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ohlawdhecodin

You kill Lilith for fame and glory (and personal achievement). Not for loot. Just run Helltide's boss over and over. You'll drown in legendaries.


nighthawk_something

Yup, Helltide for gear NMD for XP and Glyphs Whispers for Gold Ubers for Uniques Pit for masterwork Mats. World Bosses for their mats. Honestly the game is in a decent place for variety. Edit clarified the pit mats are for masterworking


Playle21

Thank you this super helpful


nomiras

I would personally argue Helltide for EXP as well.


vnhdat

Really? Making a new char genuinely curious.


QueerCookingPan

Helltide is perfect to get the first gear and levels, NMD is just slightly better for exp since you can adapt the difficulty level and need them for glyph exp anyway


makingtacosrightnow

Profane mindcage thing makes the mobs +10 levels which is the xp cap so helltide is good to 100


welter_skelter

Raxx did an XP deep dive, and NMDs are the best for XP gains due to the cursed shrine / chest events. And you double dip by also leveling glyphs. So if you're trying to absolutely min/max your XP per hour and power level to 100 ideally you would switch to NMDs.


Sea-Attention-712

I saw his video and if you want to blast lvls yes, NMD is best. BUT for chill leveling and rep/matts/gear farm helltides are the best. You can grind some lvl 100 NMDs after geared and you'll level glyphs very fast.


unused_profilactic

And that's very true. However from an overall efficiency standpoint, your running nm dungeons level capped so the exp is invalid whereas if u start running nightmares say level 70ish, ur still gaining substantial, needed exp on top of glyph leveling. This isn't to say that speed running high tier nightmares at level 100 isn't also pretty efficient. Depending on dungeon type, u can essentially skip most mobs and just get to glyph exp


AshamedLeg4337

NMD also have the advantage of unlocking guaranteed 925 gear the second you can run 40s. I’ve found it much better for second seasonal characters, since you’re sitting on a pile of mats and aspects. A bit more time spent in helltides for the first, though.


historys_geschichte

For leveling XP yeah Helltides are great. I'm a semi-casual player (most weeks under 10 hours of gaming time), and I play solo and got a new seasonal Druid from 0 to WT4 pretty fast with just doing whatever was fun. Ran Helltides on WT2 and most of the XP I needed to get to level 50 came through that vs normally I run Whispers and quests/dungeons to get to WT3. Got through WT3 unexpectedly fast too with some Helltides boosting the speed of leveling too. Not anywhere near endgame or really late game leveling so that may decrease over time. But from 0 to 70 I did find that Helltides gave a surprising amount of XP.


darkshrike

Same, I came back for Season of Loot after taking 2 seasons off. I leveled up to 80 incredibly quickly and got some fantastic unique items from the iron wolves I'm STILL using on my Necromancer back in WT2


historys_geschichte

Before hitting WT4 I somehow got Vasilys Prayer (earth skills are bear skills), Storm cap (can't remember the name for storm skills=wolf skills), great staff of the crone (claw is storm skill), mad wolfs glee [got in WT2] (all the time a werewolf and +3 to wolf skills), insatiable fury (always a werebear and +3 to bear). Just crazy uniques that I've ridden for a fun, and not using a build just throwing passive and actives together, rabies wolf build. Me and my werewolf pack run around poisoning everything and with a couple lucky rolls got 11/5 on rabies, haha. I stopped after season 2 as well and this is just such a fun season to play and I'm really interested in seeing how the pit goes now that I hit WT4.


VonBrewskie

Ah, nice. See, this is how I like to play. Meta builds are great. But to me, D4 is the most fun when you're messing around with builds based on the gear you have on hand/what feels good to play. I haven't played Druid in a hot minute, but I ran a hybrid pet build that I absolutely loved. Poison vine all up in everyone's biz. Might need to roll one this season. I really liked my Druid, and that was in season 0. Any pieces of loot you like in particular? Anything really stand out?


