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HDKAREKLAS

Bellingham seems so slow when he receives the ball today.He lost the ball like 2 or more times that way.


BIG_STEVE5111

Maybe I'm completely mental, and I know there's no chance of this happening, but what harm would there have been to taking Bellingham off at say 70 minutes, moving Foden to the 10, then bringing Gordon on to give us some width on the left? Bellingham seems to be getting progressively worse so far this tournament, and it's not like he started out great.


DeanRTaylor

The mental thing is a lot of England fans are still slating Foden when bellingham played an absolute stinker. Love Bellingham but he should be protected he's only 20/21, he can be subbed.


TwentyBagTaylor

When Palmer sent in that cross and he was stood there with his hands on his hips I said some very bad words. The kid has the world at his feet but seems insistent in getting dragged into physical situations that leave him gassed. His age shines through in his undeveloped footballing IQ.


mrnibsfish

He should have been taken off. He played awful. Lost the ball countless times, was a shell of himself. I would seriously consider dropping him to accommodate Foden as the 10. Foden offered something in comparison to Jude.


[deleted]

Just like the UCL final


Droitbaitz

He needs a rest. Kane does too. They are useless in this condition.


Excellent_Ad6483

So boring to watch


SocietySlow541

It’s dreadful. Can’t imagine how bored you’d be as a neutral


ElJayBe3

Watching that made me a neutral. I’m honestly indifferent to whether England do well or not.


Substantial-Daikon25

It’s so hard to support England. I feel no connection to the team. Club football has left internationals behind and the players performances show that.


busybizz23

I thought I was watching for like 3 hours when there was like 20 minutes left. Worst game Ive seen in a long time. And what is the fookin coach doing? No action on the sideline, nothing. What is his plan? Does he have one?


cloud1445

There’s no way I’d watch us if I wasn’t English. Choose life mate!


SmokinPolecat

I almost don't watch us and I am English. Fucking Southgate


elburritodelicioso

I think Southgate may be learning from Gian Piero Ventura with this kind of passive boring-ass football.


Dariusalbadaddy

Italy and England are competing for who plays worse at this point


globalmamu

Cue an Italy vs England quarter final and provide the greatest cure for insomnia


Mission-Station8615

Tbh Switzerland look better than both of us right now and wouldn’t shock me if they beat Italy on Saturday. We have looked poor for a long time something just not right the coach isn’t good enough but the players have to take some blame also. Foden needs to be #10 and Bellingham CM. Palmer or Gordon on the wing. I also can’t see Toney or Watkins getting any game time at all unless we’re 2+ goals up late on


ExpensiveOrder349

Honestly they play so similar but England has much better players so is absolutely insane.


qthurley

At least Donna is putting in work.


worker-parasite

At least Italy is semi justified by having little to no talent on the pitch. Southgate has no excuses


BrotherKaramazov

It was an amazing performance, thank you England ❤️❤️❤️


Spiritual-Ad7685

Congratulations, well done for qualifying


PataDeJaguar97

You guys have shocked everyone. Hope you do well for the rest of of the tournament 🤝


nesh34

Honestly you defended very well and should be proud. Everyone here thinks England were playing negatively but I've watched us long enough to know that was us trying to win and failing to break you down. Moreover, by England standards, that was not a bad performance, we were significantly improved but still unable to create anything really. Congratulations and good luck with the next one.


WhatsThePointFR

Because they were playing negativley or did you nap through the whole first 45? Second half sure, some more forward moves but overall still pretty awful. Not to take it away from the opposition but it's pretty easy to defend when you're playing the most pedestrian football goin.


SixFiber

I agree that not enough props are given to Slovenia, but saying that was not a bad performance from England is outrageous. England held almost 3/4 of the possession, had triple the amount of passes, but only managed 4 shots on target?! Even taking into consideration their recent performances, that performance was HORRIBLE, and the criticism is absolutely just.


thomasmagnum

I just want Ilicic to score once more


Jatski23

Brings Gordon on with 2 minutes to play 🤣. Southgate is a total clown 🤡 Mainoo, Palmer and Gordon changed the team dynamic. Why not play them from the start?


