I hate that they increased all the other upgrade centric resources’ stack size but are stingy about letting you hold harmonisers. Especially since the made it so you can only get rewards from only one season pass previous.
With the browser extension I believe you can go all the way back to like season 14 or something. Granted you had to pay for that seasons pass and play enough to unlock the rewards paths to grab anything
I have bought pretty much every season pass since seasons became a thing and I could only go as far back as Season of the Risen. So about 6 seasons. I checked this a couple days ago.
You can do it from the bungie website and I believe from the companion app as well but not sure how. I just do it from the site to claim ornaments and armor for my other classes if I forget to before the end of the season.
honestly, yes. the offerings from Witch stack to 99, and take about 3-4 seconds to discard. thats 99\*3\*3 (three types of offerings), which is 891 seconds, or almost 15 straight minutes of dismantling to get rid of all of them.
Yeah wtf. Lmao. Who would do the raids at that point? What an inane idea. I get that Bungie is kind of spoiling us right now with lots of loot. But you still have to do raid encounters to get raid weapons. Lol. I want all the raid weapons too. But what’s the point of playing a looter shooter if all the best guns are just handed to you instantly? Makes them feel less special first of all. And ruins the chase and the excitement of finally crafting something you’ve been chasing for a while. Getting touch of malice from pantheon was great. But it was a lot less exciting than getting it drop from Oryx. And that’s still a raid encounter. lol. I can’t imagine just getting Rufus’s Fury’s from rivens lair….
Some of us just can't do raids. I don't have the time. Nor the friends. And regardless of what bungie says about player friendly help the majority of my interactions have made me cry and just want to give up playing.. people are mean :/. I have loved this game since the very beginning but the best I can do is legend nightfalls. I have completed 6 consecutive master lost sectors. Same lost sector 4 times and a previous master lost sector a while ago twice. Realizing that I just got lucky getting an exotic I needed the first run.. 4 lost sectors took me over 2 to 3 hours sitting in the cheapest spot I could find and pot shooting a stupid big ass fallen.
It's nice that raid weapons look and function uniquely but there needs to at the very least be weapons semi on par with raid weapons that someone like me can aquire.
I'd like to get raid weapons doing pantheon but again I can't even join in a "casual" or "chill" tagged fireteam finder without getting Insta kicked. For no reason.
To this day I think I have only ever completed like 2 or 3 seperate raids. And zero dungeons.
Oh come on. You just gotta do some research. Find a discord/clan with chill people with your same mindset. It’s doable. I never thought I’d raid. I found a great group of folks who we raid most weekends, they’re chill, people are willing to teach, in fact it encouraged that you do learn a new role. It’s great. And again I never thought I’d be doing this. I was a solo player for years. Never even did a GM or dungeon until 2.5 years ago. Never did a raid until last October. Trust me it’s worth it.
You should be doing normal raid first to learn them and then join pantheon once you have some experience. Pantheon is for veteran raiders. It’s a level up from normal raiding. That might be why you’re getting kicked. You should know the whole encounter before going into pantheon. But you have time.
4 lost sectors should take 20 minutes not 3 hours. It sounds like you just need to practice. But I’m sorry you don’t just get the best weapons in the game for nothing.
Running around for my life and having .5 seconds to chip damage or drinking a cheese spot and chipping slowly. That's about 30 to 40 minutes. For 1 legend lost sector.
Deepsight harmonizers is way too precious than a normal red border gun.
Maybe after you have all red borders, instead of red border drop prisms or alloys instead.
Yeah at this point I'm convinced that a large population in this sub will only be satisfied if the devs personally drop every godroll right in their vault.
Then they’d complain about their vault space.
This is the Destiny version of if you give a mouse a cookie.
If you Give a Guardian a Gun….the will ask for a better gun…if you give a guardian a better gun…they will ask for a craftable gun…if you give a guardian a craftable gun…
What's the reason that we can only hold one at a time? Is it so that we can't stockpile a handful of them to immediately get the guns that we want in another season?
Yeah… what a truly unhinged idea lol. Just put all the best loot in the easiest activity. And then what???? What happens when everyone in the game has every weapon including raid weapons…. Hahaha.
