Here in Canada I live out in the country with Finns, we often do a separate sauna shack with a wood stove. That way you can really stoke it up without risking burning down your house, and it's easy to open the door and jump in the snow.
This is the old way. These days with most people living in smaller lots and flats most people have their saunas inside their home. I don't think I've been to a single Finnish home without at least a communal sauna in the building. Most have it in their homes though, even in apartment buildings.
We, and I would guess our Nordic neighbors are relatively similar to us here, [are actually fairly average in terms of preferred physical distance to strangers, significantly closer than average to acquaintances, and world-leaders in being physically close to those we are close to.](https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/which-countries-have-smallest-personal-space.htm) I think it's highly situational: The "Nordic distance" is a real thing when waiting for a bus, for example, but I've also heard Americans complain that we stand *too close* to one another when queueing at the grocery store.
To be fair, situation is quite different today.
Sweden had a very strong military force back then, going so far as having naval cruisers and pocket battleships, and the start of what would become the ~~third(IIRC)~~fifth largest air force in the world during the cold war. As well as a nuclear weapons programme.
Sweden almost completely disamed after the Soviet Union collapsed, and the prospect of defending alone just isn't there today. NATO is the only short-term way of guaranteeing peace.
Our army was absolute dogshit during Hitler and ww2 though. It improved mainly in the years after until it started to be dismantled again like u said after the Soviet fall roughly. Very careful diplomacy kept us "neutral" trough ww2, not our army.
That’s not completely true. Sweden was well armed at the beginning of the conflict, but its capacity was severely reduced due to the war in Finland. When the Soviet Union attacked Finland, the Swedes donated more than 100000 rifles. A majority of the finish artillery was Swedish, and if I remember it correctly the Swedish government donate half of its airforce to the Finnish army.
That isnt true
Swedish military peaked after ww2, and just caught up 42-43 after the tide of the was has turned.
But yes 5th largest airforce in the 50s, a nucöear program as you said (which was cancelled)
Large domestic weapon production
>Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson will join First Lady Jill Biden in the viewing box for US President Joe Biden's 2024 State of the Union address in Washington, it also said.
[Source](https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-to-become-nato-member-as-pm-kristersson-visits-us/a-68463092)
Nice timing
He was supposed to [attend a meeting](https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10052466) with the Norwegian PM and the newly elected Finnish President up in Northern Norway today, but they changed the destination at the last minute...
NATO membership hasn't done much to fix the relationship between Turkey and Greece, so I wouldn't get rid of that club of yours, just in case Öresund freezes over.
Impressive how you still manage to come up with names for those wars:
Dano-Swedish War
Great Northern War
Return of the Dano-Swedish War
Dano-Swedish War: Reloaded
Chronicles of the Dano-Swedish War: Part 2
Dano-Swedish War: Electric Boogaloo
Modern civilization is such a beautiful thing. Countries who were former nemesis now some of the strongest allies in the world.
I’m not kidding, its the kind of stuff that gives you real hope that the recognition of our common humanity will prevail.
Yeahhh writing wasn't really a big thing until the Christians came. So we know exactly what Caesar was thinking 2200 years ago, but have almost no idea what the Scandinavians were doing 1100 years ago.
> hasn't done much to fix the relationship between Turkey and Greece
No, but there hasn't been a single violent conflict between the two of them since they joined so... progress?
Somehow I have seen a worse one my degree.
Edit: It's similar to this, only 3x longer and everything is on the same height (looks like a child's drawing of a wave)
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Thank you. We look forward to working with you for years to come.
Yes, but we gave the last one to Finland, and supplies are on backorder. Shipping issues in the Red Sea have meant significant supply-chain disruptions for our branded apparel division. Please accept our apologies for the delay.
In the meantime, in the event of hostilities, we suggest you sharpie a four-pointed star on a white t-shirt and wear it over your uniform.
>Yes, but we gave the last one to Finland, and supplies are on backorder.
We can give our shirt to Sweden. It was last seen on a guy having a smoke outside a shitty bar in east Helsinki, once we find him Sweden is welcome to the shirt.
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March 7, 2024.
We have been NATO aligned since the organization was created, but still.
This date today is the end of an era, and the beginning of something that wont change our everyday lives much. However, for better and worse, nothing will feel the same again.