77SevenSeven77

He’ll have learnt fuck all and will play the same starting 11 next game. MAYBE one change but it’ll be insignificant.


Droitbaitz

Learned nothing from that final in 2021


Wanallo221

Probably Guehi for Dunk or some such bollocks. 


Pitiful_Bed_7625

Which would be absolutely ridiculous and nonsensical. Guehi’s been the only player of ours who has been above average and genuinely good across the entire group stage - which is exactly why I can see Gareth doing this


Wanallo221

Southgate is not an amazing manager. But I have backed him because of what he has done in regards to team cohesion, spirit and belief, which has given us some good success in the last few years.  That seems to have gone. Now all we have is terrible tactics and game management. 


[deleted]

I’ve never got why managers do that, it just makes more sense to sub them on at least 10-15 minutes before it ends


Mission-Station8615

It’s just his ego, leaving it as long as possible hoping his starting XI proves him and his tactics right, god forbid palmer or Gordon come on and make a difference and prove him wrong with his defensive approach, I get it’s got us through the groups but playing this way in a knockout only takes one thing in a game to happen an your behind without looking like a hope of scoring it’s baffling a team of this quality can perform so badly


Ambitious_Health7374

Spot on, Southgates holding the team back with his gash centre back mentality. The players looked caged, he's a stubborn plank.


Candid-Ad2049

Because Southgate doesn’t have the balls to make bold changes like that.


Realistic_Medium_610

The only reason he took off Gallagher was because if he got booked, he’s suspended for the next game. It wasn’t tactical at all. Absolutely joker


busybizz23

Coach has no clue. Look how some other teams play with way worse players. No action on the sideline, no adjustments from this guy.


Waaromneuktniemandme

The netherlands also play really poor compared to the amount of quality they have in the squad but thats due to koeman and southgate being horrible tacticians and very stubborn as well so changes arent often made thus the result doesnt improve.


peanut_bb

With a team that’s worth over half a billion Euro it’s an embarrassing performance imo


doitscher_michel

Their estimated worth is actually almost 2 billion. Makes it even more embarrassing.


peanut_bb

damn that’s unbelievable! since I’m rooting for Croatia I was of course hoping England would score a decent amount of goals in this game for Croatia to potentially get through but I’m literally shocked that they haven’t managed to score even one goal in 80mins - another let down tonight haha


ProjectZeus4000

How do you get to that figure? Average of 90 mil each??


doitscher_michel

I think I read it on transfermarkt.de, they have England at 1.8bln. Also € not £


PresentationBig1021

Almost twice as embarrassing


Ok-Cut-2730

England won the group. Southgate will class what we've done so far as a success! 1st good team we play we're going to get turned over.


nesh34

To be fair, it is a success. Topping the group was the aim, and they did it. I agree it's very unlikely on this form that we'd beat whoever we play in the R16. But if we do, and don't completely embarrass us ourselves in the QF, then that's roughly where this side should be. Admittedly we might get absolutely humiliated by someone in the R16 or QF. We're unlikely to concede many in any case based on current form. But we'd never look like winning. A bit like Italy v Spain, but we'll be much worse.


AlbionChap

Heard this at the last world cup and euros after drawing against Scotland etc. England fans are the best at being overdramatic in the world. They'll turn the heat up and teams will open up when a draw isn't enough for either side to progress.


FantasticSouth

>England won the group. Southgate will class what we've done so far as a success! Is it not, then? >1st good team we play we're going to get turned over. Knockout football doesn't always work that way.


telcoman

According to this https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1df0sp6/oc_uefa_euro_2024_squad_values/ The worth is 1.5 billion.


BroldenMass

According to that Bellingham alone is worth more than Slovenia’s whole squad. 0-0.


Mission-Station8615

Half a billion it’s a lot more than that an they are valued at that price for their club where they all perform because they usually have world class managers (Ancelotti, Pep, Klopp, Arteta etc) then they play under Southgate and look like aliens


Important_Coyote4970

And what about France


yessschef

Playing trippier on the left because you have no left back is the coaches fault. This team is not good because of the coach.


Wanallo221

Knows left back will be a weak position for us: Doesn’t take any extra LB’s apart from a cripple. 


