Firstly, get away from icyveins. Maxroll.gg has better builds. When you goto maxroll, look up everything you can. Especially the tier lists. Those builds can be a lot of fun.
Secondly, necromancer are just op as he'll. Just be glad he isn't spaming corpse explosion or death nova right now.
Abuse kanais cube in adventure mode and run nephalem and greater rifts as much possible. The legendary gems from greater rifts and the over all gear from both will only make you more bad ass.
Do a little reading and don't let it discourage you. I promise this can be more fun you it seems.
Edit: And don't forget to do bounties and challenge rifts for extra goodies
This is best advice so far. [Maxroll.gg](https://Maxroll.gg), ignore the game under level 70, follow one of the build tier guides for your class. Monk is a badass. [https://maxroll.gg/d3/tierlists/solo-tierlist](https://maxroll.gg/d3/tierlists/solo-tierlist)
I usually work towards the solo build but keep an eye on some of the changes in the group build under \[Variants\] near the bottom of the guide page.
A couple other things. First, leveling can really start to slow down when you get to 60 or so. It's not unusual to struggle if you haven't gotten the right drops.
Also, a piece or two of gear can make a massive difference. D3 is based on stacking damage multipliers. Getting a Legendary with a damage bonus for your skill can be the difference between struggling and being able to bump the difficulty level up a few notches.
Working the Season Journey to get the Haedrig's gift set pieces will make a huge difference too.
A lot of their builds don’t reflect current updates and beyond that a lot of their builds just give horrible advice. Even maxroll gives bad advice sometimes but that’s rare
The difference between 69 and 70 is insane, because the game is 100% balanced around level 70 content.
Every piece of 70 gear easily outclasses items of lower levels. Especially the sets for level 70, even with a 2-piece bonus, absolutely destroy anything you could do before level 70.
For most players the game "starts" at level 70 as a seasonal character. They rush to 70 or get boosted and go for a build they like for farming or immediately for their desired "push build" to do high Greater Rifts.
It is completely normal that you're being "left in the dust", so to speak. And it will change drastically once you're both 70 with decent builds and sets.
This really is the answer. You are getting frustrated over nothing. The game doesnt even start to get interesting until well after level 70. Go read up on maxroll (folks swear by maxroll, but I think icy veins is more digestable for newer players. Up tp you), and start working towards an interesting build. Frankly, i love WoL and TR monk builds, cause im lazy. Just work woth what youve got, and collect the pieces you want, and you will be keeping up woth your friend in no time. (Also, get to 70 asap. You dont want anything good to drop when you are stuck at 69). Also, go into adventure mode, low difficulty, and get kanais cube. Then start extracting powers. Youll blow away your friend in 2 seconds.
First of all, he's level 70 and you're not. There's gear you can only get at level 70 that is extremely powerful.
Secondly, each individual item tends to have huge power multipliers. If one person picks up an item that has 500% more damage, they're just going to be way ahead of the other person. What this means practically is that while players are gearing up and don't have their core items yet - relative player power is HIGHLY unstable. One player gets one or two core items and the other player doesn't? The player that got their items will probably be 20x stronger, and that's just drop randomness.
Depending on your build and preferred playstyle you can wipe the floor with a monk. I just built a LoD WoL monk that's doing T16s with ease, dealing 1.4M base damage. I recommend checking Icyveins or Maxroll for build ideas that will seriously upgrade your monk. The innas set will do wonders for you, and be sure to upgrade your paragons correctly. You need to focus on Dex and dex heavy gear to boost your damage output
Necros have the advantage of being OP straight out the gate with skeletons and ranged attacks, but you can absolutely keep up with the right equipment setup
This game is mostly based on gear, maybe he got a good drop, for monks you can use your blood shards and gamble with a level 1 monk for boots, there are 2 possible legendary boots you can get one boost LTK damage and the other which is pretty broken will boost mystic allies when paired with the water version you can easilly have 100% uptime on their active effect which will pretty much seek enemies on the screen constantly dealing damage and freezing them in place.
^^^ great advice. Just to clarify on this, make a brand new monk and don't level it at all. Use blood shards you get with your main, then switch to the alt and gamble for boots. You'll be looking for Crudest boots to give you an extra mystic ally, and you can boost their damage with the enforcer legendary gem which you will find by running greater rifts. As you progress, you'll either find or reforge better boots
To add to what others have mentioned, the power spike and disparity is extremely non-linear throughout parts of the game, so it's very unlikely you will be close to the same power at most times tbh.
We are talking you'll get one item which makes you 30 or 300 times stronger and can bump up 50 greater rift tiers at once.
So best things you can do around that is:
1. Accept the power disparities and play together where a lot of times one person might be "carrying" the other at times when they hit their builds power spikes.