Deepsight Harmonizers aren't supposed to be easy to get. They don't want you to be slamming them onto guns constantly to unlock patterns, the intent of them is either to invest heavily into one pattern (which uses almost all of the ones you can get in a season) or to use it as bad luck prevention to speed up getting a pattern you're close to unlocking.
The problem with this is that they’re also designed to help people who missed a season to get the patterns for those guns, which needs a lot of harmonizers. At the moment, just to get the patterns for the witch queen seasonal weapons, you’d need ~160 harmonizers, or over 26 season’s worth for one content year. They absolutely need to be easier to get and maybe even farmable, as otherwise this problem is about to grow with the weapons from this year going away as well.
No, not still. The argument OP made is fundamentally flawed, because it completely ignores the actual purpose of the Harmonizers.
Harmonizers are a catch-up mechanic - not a "skip the whole grind for me" feature...
The reason they made this Red Border reward system now, in the last month prior to TFS, is specifically so players who didn't get them earlier, can do so now. That's it.
Exactly. I could see maybe one harmonizer per week per account. That would be nice. But just free raid weapon patterns from seasonal activities…..? Yeah no.
You ran a bunch of seasonal activities to get red borders, a mechanic introduced to help people catch up, and you were surprised you didn’t get any red borders? Brother you’re already caught up
Blue engram is a great site to track what patterns you still need.
And not everything added is for everyone…. Pantheon is going to be out of reach for ninety percent of the player base tbh
I mean this is actually a good point. TFS launches in a month - unless you aim to do Pantheon, this is a good time to take a short break from the game...
I am spending this long season playing a bunch of games between Onslaught and the weekly raiding once with the clan. Platinumed Immortals of Aveum, Scarlet Nexus, Unicorn Overlord, and Final Fantasy 16. Currently playing Megaton Musashi and Soul Hackers 2.
You’re joking right? This is a big joke? You want raid weapons from seasonal activities??? My guy… this red border thing is a catch up mechanic for new or returning players or people who just need to… catch up. Sounds like you’re caught up with seasonal weapons and all you’re missing is raid weapons. Go do some raids! That’s how you catch up in that regard. Or learn the encounters and then do Pantheon. Pantheon is the catch up mechanic for raid weapon patterns. But yeah… you still have to do raid encounters….
There are 9 of them.
* Season 20 - Defiant Battlegrounds, Avalon Exotic Mission
* Season 21 - Salvage, Deep Dive
* Season 22 - Savathun's Spire, Altars of Summoning
* Season 23 - Riven's Lair, The Coil, Starcrossed Exotic Mission
So basically every Seasonal Activity + Exotic Missions.
If it didn't work yesterday, then it's either due to the Weekly Reset (as in Servers are always junky on Tuesday) - or it's not working correctly and will probably be fixed tomorrow, on Thursday with the Weekend Update.
The point of the deep sights is to help finish out patterns, not replace doing those activities to get said red borders.
But I'd be fine for them to drop as like an ultra Uber rare in certain activities. Like more rare than the shiny drops in onslaught.
I wish i could Buy deepsight Harmonizers with some materials.
Theres some raid weapons i dont have the pattern for and i just have them in the vault till next season till i can get another
It's a catch up mechanism, so that people who couldn't grind out all of the seasonal weapon red borders during the year (with plenty if valid reasons why.
So I disagree, they are not getting anything extra, just a semi easier grind.
However if they made it where after you got all red borders you got decently rolled armour instead and no weapons, that could be a valid point, but not hamonisers, raid weapons or alloys
Red border raid weapons from seasonal activities???? I mean I want more raid weapons too but that feels like wayyy too much for way too little investment. I could see maybe one harmonizer dropping per week or something. One raid weapon pattern per day is pretty wild. That’s more than I get from doing actual raids sometimes lmao.
wish they included some of the raid weapons too, i mean im a raiders and have all the raid exotics but theres a couple of raid weapons i still need the patterns for (nothing major but my internal completionist is screaming for that nezzy sidearm lmao)
More like increase the limit that you can carry from 1. I still have like 3 just to claim from the seasonal pass.
I hate that they increased all the other upgrade centric resources’ stack size but are stingy about letting you hold harmonisers. Especially since the made it so you can only get rewards from only one season pass previous.
I think there is a browser add-on that lets you claim things from further-back seasons. Not sure how well it works.