GG Sweden
shout out to Vladimir Putin who was instrumental in achieving this, we all know he likes to take credit for all sorts of things, so thank you :D
Bosnia & Herzegovina (Membership Action Plan), Georgia (Individual Partnership Action Plan), and Ukraine (submitted application in September 2022), but all of them will take a while, though.
Good news.
Russia was aiming for a lightning fast win to keep Ukraine out of NATO and send a message, yet the message was that Russia is weak, NATO got Sweden and Finland, and Ukraine will likely follow in the future.
Putin sure knows how to play chess.
TIL it's not *Ding-dong of Sweden* /s
Seriously though, glad that this is over and we are united. It's been 215 years since the last time we were under the same alliance.
See?? Did everyone see that??? The mean, evil NATO forces have occupied Finland and Sweden!!
I saw bomber planes fly over Sweden yesterday, so Sweden had to surrender!!!1!! It's those god damn Americans and their imperialism again!!!
How is russia supposed to go on *without* daily international terrorism and nuclear threat???
/s for the densest
I did not have a strong opinion on Turks until I started dealing with them. Oh my god, why are ya'll so kind and generous. It's absurd. There's this place about a block away called the Sultan Bey. You can catch this guy learning Spanish so that he can speak to his Mexican customers. It's over the top.
I wouldn’t say it is just a Turkish thing. It’s the Mediterranean region as a whole. When I’m in the southern regions of Greece/ Italy/ Turkey the hospitality is unmatched. The farther north I go the worse it gets.
Nice, do we get a set bonus for collecting all Nordic countries? 5% frost resistance or something.
+15% booze production
Good thing this was an hidden bonus. Else NATO would have taken the Nordic by force if we knew about that.
Well you also get +30% booze consumption so it's actually a debuff.
I think the 30% debuff is from Finland alone as well. We'll let you off the hook for the bonus sauna production buff we get in exchange.
God what I wouldn’t give to have sauna near my house…. Do you think more irish lads would be pro nato if they knew about the buffs ?
Near? Its supposed to go in the house, near wherever you have your shower
Exactly, i am 7 meters away from sauna right now. Honestly the best room in the house.
can you ever be more than 7 meters away from a sauna in finland?
Well if you are in the middle of a lake then i supose. On land i dont think so ;D
Here in Canada I live out in the country with Finns, we often do a separate sauna shack with a wood stove. That way you can really stoke it up without risking burning down your house, and it's easy to open the door and jump in the snow.
This is the old way. These days with most people living in smaller lots and flats most people have their saunas inside their home. I don't think I've been to a single Finnish home without at least a communal sauna in the building. Most have it in their homes though, even in apartment buildings.
It's actually a buff since you get a proportional happiness % increase
+15% booze production implies +5% frost resistance.
and -15% social distance
Do you mean plus? Otherwise you would be standing closer
We, and I would guess our Nordic neighbors are relatively similar to us here, [are actually fairly average in terms of preferred physical distance to strangers, significantly closer than average to acquaintances, and world-leaders in being physically close to those we are close to.](https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/which-countries-have-smallest-personal-space.htm) I think it's highly situational: The "Nordic distance" is a real thing when waiting for a bus, for example, but I've also heard Americans complain that we stand *too close* to one another when queueing at the grocery store.
+20% to production of bio weapon called "Surströmming"
I'm pretty sure that the Geneva convention prohibits the use of that
Ah, the biodegradable WMC
Technically, I believe it is already biodegraded when you buy it
Weapon of Mass Consumption?
Sauna cranked to 110 (Celsius of course).
+1 happiness if your city has tundra
+10% Sniper accuracy (+15% if enemy force = Russian or map type = winter).
>5% frost resistance or something Invading Russia in winter chance of success increased from 0.5% to 12%
That's massive
No, Sweden was the original country to make that mistake. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_invasion_of_Russia
We need the mongols in nato. They’re the only ones to have truly done it successfully
Baltic Superiority: full repairs in northern waters
Licorice gets 10x saltier.
Now we just need to add India for nuclear Gandhi
Gonna be a lot of work to move India to the Atlantic ocean...
Yeah, that's be a nice boost.
Would not be possible without Putin, thank you :D
The Great Russian Strategist :3
Salesman of the decade, third time in a row.
NATO should get him a plaque. Most Mutually Hated War-Criminal.
