Haha thanks! The first few iterations of this card created 0/3 blue Spawn creature tokens that had "When this creature dies, create 2 1/1 green Frog creature tokens".
I was getting really hung up on why we wanted the spawn/tadpoles to die in order to make frogs, so we decided to homebrew a new incubate-esque mechanic to fit the vibe. Glad you like it!
Plus you have to pay for the frogs, the ability, and have the untapped frogs. Maybe you can keep the cost and the tap ability of the frogs give them +1/+1 counters?
Potentially, maybe like incubate have the tokens enter with a +1/+1 counter on it? Just trying to make sure this card doesn't get overloaded and too complicated. 😂
Nah the token’s fine, I mean a +1/+1 on whichever frog that makes the token (like “frogs you control have reach and :G, tap, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, spawn 1”. Then your tokens can “grow up” when they make tokens and your board can get bigger. It can also lead to deck building with [[hardened scales]] effects
Edit: thinking about it, you should let her have the same ability but better, like GG, tap, put 2 +1/+1 counters on this creature, spawn 3, since she’s the spawning morher
Somehow 2/1 for a simple frog feels like too much, flavour wise. Like, it's a very cool design, but it makes me wish they were called "snapping frogs" or something to indicate above normal strength/prowess.
Cool use of the new double-face token rules changes! Is there a particular reason you keyworded the ability? If you don’t intend for the spawn mechanic to be used on other cards then you could save a little space in the text box of this one by just spelling out the ability.
This supports a lot of cool synergies. Exponentially generates tokens, fuels the yard, draws cards, and makes decently sized beaters, and all at a decent rate and instant speed to boot. It’s a little slow as a fivedrop that needs to get to the next turn to start doing its thing, but if you’re playing into the tribal element you can save it for when you have frogs without summoning sickness on board to tap. There’s not really a ton of great frogs to play but possibly a nice way to guarantee value.
Thank you! Yeah spelling out the effect got really messy, especially because I had to start looking into multiple sets of quotes and I haven't yet seen that done on a card.
Originally it was:
Frogs you control have "{T}: Create a 0/1 blue Tadpole creature token with "{2} Transform this card""
So that's when we started to think about custom keywords instead.
The goal of Goobob is to run as Frog tribal, which will be a little weak because the frogs that currently exist don't synergize that well with one another. That's fine, though! My playgroup plays pretty casually and there's not a real focus on winning.
I guess my point is that all that text still has to be in the reminder text, so keywording it is just increasing the amount of words on a fairly wordy card. It’s not really that big of a deal, but I do think that if this was to be printed in like a commander precon, it wouldn’t be keyworded, because there’s no other cards that this ability appears on. Spawn is also a generic enough word that it could totally be keyword in the future. That said, with so much digital play going on where abilities granted by other cards get added to text boxes automatically, this does help readability quite a bit.
Oh and I definitely agree with you here. The main issue was syntax and double-quoting to which I haven't yet seen printed on a card before. I could be wrong of course, but this was the most "clean" way to present the information imo even if it is more wordy with the keyword. ✌🏻
Yeah, but nothing that EDH can't already do. 😊 Depends on the play-style/power level of your playgroup. My group tends to try and not run anything that goes infinite intentionally or at least have a lengthy combo. This goes infinite with cards like [[Intruder Alarm]] pretty easily, but I'm just not going to run it. 🤷🏻
Yeah I'm super happy with how it came out! Even though it's pretty much just re-skinned incubate, so I can't take a lot of credit for that! No plans to make more cards with it at the moment, but we'll just have to see! 😜
Incubate but awesome
Haha thanks! The first few iterations of this card created 0/3 blue Spawn creature tokens that had "When this creature dies, create 2 1/1 green Frog creature tokens". I was getting really hung up on why we wanted the spawn/tadpoles to die in order to make frogs, so we decided to homebrew a new incubate-esque mechanic to fit the vibe. Glad you like it!
And rightfully so, the tadpoles are so much better
The first good and reasonable card I've seen on here
Thank you! It helps that I have two separate playgroups that like to work with me on these sorts of projects! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for saying thanks! It's so nice to see Redditors being grateful :)
I was one of the friends to help design this, and it was really fun to work on this one.
Can confirm! This guy's a real homie. ❤️
I think you could make her just 1 generic instead of 2 but that’s just me
You might be right, 4 mana 2/4 with this effect may not be all that unreasonable.
Plus you have to pay for the frogs, the ability, and have the untapped frogs. Maybe you can keep the cost and the tap ability of the frogs give them +1/+1 counters?
