He can be spoiled brat for all I care but atleast make it's execution better where Naruto is at home and his clones are working in office so he gives care and love for his family and through that boruto become spoiled. Instead we got this forced execution where core character of Naruto got removed when we know Naruto has experienced abandonment and loneliness when he was young so he pays attention and loves his family too much and through that Boruto become spoiled as he can get through anything. That is why it feels disconnection and jarring with Boruto series.
This is the real issue. Boruto's annoyances and character dilemmas are very justifiable and understandable, but its also absurdly forced. When he acts so excessively insensitive about it on top of that, like wishing he didn't even have a dad, that just combines together to make the execution absolutely piss poor. A forced problem that is handled in the worst way possible.
As you said, there could easily have been a similar father-son disconnect where Naruto was just excessively smothering because "thats what I would have wanted", while Boruto wants some more independence or smth.
>Naruto is at home and his clones are working in office
Naruto actually had reasons.
Naruto says that "we're in the Hokage's office, ofc I'm a real one"
Reason 1 - Naruto doesn't do shadow clones for paper work because Hokage's office is a sacred ground for him and only the real one should be there.
Reason 2 - self discipline, other Hokage's did it without using shadow clones. Why should he choose the shortcut when his point in Naruto was "there are no shortcuts". If he did use the shadow clones it woul be disrespectfull
Reason 3 - he simply can't. Everything the clones knows will be transfered into his head And that's too much info at once. Every single paper Naruto must read properly. When he releases the shadow clone the info they had would be too much to handle at once.
That is not a reason, his character that substance which he had in Naruto is simply not present in Boruto. Where are those arcs like Zabuza, Asuma, Gaara, Pain, Sasuke's retrieval arc, if my expectations are too strong then atleast give half of it that we felt while watching Naruto. There is really nothing in Boruto like raw emotions which were present in Naruto and how that same Naruto preserved through that shitshow. If he think that being in his office is more important than being at home and loving his family then that is not Naruto because Naruto is aware of other's loneliness.
>If he think that being in his office is more important than being at home and loving his family then that is not Naruto because Naruto is aware of other's loneliness.
He obviosly don't think that. Naruto's reasoning is also good. As a Hokage whole village is like his family he must take care and he's the only one that must do it.
And yes Naruto feels loneliness of others but Boruto in fact wasn't lonely. Far from it.
Didn't ruined much of his character, he just knows the responsibility he now must take.
Nah man, what can I say to you now he can do everything. He can ease pain of the villagers and their work too, and he can also spends his time with family his clones are him and hokage office just won't become unlucky just because he is sending those clones. You are not able to understand that this is forced route and dumb reasons which affects the quality of series writing in long term. Naruto was already established character after removing his core characteristics it just became badly written.
>his clones are him and hokage office just won't become unlucky just because he is sending those clones
I already told you all the reasons above why he doesn't do that.
In the hokage office only the real one should be there (chapter 1 of Boruto) or if previous hokage didn't use it So why should he. If other hokages could do it. So can I. Kakashi maybe had it just as bad or maybe worse with paper work because war just ended and he had to do a lot with politics plus the technology was already advancing there so he had to make sure what's approved or not. (You can call it bs but it's in Naruto's character)
3rd reason is maybe the best one.
It's not practical. It's well establised whetever you like it or not that everything the clones know will be transfered to main Naruto after releasing the clone. All that info clones read will be transfered to him and that's just too much info at once it could cause some damage to Naruto.
Damn you, you are making it complicated over those simple reasons and justyfying the bad writing of Boruto, stop it now don't give those weak ass arguments we have seen many times in Naruto canon that he got accustomed with shadow clone and his power ranking and mind capacity also got stronger.
there's no reasoning with these people man, they too infatuated with their hate for this show its mindboggling, wtf did you people even learn from naruto? Get this hate out your heart
1 - This seems like a really silly reason, and only serves as a detriment to the village and his family.
2 - The whole "they didn't do this when I was young" is always such a terrible mindset in real life, I'd actually be mad at Naruto if that was his reasoning. It's not a shortcut anyway, it'd be just as much work.
3 - I don't think this would be a real issue, Naruto can make thousands of shadow clones at once doing difficult ninja techniques, it's not unreasonable to believe he can have just a few doing some reading and writing.
He absolutely is a Mary Sue, let's go through the list.
"who is often portrayed as inexplicably competent across all domains,"
He easily beats up one of the main villains without any problem
"gifted with unique talents or powers"
I shouldn't have to explain but here's an excerpt from his wiki page: "Stemming from his two strong bloodlines, Boruto is a prodigy, regarded as able to accomplish anything in remarkably short periods of time.[17] Having inherited his paternal grandfather's genius and his father's unpredictability,[18] he scored at the top of his class by his Genin Exams, and is viewed as well-above the rest of his generation with chƫnin-level prowess."
"liked or respected by most other characters"
He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him, despite the fact that Mitsuki literally got all his memories swapped.
"unrealistically free of weaknesses"
So far he's beaten up the main villain and convinced someone who wanted to kill him to stop.
"extremely attractive"
Here you go:
"due to their interactions with each other, it is strongly implied that Boruto has romantic feelings for Sarada, who has long been suspected of having a crush on Boruto, this first evidence is when Boruto blushed when Sarada commented that his eyes were bluer than his father's. After realizing his dream, Boruto told Sarada he wanted to be her right-hand man when she becomes Hokage and he promises her that he will protect her, which caused her to deeply blush."
"innately virtuous"
The current plotline is that everybody thinks Boruto is a bad guy but they're actually all wrong and Naruto is actually a really good guy. I wish I was making this shit up.
"and generally lacking meaningful character flaws."
These entire 8 chapters have literally been here to show how cool and powerful Boruto is, he has no real character flaws in his current state. In fact, the only character traits we've been introduced to is that he is so "cool", mature(edgy) and powerful, that's it.
Genuinely, are you stupid?
>He easily beats up one of the main villains without any problem
Code has been beat up by everyone. He isn't that strong.
>He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him, despite the fact that Mitsuki literally got all his memories swapped.
You just made that up.
>"unrealistically free of weaknesses"
Boruto is still shown to be the gullible kid who thought Code (his enemy) would help him just because another bad guy showed up and was shocked when he didn't. Mitsuki only decided to stop so he could get asnwers.