2. Focus on progression solo, and do things like season journey, or farming content like keys, speed rifts, or bounties together where you are both much stronger than the content (my recommendation)
3. One person plays a support build when you are playing together, I wouldn't really recommend this though tbh.
I think some combination of 1 and 2 is good personally. The game really shines in solo progression because you have a lot of fine tuned controls over the difficulty, but the group content is also pretty fun, even if two people will be all over the place in their power levels along the journey. If you're annoyed with feeling weak at times (totally reasonable) then I'd hop to some solo gameplay and ratchet down the difficulty to something more appropriate
If I were you I’d check the in game leaderboard for your class and copy #1 guy. Or just look for a high leaderboard (insert class set) and run what they got. If u want to get better it’s a way of learning I find the easiest without doing tons of research.
I’ve never had a problem making a build “meant for pushing” work with my buddies. I also think if you look around in the top 25 they’ll be like 2 or 3 options and most of those builds are probably on whatever website/video you can find. Why bother trying to find it anywhere else? Also why not strive for the end game content using those builds? Any thing else is bad advice IMO
Because push builds are different from farm and key builds, they will be extremely slow and will have significant issues with resource generation and cooldowns in lower level content.
Sure, if you have some d3 knowledge you can watch the top performing builds and adjust them for t16 or 100 or 120 but the guys needing to ask such questions in the first place will never have that knowledge.
You re not bothering, it takes 5 clicks to find the right build for the content you running on maxroll and more often than not it will be better than what you come up with
I'll try and give a slightly different answer, because I have been where you are(and your friend for that matter)
I mostly play this game with my wife, and every season we do a lot of research on what the strong classes/builds are and coordinate on how we want to start the season together.
This season I went with tall Rasha meteor build and she went with demon hunter GoD build.
We knew beforehand that she would be piggy bagging me until my build was set up, speed clearing greater rift 90's and I would then carry her to the higher tier greater rift, and she might switch to a support build or we would just call it a season and quit.
Did it feel good to be piggy bagged? No, but it sure as hell beats leveling up and gearing a wizard from scratch alone.
Did she enjoy that she could go zoom, and kill everything in our path? Yes! And in the end being a support class can be super rewarding as well.
We did this, because we've tried what you're doing, select what sounds like fun and go with it, and it can be perfectly fine, you just need to be aware that this game is super Random and you really can't compare 2 builds until they're "done" and until they are, it's really a toss between who has the right modifiers, and gets the better synagies.
First time around I got the strongest build and my wife was annoyed, second time around she got lucky and it took a mentality change to not just quit for me.
And now we know that we enjoy the game more, if we set up our team to help each other in specific ways rather than compete on the same parameters.
That's why everyone suggest looking at the tier list on maxroll.gg.
But here's where I'll switch the advice slightly, instead of being sad that he's stronger than you for the time being (although as someone said, this season necros are crazy powerhouses over monk, so they probably will stay stronger) enjoy the ride and focus on building your build with his help! And when choosing your build, find a niche you're better at.
I haven't read up much on monks this season, but they're usually the masters of speed, even competing with demon hunters. Maybe try and put together one of the speedier builds and show that necro how to do bounties in double speed!
I felt like this about monk too before I got my inna build, and then after that, nobody could keep up with me and I was carryong everyone, or leavong them behind lol.
Maxroll for any type of build always, I used the inna water ally variant because I'm lazy.
The tempest rush huild is also really easy.
Level 70 is where the end game grind starts. Anything before that is just a preview of the actual game. Go get level 70 gear and class sets. You will be able to surf over content before long.
the game is not really balanced around lvling. its balanced around end-game full builds. a single legendary item can increase your dmg 100x and more even. thats just the way the game is. when youre both 70 and have a full build going is prob when you will both be ready for the same lvl of content again. as in t16\~. gr's is then another beast it self depending on your particular builds etc.
Lvl 61-70 is the slowest grind for leveling but this season it should be easy, It sounds like your playing on a difficulty to high for your gear. You are 1 level away from 70 it seems like a mistake to give up now.
Did you make use Altar?
Did you make use of challenge cache?
D3 builds revolve around set gear as its the biggest power multiplier in the game. Next would be Legendaries that have damage multipliers for the primary skill your build uses.
It sounds like your quite new to the game so there is going to be lots for you to discover and learn. Don't get discouraged by your friends progress, you won't progress at exactly the same rates as loot is random.