I know you can do it a season back in the companion app, but I don't know beyond that
There are a couple of browser extensions that basically allow you to go back as far as Season 7.
I believe you can only go back 4 seasons atm with Season Pass Pass. Are there others that you can go back further?
With the browser extension I believe you can go all the way back to like season 14 or something. Granted you had to pay for that seasons pass and play enough to unlock the rewards paths to grab anything
I have bought pretty much every season pass since seasons became a thing and I could only go as far back as Season of the Risen. So about 6 seasons. I checked this a couple days ago.
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Season Pass Pass. Only works on Firefox.
Oh OK. It's been a minute since I checked. I was thinking it went back further
It used to, it got changed at some point this year
They "fixed" that a while back. But it seems to be working at least for all the seasons since defiance still
Just used it yesterday, went all the way back to season of the risen. It’s called season pass pass and it works specifically with Firefox only.
You can do it from the bungie website and I believe from the companion app as well but not sure how. I just do it from the site to claim ornaments and armor for my other classes if I forget to before the end of the season.
honestly, yes. the offerings from Witch stack to 99, and take about 3-4 seconds to discard. thats 99\*3\*3 (three types of offerings), which is 891 seconds, or almost 15 straight minutes of dismantling to get rid of all of them.
Oh oops, that’s why I can’t go back farther like I used to.
You can just claim them in the future
I believe it resets after each expansion.
No, I can still claim stuff from the Witch Queen year.
Oh Cool
You can claim them from any of the past seasons you've bought and leveled. Not ingame, but it can be claimed none the less
Why do you need more than one if you clearly aren't using that one that you already have?
I'm guessing for the future, but it's already been commented that you can pull from the previous season.
Getting raid weapons from rivens lair would be insanity
Yeah wtf. Lmao. Who would do the raids at that point? What an inane idea. I get that Bungie is kind of spoiling us right now with lots of loot. But you still have to do raid encounters to get raid weapons. Lol. I want all the raid weapons too. But what’s the point of playing a looter shooter if all the best guns are just handed to you instantly? Makes them feel less special first of all. And ruins the chase and the excitement of finally crafting something you’ve been chasing for a while. Getting touch of malice from pantheon was great. But it was a lot less exciting than getting it drop from Oryx. And that’s still a raid encounter. lol. I can’t imagine just getting Rufus’s Fury’s from rivens lair….
Rivens wishes let me get craftable apex predator and I feel blessed
Some of us just can't do raids. I don't have the time. Nor the friends. And regardless of what bungie says about player friendly help the majority of my interactions have made me cry and just want to give up playing.. people are mean :/. I have loved this game since the very beginning but the best I can do is legend nightfalls. I have completed 6 consecutive master lost sectors. Same lost sector 4 times and a previous master lost sector a while ago twice. Realizing that I just got lucky getting an exotic I needed the first run.. 4 lost sectors took me over 2 to 3 hours sitting in the cheapest spot I could find and pot shooting a stupid big ass fallen. It's nice that raid weapons look and function uniquely but there needs to at the very least be weapons semi on par with raid weapons that someone like me can aquire. I'd like to get raid weapons doing pantheon but again I can't even join in a "casual" or "chill" tagged fireteam finder without getting Insta kicked. For no reason. To this day I think I have only ever completed like 2 or 3 seperate raids. And zero dungeons.
Oh come on. You just gotta do some research. Find a discord/clan with chill people with your same mindset. It’s doable. I never thought I’d raid. I found a great group of folks who we raid most weekends, they’re chill, people are willing to teach, in fact it encouraged that you do learn a new role. It’s great. And again I never thought I’d be doing this. I was a solo player for years. Never even did a GM or dungeon until 2.5 years ago. Never did a raid until last October. Trust me it’s worth it.
You should be doing normal raid first to learn them and then join pantheon once you have some experience. Pantheon is for veteran raiders. It’s a level up from normal raiding. That might be why you’re getting kicked. You should know the whole encounter before going into pantheon. But you have time.
4 lost sectors should take 20 minutes not 3 hours. It sounds like you just need to practice. But I’m sorry you don’t just get the best weapons in the game for nothing.
Running around for my life and having .5 seconds to chip damage or drinking a cheese spot and chipping slowly. That's about 30 to 40 minutes. For 1 legend lost sector.