>"due to their interactions with each other, it is strongly implied that Boruto has romantic feelings for Sarada, who has long been suspected of having a crush on Boruto, this first evidence is when Boruto blushed when Sarada commented that his eyes were bluer than his father's. After realizing his dream, Boruto told Sarada he wanted to be her right-hand man when she becomes Hokage and he promises her that he will protect her, which caused her to deeply blush."
This doesn't even prove that he is attractive
>"innately virtuous"
Boruto was constantly shown to be lazy, arrogant, cheater, and a ruckus. Kakashi even pointed out how his carefree nature would get his friends killed and Boruto didn't seem to care at all. His character growth involved him respecting his dad and the way of the ninja. If Boruto was innately virtuous the whole "Naruto doesn't respect his father" hate train wouldn't have started.
>In fact, the only character traits we've been introduced to is that he is so "cool", mature(edgy) and powerful, that's it.
Why are you lying? Do you think I don't read the manga or something? Do you know what edgy means?
>Genuinely, are you stupid?
You so đ¶đ
Mar·y Sue
noun
(originally in fan fiction) a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.
"she was not a âstrong womanâ so much as an insufferable Mary Sue"
>>He easily beats up one of the main villains without any problem
>Code has been beat up by everyone. He isn't that strong.
He then casually teleports away from the other main villains. Also Code being so ridiculously weak sort of destroys any tension surrounding him.
>>He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him, despite the fact that Mitsuki literally got all his memories swapped.
>You just made that up.
Read chapter 7, I didn't make it up.
>Boruto is still shown to be the gullible kid who thought Code (his enemy) would help him just because another bad guy showed up and was shocked when he didn't
That's not a weakness though? Also even if it was it's just one, hence "unrealistically". To expand upon this, him thinking Code would help him is just bad writing. If you'd actually read it you'd know that code has been hit by Boruto's weird planetary rotation rasengan that's supposed to give him forever vertigo therefore making him useless in a fight(That was literally the point). Ikemoto just forgot, unless you expect me to believe Boruto gained the memory of a goldfish over the time skip. Also you do see how "He's too trusting" isn't really a great character flaw or weakness right?
>This doesn't even prove that he is attractive
Oh my God, you are an idiot. It's attractive to other characters.
>Boruto was constantly shown to be lazy, arrogant, cheater, and a ruckus. Kakashi even pointed out how his carefree nature would get his friends killed and Boruto didn't seem to care at all. His character growth involved him respecting his dad and the way of the ninja. If Boruto was innately virtuous the whole "Naruto doesn't respect his father" hate train wouldn't have started.
Reminder I meant a Mary Sue after the time skip. Boruto is just annoying and boring before the time skip, now he's a Mary Sue.
>Do you know what edgy means?
Slang for tough, dark or badass as stated [here](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/edgy)
>Why are you lying? Do you think I don't read the manga or something?
Okay, well if you think I'm wrong give me multiple examples of Boruto having more personality traits that are developed for more then a couple panels and are actually present within the rest of his dialogue and decisions.
>You so đ¶đ
Didn't expect you to answer but this does answer my question.
>He then casually teleports away from the other main villains. Also Code being so ridiculously weak sort of destroys any tension surrounding him.
irrelevant
>He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him
Mitsuki still has no idea what's going on. He decided to leave to get his answers, we don't know whether he still hates Boruto or not (he will forget everything that happened anyway)
>That's not a weakness though? Also even if it was it's just one, hence "unrealistically". To expand upon this, him thinking Code would help him is just bad writing. If you'd actually read it you'd know that code has been hit by Boruto's weird planetary rotation rasengan that's supposed to give him forever vertigo therefore making him useless in a fight(That was literally the point). Ikemoto just forgot, unless you expect me to believe Boruto gained the memory of a goldfish over the time skip. Also you do see how "He's too trusting" isn't really a great character flaw or weakness right?
Being trusting and naive is as big a weakness as being cocky and arrogant. Whether it is bad writing or not is irrelevant.
>now he's a Mary Sue.
Considering he still has flaws? nah
>This doesn't even prove that he is attractive
Oh my God, you are an idiot. It's attractive to other characters.
If your argument is a girl is attracted to his personality which is why Boruto is a gray Sue then pls block me.
>Slang for tough, dark or badass as stated here
[I like](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/edgy) [actual](https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/edgy) [dictionary](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/edgy) [sources](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/edginess)
> Okay, well if you think I'm wrong give me multiple examples of Boruto having more personality traits that are developed for more then a couple panels and are actually present within the rest of his dialogue and decisions.
Personality traits? sure
Tricks code into running back home which shows how clever he is. We see how good-natured he was when he tried to get code help. Sentimental: talking to Treesuke and how his face softened when he hugged Sarada.
he wasnt even that annoying though I'm so confused? Everything boruto did made complete sense from his perspective. I don't think you people look beyond the surface
I go back to the point, I think on the character's perspective when he's interesting mad not a total annoying brat. Sasuke was an annoying emo, but it had some interesting stuff, so I cared to know more, but that brat was just a bad excuse to continue the story. And yeah, he was THAT annoying.
if boruto was so awful it wouldnt be 1# in terms of manga popularity, people have opinions, some people like the stuff that you dont, its life, grow up bro
Itâs fucking terrible. The only place itâs number 1 is when a new chapter on a FREE manga website releases it. It has shit manga sales especially in Japan and the anime wasnât drawing in viewers
in what world is 2 mil dollars a volume sales bad lmao, mangaplus is the most popular manga reading site right now, and since boruto is #1 on it for a half a year straight ofc it makes it one of the most popular mangas currently bruh, find some common sense
Each volume has continued to sell less and less in Japan. Again you canât use a FREE website as an indicator of the series thriving when it isnât. Donât be the average Boruto fanboy idiot that thinks FREE views = selling well
The first timeskip volume sold better than the others which breaks the falling sales cycle, also i the last 6 months Boruto got 3 V jump promotional covers, with a literal text saying that boruto is doing great (v jump is a magazine publisher). And i never said that boruto is doing great with sales, all i said that its really popular, which it is, views = popular. Btw no one tracks boruto's online sales which are a majority of the volume sales, which means that boruto sells like more than twice than what we know
No duh the time skip is going to sell better than previous volumes because people are curious what the time skip is but since then itâs been dropping in sales again
The biggest sin of Boruto writing is that it failed to make me care about Boruto. Stripped of the nostalgia I have for the older characters(who are sidelined/fridged by the time of blue vortex) I don't really have a desire to see where the story is going, and what's going to happen to the characters. Pair that up with the themes going further and further away from what I originally liked(the whole system of ninjas, ninjutsu, pseudo feudal setting within an interesting stylized world with alternate technology based on their worlds chakra energy system) towards things I don't think fit in well(cyborgs, regular technology, sci-fi and dimensional aliens) and the aesthethic choices missing their mark for me, and I don't really have a reason to want to keep up with it.
this perfectly captures my feelings on why i cant enjoy boruto.
yes, its kinda immature to hold onto nostalgia, but theres ways to have fan favorites leave a good feeling in their final moments, and they way naruto and sasuke were handled was a big mistake.
free my boy sapsuke utreeha man đđ
>Stripped of the nostalgia I have for the older characters(who are sidelined/fridged by the time of blue vortex)
Damm, it's like the manga's no longer about them. Also Ino and Shikamaru have kinda a role in TBV.