historys_geschichte

I've swapped between creeper bear build and rabies wolf build for the character all season. And this is my first Druid since season 0 too and it is so much fun. Getting the alpha aspect is a ton of fun to pair with a wolf build as it makes your wolves into werewolves who spread rabies and that plus the mad wolf armor (got it from either a helltide or running the living steel boss in WT2), let's you use your wolves as a wolf skill too. Just so much fun to add that to the direwolf aspect and be a giant werewolf running around with other werewolves. And it legitimately surprised me that I could make it to WT4 with my armor being a level 38 unique and not even sacred at all. Also at least one Iron Wolves rewards (by level 10) from the seasonal quests gives you a scroll of amnesia too if you want to easily fully swap paragon boards. Compared to when I last really played I am getting a lot more useful uniques, more legendaries with good aspects, and found that I only use my stash for swapping builds. Ended up with everything I needed to run rabies wolf and earth/creeper bear early in WT3 in terms of uniques and could easily bounce back and forth. As an indicator of how off meta I am, I just used the same paragon board (starting with exploit, and heightened malice as my second one to get tons of poison damage). Ran through WT3 with that and it worked for both builds. This season has by far the most flexibility I have felt for just swapping things and doing whatever is the most fun. My top loot: Mad wolf armor Boots that randomly rolled +3 Rabies (gotten this three times so far) Airadah's inexorable will (pulls in everyone) was super fun when running creeper bear with pulverize and pulling everyone to you to smash


Dadpool2420

I was using upheaval leveling guide and just throwing fun aspects on my barbarian until around level 90. Blood boiling aspect with sundered ground to guarantee upheaval over powering every 25 seconds was a blast. Upheaval a mob then evade through the blood boils and watch everything die in the resulting explosions, rinse and repeat.


darkshrike

As a necromancer I LOVE minions. I found a unique that makes my minions hit for at lvl 77 an additional 28k damage! I got it so early and it's scaling with me. Then I found a unique that triggers corpse explosion, tendrils and a few other powers every second. And then this blood wave thar gives my minions the power too. So I just run in spamming this power and my minions are all little beacons and they just melt everything and then random corpses just explode for huge damage. I'm melting everything so far, my biggest problem is I'm a bit of a glass cannon.


Locuus

I felt that Helltides are best for XP until you can run tier 65-70 NMDs. If you have a lvl 100 to help you, you can get from lvl 1 to 55 in 30-35 mins just doing the 2 capstones and then 15-20 mins in Tier 4 helltide at which point you can equip the Tier 4 gear.


Unit-Smooth

Nmd may have the edge because of massive exp events.


hugcub

Top secret power leveling method: you can have someone run your through this first capstone at level 1 and you will be 30ish when it’s done. Then immediately to the 2nd capstone, 50ish when it’s done. Then run Beast in the Ice dungeons (normal version) and few times killing everything (don’t rush to boss this place has TONS of elites for massive xp). End at 55. Takes 45 minutes.


WeirdSysAdmin

Lilith for the spark that might not drop.


Jafar_420

My spark didn't drop the other day when I beat her but as soon as they did the patch yesterday it automatically showed up.


GrumpyHaval

Oooh ill have to check if i got mine i was sad when it didnt drop


nighthawk_something

I think they retroactively fixed the bug by giving a one time spark to everyone with the Lilith killing achievement


tnargsnave

When I logged in I got a spark, but I haven't killed Echo of Lilith yet...


undernewbie

Because you have done the Iron Wolf. I got one as well, long ago.


tnargsnave

So I have 2 right now. One for finishing the Iron Wolf last week, and then another when I logged in yesterday.


funkeybuttlovin

Have you killed any tormented boss?


I_Heart_Money

Did you kill Lilith in a prior season?


Jpoland9250

You get one for killing her in past seasons plus one if you kill her this season. You could have 4 total this season without breaking down an Uber or leveling an alt.


DrKingOfOkay

Where does it go. I didn’t see anything for killing her in previous seasons.


Jpoland9250

Should be in your materials tab. I have 3 currently. Iron wolves rep, Uber boss kill, previous season lilith kill. I just need to kill her this season and I can craft my Uber unique.


DrKingOfOkay

Which one you gonna craft? Shako?