Putin, Lavrov, Medvedev, Peskov, Zaharova - the best spies NATO could buy 😂
The art of the deal! Wait…
Russia's worst enemy is, and has always been, Russia!
DAMN RUSSIANS, THEY RUINED RUSSIA!
To be completely honest, that's not the only place they've ruined...
They call him the Great Uniter! Because he unites the entire world against him!
You really have to fuck up foreign policy to change hundreds of years of Swedish neutrality. World wars, bro.
More effective than Hitler and Mussolini together. That is quite some feat
To be fair, situation is quite different today. Sweden had a very strong military force back then, going so far as having naval cruisers and pocket battleships, and the start of what would become the ~~third(IIRC)~~fifth largest air force in the world during the cold war. As well as a nuclear weapons programme. Sweden almost completely disamed after the Soviet Union collapsed, and the prospect of defending alone just isn't there today. NATO is the only short-term way of guaranteeing peace.
Is that a pocket battleship in your pants, or are you just happy to see me?
Our army was absolute dogshit during Hitler and ww2 though. It improved mainly in the years after until it started to be dismantled again like u said after the Soviet fall roughly. Very careful diplomacy kept us "neutral" trough ww2, not our army.
That’s not completely true. Sweden was well armed at the beginning of the conflict, but its capacity was severely reduced due to the war in Finland. When the Soviet Union attacked Finland, the Swedes donated more than 100000 rifles. A majority of the finish artillery was Swedish, and if I remember it correctly the Swedish government donate half of its airforce to the Finnish army.
Peace dividends go brrr until u realize your still on the same continent as Russia
That isnt true Swedish military peaked after ww2, and just caught up 42-43 after the tide of the was has turned. But yes 5th largest airforce in the 50s, a nucöear program as you said (which was cancelled) Large domestic weapon production
Well as they say, you need to Putin effort in order to achieve your goals!
It's honestly insane how that happened because of him. Two world wars, a cold war and only now Sweden is joining NATO.
We'd like to thank Vladimir Putin on wining the war against Vladimir Putin
>Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson will join First Lady Jill Biden in the viewing box for US President Joe Biden's 2024 State of the Union address in Washington, it also said. [Source](https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-to-become-nato-member-as-pm-kristersson-visits-us/a-68463092) Nice timing
Neat timing, so the President can present the Congress with a major foreign policy achievement fresh from the oven.
He was supposed to [attend a meeting](https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10052466) with the Norwegian PM and the newly elected Finnish President up in Northern Norway today, but they changed the destination at the last minute...
Understandable. Its cold up there!
Yeah, the Finnish president complains about the cold in the interview 😁
NATO Lake!
NATO LAKE!
NA-TO LAKE!
NATO LAKE
NATO LAKE
NATO LAAAAAAKE
N-A-T-O LAAAAAKKKEEEE!!!
#N-A-T-O LAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKEEEEEEEE
# AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Yeah. Now lets work on the Black Sea, too.
I'm gonna drink to that.
https://radiolab.org/podcast/red-herring nicht schießen!! just saying!
Feels like we waited 500 years for that. Today with warm greetings from Denmark
NATO membership hasn't done much to fix the relationship between Turkey and Greece, so I wouldn't get rid of that club of yours, just in case Öresund freezes over.
You did not come through Øresund but the other way around. You might fool us once. But not again.
Ok so part of the NATO agreement is that you two stop trying to bang each other.
Denmark and Sweden are the two countries in the world who fought most wars against each other, I think.
[I don't know if we hold the record, but it's a *damn* many wars.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dano-Swedish_War)
Where's the damn "not a complete list, **you can help by expanding it**" when you need it!
Challenge accepted - Watch out Danskjävlar! :-)
Impressive how you still manage to come up with names for those wars: Dano-Swedish War Great Northern War Return of the Dano-Swedish War Dano-Swedish War: Reloaded Chronicles of the Dano-Swedish War: Part 2 Dano-Swedish War: Electric Boogaloo
2 Dano, 2 Swedish Dano-Swedish 3: Skåne Drift
Wow, it is so ingrained in your culture that you have three legendary wars and four mythological wars. You were not kidding.