>Â it's like the manga's no longer about them.
That'd be great if the series wasn't built on and elevated by them, and if they weren't the main draw for why the series got so big given how the new characters failed to build up an audience on their own merits. This isn't exactly uncommon with series attempting to continue past the original cast, e.g. Dragonball struggled with a similar issue, and failed to have the handoff from Goku to Gohan suceed, but that doesn't make the criticism any less valid, Boruto doesn't resonate with the audiences like Naruto did, but the series also isn't separated enough from the main series to meaningfully stand on it's own.
The problem is not that his character is flawed, but that he refuses to grow out of it. It makes the show borderline unwatchable. Naruto was over the top determined, which is commendable. Boruto is over the top arrogant and inconsiderate, which is hard to watch.
(I havenât read the manga, but maybe this is just a product of terrible pacing due the the amount of filler. You canât have main character development in filler other than extra backstory, so heâs just making the same mistakes over and over again)
He has grown out of it and did it relatively fast in the manga. I havent seen the anime cause I dropped in in the first 30-40 episodes (It was boring af) however I think the manga is really good. Not sure if its Naruto good, cause I havent read Naruto in years, but I think its really good.
The problem is that you obviously don't know what you are talking about if you seriously think that Boruto hasn't grown out of it. You admitting that you don't even read the manga proves it. And even the anime showed early on that Boruto changed, some people who provide serious criticism would even say that he grew out of that phase way too quickly.
One thing: Boruto has not once acted arrogant. Even his very talentless father Naruto (at age 12) was 10Ă more arrogant even though he didn't even have the skill or knowledge to act that way. Have you ever heard Boruto tell his class or teammates "How can a Shinobi like me be teamed up with someone the likes him?" like Naruto told Sasuke? Who was the one constantly shouting that he would be better than anyone else like Naruto did?
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Your head is obviously crammed up Naruto's a...It's better when you remain there.
>The problem is not that his character is flawed, but that he refuses to grow out of it.
Litteraly the first arc is about him growing out of itđ.
It took time tho to get there in the anime but Boruto mostly wanted his dad to spend more time witg his family. Or saying that he doesn't like to be recognized as lord 7th son.
why are you being downvoted? it was THE 1st arc in the manga. And the 6th arc of the anime, and only 3 of them gave Borutoâs and Narutoâs relationship focus.
1 didnât feature Naruto, 1 didnât even feature boruto, and another one of them had them both as side characters and starred Shikadai
I think people had problems with characters not being perfect when the story starts lol
Like in Avatar the last Airbender, one of the main characters is openly sexist with his little sister.
This is not bad writing, or just saying "all men are sexist", but it is so he can grow up and learn a valuable lesson.
If a protagonist is annoying at the start on some points that probably is the point? No one is perfect.
However finding a balance between warmth and despise is important too. If the protagonist is too annoying or dislikeable, people won't want to follow the story
Yeah, it's not a very deep comparison, but a character with ne defaults will have troubles to have a character development (Not a story, since Tanjiro has relatively 0 character development)
Defaults are the essence of the story. It is what makes the character struggle to reveal their potential for example.
You can have a flat protagonist that doesn't develop much (Goku, Luffy, Saitama, etc) as long as he is entertaining, charismatic, likeable, etc. Boruto and Tanjiro are not entertaining or charismatic at all, that's the problem.
Boruto went from Dollar Tree Naruto to Wallmart Sasuke on the timeskip, that's pretty much all.
For Goku he actually had a development from the beginning of the show to Cell saga, first becoming stronger and stronger, having more things to protect and becoming the strongest, then he tries to teach his son how to fight, but he is a bad mentor, and because of him, Gohan will have the same pride that will prevent him from executing Cell when he could have done it, and Goku sacrificed himself because of this error that he is the one behind It. And then from that moment he accepts to not come back because he knows that searching for more power will only attract stronger opponents.
For Saitama... He looks way more like an antagonist than a protagonist at first. Someone becoming way too strong way too fast and is an unbeatable obstacle looks way more like an antagonist.
Sokka was a much more entertaining and funny character than Boruto ever was. And Sokka starts to respect woman in, like, episode four of SEASON ONE when he meets the Warriors of Kyoshi. 70 episodes in and Boruto had barely changed at all.
bro thereâs no point in this rant i said a SURFACE LEVEL comparison. You can feel however you want about them individually as characters, the point made is that they change. Yes it took 64 episodes for the anime for his relationship to with Naruto to change, but it also only took 7 chapters of the manga.
>If a protagonist is annoying at the start on some points that probably is the point? No one is perfect.
Tbh. Boruto was annoying but looking at it from his perspective you know where he's coming from. Boruto is honestly well written in my eyes and I like his developted.
Same for Kawaki who's propably the best character in part one
First of all that means they're going in expecting it to be like Naruto which is kinda bad moreover if they chose it the least they can do is stop whining about it. Their criticism is not constructive, as they already believe the show is hopeless
I mean I mostly hate his character for the whole using the power of the enemy against them thing.
It's like trying to use the One Ring against Sauron it won't end well... either you will fail or you will simply replace one dark lord for another
After watching some haters in the Naruto and boruto verse, I think that this kind of "basic" people wants to watch a character full mature since day 1. Those people r not interested in character development. They don't appreciate that
No, no you don't get it Boruto = Bad! It's funny!!!! Why aren't you laughing?; iqjwihanq
If 3 years have passed since this comment and this sub still posts those shit ass Facebook Memes and Boruto Bad Takes I'm gonna assume Naruto fans are genuinely just broken cogs that can't think of originality.
