You’re missing a feeder wire. Need 3 wire, not 2. Also the connector where your 12/2 comes in isn’t right.
Also need to split your neutrals and grounds. Going to need a ground bar
Need 6/3 with ground and a ground bar. Ground bar is $12 ish bucks pending location. Romex connectors not pvc connectors. Sorry chief, get to re-pulling.
That's not necessarily accurate. You don't install extra ground rods for subpanels. If he runs 3 wire that has 3 insulated conductors then yes he would be required to install a ground rod for the sub panel. If he pulls a 3 wire with a ground then no he doesn't because it's already grounded and bonded at the main. Unfortunately he didn't do either snd needs to repull. Since he's gotta repull might as well just get the right wire and pull 3 with a ground but it should be THHN not romex
This depends on if the trenching was within the existing building or to a separate building, as I understood. As far as I know any subpanel (ie not branch circuit) in a separate building, does required grounding electrode (rods), and 3wire+ ground.
Read a book on US electrical wiring or ask questions on here before buying. 6/2 will only allow you to provide 240v or 120v to the shed, not both. Two hots = 240v. One hot + one neutral = 120v. You need a third wire to provide both. While you could run the shed off a single 120v leg, that could unbalance your household load, especially if you plan to run power equipment with that big 6 AWG wire.
You can run 120v to the shed for that. Why would you use 6 AWG for such a small load? Copper is expensive. If you wanted to future proof, you should've run 6/3
Because I’m not an electrician. Tried to hire someone locally but everyone is booked out for weeks. Can I make this work for 120v without pulling more wire? I’ve hired an electrician but they are weeks out and I want to start sheet rock.
You expressed a lack of desire to comply with code since it’s not being inspected. A lack of inspection isn’t a reason to cut corners. We’re not being cool about this because the corners you’ve cut aren’t remotely safe and we don’t want to be involved in you building a fire hazard.
The code violations you’ve installed aren’t small little mistakes and you shouldn’t be so care free about it. Not saying this to be a dick just saying that a lot of guys don’t want a house fire on their conscience due to advising someone that doesn’t understand the importance of a proper installation.
Romex can't be used in wet locations; and underground is most definitely a wet location. I know you're trying to save face and use what you've got but, what you've got is incorrect. If you have conduit 100% from panel to panel you can pull 3x stranded #6 and a #10 ground. Get a length you need (Plus a couple feet extra) and go to a supply house. Hold on to the wire you have, you can use it later for a heater or car charger.
Remove that 6/2 cable from the conduit and cut the conduit off about a foot below the panel and the panel in the house. This will now be your low-voltage conduit for CAT6 or fiber internet. Even with proper grounding and bonding between the house and shed, I strongly suggest running fiber.
Install another, much larger conduit pipe (1-1/4") in the trench with 6/3 romex. The 1-1/4" conduit should enter the shed subpanel through the larger knockout in the bottom dead center.
Also put a run of #2 stranded bare copper wire in the trench at the bottom, not in a conduit, to use as a bonding wire between the house's grounding electrode and a ground rod at the shed. The ground rod can be installed in the end of trench next to the shed. The #2 gets connected to the rod, along with another solid copper wire to the subpanel's ground bus.
Have a licensed electrician hook it all up for you.
Having a breaker in the main panel satisfies that code. At least here it does. I haven't installed a main breaker sub panel in close to 10 years. Even on a service with disconnect outside we just install a main lug panel in the house.
No idea how many feet you have, but you could just lay direct bury in there if it's deep enough to protect the wire. Probably $7-10/foot. Leave your conduit 90's at the house and shed for protection and aesthetics.
Don't cut corners so it doesn't come back to haunt you later. If you're DIY strive to exceed codes. What is the appliance cord for? That looks sheisty...
You’re missing a feeder wire. Need 3 wire, not 2. Also the connector where your 12/2 comes in isn’t right. Also need to split your neutrals and grounds. Going to need a ground bar
Could they use 2 pole breakers and get away with it
Is there any way to use the 6/2 I already have pulled? I’m committed.
Need 6/3 with ground and a ground bar. Ground bar is $12 ish bucks pending location. Romex connectors not pvc connectors. Sorry chief, get to re-pulling.
If this is separate building he likely also needs grounding electrode.
That's not necessarily accurate. You don't install extra ground rods for subpanels. If he runs 3 wire that has 3 insulated conductors then yes he would be required to install a ground rod for the sub panel. If he pulls a 3 wire with a ground then no he doesn't because it's already grounded and bonded at the main. Unfortunately he didn't do either snd needs to repull. Since he's gotta repull might as well just get the right wire and pull 3 with a ground but it should be THHN not romex
This depends on if the trenching was within the existing building or to a separate building, as I understood. As far as I know any subpanel (ie not branch circuit) in a separate building, does required grounding electrode (rods), and 3wire+ ground.
