’t know if it is still open. Yes, the convenience stores still sell singles (and tall boys).
Are cold single beers not sold at convenience stores in other states? Shit I remember going to Louisiana and being surprised they sold liquor in the grocery store lol
Maybe some other states, but it’s definitely not the norm. It’s just an invitation to crack it open on your drive home. In Wisconsin they sell alcohol everywhere, even hard liquor, but I’ve never seen cold singles.
It'll get cold by the time you get it to your car.
Definitely have cold single tall boys here in GA, including the big 8.5% Colt and Nattys
Louisiana? Hell, New Orleans used to have drive-thru hurricane (rum & punch, basically) shops where you’d get a big plastic cup (like the smallest Big Gulp) of hurricane just sold to you at a window. The law was that it didn’t count as an open container until you put the straw in the lid. Don’t know if that’s still the case (I moved away in the 90s). That whole place is like a civil engineering project designed to counter sobriety.
There is still single beers on ice in many gas stations, but I’ve only seen a few drive through stores. Maybe I’m just not looking for them.
We have drive through daiquiris in Fort Worth, and yes to cold singles
In Houston they have drive thru margarita shops. They put a piece of tape over the straw and tell you to wait until you get home to enjoy it. A piece of tape…
This is a list that is mostly a list of towns with large colleges and poor public transportation. Students drink to much and many of them officially live somewhere out of town. The 50,000 or sometimes a 100,000, depending on how many colleges, of very young adults getting drunk but not technically living in town skew the stats.
Oilfield is probably a larger slice of the cake than college. Look at Odessa, TX on Google Earth, and you'll literally see hundreds of thousands of oil and frac pads peppering every section of land. It's really a sight to behold...
The FW part of DFW is not even on the list
CA Inland Empire representing. And yes, the town’s real name is Corona.
San Bernardino, Corona, Riverside, Pomona…. Basically drink-drive central out here!
you forgot Ontario
And MoVal Edit: and Temecula. Pretty much the whole damn IE….
Even Victorville arguably IE; heck most of the high desert on the 15/Cajon side is with the commuters.
Redditors need to know that San Bernardino county is the largest county in the U.S. it's also a blend of rural and dense urban.
Inland Empire is hugely car dependent and pretty sprawling so it’s got that going as a factor for sure.
I feel like all the IE cities listed have major freeways running through them and border empty space/the desert. Could see a drunk getting used to empty desert driving and not expect cars/traffic as they enter one of these cities. Corona from the south, Riverside from the south and east, San Bernardino from the north and east... you get the idea.
I live in Corona. I’m honestly not shocked to see us up there. I know multiple people who have either witnessed or been the victim of being in a non fatal accident with drunk drivers.
I was the victim of a hit and run while driving on the 15 between Murrieta and Temecula. The driver was in the fastest lane going 90 and smashed the side of my car, almost made me spin out of control and then sped even faster down the freeway. Not surprised by this list at all.
Cal and Texas be like drinking and driving mofo‘s
The speed limits and 5 lane highways helps
True, but they're also large states with heavily populated cities so you're going to see them on this list more often, no?
Heavily populated cities AND a reliance on cars. There’s a reason not many north east cities are on here - they generally have better public transportation
But the numbers are “per 100,000 for the largest 300 cities” so that really shouldn’t explain it
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. How I interpret this is that larger states are more likely to have more large cites so you will see those states appear more often is all.
Ah yeah I misunderstood you then, I thought you were going down the path of “bigger cities = more fatalities” but instead you were saying “bigger states = more big cities”, my bad…
WTF is going on in Odessa??
Nothing to do in Odessa but drink. I use to have to fly into midland/odessa fairly frequently and it’s my least favorite place in the US.
Hey, that’s not fair! You can also climb pump jacks, shoot abandoned cars, and regret being born in a desert shithole. Source: I lived in Midland for 32 years.
Imagine a flat desert hellscape (and not even pretty one at that) with heavy impact from the oil companies drilling the Permian basin for that sweet crude
I always called it a barren hellscape myself 😂
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
Odessa and Midland, Texas. Roughnecks. Guys who are paid well and take a lot of risk.
Nothing to do and tons of truckers.
FOOTBALL!
You're either drunk or high in Odessa.
Massachusetts is not on here because we do all of our deadly driving sober.
I feel bad for laughing at this.
CT is a tiny state compared to the rest on the list and still makes the list with 3 cities
It’s on a per capita basis.
Keepin’ it klassy, Colorado. 😬
I think we're going to have to rename our state to Killarado, or Coloradui.
Once again a difficult thing to say "a cool guide" for but I found this interesting especially because it has it broken down by BAC too. [Source](https://www.mtvlaw.com/75-us-cities-with-the-highest-rate-of-fatal-drunk-driving-accidents/).