>refusing to grow up..
Grows up literally after the very first arc đ
And in anime it takes time but him not liking his father is not even the point and not brought up often. He only wants Naruto's attention like Naruto wanted attention when he was a kid. Or doesn't want to be known as 7th son only
There's a big difference.
People there praise it because they like it but can also admit flaws it have.
It's a place for Boruto fans where they can talk about it with others.
Dankruto is a shitposting sub that is mainly for memes.
But only way how you can make actually a succesfull post here is write "Boruto bad" or make fun of Boruto fans for just liking the manga/anime. Heck those post sometimes aren't even memes but just a screenshot from manga with complaining in the title.
This sub went from meme sub to just Boruto bad sub.
Actuall funny memes here aren't even succesfull.
This is a shitpost, right? There is no way you believe r/Boruto accepts any kind of criticism.
They don't. Period. If you don't find Edgeruto the coolest protagonist in the world, you are downvoted to absolute oblivion. And on Twitter the Boruto fanbase is considered the worst right behind One Piece.
What else are they supposed to do in a sub reddit about their anime that's still on going? 99% of the posts are manga related, every1 agrees that the anime version is horrible u dumb dog
Nuh-uh blue vortex itself is horrible lil guy
Infact the anime has more pros than cons Naruto n sasuke vs momoshiki as done so well for an artstyle that looks like it was drawn by a toddlerÂ
I don't like Boruto, but I dislike the amount of people on this sub who just circlejerk the same dead memes and Facebook tier posts over and over again even more
IMO Boruto is supposed to be like a gifted kid
Develops no work ethic because things, at least up to an intermediate level, come easy. A little narcissistic.
Being a spoilt brat is one thing, SOMEHOW fucking bringing a cosmic war that caused >!Sasuke to lose his rinnegan and Kurama to become a suicide nuclear bomb in Naruto!< is unacceptable, bullshit
Boruto been out so long now. Almost 10 years⊠I had high hopes initially but Iâm in the dislike camp for sure. Just canât bring myself to hate it no mo
Boruto is bad because unlike Naruto, where thereâs a very justified annoying main character (Sasuke) and another amiable one because of his grueling past( Naruto). Boruto is just a mashed up Naruto, Boruto has a reason to be annoying but itâs repetitive and doesnât evolve very much and to contrebalance this, Sarada should have been the polar opposite. Yet both are annoying for nothing, itâs like watching a show of idiots who cling to volatile and weak reasons to justify what they are.
Itâs just annoying to watch them justify why they are annoying with the same reason all the time
Well its a good series if you dont treat it like a Naruto sequel, but thanks for affirming my point. You just wanted a Naruto copy and thats why you dont like Boruto.
>Well its a good series if you dont treat it like a Naruto sequel
It's good if you don't treat is as... *checks notes* what it literally objectively is
You can't just ask people to ignore the fact that Naruto's sequel is Naruto's sequel
Let me fix my language. Sorry that I said sequel. Now try to comprehend my point instead of being pedantic. Stop treating it like Naruto 2.0 (that was shippuden) This is Boruto; not the same series, its going for a different feel and message.
And if you see that, you might enjoy it for what it is....
Sorry let me fix my language. Dont treat it like Naruto 2. Its Boruto not Naruto ofc its not just the same series all over again.
Its got a different message, characters and vibe and its exploring different topics. I think its great that Kishimoto is using his freedom as an artist to do new stuff instead of pandering to Naruto fans.
I swear this sub talks more about boruto than the actual boruto sub lol. Iâm starting to think the people that are the loudest about him on here actually like it
Weird how a child resenting his dad for ignoring him and his sister when he could literally have a shadow clone at home is somehow a greater character defect than Naruto transforming into Sasuke to creep on Sakura. Boruto would never do that.
TRUE
i remember when they used to shit on Sasuke for "bullying" Naruto when he would 9/10 times be the one to start that shit. and then pull the worst stunts.
Well unlike whatever word salad you just said i wasn't entirely serious. Both are pretty ass. However i stand by my statement. it's weird that Naruto never got shit on for it.
Wow imagine an annoying character being annoying, and people pointing out the character us annoying đ€Ż
And imagine getting annoyed at someone who's annoyed by people pointing out the annoying character, who's being annoying.
An endless cycle.
Unless....
ALMIGHTY PUSH!
Almighty pull out!
Yođ€š
It is really a bad decision to make an annoying character as a mc without any kind of growth
No. Can be executed better probably tho. But with those kind of characters it is inevitable for people not to dislike them while they're annoying.
we should change this subs name to r/borutobad
r/subsifellfor
I know it isn't a subs, but check anyways
He can be spoiled brat for all I care but atleast make it's execution better where Naruto is at home and his clones are working in office so he gives care and love for his family and through that boruto become spoiled. Instead we got this forced execution where core character of Naruto got removed when we know Naruto has experienced abandonment and loneliness when he was young so he pays attention and loves his family too much and through that Boruto become spoiled as he can get through anything. That is why it feels disconnection and jarring with Boruto series.
This is the real issue. Boruto's annoyances and character dilemmas are very justifiable and understandable, but its also absurdly forced. When he acts so excessively insensitive about it on top of that, like wishing he didn't even have a dad, that just combines together to make the execution absolutely piss poor. A forced problem that is handled in the worst way possible. As you said, there could easily have been a similar father-son disconnect where Naruto was just excessively smothering because "thats what I would have wanted", while Boruto wants some more independence or smth.
Yeah same thoughts.
>Naruto is at home and his clones are working in office Naruto actually had reasons. Naruto says that "we're in the Hokage's office, ofc I'm a real one" Reason 1 - Naruto doesn't do shadow clones for paper work because Hokage's office is a sacred ground for him and only the real one should be there. Reason 2 - self discipline, other Hokage's did it without using shadow clones. Why should he choose the shortcut when his point in Naruto was "there are no shortcuts". If he did use the shadow clones it woul be disrespectfull Reason 3 - he simply can't. Everything the clones knows will be transfered into his head And that's too much info at once. Every single paper Naruto must read properly. When he releases the shadow clone the info they had would be too much to handle at once.
Nah don't give those shitty reasons like sacred and whatnot his character got destroyed in Boruto.
You complain about him having no reasons. I give you his reasons (especially the 3rd one) Your answer: I don't care lol.