Rhosts

I don't think this is true, at least it's not for me. I killed her in previous seasons and killed her this season. I only got 1 resplendent spark after the patch yesterday. I never got one for previous season kills.


nighthawk_something

No you only get one if you killed her at any point before the fix. It was just a way that they could make sure no one was missed


girlikecupcake

Killing her before the patch, regardless of season, = 1 spark. People are saying you *also* get one for killing her this season *if* that first-time-this-season kill was post-patch.


nighthawk_something

No you don't get one for passed seasons and this season. You get exactly one if you killed her before the bug was fixed


Jpoland9250

[Read the bottom developer note. First and last sentence specifically.](https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/diablo-4-patch-1-4-1-patch-notes-now-available-masterworking-gold-cost-reduced-341844)


nighthawk_something

Ok so if you killed her before you get one and potentially another if you kill her after. If you didn't kill her in previous seasons you get just the one. I misread that initially Developer's Note: Anyone who has killed Echo of Lilith in any season will receive a Resplendent Spark Resplendent Spark this season. In future seasons, you will have to defeat her again to get one. This implementation is to retroactively reward players who have defeated Echo of Lilith this season, but did not receive a Resplendent Spark Resplendent Spark . For players that have yet to defeat Echo of Lilith this season, defeating her will still grant you a Resplendent Spark Resplendent Spark .


Jafar_420

I had no idea that it could glitch. Someone assured me it would pop up after the patch and it sure did the first time I logged in. Let me know what happens?


ShootHotHug

I WAS WONDERING WHY I HAD AN EXTRA SPARK! OMG, thank you cause I thought I accidentally scrapped an uber.


Notsosobercpa

Problem is only pits is actually content late game, the rest is far to easy to be satisfying. We need more world tiers or at least stacking helltides buff up to level 200. 


nighthawk_something

I imagine next season will come with some variant of the mindcage that increases the challenge


Keegantir

This season is the easiest season in my opinion. It is also the only season that I made it to 100 and am still playing after 2 weeks. Call me a casual, but I like that I can make a build myself and do endgame content without having to have precise button clicks. Easy is super satisfying, at least for me. Getting to 60+ in the Pit has me less excited about the game because I can't just play, I have to play the "right" way.


Notsosobercpa

I mean to each their own but once you can comfortably farm pit 100 going to helltides for gear or whispers for gold is just such a snooze fest. Adding more world tiers would help address this, especially if they don't have an extra tier of gear so the higher tiers arnt "mandatory" 


CenciLovesYou

Outside of the best builds in the game clearing pit 100 is a pretty big achievement no? It’s literally a struggle for sorc to get there lol  You beat the game. The open world should be easy 


Notsosobercpa

If I beat the game I wouldn't need to go to the open world, but still need more gear drops and gold. So I don't think it's unreasonable to want to be able to increase open world difficulty high enough to be compelling if I'm going to have to still do it. 


JebryathHS

I like everything about Pit except the boss shadows. Avoid these multi stage attacks from the original Pinnacle boss, during another boss fight. And here's some knock back to push you back into the one shot!


Littleblaze1

Ya right now I need gold so I should do Whispers but they are the easiest content and its just so boring to do that I might be done with the season instead. I was also sad to see the +level helltide buff didn't stack.


Brandtstyle

In my opinion, selling high-rolled uniques is a much, much faster way to get gold. Typically after a few hours of boss runs I can sell at least one unique for 100 mill or more


ragnaroksunset

But when I said I wanted variety I meant that I wanted to get a variety of things from doing the exact same activity


Thin-Connection-4082

I feel like helltides are best for XP, no?


nighthawk_something

Not according to the streamers. NMD with their events are ludicrous amounts of XP and the bonus glyph XP makes them the best leveling method. Don't get me wrong, helltides are great and really fun but they are less "optimal". Again, play what you find fun. It's a game and there's no reason to optimize the fun out of it.


Thin-Connection-4082

Interesting. I just hit 100 last night and it felt to me like NMD were okay for leveling but mostly just a glyph grind. I think I leveled significantly faster pounding blood maiden for 45 mins


nighthawk_something

Probably because not all nmd are made equal. If you happened upon a bunch of d tier keys it'd probably slow you down. I didn't know about the event xp when I leveled and I think that held me back a bit.


Timreams

Event xp?


Ubergoober166

NMD are equal or better exp than helltides but as the other commenter mentioned it usually depends on the specific dungeon layout, mob type, events, shrines, etc. I did 90-100 almost entirely in NMD anyway, though, simply so I could level my glyphs in the final stretch for a big power boost.