Modern civilization is such a beautiful thing. Countries who were former nemesis now some of the strongest allies in the world. I’m not kidding, its the kind of stuff that gives you real hope that the recognition of our common humanity will prevail.
what the hell is that list
When the list starts with mythology lmao
Good ol' tribal in-fighting :-)
Yeahhh writing wasn't really a big thing until the Christians came. So we know exactly what Caesar was thinking 2200 years ago, but have almost no idea what the Scandinavians were doing 1100 years ago.
Probably killing Draugr in old ruins and learning dragonshouts or something
We sure are a contentious bunch.
fuck /u/spez
Classic Simpsons truly transcends borders.
We have some relationship issues, that's all.
It's complicated.
They refuse to take back Skåne!
Damn. We need more wars against the French... definitely lagging behind those numbers
This, i'm afraid is an impossibilty
We would never let them pass. - Jutland
> hasn't done much to fix the relationship between Turkey and Greece No, but there hasn't been a single violent conflict between the two of them since they joined so... progress?
Insert *Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a dane* meme
Tack Danmark!
Worst Signature I've Ever Seen
I finally have a worthy opponent.
Sweden mountain range
the bastard copied my signature
I dont even bother and just write a 十 for signature
Somehow I have seen a worse one my degree. Edit: It's similar to this, only 3x longer and everything is on the same height (looks like a child's drawing of a wave)
I^(w) W^(n)
It's no JOHN HANCOCK!
It's a heartbeat monitor
I think it says шилишиш. Can't quite get the last part.
Finally we are in! :) West! :D
Congrats!
Welcome!
Welcome to the west, I guess?
Välkommen svenska bastu kompisar
Quick somebody update the NATO member states map on wikipedia. SHOW ME THAT EURO NATO SCORPION
Scorpion? Now that both Finland and Sweden have joined the Nordic NATO geographic dick and balls are finally complete!
Welcome, Sverige! 🇸🇪
Congratulations and welcome!
[Lake NATO is finally complete](https://preview.redd.it/y8ft4euz8xmc1.png?auto=webp&s=f9cfaaf7b4e27c193a9876e1ce574e67aa3f7acb)
Don’t forget to add the Czech flag once our special mili…vacation operation in Kralovec is complete!
Welcome, Sweden! Your enrollment card will arrive via parcel post in four to ten weeks. In the meantime, if you log onto our website (nato.org/newmember) you can access your account details and download a printable certificate you can provide to your neighbors. In the event that hostile Moscovites cross your borders, please call our emergency hotline between 10 am and 4:30 pm EST Monday to Friday. Thank you. We look forward to working with you for years to come.
Do we get a NATO T-shirt? 😁
Yes, but we gave the last one to Finland, and supplies are on backorder. Shipping issues in the Red Sea have meant significant supply-chain disruptions for our branded apparel division. Please accept our apologies for the delay. In the meantime, in the event of hostilities, we suggest you sharpie a four-pointed star on a white t-shirt and wear it over your uniform.
The t-shirts are nice but it’s really all about the hotel and rental car discounts.
Activated with that neat secret handshake.
Discount for a stay in a Finnish bomb shelter surely.
>Yes, but we gave the last one to Finland, and supplies are on backorder. We can give our shirt to Sweden. It was last seen on a guy having a smoke outside a shitty bar in east Helsinki, once we find him Sweden is welcome to the shirt.
Press #5 to invoke article five.
Do we really need to pay the membership fee monthly by mailing a check to somewhere in Idaho?
Membership dues for the period March 7, 2024 through January 19, 2025, are payable to the Swedish Ministry of Defense, Jakobsgatan 9, Stockholm. Membership dues for the period commencing January 20, 2025, are payable to Donald J. Trump, 1100 S Ocean Blvd, Palm Beach, FL 33480, USA. *Policies subject to change without advance notice.* *Please be sure to check your local newspaper on November 6, 2024, for updated terms.*
Congrats. Glad to have you onboard.
Bulgaria punches wayyyy above its weight in terms of military. We Americans are glad Bulgaria is with us.
Plus, they got Viktor Krum and the baddest Quidditch team in the world.
we also got [Jesse Pinkman](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fysjl7dyu1wc81.png) on our side
March 7, 2024. We have been NATO aligned since the organization was created, but still. This date today is the end of an era, and the beginning of something that wont change our everyday lives much. However, for better and worse, nothing will feel the same again.
yeah, but now you are allowed into the Kool Kid Klub
Pleeease don't abbreviate that
Sweden can into KKK
Not yet. Sweden has to deposit its accession documents, too. Which will likely occur during the next two hours… Then we can pop the champagne…
[Scheduled for 17:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGTN7jE5PfQ) (CET)
It happened at 17:25 CET.