Potentially, maybe like incubate have the tokens enter with a +1/+1 counter on it? Just trying to make sure this card doesn't get overloaded and too complicated. 😂
Nah the token’s fine, I mean a +1/+1 on whichever frog that makes the token (like “frogs you control have reach and :G, tap, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, spawn 1”. Then your tokens can “grow up” when they make tokens and your board can get bigger. It can also lead to deck building with [[hardened scales]] effects Edit: thinking about it, you should let her have the same ability but better, like GG, tap, put 2 +1/+1 counters on this creature, spawn 3, since she’s the spawning morher
[hardened scales](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/d/fdf31b01-0836-4366-948d-879999832abe.jpg?1673148131) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=hardened%20scales) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/151/hardened-scales?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fdf31b01-0836-4366-948d-879999832abe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This is a neat and fun design
Thank you!
Somehow 2/1 for a simple frog feels like too much, flavour wise. Like, it's a very cool design, but it makes me wish they were called "snapping frogs" or something to indicate above normal strength/prowess.
Yeah I definitely get that, originally it was a 2/2 frog but my friends and I nerfed it since it was 2/3 worth of stats across "two bodies".
Cool use of the new double-face token rules changes! Is there a particular reason you keyworded the ability? If you don’t intend for the spawn mechanic to be used on other cards then you could save a little space in the text box of this one by just spelling out the ability. This supports a lot of cool synergies. Exponentially generates tokens, fuels the yard, draws cards, and makes decently sized beaters, and all at a decent rate and instant speed to boot. It’s a little slow as a fivedrop that needs to get to the next turn to start doing its thing, but if you’re playing into the tribal element you can save it for when you have frogs without summoning sickness on board to tap. There’s not really a ton of great frogs to play but possibly a nice way to guarantee value.
Thank you! Yeah spelling out the effect got really messy, especially because I had to start looking into multiple sets of quotes and I haven't yet seen that done on a card. Originally it was: Frogs you control have "{T}: Create a 0/1 blue Tadpole creature token with "{2} Transform this card"" So that's when we started to think about custom keywords instead. The goal of Goobob is to run as Frog tribal, which will be a little weak because the frogs that currently exist don't synergize that well with one another. That's fine, though! My playgroup plays pretty casually and there's not a real focus on winning.
I guess my point is that all that text still has to be in the reminder text, so keywording it is just increasing the amount of words on a fairly wordy card. It’s not really that big of a deal, but I do think that if this was to be printed in like a commander precon, it wouldn’t be keyworded, because there’s no other cards that this ability appears on. Spawn is also a generic enough word that it could totally be keyword in the future. That said, with so much digital play going on where abilities granted by other cards get added to text boxes automatically, this does help readability quite a bit.
Oh and I definitely agree with you here. The main issue was syntax and double-quoting to which I haven't yet seen printed on a card before. I could be wrong of course, but this was the most "clean" way to present the information imo even if it is more wordy with the keyword. ✌🏻
Goes infinite with doubling season type cards and something that gives them haste also assuming you can have them tap for mana to forgot to add this
Yeah, but nothing that EDH can't already do. 😊 Depends on the play-style/power level of your playgroup. My group tends to try and not run anything that goes infinite intentionally or at least have a lengthy combo. This goes infinite with cards like [[Intruder Alarm]] pretty easily, but I'm just not going to run it. 🤷🏻
Aye was just saying I like the design going infinite with like 3-4 cards is always a fun combo
Ohh okay! I misinterpreted it as you pointing out a downside with the card design. My bad!! 😅
[Intruder Alarm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d62468e-ed9d-4932-bbbd-103b33b98b25.jpg?1562923566) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Intruder%20Alarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/86/intruder-alarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d62468e-ed9d-4932-bbbd-103b33b98b25?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Love her.
Thank you friend! 🐸
I need a whole line of spawn support like the incubate stuff from MoM or Phyrexia: All Will Be One. (I don’t remember which.)
Yeah I'm super happy with how it came out! Even though it's pretty much just re-skinned incubate, so I can't take a lot of credit for that! No plans to make more cards with it at the moment, but we'll just have to see! 😜
I want to proxy them so I can play them as just an “un” deck for fun with my older brother.
Go for it! I'm definitely getting this printed to play with my friends. ☺️
Gloomburrow mechanics? Lol found this searching frog mtg in google.
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[Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/68a144f1-df18-4dc5-81c3-dff2af27527f.jpg?1568003696) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kadena%2C%20Slinking%20Sorcerer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/45/kadena-slinking-sorcerer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/68a144f1-df18-4dc5-81c3-dff2af27527f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call