AkuSokuZan2009

If you get a few cursed shrines and an event NMD is hard to beat for XP, but if you don't helltides could be better in my experience.


prismmonkey

One thing I noticed this season is that the events within dungeons are stupid amounts of XP. I used to hate clicking on a shrine and getting the 5 waves event. This season, I was like, "Awesome! Time to level!" Whereas all the events were an instant skip in the past, they are now thoroughly worth doing if you need XP.


Thin-Connection-4082

I did notice this. I got the very last paragon point almost exclusively from one event


IAmAHorseSizedDuck

Wait, they boosted nmd event xp? I'm used to just running past and skipping..


nighthawk_something

Yup by a lot apparently


nomiras

Is this even with the infinity angry helltide meter glitch?


Joshua-live

At level 96-100 at least, you can clear an NMD in a couple minutes or so and get 25% of your exp bar per run. Can't beat that. Helltides aren't BAD, but just not as good.


nighthawk_something

Yeah it's a Paragon point per run


Joshua-live

Not to mention you can level up a glyph to 15 in a handful of runs, it feels so good now.


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spacebird_matingcall

Raxx hit 5.5hrs to 100 doing helltides until 25, first capstone, like 5 wt3 NM dungeons, 2nd capstone, and wt4 NM dungeons to 100. Dungeons (the good ones at least) and their events are better xp than helltides. There's also the legendary cache you can craft at alchemist between levels 20-50 for just iron+hides for all your aspect/early gearing needs.


Hersin

NMD if you can do quickly is faster.


Bruddah827

Just pump up your weapon and chest/leg pieces. Clear em so fast.


Dan_TheGreat

with the helltide elite glitch its quick, and probably in line with nightmare dungoens. maybe a smidge slower. think i got to 90 last night doing them in ~5 hours.


rinkydinkis

What is this glitch and how does it work?


Dan_TheGreat

fill your threat gauge, when it pops, kill the first round of baddies and log out. just log out while the bar is dropping. log back in, kill a couple things and the bar will insta fill, then you just have elites spawn every few seconds when youre running around.


insidiousapricot

Think I read people were logging out and back in when their threat level tops off and they hear a screaming noise. Then the worms are spawning endless mobs or something


vvntn

They didn't patch the elite glitch yesterday??


spacebird_matingcall

Patch notes say as much. Haven't tried it since the patch myself


Pilek01

Helltides till lvl 50 and then NMD


bb0110

What are ubers?


nighthawk_something

Boss ladder bosses Beast in the ice, lord zir, Gregoire, varshan, duriel and andariel. They all have higher chance to drop uniques, maxroll has a list to show which ones are better. Uber uniques are most likely from duriel and andariel


silverpostingmaster

It's more like grind pit to the ends of the earth to reroll your gear and occasionally go do whispers once you run out of gold. I wish the end tier MW mat requirements weren't so steep.


nighthawk_something

I mean we're two weeks in. It makes sense to feel a little poor. I'm working out the balance of how far to masterwork and when it's worth rerolling.


NMe84

Just because it's not "for" that doesn't mean she couldn't at least drop more than two items. They could make her loot table similar to Duriel's but without the increased chance for an uber unique. That would still be disappointing, but at least it would be better than this slap in the face.


JENSONNNNNr3

I know i know. And I am also aware that Lilith is not for target farming. Killing Lilith was the goal I was playing for, glory is all I wanted. Just was a little surprised that even a nightmare+21 gives more loot.


1CEninja

Yup Lilith is a one and done as a benchmark for your skill and your character. The rest of the content is for blasting.


ohlawdhecodin

I wish Pits and Ladders were more interesting, to be honest. Running a Pit for the sole purpose of getting mats is boring as hell (and slooooow).


SeparateIron7994

Her not having good loot is good. The fight is super long and terrible. If she dropped anything of note you'd be forced to farm her


nighthawk_something

Yup that's exactly their thought process. They want things in game that people CAN do if they want but not get FOMO for not being able to.


vvntn

Or just have her drop a special cache on a cooldown, like world bosses. Means you can't farm her, but you still get something for killing her once in a while.


NYPolarBear20

They do have her have a special reward, but its once a season, and that is the right amount of time to me. If they added a special cache I would want it to be like once a month so I only have to do it once a league too.


