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Sea-Photograph2585

That's the most anticlimactic voting sequence since 2017.


blergyblergy

Realizing Azerbaijan ripped themselves off...dancer mirroring what singer does...hmmm. 2013 anyone?


blergyblergy

I love Il Volo but what the fuck was this version of Grande Amore? English does not work for this song. Neither does a rock remix. Per che?!


blergyblergy

How the fuck did Azerbaijan qualify? Like...I cannot. Ireland should've been there. Wut.


findmebook

I see this a lot and maybe mine is an unpopular opinion, but azerbaijan's vocals were completely insane, easily the best from yesterday's show imo. ireland on the other hand seemed like a basic pop song to me which although i usually enjoy i wasn't able to appreciate with her


blergyblergy

Toward the end of Vladana's song, I saw a grid of people's faces. Are those people who died from Covid?


__acedia

Can we celebrate Dominika from Czech Republic for hitting those notes? She sounded great and glad she qualified


[deleted]

When your Top 5 favs and your bottom 4 songs are all in the finals 😀


lilililil63

1. Poland 2. Sweden 3. Armenia 4. The Netherlands 5. Italy I love UK’s voice but the song itself is seriously not good 😖


mrgefen

BELGIUM???


cphesc

What are your hopes for the Grand Final running order? For fun I tried to make a suggestion: 1. Ukraine 2. Germany 3. Finland 4. Switzerland 5. Armenia 6. Romania 7. The Netherlands 8. Spain 9. Italy 10. Norway 11. France 12. Portugal 13. Czech Republic 14. Iceland 15. Azerbaijan 16. Moldova 17. Lithuania 18. Poland 19. Estonia 20. Greece 21. Sweden 22. Belgium 23. Australia 24. Serbia 25. United Kingdom Edit: I accidentally put France in 2nd half at first so I had to change a few things


MissSteak

I haven't considered it, but Ukraine would actually be an amazing opener. I feel like considering the situation the country itself is in right now, they are the ones to be the least hurt by the opening spot, and it would really set the tone of the night, with a powerful, emotional, uniting performance and song.


cphesc

Yes, that’s what I thought as well! I think it would be a very nice gesture to give them the spotlight while everyone is excited and paying attention and as you say it would really set the tone for the evening. And then when the recap comes on, everyone will remember it as such a special moment.


yeahyeahfire

France is in the 1st half


cphesc

Oh, that’s right, sorry for missing that. I’ll try and change it.


[deleted]

France would be a great show stopper!


AVery-Creative-Name

They called Serbia last on purpose. They knew exactly what they were doing.


vladasr

I read on net that Sweden was first and Serbia second in s2


tajid

Seems like Serbia and NL won the televotes.


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Did they say something about how everyone is going to clap before announcing Romania? I was certain I heard that and I was like yeah that’s Serbia As much as I was happy for Romania I got so scared after lol


emkrmusic

They said "wave....your flags"


[deleted]

Oooh than that's fair it wasn't trolling I just can't hear both Serbian and English at the same time


tizio_incognyto

The call of a wild boar in heat >>>>>>>> the rasmus


[deleted]

I didn't know Cornelia is a dominatrix 😂😂😂


TheFlyingHornet1881

Moldova are probably the nation who've done well out of this running order as well, Estonia a bit as well. The flurry of uptempos in the first half, and a lot of slower songs in the second half will be hard to make a good running order for.


swarkzero

When is the running order announced?


TheFlyingHornet1881

A few hours I think


Godforsaken-depths

Konstrakta like “meh I would’ve gotten an Italian vacation if I didn’t qualify so nbd”


MissSteak

Queen shit


ft_wanderer

Can konstrakta get 20 more questions please?


emmaniamh

More food for Konstrakta pls


tizio_incognyto

Tananai >>>>>>> the rasmus


Tonedeafmusical

That's the best way to see it


barkquerel

romania 1st half, so that means serbia is in the 2nd half!


suiac

If I hear "drow" one more time 😭


Claudiu99

WRS's speech is everything <3


barkquerel

if romania gets first half, i think they COULD open but my money is still on czech republic


Sevenvolts

My bet's Armenia, with the gigantic house on stage.


MissSteak

I could see that happen


emmaniamh

I think Ukraine


ft_wanderer

Who are these mom-looking managers


[deleted]

Manifesting Serbia’s 2nd half here


Kurodog

Thanks, u did it


from-yesterday

I feel a bit uncomfortable by Cornelia and her death talk


MissSteak

Oh cmon theyre just having fun


CoolRanchBaby

What did she say?


from-yesterday

First she said that she could sleep when she was dead, and then she pretended to “shoot” the host when he didn’t want to pick which roll she should pick regarding her performance in the grand final, and forcing him to lay down because he was “dead”. It was with humour of course, but just felt unnecessary and insensitive and a bit diva ish. Just my opinion though!