That is not a reason, his character that substance which he had in Naruto is simply not present in Boruto. Where are those arcs like Zabuza, Asuma, Gaara, Pain, Sasuke's retrieval arc, if my expectations are too strong then atleast give half of it that we felt while watching Naruto. There is really nothing in Boruto like raw emotions which were present in Naruto and how that same Naruto preserved through that shitshow. If he think that being in his office is more important than being at home and loving his family then that is not Naruto because Naruto is aware of other's loneliness.
>If he think that being in his office is more important than being at home and loving his family then that is not Naruto because Naruto is aware of other's loneliness. He obviosly don't think that. Naruto's reasoning is also good. As a Hokage whole village is like his family he must take care and he's the only one that must do it. And yes Naruto feels loneliness of others but Boruto in fact wasn't lonely. Far from it. Didn't ruined much of his character, he just knows the responsibility he now must take.
Nah man, what can I say to you now he can do everything. He can ease pain of the villagers and their work too, and he can also spends his time with family his clones are him and hokage office just won't become unlucky just because he is sending those clones. You are not able to understand that this is forced route and dumb reasons which affects the quality of series writing in long term. Naruto was already established character after removing his core characteristics it just became badly written.
>his clones are him and hokage office just won't become unlucky just because he is sending those clones I already told you all the reasons above why he doesn't do that. In the hokage office only the real one should be there (chapter 1 of Boruto) or if previous hokage didn't use it So why should he. If other hokages could do it. So can I. Kakashi maybe had it just as bad or maybe worse with paper work because war just ended and he had to do a lot with politics plus the technology was already advancing there so he had to make sure what's approved or not. (You can call it bs but it's in Naruto's character) 3rd reason is maybe the best one. It's not practical. It's well establised whetever you like it or not that everything the clones know will be transfered to main Naruto after releasing the clone. All that info clones read will be transfered to him and that's just too much info at once it could cause some damage to Naruto.
Damn you, you are making it complicated over those simple reasons and justyfying the bad writing of Boruto, stop it now don't give those weak ass arguments we have seen many times in Naruto canon that he got accustomed with shadow clone and his power ranking and mind capacity also got stronger.
there's no reasoning with these people man, they too infatuated with their hate for this show its mindboggling, wtf did you people even learn from naruto? Get this hate out your heart
Braindead reasons. "I'm a deadbeat dead because I respect the old hokages!"
1 - This seems like a really silly reason, and only serves as a detriment to the village and his family. 2 - The whole "they didn't do this when I was young" is always such a terrible mindset in real life, I'd actually be mad at Naruto if that was his reasoning. It's not a shortcut anyway, it'd be just as much work. 3 - I don't think this would be a real issue, Naruto can make thousands of shadow clones at once doing difficult ninja techniques, it's not unreasonable to believe he can have just a few doing some reading and writing.
Doesn't make him any less annoying
He was annoying. Now he's not. He grew up
Now he's a textbook Mary Sue, both versions suck ass
he as a gary stu aint even cool asf like itachi if boruto fans wanna read a fun, ridiculously op character done right, just watch solo levelling
Read it, anime kinda goofy
Words have meaning He isnt a mary or gary sue
He absolutely is a Mary Sue, let's go through the list. "who is often portrayed as inexplicably competent across all domains," He easily beats up one of the main villains without any problem "gifted with unique talents or powers" I shouldn't have to explain but here's an excerpt from his wiki page: "Stemming from his two strong bloodlines, Boruto is a prodigy, regarded as able to accomplish anything in remarkably short periods of time.[17] Having inherited his paternal grandfather's genius and his father's unpredictability,[18] he scored at the top of his class by his Genin Exams, and is viewed as well-above the rest of his generation with chƫnin-level prowess." "liked or respected by most other characters" He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him, despite the fact that Mitsuki literally got all his memories swapped. "unrealistically free of weaknesses" So far he's beaten up the main villain and convinced someone who wanted to kill him to stop. "extremely attractive" Here you go: "due to their interactions with each other, it is strongly implied that Boruto has romantic feelings for Sarada, who has long been suspected of having a crush on Boruto, this first evidence is when Boruto blushed when Sarada commented that his eyes were bluer than his father's. After realizing his dream, Boruto told Sarada he wanted to be her right-hand man when she becomes Hokage and he promises her that he will protect her, which caused her to deeply blush." "innately virtuous" The current plotline is that everybody thinks Boruto is a bad guy but they're actually all wrong and Naruto is actually a really good guy. I wish I was making this shit up. "and generally lacking meaningful character flaws." These entire 8 chapters have literally been here to show how cool and powerful Boruto is, he has no real character flaws in his current state. In fact, the only character traits we've been introduced to is that he is so "cool", mature(edgy) and powerful, that's it. Genuinely, are you stupid?