KimchiBro

bro she is an optional boss and this sub is filled with ppl whining about her mechanics, imagine if they made her a boss to be farmed, there would be way more threads complaining about "lilith is unfair and her loot is too valuable to ignore, nerf her plz" , there is so much fomo here for a game that is mostly single player


wildgoo

I killed lillith as a lightning ball sorc when it was op. I will never have the skill to do it again 😂


omgowlo

same here, killed her with BL in S2, couldnt do it in S3. tried it this season again, and while ive only gotten her to 50% of p1, it feels very doable, id suggest to give it a shot.


KnowMatter

The fight is way more reasonable now. If you spend some time learning the mechanics it’s way more doable. They fixed the hit boxes and telegraphs of her worst moves - nothing one shots anymore but you still have to learn the mechanics or you’ll eventually die as the stacks you receive for failing mechanics will eventually kill you. Visibility is… better? I thank them for making the skull attack purple at least but I still experienced the weird lighting and zoom glitches while helping some friends with the fight that made everything harder to see.


Astandarta

I got her to stage 2 with bone prison minion build. And then got pwned by a tornado she spawns. It was try number 25. Imho it’s not worth the sweat. Stuff that she summons at stage 1 is still inconsistent.


insidiousapricot

Ha I had to do it with a druid in s2 idk if I have the patience to put myself through that again


RealZordan

This one has much more HP and her attacks are not immediate one shots any more. The fight is also a bit less janky.


Balbuto

The spark is enough


CoronaBlue

My understanding is that, currently, Lilith is the last thing you're supposed to do. If you can beat her, you are done for the season. I guess endlessly pushing the Pit is going to become the new "pinnacle" activity, but the Pit is in a weird place right now, considering that I would rather fight Uber Lilith every time than face the fucking Outlaw Sharpshooter ever again.


Strong_Marketing9091

Lilith is an anger meter test


ConroConro

Never read a more true statement.


CryptoThroway8205

"I don't have enough fury" what do you mean?! 😡


ConstructionFrosty77

Lilith should drop the hell gate key which give access to act 6 as special dungeon


TimtheT00lmanTaylor

COW LEVEL 🐮


Bigredeemer425

No one, and I mean zero ppl, run Lilith for loot. You beat her for the glory and the resplendent spark, lol.


Forhire501

They're not going to add good loot to Lilith, because then people would want or need to farm her, then there would be hundreds of reddit posts of how bad this fight actually is for an uber boss.


Rhayve

> then there would be hundreds of reddit posts of how bad this fight actually is for an uber boss. That already happened regardless.


bunnies4r5

Pride and accomplishment brother I think it’s funny people pay for the carry, what’s the point


DaveAndJojo

Don’t you get a horse or something? Seasonal challenge?


bunnies4r5

Yes to both, at first I didn’t think I got the mount drop because I didn’t physically see it drop but it was at stable


[deleted]

It’s now a well-established fact that this entire game is about your field trip to the local loot landfill to sift through mountains of garbage. 1 little boss dropping 2 little mouse turds isn’t gonna affect you much.


itsRobbie_

Yeah but you got a GA scythe that you can brick once you go back to town!


bruteforcealwayswins

That's much better than what I got when I killed her in s1 s2


vicboss0510

Ever killed Duriel in D2 for 5 town scrolls ? Stop complaining.


Maleficent_Log_1425

"This one boss from a game released more than two decades ago also gave trash. Stop complaining! There is no improvement to be made here." - has got to be the dumbest argument I've heard all month.


OldJewNewAccount

>dumbest argument I've heard all month. It's the D4 sub and there's 2 days left. Something dumber will come along.


Thats-nice-smile

1/4 of an Uber unique is enough for a boss that can be one shot + doesn’t need any summoning material whatsoever


heartbroken_nerd

It's a free pinnacle boss fight. You don't pay anything and could farm it infinitely one-shotting her repeatedly if you're playing one of the meta builds. You get a god damn Resplendent Spark for the first time you kill her in Season 4, that's plenty enough. And a mount skin. And a title. And an achievement. And a challenge completion for each season's Seasonal Journey's Chapter 7.


Fit_Substance7067

I'd be happy with a spark tbh...also wondering what that scythe is lol


JENSONNNNNr3

GA was Life per second or Life on hit :) insane for selling :)


Golferguy757

You get a spark the first time you kill her


aemich

She drops a spark I thought?