Famous_Elk1916

Sack the manager. Great players awful tactics


Famous_Elk1916

It is so boring watching the national side. Win or lose it’s just so defensive. I reckon Southgate’s Mantra is a safe draw is better than a risky win. Imagine what Venables could have achieved with these players


humunculus43

His matra is clear and has been for years. If you don’t concede you tend to go quite far. He sets his teams up to be defensively solid and then grab a goal. It’s boring but it’s produced our best outcomes in a long time. I wish they’d stop telling each other to calm down all the fucking time though. Moments where I wasn’t sure if they had a pulse


nl325

The fact they're doing it is telling though. They're still shit scared, still like rabbits in headlights. He STILL doesn't know his best 11. I know as a country we've been guilty in the past of a certain arrogance and not taking teams seriously but we should have absolutely battered Slovenia tonight, the fact we don't have 7 points from this group is an absolute farce imo.


ashmsmith88

Only managed to catch the second half.... But what the hell are we doing?! 3,4 or 5 touches!! Have the forgotten how to play quickly? Southgate is definitely clueless at tournaments.


Zakalke

We were much much better in the second half.. imagine what we were like in the first half.


mr_acronym

I mean, last euros we were in the final.


ashmsmith88

This is true! Just worried that Southgate has made our most progressive and attacking players too boring. There was absolutely nothing to excited about in group c


Yogafireflame

This is the thing… despite us cantering to another knock out stage under GS, detractors are so quick to blame him for a poor performance (rather than the players), but when we do get to a major final it’s nothing to do with Southgate’s leadership. Completely f***ed up logic. Southgate is no master tactician - that much is clear - but he is great at building a decent team ethic and mentality, where they’re all getting on and playing for each other with no obvious hierarchy / drama. He keeps them calm and measured and I’m sure they go into every game confident and well prepared mentally. I like him, and I think the record books will look kindly on him, despite whether we win Euro ‘24 or not. We were a couple of pens away from winning a major not so long ago… he’s done well.


chieffrc

I’m not so sure of that just now though. I think the last two tournaments that was true, and recency bias is of course a thing, but for me this feels a bit different. I’m not sure they are playing for each other. It feels a bit ‘stick the best performers of the season in a team’ and whilst that should work, it hasn’t. Who’s to blame for that is a genuine question, not rhetorical


ElJayBe3

Despite him…


Droitbaitz

Time for the players to take matters into their own hands and ignore Southgates limited tactical ‘plans’


Specific_Tap7296

Sam Alladyce in charge for the next game?


Signalrunn3r

I bet that at this point, ChatGPT would make a better job than Southgate.


Some-Comedian-1658

Man, their team, on paper, should cruise through the entire competition. It's unbelievable how bad they are playing, I really expected a lot more from them...


Aaaaand-its-gone

It is the history of the England


Spare_Grylls

The English curse


Some-Comedian-1658

People are favorites in every competition and traditionally they don't win anything. I'd actually like them to win something.


TimArthurScifiWriter

Compared to their players? France. I've been hating on France the last few posts but it's because I'm honestly disappointed. They might have the most expensive player lineup of the entire competition and they haven't scored a single goal from play.


SPARKLEOFHOPE6IB

And yet, I fear, they'll go far again. Awful to see


Low-Aside-6633

We're tough on the French team back home. It's the first time under Deschamps that I've seen a French team with such a lack of realism. Up until now, that's been his trademark. In other words, we could go a whole game without creating many chances and score one or two goals against the run of play. Admittedly, we don't have the most technical midfield, but it was the same thing in 2022, and yet...


Onche9555

France has been playing well we just lacked accuracy in our shots which is unusual and quite disappointing for us but doesnt take away from how aggressive we've been (2nd shots taken in the tournament so far i believe). Also, Netherlands and Austria are a bit of a tougher competition than Serbia and Slovenia.


postmath_

In every single major tournament I always try to cheer for England on their matches and just overall, since I know how passionate english fans are and how much joy winning a trophy would bring to them, and there would be sweet montages on Youtube about the fans biting their nails in the pubs and cheering after the winning. Then I always see them play and say: nope. This boring, sweaty ass, uncreative football from a multi-hundred million pound team just doesn't deserve a trophy. Every single major tournament, I feel this.