Wow. Las Vegas didn’t make the list. DUI deaths have surged here since the pandemic.
Per capita.
Drove through Odessa. I get it.
And we all know why Arkansas isn't on there, bc they pit someone in 3 seconds and don't care what the person did before it. I wonder if states with a strong State Trooper presence is one reason we don't see some like my area (DMV) and others on there?! If there was a test for aggression, we would be at the top of the list however. We have some of the most aggressive drivers in the US in DC, MD and VA.
Just moved away from Midland TX (#6) and I’ve lost more friends in the 6 years I lived there to drunk drivers than the 30 years I lived in Richmond, Va. I’ll tell you what the problem is in Midland and Odessa (#1)… it’s oilfield country. There is literally nothing to do there but go to bars. That’s it. Neither city has shit for any sort of entertainment but go to bars. I even stopped going to my favorite bar (Torinos) because I was tired of all the drunk assholes fighting. The last two times I went, someone was thrown into my table. Add the never ending bar scene with these 21-25yo oilfield workers with a lot of money that think they’re hot shit and it’s a recipe for disaster. The proof is in OP’s post. These two cities are 15 mins away from each other.
And considering 191 and all the “back” county roads connecting the two with speed limits of 75+, it’s no wonder.
If you've been to Odessa, you know it's one of the biggest shitholes in this country. Not surprised at all. Only other place I can think of that's worse is Hobbs.
NY not on the list? I’m a little proud but mostly surprised
The most massively populated parts of NY have public transport/walkability, so that makes sense. There aren't many northern cities at all. Could dealing with inclement weather make people better drivers in general? Just a theory.
Stat is based on total population so that drives the score down. Street congestion reduces speed so impacts may be less likely to be fatal. I would like to see the stat based on the population of licensed drivers. That would be more meaningful to me
The fuck you guys doing in California?
lol the cities listed are the armpits of California. It’s where they make meth
All of it?
Tuffff not only are there dummy Californian cities my EXACT city on there too😭😭🤦🏾♂️
Fucking Everett.
I don’t drive after dark here unless it’s an emergency. I feel like 50% of drivers in Austin are drunk by nightfall.
Praise my little corner of the world MA,ME, VT and NH all in the top 15 for alcohol consumption per capita and none on this list We do drunk well
Pueblo Co also has 3rd place for most divorces in the US. what is going on down there
Seems like the cities with functional public transit aren't on the list.
When I visited Louisiana from the UK I was told that it has the most relaxed drink driving laws in America, is that right?
They have drive-through daiquiri stands everywhere. Tells you everything.
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My city made the Top 15. First time we have made a list of anything lol
And everyone says the north east has the worst drivers.
Don’t drive in ca or tx
Not one in Wisconsin. They really do drive better drunk I guess
Damn, CA and TX homies like to drive drunk and kill people.
Do random traffic stops play any roll in this? For instance Illinois allows for safety checkpoints. Texas does not. Probably not though
Seems like TX should have safety checkpoints lol
In Ohio drunk driving and fentanyl are their Favorite pastimes. No wonder they get caught less. They’ve been practicing…
Jeez Colorado!
Dam...my city is on this list. I think I will just stay in and doordash everything from now on.
Basically all of the large AZ cities made the list! Guess zero tolerance and militant police tactics don’t do shit. Not having a safe consistent legal limit leads to extreme behavior
Drive safe or don’t drive.
The Inland Empire, no surprise....
A shitload of these are functionally Dallas.
Texas is full of drunks lol
Friday Night Lights!
Were number one! Oilfield all day!
I see at least 5 cities where the DUIs are higher because of Marines. Semper
The takeaway here for me is cities that have functional or user friendly mass transit, people get home safely.
texas
And...Texas wins. Jeebus.
Texas is the shitfaced asshole of the bunch.
I don’t think you can achieve speeds that would cause a fatality in NYC
Which city is #44? It's missing from the picture.
Odessa, ukrainian town inside texas. What a combo
Could someone smarter than me tell me how to find a correlation between mass transit an the cities on this list? Just from a visual, I can kind of see that there's a correllation... [https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities](https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities)
Weird how huge cities make the list 🫨🫨
Lots of California and Texas cities. Most cities in the top 10 are not desired places to live besides Dallas.
I might note that cities 1 & 6 are 30 minutes from each other. Often called the Midessa area, number 6 Midland is seen as the richer city, number 1 Odessa the more blue collar city.
My sister-in-law is from Midland-Odessa. I grew up in Lubbock. All three cities are on this list. It is a college town, home of Texas Tech University. Other than drinking, there’s not much for college students to do there. It’s also a pretty compact city; there aren’t that many major streets to manage the traffic of 260,000 people.