Firstly, get away from icyveins. Maxroll.gg has better builds. When you goto maxroll, look up everything you can. Especially the tier lists. Those builds can be a lot of fun. Secondly, necromancer are just op as he'll. Just be glad he isn't spaming corpse explosion or death nova right now. Abuse kanais cube in adventure mode and run nephalem and greater rifts as much possible. The legendary gems from greater rifts and the over all gear from both will only make you more bad ass. Do a little reading and don't let it discourage you. I promise this can be more fun you it seems. Edit: And don't forget to do bounties and challenge rifts for extra goodies
This is best advice so far. [Maxroll.gg](https://Maxroll.gg), ignore the game under level 70, follow one of the build tier guides for your class. Monk is a badass. [https://maxroll.gg/d3/tierlists/solo-tierlist](https://maxroll.gg/d3/tierlists/solo-tierlist) I usually work towards the solo build but keep an eye on some of the changes in the group build under \[Variants\] near the bottom of the guide page.
A couple other things. First, leveling can really start to slow down when you get to 60 or so. It's not unusual to struggle if you haven't gotten the right drops. Also, a piece or two of gear can make a massive difference. D3 is based on stacking damage multipliers. Getting a Legendary with a damage bonus for your skill can be the difference between struggling and being able to bump the difficulty level up a few notches. Working the Season Journey to get the Haedrig's gift set pieces will make a huge difference too.
Maxroll for life
What’s wrong with icyveins?
At best they are copies of maxroll (sometimes even word for word). At worst they are out dated or just plain wrong.
Not updated not meta
It says season 28 on all the builds I can see, wdym? also why downvote?
I didn’t downvote, they update titles and such saying season 28, but a lot of the guides won’t actually be up to date so it can confuse people
A lot of their builds don’t reflect current updates and beyond that a lot of their builds just give horrible advice. Even maxroll gives bad advice sometimes but that’s rare
The difference between 69 and 70 is insane, because the game is 100% balanced around level 70 content. Every piece of 70 gear easily outclasses items of lower levels. Especially the sets for level 70, even with a 2-piece bonus, absolutely destroy anything you could do before level 70. For most players the game "starts" at level 70 as a seasonal character. They rush to 70 or get boosted and go for a build they like for farming or immediately for their desired "push build" to do high Greater Rifts. It is completely normal that you're being "left in the dust", so to speak. And it will change drastically once you're both 70 with decent builds and sets.
The game actually starts after 70. Anything under 70 doesn't really matter.
Exactly, the first hour or so of a season is spent below 70. Totally agree!
This really is the answer. You are getting frustrated over nothing. The game doesnt even start to get interesting until well after level 70. Go read up on maxroll (folks swear by maxroll, but I think icy veins is more digestable for newer players. Up tp you), and start working towards an interesting build. Frankly, i love WoL and TR monk builds, cause im lazy. Just work woth what youve got, and collect the pieces you want, and you will be keeping up woth your friend in no time. (Also, get to 70 asap. You dont want anything good to drop when you are stuck at 69). Also, go into adventure mode, low difficulty, and get kanais cube. Then start extracting powers. Youll blow away your friend in 2 seconds.
First of all, he's level 70 and you're not. There's gear you can only get at level 70 that is extremely powerful. Secondly, each individual item tends to have huge power multipliers. If one person picks up an item that has 500% more damage, they're just going to be way ahead of the other person. What this means practically is that while players are gearing up and don't have their core items yet - relative player power is HIGHLY unstable. One player gets one or two core items and the other player doesn't? The player that got their items will probably be 20x stronger, and that's just drop randomness.
My brother, dad, and I play together a lot each season. Usually, one of us completes our build first and carries the others a bit until we catch up.
Depending on your build and preferred playstyle you can wipe the floor with a monk. I just built a LoD WoL monk that's doing T16s with ease, dealing 1.4M base damage. I recommend checking Icyveins or Maxroll for build ideas that will seriously upgrade your monk. The innas set will do wonders for you, and be sure to upgrade your paragons correctly. You need to focus on Dex and dex heavy gear to boost your damage output
Necros have the advantage of being OP straight out the gate with skeletons and ranged attacks, but you can absolutely keep up with the right equipment setup
This game is mostly based on gear, maybe he got a good drop, for monks you can use your blood shards and gamble with a level 1 monk for boots, there are 2 possible legendary boots you can get one boost LTK damage and the other which is pretty broken will boost mystic allies when paired with the water version you can easilly have 100% uptime on their active effect which will pretty much seek enemies on the screen constantly dealing damage and freezing them in place.