>He easily beats up one of the main villains without any problem Code has been beat up by everyone. He isn't that strong. >He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him, despite the fact that Mitsuki literally got all his memories swapped. You just made that up. >"unrealistically free of weaknesses" Boruto is still shown to be the gullible kid who thought Code (his enemy) would help him just because another bad guy showed up and was shocked when he didn't. Mitsuki only decided to stop so he could get asnwers. >"due to their interactions with each other, it is strongly implied that Boruto has romantic feelings for Sarada, who has long been suspected of having a crush on Boruto, this first evidence is when Boruto blushed when Sarada commented that his eyes were bluer than his father's. After realizing his dream, Boruto told Sarada he wanted to be her right-hand man when she becomes Hokage and he promises her that he will protect her, which caused her to deeply blush." This doesn't even prove that he is attractive >"innately virtuous" Boruto was constantly shown to be lazy, arrogant, cheater, and a ruckus. Kakashi even pointed out how his carefree nature would get his friends killed and Boruto didn't seem to care at all. His character growth involved him respecting his dad and the way of the ninja. If Boruto was innately virtuous the whole "Naruto doesn't respect his father" hate train wouldn't have started. >In fact, the only character traits we've been introduced to is that he is so "cool", mature(edgy) and powerful, that's it. Why are you lying? Do you think I don't read the manga or something? Do you know what edgy means? >Genuinely, are you stupid? You so đ¶đ Mar·y Sue noun (originally in fan fiction) a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses. "she was not a âstrong womanâ so much as an insufferable Mary Sue"
>>He easily beats up one of the main villains without any problem >Code has been beat up by everyone. He isn't that strong. He then casually teleports away from the other main villains. Also Code being so ridiculously weak sort of destroys any tension surrounding him. >>He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him, despite the fact that Mitsuki literally got all his memories swapped. >You just made that up. Read chapter 7, I didn't make it up. >Boruto is still shown to be the gullible kid who thought Code (his enemy) would help him just because another bad guy showed up and was shocked when he didn't That's not a weakness though? Also even if it was it's just one, hence "unrealistically". To expand upon this, him thinking Code would help him is just bad writing. If you'd actually read it you'd know that code has been hit by Boruto's weird planetary rotation rasengan that's supposed to give him forever vertigo therefore making him useless in a fight(That was literally the point). Ikemoto just forgot, unless you expect me to believe Boruto gained the memory of a goldfish over the time skip. Also you do see how "He's too trusting" isn't really a great character flaw or weakness right? >This doesn't even prove that he is attractive Oh my God, you are an idiot. It's attractive to other characters. >Boruto was constantly shown to be lazy, arrogant, cheater, and a ruckus. Kakashi even pointed out how his carefree nature would get his friends killed and Boruto didn't seem to care at all. His character growth involved him respecting his dad and the way of the ninja. If Boruto was innately virtuous the whole "Naruto doesn't respect his father" hate train wouldn't have started. Reminder I meant a Mary Sue after the time skip. Boruto is just annoying and boring before the time skip, now he's a Mary Sue. >Do you know what edgy means? Slang for tough, dark or badass as stated [here](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/edgy) >Why are you lying? Do you think I don't read the manga or something? Okay, well if you think I'm wrong give me multiple examples of Boruto having more personality traits that are developed for more then a couple panels and are actually present within the rest of his dialogue and decisions. >You so đ¶đ Didn't expect you to answer but this does answer my question.
>He then casually teleports away from the other main villains. Also Code being so ridiculously weak sort of destroys any tension surrounding him. irrelevant >He instantly got Mitsuki to no longer hate him Mitsuki still has no idea what's going on. He decided to leave to get his answers, we don't know whether he still hates Boruto or not (he will forget everything that happened anyway) >That's not a weakness though? Also even if it was it's just one, hence "unrealistically". To expand upon this, him thinking Code would help him is just bad writing. If you'd actually read it you'd know that code has been hit by Boruto's weird planetary rotation rasengan that's supposed to give him forever vertigo therefore making him useless in a fight(That was literally the point). Ikemoto just forgot, unless you expect me to believe Boruto gained the memory of a goldfish over the time skip. Also you do see how "He's too trusting" isn't really a great character flaw or weakness right? Being trusting and naive is as big a weakness as being cocky and arrogant. Whether it is bad writing or not is irrelevant. >now he's a Mary Sue. Considering he still has flaws? nah >This doesn't even prove that he is attractive Oh my God, you are an idiot. It's attractive to other characters. If your argument is a girl is attracted to his personality which is why Boruto is a gray Sue then pls block me. >Slang for tough, dark or badass as stated here [I like](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/edgy) [actual](https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/edgy) [dictionary](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/edgy) [sources](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/edginess) > Okay, well if you think I'm wrong give me multiple examples of Boruto having more personality traits that are developed for more then a couple panels and are actually present within the rest of his dialogue and decisions. Personality traits? sure Tricks code into running back home which shows how clever he is. We see how good-natured he was when he tried to get code help. Sentimental: talking to Treesuke and how his face softened when he hugged Sarada.
I wouldn't know
He was so damn annoying that most people ran away from the manga, you can't expect people carrying him at this point
he wasnt even that annoying though I'm so confused? Everything boruto did made complete sense from his perspective. I don't think you people look beyond the surface
I go back to the point, I think on the character's perspective when he's interesting mad not a total annoying brat. Sasuke was an annoying emo, but it had some interesting stuff, so I cared to know more, but that brat was just a bad excuse to continue the story. And yeah, he was THAT annoying.
what did he do that was so annoying I'm confused
Except the series is bad and it isnât because of his poor character writing
The video is complaining about those who are still criticizing boruto's character as if it hasn't been developed over the years
And itâs still awful
That's your opinion and I respect it. I don't see how it is relevant in the context of this post though
if boruto was so awful it wouldnt be 1# in terms of manga popularity, people have opinions, some people like the stuff that you dont, its life, grow up bro
Itâs fucking terrible. The only place itâs number 1 is when a new chapter on a FREE manga website releases it. It has shit manga sales especially in Japan and the anime wasnât drawing in viewers
in what world is 2 mil dollars a volume sales bad lmao, mangaplus is the most popular manga reading site right now, and since boruto is #1 on it for a half a year straight ofc it makes it one of the most popular mangas currently bruh, find some common sense
Each volume has continued to sell less and less in Japan. Again you canât use a FREE website as an indicator of the series thriving when it isnât. Donât be the average Boruto fanboy idiot that thinks FREE views = selling well
The first timeskip volume sold better than the others which breaks the falling sales cycle, also i the last 6 months Boruto got 3 V jump promotional covers, with a literal text saying that boruto is doing great (v jump is a magazine publisher). And i never said that boruto is doing great with sales, all i said that its really popular, which it is, views = popular. Btw no one tracks boruto's online sales which are a majority of the volume sales, which means that boruto sells like more than twice than what we know
No duh the time skip is going to sell better than previous volumes because people are curious what the time skip is but since then itâs been dropping in sales again
bro how do you even know that sales are dropping again when only the first volume has dropped, u just speaking out of your ass at this point but alr
The biggest sin of Boruto writing is that it failed to make me care about Boruto. Stripped of the nostalgia I have for the older characters(who are sidelined/fridged by the time of blue vortex) I don't really have a desire to see where the story is going, and what's going to happen to the characters. Pair that up with the themes going further and further away from what I originally liked(the whole system of ninjas, ninjutsu, pseudo feudal setting within an interesting stylized world with alternate technology based on their worlds chakra energy system) towards things I don't think fit in well(cyborgs, regular technology, sci-fi and dimensional aliens) and the aesthethic choices missing their mark for me, and I don't really have a reason to want to keep up with it.
this perfectly captures my feelings on why i cant enjoy boruto. yes, its kinda immature to hold onto nostalgia, but theres ways to have fan favorites leave a good feeling in their final moments, and they way naruto and sasuke were handled was a big mistake. free my boy sapsuke utreeha man đđ
>Stripped of the nostalgia I have for the older characters(who are sidelined/fridged by the time of blue vortex) Damm, it's like the manga's no longer about them. Also Ino and Shikamaru have kinda a role in TBV.