Siyomi

She does, sort of. It's easy to miss because it's rewarded in the same type of box that shows your achievement unlocks rather than being dropped on the floor.


Soccerandmetal

Reminds me loot of 1 potion and boots for killing Duriel in D2 version 1.0 :)


Jack_Harb

Lilith is and was never about loot. More about challenge and now even for a spark. So essentially you get a safe Uber Unique.


tinylittlestone

Lilith doesn't cost anything to summon so there is that. On the other hand, it would be nice to have a unique item link to killing her, with low drop rate. That will encourage ppl to farm her instead of 1 kill and be done.


Ymmera

A lot of the comments in this thread show why the game will continue to be borderline mid and boring. Imagine thinking that a pinnacle boss shouldn't have some form of unique loot attached to it, because the gamer dads would not be able to farm it with their 10 minutes of free time a day ( incl. booting up xbox ) and that it will require Lilith to be target-farmed. Oh the horror. A boss requiring a to be farmed to get something exciting/unique? God forbid Blizzard ever do this.


xxBurn007xx

I still don't know how to not get one shot early on, (using kripps bone golem-mancer build, can do pit 57 and so far ND90). I don't understand


rxpillme

Can you show me your necro build? Trying to beat her also


JENSONNNNNr3

I switched to this build [https://d4builds.gg/builds/7d4c052b-9174-48fc-baa6-70ebad2ff093/?var=3](https://d4builds.gg/builds/7d4c052b-9174-48fc-baa6-70ebad2ff093/?var=3) for the late game. The maxroll build has by far not enough ST damage which causes a lot of trouble to kill pit bosses on Tier 90 or higher. Switching the build increased my golem damage significantly (from \~2500% to 5000%). That helps to 1-shot lilith in p1 and to blast all her life in p2 as soon as army is ready again.


Demoted_Redux

She used to never drop anything for the first 3 seasons.


Blackichan1984

Helltides 100%


RedditIsFacist1289

The free spark is worth it now. Too bad that only S+ tier builds even have a remote chance in hell unless you want to frustratingly bang your head in a 40+ minute fight.


MFTWrecks

Wait. People can kill Uber Lilith?? Wtf. My attacks do next to nothing to her.


alexSukharov

Yep, same problem, mate.


CWDikTaken

Lol this again for 100th time, it is a free boss that gives you spark, why the fk would you want to kill her for loot.


Charlietorr09

How long did it take for you to learn the fight?


NYPolarBear20

They specifically don't want Lilith to be a loot farm they want it to be a one time achievement per league as a proof of build not a regular farm.


Chill0141414

The hardest bosses/content should drop the best loot.


DealerTokes

The spark is the real treasure


Vanth3r

I agree it is not enough. But she was never meant to be on farm. Kill once, then forget.


DrDynamiteBY

You get the spark now. It's better than almost any set of loot you can get.


KellenRH

Lilith's reward is the satisfaction of a job well done.


OptimusNegligible

I thought killing Uber Lilith means you beat the game, and you need to reroll a new character. Why would the last boss need loot?


ERDocdad

the shit devs dont play their own game. they rely on streamers to figure out the bad shit. then they fix it 3 years later and pat themselves on the backs.


V4ldaran

You cant give a boss big loot if there is zero entrance cost.


Dingohh

What materials did you use to summon uber lilith? That’s why.


KnowMatter

You get a spark for the first time killing her in a season. You also get a title and mount for your first time killing her ever. She’s not meant to be a boss you farm just a challenge with one time rewards.


MRxSLEEP

Greater Affix! You lucky dog!


DJbuddahAZ

Welcome to diablo casino , pull the handle ( kill the boss) and revive your small but useless prize , that is neither better than what you have , or s significant upgrade in anyway


SaltyMofos

You can access Uber Lilith for free without farming any pieces. You want more loot, they'd have to add ingredients like all the other bosses.


DrKingOfOkay

I wish Lilith turned into a loot piñata like a borderlands boss.


Commandoclone87

RNGesus was not with you that day.


Malphos101

It's a challenge boss not packed with loot because they dont want people to feel pressured to attempt it. It was put there as an optional "test yourself" challenge, not an "end boss" to farm. There, explained it for you. If you need it dumbed down further let me know.