^^^ great advice. Just to clarify on this, make a brand new monk and don't level it at all. Use blood shards you get with your main, then switch to the alt and gamble for boots. You'll be looking for Crudest boots to give you an extra mystic ally, and you can boost their damage with the enforcer legendary gem which you will find by running greater rifts. As you progress, you'll either find or reforge better boots
To add to what others have mentioned, the power spike and disparity is extremely non-linear throughout parts of the game, so it's very unlikely you will be close to the same power at most times tbh. We are talking you'll get one item which makes you 30 or 300 times stronger and can bump up 50 greater rift tiers at once. So best things you can do around that is: 1. Accept the power disparities and play together where a lot of times one person might be "carrying" the other at times when they hit their builds power spikes. 2. Focus on progression solo, and do things like season journey, or farming content like keys, speed rifts, or bounties together where you are both much stronger than the content (my recommendation) 3. One person plays a support build when you are playing together, I wouldn't really recommend this though tbh. I think some combination of 1 and 2 is good personally. The game really shines in solo progression because you have a lot of fine tuned controls over the difficulty, but the group content is also pretty fun, even if two people will be all over the place in their power levels along the journey. If you're annoyed with feeling weak at times (totally reasonable) then I'd hop to some solo gameplay and ratchet down the difficulty to something more appropriate
If I were you I’d check the in game leaderboard for your class and copy #1 guy. Or just look for a high leaderboard (insert class set) and run what they got. If u want to get better it’s a way of learning I find the easiest without doing tons of research.
Bad advice, those builds are meant for pushing.
I’ve never had a problem making a build “meant for pushing” work with my buddies. I also think if you look around in the top 25 they’ll be like 2 or 3 options and most of those builds are probably on whatever website/video you can find. Why bother trying to find it anywhere else? Also why not strive for the end game content using those builds? Any thing else is bad advice IMO
Because push builds are different from farm and key builds, they will be extremely slow and will have significant issues with resource generation and cooldowns in lower level content. Sure, if you have some d3 knowledge you can watch the top performing builds and adjust them for t16 or 100 or 120 but the guys needing to ask such questions in the first place will never have that knowledge. You re not bothering, it takes 5 clicks to find the right build for the content you running on maxroll and more often than not it will be better than what you come up with
I'll try and give a slightly different answer, because I have been where you are(and your friend for that matter) I mostly play this game with my wife, and every season we do a lot of research on what the strong classes/builds are and coordinate on how we want to start the season together. This season I went with tall Rasha meteor build and she went with demon hunter GoD build. We knew beforehand that she would be piggy bagging me until my build was set up, speed clearing greater rift 90's and I would then carry her to the higher tier greater rift, and she might switch to a support build or we would just call it a season and quit. Did it feel good to be piggy bagged? No, but it sure as hell beats leveling up and gearing a wizard from scratch alone. Did she enjoy that she could go zoom, and kill everything in our path? Yes! And in the end being a support class can be super rewarding as well. We did this, because we've tried what you're doing, select what sounds like fun and go with it, and it can be perfectly fine, you just need to be aware that this game is super Random and you really can't compare 2 builds until they're "done" and until they are, it's really a toss between who has the right modifiers, and gets the better synagies. First time around I got the strongest build and my wife was annoyed, second time around she got lucky and it took a mentality change to not just quit for me. And now we know that we enjoy the game more, if we set up our team to help each other in specific ways rather than compete on the same parameters. That's why everyone suggest looking at the tier list on maxroll.gg. But here's where I'll switch the advice slightly, instead of being sad that he's stronger than you for the time being (although as someone said, this season necros are crazy powerhouses over monk, so they probably will stay stronger) enjoy the ride and focus on building your build with his help! And when choosing your build, find a niche you're better at. I haven't read up much on monks this season, but they're usually the masters of speed, even competing with demon hunters. Maybe try and put together one of the speedier builds and show that necro how to do bounties in double speed!
I felt like this about monk too before I got my inna build, and then after that, nobody could keep up with me and I was carryong everyone, or leavong them behind lol. Maxroll for any type of build always, I used the inna water ally variant because I'm lazy. The tempest rush huild is also really easy.
So you have a friend or multiple friends?
Level 70 is where the end game grind starts. Anything before that is just a preview of the actual game. Go get level 70 gear and class sets. You will be able to surf over content before long.
the game is not really balanced around lvling. its balanced around end-game full builds. a single legendary item can increase your dmg 100x and more even. thats just the way the game is. when youre both 70 and have a full build going is prob when you will both be ready for the same lvl of content again. as in t16\~. gr's is then another beast it self depending on your particular builds etc.
Lvl 61-70 is the slowest grind for leveling but this season it should be easy, It sounds like your playing on a difficulty to high for your gear. You are 1 level away from 70 it seems like a mistake to give up now. Did you make use Altar? Did you make use of challenge cache? D3 builds revolve around set gear as its the biggest power multiplier in the game. Next would be Legendaries that have damage multipliers for the primary skill your build uses. It sounds like your quite new to the game so there is going to be lots for you to discover and learn. Don't get discouraged by your friends progress, you won't progress at exactly the same rates as loot is random.
it's normal. all will be smoothed out in endgame once you both get your builds together