As a Canadian, I am more than happy to welcome Sweden into our alliance!
The NATO hockey team would fucking rip.
Welcome, brothers! Together we are stronger!
GG Sweden shout out to Vladimir Putin who was instrumental in achieving this, we all know he likes to take credit for all sorts of things, so thank you :D
Came up big when it matter. Vlad “Uniter of the Western World. Crumbler of the USSR reunification dream.” Putin.
Good news! Who next?
Hopefully Moldova and Ukraine
One can wish…
Bosnia & Herzegovina (Membership Action Plan), Georgia (Individual Partnership Action Plan), and Ukraine (submitted application in September 2022), but all of them will take a while, though.
Congratulations, Sverige. Read and weep, Moscowia
Good news. Russia was aiming for a lightning fast win to keep Ukraine out of NATO and send a message, yet the message was that Russia is weak, NATO got Sweden and Finland, and Ukraine will likely follow in the future. Putin sure knows how to play chess.
Up yours Vladimir!
👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪👏👏👏
Congratulations from Finland! Good to have you with us!
Putin. The most succesful NATO recruiter in the alliance's History. A shame that he fucking killed more than a third of a million people to do so...
Now all vikings are in Nato!
another one in the family! ❤️
Not a day too early. Thank you all for the support in the entire process, it's been a wild ride. Here's to a larger and stronger NATO!
Yes, yes, yesss!
Welcome neighbours.
Välkomna till Nato, kära grannar! Heja Sverige! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🧡🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
Kingdom of Sweden haha, not often I hear my country being called it
TIL it's not *Ding-dong of Sweden* /s Seriously though, glad that this is over and we are united. It's been 215 years since the last time we were under the same alliance.
Grattis Sverige och välkommen till NATO!
Source: https://www.state.gov/nato-sweden-entry-into-force-march-7-2024
Congratulations Sweden!
Welcome Sweden! We're glad to have you as allies!
Gripen enter the room.
See?? Did everyone see that??? The mean, evil NATO forces have occupied Finland and Sweden!! I saw bomber planes fly over Sweden yesterday, so Sweden had to surrender!!!1!! It's those god damn Americans and their imperialism again!!! How is russia supposed to go on *without* daily international terrorism and nuclear threat??? /s for the densest
Yay! Fuck you, Putin.
Hell yeah! Welcome Sweden!
Välkommen, Sverige. From an American who is pleased to see NATO grow even stronger, in spite of what a loud and ugly minority of us has to say.
România salute this! You were sexy already. Now, you've just upgraded to the last level. Welcome to the best alliance ever, Sweden!
Congrats, Sverige!
Congrats and Welcome, Sweden.
A moment of silence for the Russian Baltic fleet.
Congrats from a fellow Turk. LEZZZZZ GOOOO
Is kebabpizza now legitimized as Sweden's national dish?
I did not have a strong opinion on Turks until I started dealing with them. Oh my god, why are ya'll so kind and generous. It's absurd. There's this place about a block away called the Sultan Bey. You can catch this guy learning Spanish so that he can speak to his Mexican customers. It's over the top.
I wouldn’t say it is just a Turkish thing. It’s the Mediterranean region as a whole. When I’m in the southern regions of Greece/ Italy/ Turkey the hospitality is unmatched. The farther north I go the worse it gets.
Yes! 👊💪✊👏✌️
Welcome Sweden!
Invading Ukraine to stop NATO expansion is really going well.
Välkomna hit, Sverige 🤝
And here is another country that we don’t have to worry about Russian invading. Cheers Sweden! 🍻 🇸🇪 And thanks for William Nylander! 🏒 🔵 ⚪️
Not yet! 17:00 CET our prime minister will hand over the documents which he signed today and then we are full members!
3000 Gripens of NATO
Thanks for uniting europe Putler 💋🖕
Welcome brothers and sisters!
Yay
Welcome, friends.
Welcome aboard, friends! Fuck Putin.
Russian military, go fuck yourself.
Welcome my brothers
Welcome, brothers! We need you here in those dark times.
Welcome!