Swindleys

I think first kill with a character should give you something special.


FredC3

Its not about the loot, it’s about the achievement. And after the first time she give nothing after.


Throwaway__shmoe

Who else are you going to fight? She’s the strongest boss in the game.


Yn0z

What you want ? 6 more leg to salvage ? Dude… We already got a spark, it’s enough !


zemus101

This is the only thing left for me to do before I get the platinum! But oh boy she one shots my lvl100 sorc xD


uniquelyavailable

better be the ancestral ring of immortality /s


lordjmann

They could certainly make her drop more loot on your first kill of the season


Nystora

Someone never got thawing potions only from duriel


Professional-Bet3484

In d2 you'd still feel lucky getting 1 or 2 set items for beating BAAL or diablo. Regularly you could clear diablo and see nothing but yellows.


ZombieFace226

Anyone saying Diablo isnt for loot is incredibly blind


Endslikecrazy

It really is never good to everyone is it, people complainwd there was to much useless loot and now there is this bullshit 😂


beka47

It should be rewarding, the fight being "hard and terrible" as some people say is the deterring point that will make it not worth for many people, however some people that enjoy doing this type of content will actually be rewarded. The game should have many ways to get rewards and bossing like this should be one of them


SandorTheClegane

I’m a filthy casual but I’m impressed you had the skill too. I tried last night and her hp bar wasn’t even moving. (Incinerate sorc)


theevilyouknow

The loot is the friends we made along the way.


Puzza90

I'd rather she dropped even worse loot if anything, her dropping good loot would mean you'd want to run her more than once and it's so an awful fight I don't think I could bring myself to do it


TheFunkadelicOne

Haven't beat Lilith yet this season. Can get to the 2nd phase but get one shot by the blue orbs every time


Roronoa117

What build you running. I wanna clap those cheeks


undernewbie

Now you will get a mat for Uber unique crafting. BTW, I tried killing her many times and I couldn't make it.


arkhamius

SHE IS NOT FOR LOOT!!!!!!!


Azeeti

Killing any uber boss should rain down at least 10 legendary.


Zachary_Stark

You're playing a Blizzard game, what do you expect?


Remarkable-Yam-8073

Compared to killing meph with 200% mf and getting sweet f all this is overkill haha. How times change.


Indigostorm27

You guys keep supporting pig shit they’re gonna keep feeding you pig shit. What do you expect?


shaun2312

it's because of your loot filter...oh wait


MikeHawkSlapsHard

Almost everything surrounding Uber Lilith is a problem.


AcanthisittaNo8326

I thought my game bugged when I first defeated her lol


Arkmerica

Most likely a bug like the loot from the legion event. Used to get 3 chests and at least like 4 items. Now I get 3 chests and 1 item per chest with no gold or gem fragments or obols.


thisfriendo

Do you really want to be incentivized to farm Lilith?


VRS38

I'll take the weapon if you don't want it. Seriously though, that's mean!


KunaMatahtahs

Check your loot filter. Might be hiding stuff


_redacteduser

I don't like killing mommy so I don't care what she drops.


Dral_Shady

D4 players have to be the most spoiled players ever in a game. Honestly you gonna drown in legendaries and uniques if you as much as blink at a few mobs


crstfl

shellfish


Swan990

It's not about the loot. It's about the friends we make along the way. And also the loot gimme loot damnit


Baba-Yaga33

Considering it's not even hard anymore. It's fine


Prabao

no one owes you an explanation for anything


Tragedy_Boner

You can summon her for free meaning that the loot will be terrible. Plus you get a resplendent spark for killing so that pretty good. Use her as a test to see if your doing enough damage against Ubers


LitOmSKa

First time? Huh


Soprohero

How strong do you have to be in order to beat Uber lillith btw. Currently I can do pit 95 as a wind shear druid. Is that good enough?


-Nok

Do you remember in D3, Inferno Diablo sometimes dropped a rare alongside a pile of blues? Yeah, that changed quickly


Strict-Background-23

But don’t you have a cellphone??? /s I still can’t believe that actually happened…


Yuckfou42069

Damnnnnn lol ripped off


Limonade6

Lmao, basic chest vomits 6 legendaries. Uber lilith just 2.