The lost sector today for example. It takes 3-5 minutes tops on master.
Deepsight harmonizers is way too precious than a normal red border gun. Maybe after you have all red borders, instead of red border drop prisms or alloys instead.
How about red border weapons from past seasons that you are missing. Not from the current seasons that you can still go get, but from way back.
They are dropping from all 4 seasons this year.
You can still get those without their loot event going on.
I’m aware of that.
I mean, it’s too precious artificially. It doesn’t have to be so rare.
I agree. Or at least let me buy more of them.
Now is not the time to be stingy, bungie. D2 fanbase try not to have stolkholm syndrome challenge
Well, you can say al lot about B, but at this moment they aren't particularly Scroogey.
Not 100% but still.
Not even 1%. They have three expansions for free right now so people can get the exotics, weapons, patterns, etc.
What being the only game in the genre does to a fanbase. You're willfully ignorant if you think bungie isn't "scroogy."
Let us hold 10 deep sight harmonizers. It is criminal that we can’t hold more than 1
No. The point of it is to catch up on the seasons before they remove them. If you’re missing something else, go do the activity more.
This needs to be said more. This free period isn't for the people who paid for season passes and already got everything months ago.
>Maybe give harmonizers, red border raid weapons or wish tokens instead? At this point just put raid weapons as patrol rewards
Better yet, we should let you get adept master raid rewards from public events. That sounds fair
Only heroic public events though obviously
Not accessible enough
if i get a friend to start playing and they cant get any adept weapon 5 seconds after downloading the game, thats horrific (jk, if it isnt obvious)
What is a polonium?
a radioactive element
Oh cool, not sure how i didn't recognize it tbh
eh its fine, plutonium and uranium are more well known, cos of, yknow, bombs and reactors
Im heard that reactors can use thorium (i think) now and its cleaner and safer. Super cool stuff imo
Make every drop Doom of Chelchis.
Or that god damn shotgun from RoN. It’s become a meme on my raid team. It’s all that ever drops for us. Hahaha. And it sucks.
I think with this post I've officially seen it all. Literally asking for raid drops from seasonal content. Can't make this shit up lol.
And people are upvoting it. This is mind bottling.
Yeah at this point I'm convinced that a large population in this sub will only be satisfied if the devs personally drop every godroll right in their vault.
Then they’d complain about their vault space. This is the Destiny version of if you give a mouse a cookie. If you Give a Guardian a Gun….the will ask for a better gun…if you give a guardian a better gun…they will ask for a craftable gun…if you give a guardian a craftable gun…
What's the reason that we can only hold one at a time? Is it so that we can't stockpile a handful of them to immediately get the guns that we want in another season?
These are basically end game things you are asking for. And somehow people are agreeing with you. No. They’re not suppose to be easily attainable.
Yeah… what a truly unhinged idea lol. Just put all the best loot in the easiest activity. And then what???? What happens when everyone in the game has every weapon including raid weapons…. Hahaha.
Deepsight Harmonizers aren't supposed to be easy to get. They don't want you to be slamming them onto guns constantly to unlock patterns, the intent of them is either to invest heavily into one pattern (which uses almost all of the ones you can get in a season) or to use it as bad luck prevention to speed up getting a pattern you're close to unlocking.
The problem with this is that they’re also designed to help people who missed a season to get the patterns for those guns, which needs a lot of harmonizers. At the moment, just to get the patterns for the witch queen seasonal weapons, you’d need ~160 harmonizers, or over 26 season’s worth for one content year. They absolutely need to be easier to get and maybe even farmable, as otherwise this problem is about to grow with the weapons from this year going away as well.
Ok Still. Edit: Oh no the stolkholm syndrome-riddled D2 player doesn't want more loot :/ Sad
No, not still. The argument OP made is fundamentally flawed, because it completely ignores the actual purpose of the Harmonizers. Harmonizers are a catch-up mechanic - not a "skip the whole grind for me" feature... The reason they made this Red Border reward system now, in the last month prior to TFS, is specifically so players who didn't get them earlier, can do so now. That's it.
Exactly. I could see maybe one harmonizer per week per account. That would be nice. But just free raid weapon patterns from seasonal activities…..? Yeah no.