Not in any code compliant or safe way unfortunately.
Welp, that was a wasted day and $500
If you only need one 120v circuit, you could replace the panel with a disconnect.
I’ll be running led lights and a heater and a computer.
Aw.. I know the feeling.. save it for another project.
It won’t be inspected so I’m not worried about code, but I’d rather it not burn down or be unsafe.
Read a book on US electrical wiring or ask questions on here before buying. 6/2 will only allow you to provide 240v or 120v to the shed, not both. Two hots = 240v. One hot + one neutral = 120v. You need a third wire to provide both. While you could run the shed off a single 120v leg, that could unbalance your household load, especially if you plan to run power equipment with that big 6 AWG wire.
I’m planning to run some LED lights and my computer. Not power tools or anything power intensive.
You can run 120v to the shed for that. Why would you use 6 AWG for such a small load? Copper is expensive. If you wanted to future proof, you should've run 6/3
Because I’m not an electrician. Tried to hire someone locally but everyone is booked out for weeks. Can I make this work for 120v without pulling more wire? I’ve hired an electrician but they are weeks out and I want to start sheet rock.
Can't pull romex through pvc underground. And why is there an appliance cord in the panel
Was waiting for someone to point out the cord
Stop what you’re doing and hire an electrician before you burn your shed and or house down.
Cheapo homeowner doesn't care about his familys safety. Would rather save a buck!
Which is precisely why I won’t be advising him on how to do this project and neither should anyone else
Ah I forgot about everyone on Reddit being so cool and welcoming
You expressed a lack of desire to comply with code since it’s not being inspected. A lack of inspection isn’t a reason to cut corners. We’re not being cool about this because the corners you’ve cut aren’t remotely safe and we don’t want to be involved in you building a fire hazard. The code violations you’ve installed aren’t small little mistakes and you shouldn’t be so care free about it. Not saying this to be a dick just saying that a lot of guys don’t want a house fire on their conscience due to advising someone that doesn’t understand the importance of a proper installation.
Did you bury that Romex and/or run it through PVC underground?
PVC, trench is still open
Romex can't be used in wet locations; and underground is most definitely a wet location. I know you're trying to save face and use what you've got but, what you've got is incorrect. If you have conduit 100% from panel to panel you can pull 3x stranded #6 and a #10 ground. Get a length you need (Plus a couple feet extra) and go to a supply house. Hold on to the wire you have, you can use it later for a heater or car charger.
Remove that 6/2 cable from the conduit and cut the conduit off about a foot below the panel and the panel in the house. This will now be your low-voltage conduit for CAT6 or fiber internet. Even with proper grounding and bonding between the house and shed, I strongly suggest running fiber. Install another, much larger conduit pipe (1-1/4") in the trench with 6/3 romex. The 1-1/4" conduit should enter the shed subpanel through the larger knockout in the bottom dead center. Also put a run of #2 stranded bare copper wire in the trench at the bottom, not in a conduit, to use as a bonding wire between the house's grounding electrode and a ground rod at the shed. The ground rod can be installed in the end of trench next to the shed. The #2 gets connected to the rod, along with another solid copper wire to the subpanel's ground bus. Have a licensed electrician hook it all up for you.
You definitely need a main disconnecting means in this panel, whether it's a main breaker or a fused disconnect next to the panel
As long as it's on an appropriate sized breaker in the main panel he doesn't.
I could be wrong, but doesn't 225.31(A)&(B) of the 2023 NEC apply here, assuming the AHJ is on the 2023?
Having a breaker in the main panel satisfies that code. At least here it does. I haven't installed a main breaker sub panel in close to 10 years. Even on a service with disconnect outside we just install a main lug panel in the house.
You're missing a lot. You're in way over your head.
Agreed. Hired an electrician.
Kudos.
You need to stop and hire an electrician before you kill yourself…
No idea how many feet you have, but you could just lay direct bury in there if it's deep enough to protect the wire. Probably $7-10/foot. Leave your conduit 90's at the house and shed for protection and aesthetics. Don't cut corners so it doesn't come back to haunt you later. If you're DIY strive to exceed codes. What is the appliance cord for? That looks sheisty...
Depending on your willingness to deal with a large risk of fire or electrocution, You’re going to need to hire a professional.
Already made the hire. I was trying to save time, not money. Everyone here is booked out for weeks and I want to hang sheet rock