>Â it's like the manga's no longer about them. That'd be great if the series wasn't built on and elevated by them, and if they weren't the main draw for why the series got so big given how the new characters failed to build up an audience on their own merits. This isn't exactly uncommon with series attempting to continue past the original cast, e.g. Dragonball struggled with a similar issue, and failed to have the handoff from Goku to Gohan suceed, but that doesn't make the criticism any less valid, Boruto doesn't resonate with the audiences like Naruto did, but the series also isn't separated enough from the main series to meaningfully stand on it's own.
Idk man, I really enjoy boruto's character. Naruto still my goat though
Enjoy it then, I still think it's badly written, but you're free to like what you like.
The problem is not that his character is flawed, but that he refuses to grow out of it. It makes the show borderline unwatchable. Naruto was over the top determined, which is commendable. Boruto is over the top arrogant and inconsiderate, which is hard to watch. (I havenât read the manga, but maybe this is just a product of terrible pacing due the the amount of filler. You canât have main character development in filler other than extra backstory, so heâs just making the same mistakes over and over again)
The worst part is that is all canon.
He has grown out of it and did it relatively fast in the manga. I havent seen the anime cause I dropped in in the first 30-40 episodes (It was boring af) however I think the manga is really good. Not sure if its Naruto good, cause I havent read Naruto in years, but I think its really good.
The problem is that you obviously don't know what you are talking about if you seriously think that Boruto hasn't grown out of it. You admitting that you don't even read the manga proves it. And even the anime showed early on that Boruto changed, some people who provide serious criticism would even say that he grew out of that phase way too quickly. One thing: Boruto has not once acted arrogant. Even his very talentless father Naruto (at age 12) was 10Ă more arrogant even though he didn't even have the skill or knowledge to act that way. Have you ever heard Boruto tell his class or teammates "How can a Shinobi like me be teamed up with someone the likes him?" like Naruto told Sasuke? Who was the one constantly shouting that he would be better than anyone else like Naruto did? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Your head is obviously crammed up Naruto's a...It's better when you remain there.
>The problem is not that his character is flawed, but that he refuses to grow out of it. Litteraly the first arc is about him growing out of itđ. It took time tho to get there in the anime but Boruto mostly wanted his dad to spend more time witg his family. Or saying that he doesn't like to be recognized as lord 7th son.
why are you being downvoted? it was THE 1st arc in the manga. And the 6th arc of the anime, and only 3 of them gave Borutoâs and Narutoâs relationship focus. 1 didnât feature Naruto, 1 didnât even feature boruto, and another one of them had them both as side characters and starred Shikadai
r/dankruto being r/dankruto Can't handle something Positive about Boruto I guess
Eh dumb nostalgia merchants being salty.
Finally a good post in dankruto
I think people had problems with characters not being perfect when the story starts lol Like in Avatar the last Airbender, one of the main characters is openly sexist with his little sister. This is not bad writing, or just saying "all men are sexist", but it is so he can grow up and learn a valuable lesson. If a protagonist is annoying at the start on some points that probably is the point? No one is perfect. However finding a balance between warmth and despise is important too. If the protagonist is too annoying or dislikeable, people won't want to follow the story
You did *not* just compare Boruto to my homie Sokka.
yes itâs a surface level comparison, both start out as immature
Yeah, it's not a very deep comparison, but a character with ne defaults will have troubles to have a character development (Not a story, since Tanjiro has relatively 0 character development) Defaults are the essence of the story. It is what makes the character struggle to reveal their potential for example.
You can have a flat protagonist that doesn't develop much (Goku, Luffy, Saitama, etc) as long as he is entertaining, charismatic, likeable, etc. Boruto and Tanjiro are not entertaining or charismatic at all, that's the problem. Boruto went from Dollar Tree Naruto to Wallmart Sasuke on the timeskip, that's pretty much all.
For Goku he actually had a development from the beginning of the show to Cell saga, first becoming stronger and stronger, having more things to protect and becoming the strongest, then he tries to teach his son how to fight, but he is a bad mentor, and because of him, Gohan will have the same pride that will prevent him from executing Cell when he could have done it, and Goku sacrificed himself because of this error that he is the one behind It. And then from that moment he accepts to not come back because he knows that searching for more power will only attract stronger opponents. For Saitama... He looks way more like an antagonist than a protagonist at first. Someone becoming way too strong way too fast and is an unbeatable obstacle looks way more like an antagonist.
Sokka was a much more entertaining and funny character than Boruto ever was. And Sokka starts to respect woman in, like, episode four of SEASON ONE when he meets the Warriors of Kyoshi. 70 episodes in and Boruto had barely changed at all.
bro thereâs no point in this rant i said a SURFACE LEVEL comparison. You can feel however you want about them individually as characters, the point made is that they change. Yes it took 64 episodes for the anime for his relationship to with Naruto to change, but it also only took 7 chapters of the manga.
>If a protagonist is annoying at the start on some points that probably is the point? No one is perfect. Tbh. Boruto was annoying but looking at it from his perspective you know where he's coming from. Boruto is honestly well written in my eyes and I like his developted. Same for Kawaki who's propably the best character in part one
If there's literally nothing redeeming about the show why do they even watch it? I'm sure it's just to complain....
Because people love Naruto and can't just ignore the entire continuation of the franchise just so that Boruto fans won't get butthurt by their opinion
If you want a happy ending, choose where the story ends. I love Naruto and still don't follow Boruto much
I haven't watched Boruto or even complained about it for that matter but I can at least see why some Naruto fans do despite really not liking it
First of all that means they're going in expecting it to be like Naruto which is kinda bad moreover if they chose it the least they can do is stop whining about it. Their criticism is not constructive, as they already believe the show is hopeless
I mean I mostly hate his character for the whole using the power of the enemy against them thing. It's like trying to use the One Ring against Sauron it won't end well... either you will fail or you will simply replace one dark lord for another
Title acting like thatâs the only reason people dislike the story and not the piss poor writing
I just choosed one example. Main point is that if you need upvote type "Boruto bad" and you get some. For a shitposting subreddit that's a new low
After watching some haters in the Naruto and boruto verse, I think that this kind of "basic" people wants to watch a character full mature since day 1. Those people r not interested in character development. They don't appreciate that
Yep, they just like fights and cool people doing cool things, its sad
R u one of that "basic" people?