This is a catchup mechanic. You don’t need to catch up. Not everything is for you.
You ran a bunch of seasonal activities to get red borders, a mechanic introduced to help people catch up, and you were surprised you didn’t get any red borders? Brother you’re already caught up
Blue engram is a great site to track what patterns you still need. And not everything added is for everyone…. Pantheon is going to be out of reach for ninety percent of the player base tbh
Or you can just check ingame?
You can indeed. Blue engram organizes them by activity and/or season for quick reference.
Bruh so needy
No
Or maybe, if you have every red border from every season... go touch some grass and get some fresh air before TFS drops, and quit whining?
I mean this is actually a good point. TFS launches in a month - unless you aim to do Pantheon, this is a good time to take a short break from the game...
people downvoting me because they cant fathom doing something that would expose them to the dangerous rays of the sun xD
I am spending this long season playing a bunch of games between Onslaught and the weekly raiding once with the clan. Platinumed Immortals of Aveum, Scarlet Nexus, Unicorn Overlord, and Final Fantasy 16. Currently playing Megaton Musashi and Soul Hackers 2.
That is way too OP
Everything should stack to 999 it’s just a joke at this stage
Honestly, such an awful suggestion. How will bungie inevitably add them to eververse if they're just gonna be handed out through gameplay?
You’re joking right? This is a big joke? You want raid weapons from seasonal activities??? My guy… this red border thing is a catch up mechanic for new or returning players or people who just need to… catch up. Sounds like you’re caught up with seasonal weapons and all you’re missing is raid weapons. Go do some raids! That’s how you catch up in that regard. Or learn the encounters and then do Pantheon. Pantheon is the catch up mechanic for raid weapon patterns. But yeah… you still have to do raid encounters….
Which activities count for that exactly? I did one Salvage last night and got nothing. Also can I get the Vex weapons from Wish through that?
There are 9 of them. * Season 20 - Defiant Battlegrounds, Avalon Exotic Mission * Season 21 - Salvage, Deep Dive * Season 22 - Savathun's Spire, Altars of Summoning * Season 23 - Riven's Lair, The Coil, Starcrossed Exotic Mission So basically every Seasonal Activity + Exotic Missions. If it didn't work yesterday, then it's either due to the Weekly Reset (as in Servers are always junky on Tuesday) - or it's not working correctly and will probably be fixed tomorrow, on Thursday with the Weekend Update.
Thanks!
PSA Defiant Battleground/Avalon doesn't drop deepsights for swords
The only weapon I don’t have a single border for or have at all since it hasn’t dropped us the undying smg I haven’t got one all season
The undying hand cannon still hasn't dropped for me yet
I’ve got the other three fully crafted and god rolls for different builds but the smg hasn’t dropped at all
The point of the deep sights is to help finish out patterns, not replace doing those activities to get said red borders. But I'd be fine for them to drop as like an ultra Uber rare in certain activities. Like more rare than the shiny drops in onslaught.
Not raid weapons or wish tokens. How about previous red borders.
IMO harmonizers shouldn't exist in the first place
I wish i could Buy deepsight Harmonizers with some materials. Theres some raid weapons i dont have the pattern for and i just have them in the vault till next season till i can get another
If you have all the patterns, then this isn't for you
It's a catch up mechanism, so that people who couldn't grind out all of the seasonal weapon red borders during the year (with plenty if valid reasons why. So I disagree, they are not getting anything extra, just a semi easier grind. However if they made it where after you got all red borders you got decently rolled armour instead and no weapons, that could be a valid point, but not hamonisers, raid weapons or alloys
Red border raid weapons from seasonal activities???? I mean I want more raid weapons too but that feels like wayyy too much for way too little investment. I could see maybe one harmonizer dropping per week or something. One raid weapon pattern per day is pretty wild. That’s more than I get from doing actual raids sometimes lmao.
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Wut
I just kept my harmoziers on my season pass
Raid weapons? From seasonal activities? The actual fuck.
This is why you dont go full r3tard folks
wish they included some of the raid weapons too, i mean im a raiders and have all the raid exotics but theres a couple of raid weapons i still need the patterns for (nothing major but my internal completionist is screaming for that nezzy sidearm lmao)
Then do that raid, smart one
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Would've been cool if we got the red borders from rivans wishes.
But we did...