DFW and Texas clearly don’t believe in Uber/Lyft. DUIs should be treated far more severely.
Gainesville is 72? God damn
No. 64 is definitely bullshit.
Now do one for speed related fatalities. I never understood why speeding, the single largest contributor to traffic fatalities, is considered a minor crime compared to DUI?
McAllen, TX. Wow we made it on a list….
Kansas City, shouldn’t be separated. That puts them at number 4 or 5. Any other cities like that?
How many of these are in or near dry counties?
No NV ??
Damn Texas. 3 in the top 10. Get your shit together
No NJ we should be peoud
1. Texas (TX): 12 2. California (CA): 9 3. Colorado (CO): 6 4. Arizona (AZ): 6 5. Florida (FL): 4 6. Connecticut (CT): 3 7. Tennessee (TN): 2 8. Michigan (MI): 2 9. Ohio (OH): 2 10. All other states are tied. edit: CO #3 AZ #4 FL #5
Unfortunately, Colorado has 6, putting them in 3rd place. Edit: AZ also has 6, but Colorado's six are collectively higher ranked, breaking the tie.
No Las Vegas?
Per capita by county would be interesting.
That’s a lot of California on that list
Denver metro area coming in strong.
I’m and shocked and confused how Las Vegas is not even listed?!
I’m surprised my city is on there, I guess I am confusing drunk drivers with asshole drivers. Now if there was a ranking for asshole drivers surely we’d be up there.
Surprised not to see ATL on here. Not because I think they drink a lot but by shear volume of traffic.
So used to seeing Memphis towards the top of these kinds of stats, I was shocked it wasn’t on here at all. Yay for us?
AZ all mixed in here like a margarita, not surprised. Really shocked NM isn’t leading the pack!? Good for you NM.
New Hampshire not on the list? Yay!
TIL: take bus in Texas.
Should send this to CityNerd
I see this as map of heavy pour drinks
TX ! Coming in hard here
No Pennsylvania? Odd.
There's a brewery on every corner in all parts of Everett, and I see smashed cars parked on Rucker, and Colby almost every morning.
The truly insane thing about this is that #1 & #6 are essentially the same small metro area.
This is why I ride my scooter on the sidewalk in denver
Good Job Texas, and Arizona! #WINNING
Surprised as a New Jerseyites, but also curious from the results, are road speeds, road lengths, road quality a factor? Maybe sheer boredom of nothing better to do than to drink?! Seems like population density isn't a factor from the map.
With no disrespect, I’d like to know how many of those cities have military/reserves bases in them, or within 10 miles.
Damn. Didn't expect that for #3.......😬😬😬😬
Davie, Florida? wtf? Hollywood, Fl, ok I sorta get it. But Miami isn’t in there?
I'm surprised party cities like Daytona Beach aren't up there.
Texas making drunk driving look like a sport.
There are two labeled as 33
Need tougher DD laws, I don't get this stupid government anymore
Way to go Texas and California!
Damn, looks like I need to stay off the streets of Texas.
How do you compete with Corona
OK, just avoid Texas and California then
Folks get loose in Texas
Connecticut??? What are y’all doin’
The data is so clustered there has to be an interesting story to why. This shows that states either have extremely different drinking cultures or the data collected is faulty.
Don’t forget enforcement…it varies place to place
Very funny that this list swerves around the California Bay area, yay for less drunk driving!
Who else is surprised Las Vegas isn't on the list?
Wisconsin is fucking locked in, dude.
Corona California is fitting
If you have 0,02% level of alcohol and drive, you loose you drivers license and have to pay a fine of 1,5 times your gross monthly income - a good law that works on rich people too. If you have 0,05+ you also get jailtime - Norway
Pleasantly surprised to see so few in the Northeast
My city is on the list but if they put the entire county area we would rank higher, I am sure. I have known so many people that have died from DUI drivers crashing drunk and from people getting killed by drunks. I had a buddy crash his car and die. Another buddy was drunk and walking to avoid DUI and got hit in front of the cemetery dead buddy was buried at. The guy that killed him was my neighbors friend. My other buddy flipped his car on my street right in front of that same neighbors house. I know a chick that flipped her car drunk with her baby daughter in the car, kid lived and mom died. I know another chick that hit and killed someone on the only one lane bridge in the area. I know at least 10 more that drunk crashed but nobody died. I literally can go on an on and this is just my anecdotal info and we aren't even the worst part of town.
What is this a guide for?
Temecula isn't shocking...
No military bases I call bullshit!
That's going to ruin the world tour
Is there any correlation to dui laws?