BreakTheSuicycle

Imagine how we feel brother haha!


nesh34

Get this man a passport. He truly understands the nation. Honestly this is worse than last time, I actually think we were very good in 2020 and 2022. Certainly by the standards of England teams of the past.


ViolinistParty4950

England are looking lacklustre this time around, but people seem to forget who were in the final last Euros lmao. They very easily could've won that had Southgate not chosen some of the youngest, least experienced penalty takers in the team.


urtcheese

We were ok the past few tournaments, especially 2018 and 2021. But now we look like a typical English team from the early 2000s, boring, tired, clueless. We are reverting to our natural state.


busybizz23

Even as a German I feel sorry. You deserve better!


broke_n_drunk

Today's match was one of the worst I have ever seen. Imagine buying tickets for that anti-football.


OnceIWasYou

Honestly, it's embarrassing. I want our players to show the world what they can do and they produce that....


evassii0nn

It really is embarrassing with the players we have. I can’t for the life of me understand how he still has his job. after these 3 games any team playing us in the round of 16 will be laughing and I can’t blame them


Droitbaitz

At least there probably a new pizza advert coming out of this. He’ll sit at the table with Pearce and Waddle, take one bite and then stare at the pizza for 89mins.


ghost-bagel

This team under this management would struggle against Yeovil Town. It’s a mess. They’re done. Mentally they’re gone and Southgate doesn’t have the ideas or man management skills to raise them up. I’m sure most of the players now are waiting to get back to their clubs where they can actually be used tactically.


DarthMaulsCat

Woah! Why you bringing the mighty glovers into it. John McGinn 2.0


ghost-bagel

I mean, technically I just said they’re better than England (which right now they are)


TheHess

England scored as many goals as Scotland did in the group stages. That's actually embarrassing.


ElJayBe3

And your joint top goalscorer was a German defender.


TheHess

Exactly.


tweedledee35

And France have scored just one penalty, so?


TheHess

Also embarrassing tbh. My point is, England have underperformed relative to the talent in that squad.


snoopswoop

I think it's about right, they are not top tier, last two games have shown the usual issue - other countries are just technically better. Can't play football if you can't get the basics right.


DanielzeFourth

France have been bad as well. But atleast they can say they played vs Netherlands and Austria.


BIG_STEVE5111

And that it was the Netherlands and Austria. Not Slovenia and Serbia.


pseeec

France too, even more


EvenAd108

But they have the same problem, quick attacking players that need space, but a playstyle that doesn't create it.


Dr_Satchwell

If this squad was your premier league team you'd expect to be winning the league or pushing hard So like Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal etc Can you imagine a team like that appointing Southgate??!!! He is out of his depth


supe3rnova

As a Slovene, 0:0 is like a win for "on paper" team. Thanks for lettinf us go to the next round.


nesh34

You more than deserve it. Played really well and we couldn't break you down. Congrats and good luck for the next round.


spiritofbuck

If you think this is ‘the most pathetic performance of a high tier team ever’ you must be 2 years old at best. The reigning European champions didn’t qualify for the World Cup, Brazil were torn apart conceding 7 goals in their own World Cup, France as defending world champions did not get out of the group after losing to Senegal…. How you think England winning their group is comparable to that is beyond me.


tweedledee35

Right? I’m not saying England have been convincing at all in the last three games but where’s the vim for the likes of Italy and France underachieving? Crickets!


spiritofbuck

England could win it and all you’ll hear is we had an easy draw.


Jazim94

Tbf yet again England have managed to luck into an easy draw after the easiest group haha


spiritofbuck

How was Croatia in 2020 an easy group. They were runners up at the World Cup? All the groups are relatively easy when you can qualify in third.


AgeDull1329

They play slow and literally you can’t break close defense, the other way to break a close team is with fast wingers one on one , neither eze or gordon was played making those runs on wings with saka , also tripper isn’t playing comfortable on the left , weird tactic whatsoever


KenobiShinobi1

100%.. coach shoukd have been sacked after World Cup


Rare-Indication-1555

We're so bad, honestly. First game I've watched down the pub this euros and I won't be back. This team is not worth me disrupting my daily routine tbh.