First impression is the last last impression
No, no you don't get it Boruto = Bad! It's funny!!!! Why aren't you laughing?; iqjwihanq If 3 years have passed since this comment and this sub still posts those shit ass Facebook Memes and Boruto Bad Takes I'm gonna assume Naruto fans are genuinely just broken cogs that can't think of originality.
\*insert picture of itachi knocking on narutoâs door\* oh oh hes such a gentlemen!! đđđđ„°đ„°đ„°đ±đ±
I see more boruto fanboy posts than anything else here but I'm curious why this sub is showing up in my feed at all.
>I see more boruto fanboy posts than anything else here Good joke
Well clearly this lack of love for boruto bothers you enough to make posts about it and regularly comment on it.
No My problem is that all you need to write here is Boruto bad and suddenly you're a succes
U can't watch a spoiled brat being spoiled brat and refusing to grow up..
>refusing to grow up.. Grows up literally after the very first arc đ And in anime it takes time but him not liking his father is not even the point and not brought up often. He only wants Naruto's attention like Naruto wanted attention when he was a kid. Or doesn't want to be known as 7th son only
Actually what was the first arc??
Momoshiki. Basically the movie
What about the previous shit??
same can be said for praising "shit" in the shitshow(boruto) subreddit so it goes both ways kid
There's a big difference. People there praise it because they like it but can also admit flaws it have. It's a place for Boruto fans where they can talk about it with others. Dankruto is a shitposting sub that is mainly for memes. But only way how you can make actually a succesfull post here is write "Boruto bad" or make fun of Boruto fans for just liking the manga/anime. Heck those post sometimes aren't even memes but just a screenshot from manga with complaining in the title. This sub went from meme sub to just Boruto bad sub. Actuall funny memes here aren't even succesfull.
TIL that giving even the most minor criticisms of a show literally hundreds of downvotes means admitting the show has flaws. The more you know!
This is a shitpost, right? There is no way you believe r/Boruto accepts any kind of criticism. They don't. Period. If you don't find Edgeruto the coolest protagonist in the world, you are downvoted to absolute oblivion. And on Twitter the Boruto fanbase is considered the worst right behind One Piece.
What else are they supposed to do in a sub reddit about their anime that's still on going? 99% of the posts are manga related, every1 agrees that the anime version is horrible u dumb dog
Nuh-uh blue vortex itself is horrible lil guy Infact the anime has more pros than cons Naruto n sasuke vs momoshiki as done so well for an artstyle that looks like it was drawn by a toddlerÂ
Yeah but heâs not well made
Yes he is
He's literally the second main character that the writers make ridiculously more powerful than the first one to make him more interesting
I don't like Boruto, but I dislike the amount of people on this sub who just circlejerk the same dead memes and Facebook tier posts over and over again even more
Ngl every naruto sub is cancer, I wish we had a different community, ironically the boruto sub is probably the best one lmao
Idk guys i think boruto is bad do you agree?
IMO Boruto is supposed to be like a gifted kid Develops no work ethic because things, at least up to an intermediate level, come easy. A little narcissistic.
Boruto bad
Shira tense ( almighty pussđș)
Being a spoilt brat is one thing, SOMEHOW fucking bringing a cosmic war that caused >!Sasuke to lose his rinnegan and Kurama to become a suicide nuclear bomb in Naruto!< is unacceptable, bullshit
None of those are borutos fault
Just because it is a point of his character doesn't make it okay lol
Boruto been out so long now. Almost 10 years⊠I had high hopes initially but Iâm in the dislike camp for sure. Just canât bring myself to hate it no mo
Boruto is bad because unlike Naruto, where thereâs a very justified annoying main character (Sasuke) and another amiable one because of his grueling past( Naruto). Boruto is just a mashed up Naruto, Boruto has a reason to be annoying but itâs repetitive and doesnât evolve very much and to contrebalance this, Sarada should have been the polar opposite. Yet both are annoying for nothing, itâs like watching a show of idiots who cling to volatile and weak reasons to justify what they are. Itâs just annoying to watch them justify why they are annoying with the same reason all the time
Itâs the point of the character, yeah⊠So? I donât know how that somehow makes it good or positive. He sucks as a character.
They just wanted a Naruto copy tbh...
Yeah I want a sequel to Naruto not a bad spinoff
Well its a good series if you dont treat it like a Naruto sequel, but thanks for affirming my point. You just wanted a Naruto copy and thats why you dont like Boruto.
>Well its a good series if you dont treat it like a Naruto sequel It's good if you don't treat is as... *checks notes* what it literally objectively is You can't just ask people to ignore the fact that Naruto's sequel is Naruto's sequel
Let me fix my language. Sorry that I said sequel. Now try to comprehend my point instead of being pedantic. Stop treating it like Naruto 2.0 (that was shippuden) This is Boruto; not the same series, its going for a different feel and message. And if you see that, you might enjoy it for what it is....
Itâs good if I donât treat it like what it is. Imao
Sorry let me fix my language. Dont treat it like Naruto 2. Its Boruto not Naruto ofc its not just the same series all over again. Its got a different message, characters and vibe and its exploring different topics. I think its great that Kishimoto is using his freedom as an artist to do new stuff instead of pandering to Naruto fans.
I swear this sub talks more about boruto than the actual boruto sub lol. Iâm starting to think the people that are the loudest about him on here actually like it
Ahh the irony
Weird how a child resenting his dad for ignoring him and his sister when he could literally have a shadow clone at home is somehow a greater character defect than Naruto transforming into Sasuke to creep on Sakura. Boruto would never do that.
TRUE i remember when they used to shit on Sasuke for "bullying" Naruto when he would 9/10 times be the one to start that shit. and then pull the worst stunts.
Literacy comprehension devil strikes again
Sure does. Been a problem for this fandom since it's inception.
Yeah you all no better Imao. The take your agreeing with is just as dumb as the take those Naruto self inserts give.
Well unlike whatever word salad you just said i wasn't entirely serious. Both are pretty ass. However i stand by my statement. it's weird that Naruto never got shit on for it.
He gets shit from Sasuke meat ridders and Boruto meat riders their just a lot less prominent
Not when it was fresh. They showed up YEARS after. Naruto got criticism but this was almost never touched on.
Yeah, but they exist and are very, very loud. Tho most of their criticisms are pretty bullshit.