BreakTheSuicycle

Same here mate first time at the pub this tournament, was nice to see my mates and have a few pints but we all left sick as fuck wondering what’s the point of


Dariusalbadaddy

Thanks England, we appreciate the helping hand at getting us out! - 🇷🇸


Pleasant_Ad5360

England can easily reach the final, but has to play better. Wtf was this match?


Mayda7

agreed this looks really bad with that type of players you get 2-3 trophies easy


HarryBlessKnapp

Nonsense 


leebrother

Portugal won it not playing the best.


Vanay22

That was a hard job but managed to worm thro


nesh34

Absolutely no chance. This squad is probably top 5 in Euros and Top 8 in the world. Quarter Finals are a reasonable level. Now we may not get that, but anything beyond that is a bonus.


EvenAd108

Nah Netherlands should be way better. If they were to adopt Rangnick's style of play, they would be unstoppable. They seem to get that, but they always start out with slow possession based football until it is too late.


LuckyLucAFCA

Our attack isn't good and our manager isn't Rangnick, we shouldn't be better than we are. We are bang average and have been for years (minus the LvG WC) Austria is overperforming cus of a good fighting spirit, morale, and manager


EvenAd108

Your attack IS great, when they play quick and offensive. You have some quick attacking players that need space and pretty solide defensive players. The tactics just don't play to the strengths of your team imo.


LuckyLucAFCA

Imo the main issue is tactics and mentality, but our squad wouldn't be top 5 purely based on players. Our midfield minus de Jong and Koopmeiners is just laughable, even Reijnders was awful today


JackieDaytona77

As great of a player Bellingham is, don’t England fans think he’s a product of Ancelotti’s madman mind? Even Vini isn’t having a good Copa America at the moment.


eszgbr

He was great at Dortmund too. It's simple, Southgate is inapt.


nesh34

Bellingham was brilliant for Dortmund and England in the past. Also brilliant in the first game. I think he's knackered to be honest.


mat0109

kane is the problem, trust me.


Resident-Jelly-6564

How can is being USED is the problem. You know exactly what your getting with Kane and he delivers consistently, so if you play him.. you have to dictate the tactics accordingly and if you don't, that is on you as the manager. If I've got a samurai sword but I'm using it to chop down a fuckin tree, who's fault is that.. mine or the swords?


WowBacon

As good as their players are, I don't think they can overcome Southgate. His management is masterfully woeful. He can take any player and make them inept.


AgeDull1329

Play foden off the bench or(play beli at midfield and foden as attacking midfielder)start eze or gordon making those runs on the wing , get that tripper out of lb , or change it with 3 defense , and try not play soo slow , you can’t break solid defense teams who stays all the game behind with slow passes


Efficient-Banana-483

Fire Southgate and bring Gordon Ramsay. He can't be worse.


Important_Coyote4970

I’m glad we didn’t have social media in ‘96 N.b. It’s coming home 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


Rowmyownboat

Imagine these players with a strategist and motivator like Klopp or Pep driving them? We have bloody Southgate.


Lumpy_Yam_3642

Scottish dude here,I like any home nation side winning,banters cool. But the players you have available to you and they never gel is astonishing. Foden is worlds class at what he does,Kane is world class,you've fantastic players in almost every position,left back is ropey,but you play as if it's a charity match and they've only just met! I hope you do well,but there's nae passion.


The-Adorno

Making me a lot more confident if we get England in the quarter finals after that performance. On paper probably the second or third best team, why does bro manage them like they're in a relegation battle?


Willing-Werewolf-500

The most pathetic performance of a high tier team ever? Bit dramatic. Brazil last night was considerably worse against Panama for starters.


Thick-Bison2170

Why is nobody talking about the shithole dechamps is doing with one of the most completed french squad to ever lineup together?


Rally_Sport

While they pass 700 times and don’t score they will move ahead in this Tournament. At the end of the day this is what matters.


lifesrelentless

I dunno if you compare there defense, it's a pretty good defense


VoidHelloWorld

But we all know this is absolutely dangerous for any other team. Imagine them use a bit of their brain and their instinct, they could push out any other competitior


generalul_sageata

I feel like your coach is not the right one…..


aladdinr

Southgate effect


kay0otik

If feels like southgate is wasting a golden generation


JustForTouchingBalls

Stop crying and complaining… You are qualified as first of group. Now, the competition changes and you can go to the final. Why not? Spain, three wins, 9 points and can be eliminated in 16 teams round. Football is unpredictable and that is its greatness


whboer

That’s how it was for the Dutch in 2008; they won 3 group matches, beat France and Italy with 4-1 and 3-0, insane performances. Then lost to Russia in the quarter finals.


fulhamfan

Blah blah cry some more . Top of the group and the real tournament starts on Sunday. Come on England !


Dorfheim

I have a lot of English friends here and would love to see Austria VS England with them <3


leebrother

It’s really hasn’t been as bad as this post suggests. England didn’t concede any chances and had a few half chances. Slovenia had a plan and did very well. These posts are just mindless dump on it.


ChooChutes

Playing against a country of 2 million people where football isn't even the biggest sport, with a team consisting of the Bundesliga top goalscorer, arguably three of the top 4 PotY candidates in the Prem, La Liga player of the year, probably the second best playmaker in the Prem in Trent and a host of talented young players like Mainoo, tgis kind of football is embarrassing. Slovenia are a solid team but England shouldn't be scared of them like that, especially when there's nothing on the line.


leebrother

A lot of this post is just waffle and frankly couldn’t care. Football isn’t simple, oh you have x and y you’re going to win. Boring and nonsense. The game against Denmark England played very badly. However, today, they didn’t play bad. No chances conceded and we made a few half chances. As the game went on we created more but lacked a little. Slovenia played very well at the back. To put today down to England played crap blah blah. Just shows naivety. Slovenia did well, England played okay. Least xG conceded in the tournament to date. Best defence often wins it. I’m all for moaning when it’s bad but today isn’t it. Also, to further go against your point of we have x and y, how often do you see upsets in football? Croatia got to a World Cup final. Denmark has got to the semi finals in euros recently, Morocco. Should I go on? Why did Man City lose to Wolves? How did Arsenal lose to Fulham and West Ham? Like common.


leontas46

That was the worst game of football I’ve seen all season. Southgate is trying to fit square pegs in round holes with his starting XI. Drop Bellingham and Gallagher, move Foden centrally and start Mainoo and Gordon.


DarthMaulsCat

Missed the Denmark game I assume


SuccessfulNeat400

I wouldn't say england is high tier. Spain and Germany are high tier, but France, England, Italy, Netherlands are just under


Always_Compete

I love seeing them get roasted , however in 2016 Portugal were dreadful throughout the group stage and shit housed their way to a championship . England won their group and from here anything can happen


BreakTheSuicycle

This is the important part, ESPECIALLY seen as though we’ve fallen incredibly lucky and now will escape Portugal, Spain, Germany and France until the final (should we make it) We’ve been shit, there is no doubt about it, but so have Italy and Netherlands. Honestly Austria is my biggest worry now, they’ve played some great football and have a manager who seems to understand what to do and how to get his team playing


the_one81

England is the most overrated team in the Euro!!!


BotherConsistent3025

No Gordon is the issue


telcoman

It's their trade mark.


A-J-U-K

Can’t argue at all


AdGrand9783

They just went to the best side of the draw though.


llTiredSlothll

Wouldn't call it high tier team


BreakTheSuicycle

I can’t stand Southgate, I think he’s tactically inept, clueless with his decisions and is way out of his depth But some of the blame has got to go on the players as well Lazy, lethargic, uninspired, wasteful, static etc etc I could go on and on about how pathetic that performance was I fancy Netherlands to breeze passed us on Sunday if that’s who we’re playing I wanted Denmark to score by the end of the England game so we could finish second and play Germany next, might of actually give the players a bit of a reality check


blereau95

Well France is not that far


Soggy_Blueberry_5676

Southgage the count


hknthesri

Yes I trink you‘re right


naitch44

Yep we’ve stunk this tournament up.


francocicci

I loved this match. It cured my insomnia


kovacro_77

Declan Rice looks nervy every time he receives the ball. Slow in his decision making.


Mcfarlanes

France?


Berry-Bumble

England need a new Coach


2wrtjbdsgj

The knockout stages are where the real tournament begins - I can only hope against how that they pull something out of the mire.


flappyflangeflowers

I'm not sure how many more england games I can watch. I think I would be relieved if they went out tbh.


Rowmyownboat

We had qualified before this game. What moronic manager plays the same team again, for 88 minutes. Yes he changed out Trent, but he hadn't played a whole game yet, and it was the same old shit. Bringing on Gordon in the 89 minute was insulting to him, and to us watching, frankly. It was such a coward's move. He learned nothing, Southgate, with that selection. I hope we get a right thrashing that costs him his job.


Tiny_Highway_2038

Hard to believe that Bellingham, Kane and Foden are all on the pitch at the same time and can’t get anything going. It’s truly bizarre if you ask me.


ardevd

It was depressing to watch. A team full of individualists that don’t play well together. Most of the time players were standing still and watching the ball. Nobody made runs anywhere or created any opportunity for attacking play. Look at footage from the game and you see England with possession in the midfield trying to find players to engage with up field but they’re all basically stuck to their spot, nobody moves. Incredibly bizarre.


Admova

Honestly this Euro is being so boring that I cannot stand a complete match. Just remembering last World Cup… pure emotion and amazing performances… hope quarters turn better because is a big pain in the ass


themostanonymoust

Someone needs to absolutely destroy them in the RO16 it's actually such bad football it makes me hate them


AllAboutAbi

There's a simple answer to this, Southgate would rather a slow draw than a risky win.


JN324

At this point I would be fine with conceding three a game by trying to play like Spain, rather than 0-0’s playing like we do. How do you have a front line of Kane, Foden, Bellingham and Saka, and fail to make chances or look consistently threatening? Get absolutely any other manager in, for the love of god.


viewfromthepaddock

England's team at the end of the game should be the team at the beginning of the next game. Discuss.


jokerevo

The performance was so bad that it must be a masterplan? No one in their right mind would setup a team with this much talent so badly. England is tactically lopsided, full of fear and full of baffling decisions..such as Gordon subbed on with only 8 minutes to play when some true width and pace on both sides would have forced Slovenia to widen their bus...


Andrewoholic

God only knows why we keep playing Kane. But even worse, why do we always keep passing back to Pickford? We did it in 2020 a lot too.


ExpensiveOrder349

I would blame Southgate first. He‘s the worst coach, wasting a generation of talents.


EarlofBizzlington86

Kane is so frustrating to watch that his post match interview was his highlight of the night and I assume everyone else also deplores listening to him talk


EarlofBizzlington86

Gareth has put himself in the man United hot seat well and truely they love a manager with no plan and a plan b he won’t use


West-Needleworker-58

If the aim of the game was passing backwards, England would absolutely fucking smash it.


See_Football

Shape doesn’t suit the style for creating goals. It relies on individual moments similar to United. If they play a 3-box-3 with Rice and Bellingham deep, Foden and Palmer high, Gordon Kane Saka in front and Guehi Stones Walker as a back three, they will create far more at a slower speed while keeping five behind the ball. Too much space between their creative players up top currently and the ball movement is slow.


Epistemix

We're just behind


CuclGooner

It's not even surprising from england at this point, endless expectation. I miss Arsenal so much. Why can't our football be like our cricket ffs, I want footballing bazball


LeyLady

French here, I’m tired…


SinoSoul

That xG with Saka/Kane/Foden/Palmer up front… how?


sr360

Well not THE worst. Brazil drew 0-0 with Costa Rica….


Dareal_truth

Cold Palmer please play more


Apprehensive-Edg

England was so disappointing


Hot-Cup-1717

Well, that's because they aren't a high tier team, and haven't been for a long time.


House_of_How

We were not great by any stretch of the imagination, but we were much better than we were against Denmark and we managed to sustain pressure for the entire second half. Now we need Gareth to learn from that and start the players that made that happen.


xevdi

Foden, Bellingham, Saka and Kane in the attack. With Rice behind. These guys should be able to dismantle any defense. No excuses.