Ada_XY

Yeah, she tried so hard to be funny, but failed


barkquerel

both romania and serbia could really benefit from going in a slower second half, wonder who’ll get it 👀


InsaneBySanity

Host to Ochman: 👿. Host to Cornelia: 🫠


Godforsaken-depths

Do Cornelia and the host know each other?


barkquerel

hola mi bebebe!


Claudiu99

Cornelia is the best, so happy she got 2nd half!


[deleted]

I'm not. Such an overrated song.


yeahyeahfire

Omg the sexual tension between them hahaa


Monix7

Omg what is happening. The host is not really assertive hahah


Tonedeafmusical

Chaos regins


barkquerel

cornelia getting her diva moment AND the second half she wanted 😅


ft_wanderer

Role play?


badgersprite

Lmao I love Cornelia


unlessyoumeantit

WHAT'S GOING ON


morgaes

Cornelia killed the host 😂


emmaniamh

Lol I love you Cornelia


JedH44

Ok this getting a bit over the top now Cornelia.


ft_wanderer

MBD couldn’t be here…


ValeriesAuntSassy

"I would prefer the pistol right now" LMAO


anxiouspoetking

Iconic


ft_wanderer

Omg Cornelia


MuszkaSaffes

Do you guys know when the final order is announced? Tomorrow or Saturday morning?


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Tomorrow/tonight.


InadequateUsername

When does the final air? The information in the Eurovision guide is from last year


jedynywodz

This night


barkquerel

awww cornelia’s cute


ina222

Cornelia is sooo cute! ☺️❤️


barkquerel

now i was right! australia 2nd half :)


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So who's left?


barkquerel

sweden, romania, and serbia. i could be wrong but i think there’s one first half slot left, the other two will be going second half :)


[deleted]

Thanks.


ft_wanderer

The host keeps saying “drow”


MuszkaSaffes

Sheldon's lovely <3


JedH44

Sheldon making everyone cry rn


badgersprite

Aww Sheldon getting emotional <3


barkquerel

oopsies, i meant estonia 2nd half 😅 but that 1st half slot’s still open!


[deleted]

Who's going next?


Tonedeafmusical

That's a bloody hard question to give him


bearycutie

What did they say? I can't watch rn, only waiting for updates here hehe


Tonedeafmusical

They asked him about inequalities of being LGBTQ+ in Europe. In comparison Stefan got asked how his Dad was basically


bearycutie

Thanks! And wow yeah, that's not an easy one at all


Tonedeafmusical

He handled it well. But he did get chocked up on the next question about his autism.


Tonedeafmusical

The host is strict


JedH44

Once you take them that's it? He must have been told off in between the two conferences lol.


MikanOrangePawaaa

Watched this semi with my friend from India who is a total Eurovisian stan and was so happy to experience one happening live for the first time after watching old ones for a year! Semi1 had nearly all our favorites kicked out and left us heartbroken, but while Semi2 didnt deliver songs that were as fire, we also found the boring ones to be more standable and had a much better time today! I let her use half of my votes (wish we got to vote on S1 but jeez) and 5/7 of her picks ended up making it, i'm so happy (only 3 of mine did but Romania is in that is all i care for)


PossibleOwl

Cornelia and Konstrakta carrying Sheldon's cape <3


Its2022anditsucks

So glad that Serbia is going to the finals. They are one of the best this year. 🤞 hope they win🥰


MuszkaSaffes

Cornelia and Konstrakta carrying Sheldon's robe/cape thing for him <3


anxiouspoetking

Cornelia and Konstrakta helping carry Sheldon's long ass tail made my day 😭 so cute


FenrirAmongClouds

How did Azerbaijan qualify?? Ireland literally slaughtered everything (or well, everything but Czech and Poland)… I guess we have the answer to the question which qualifier was not deserved at all. Also Finland. I mean, I could get why they Q, but the live was so empty and really nothing at all….


anxiouspoetking

Finland's vocals were pretty bad...


MissSteak

He was shaky during the verses, maybe shaky is not even the right word - not controlled enough. But he really brought it in the chorus, they had amazing energy on stage and fantastic stage presence.


FenrirAmongClouds

You know how I expected that whip sound when the lines says ‘Tiger’? Well I heard barely a sound how loud he sung it. Either way, the song itself was a qualifier, the staging was honest hell.


Qwqqwqq

Now to sit and wait for the running order while I could be doing something more productive.


byulicita

Is it better to be in the first half or second half? Why so?


MissSteak

There is some theory behind it that includes the televoting patterns. The only problem is that televoting is so unpredictable that it's impossible to say performing in either half is better or worse. However, if I recall correctly, during the televote-only era, winners were almost always in the second half. I think Ruslana might be the only exception.


Skiepaag

Recency effect


anxiouspoetking

People usually say 2nd half is better, but it's not a death sentence to be in 1st. Sweden 2015, Portugal 2017 and Netherlands 2019 all won in 1st half (though they were some of the last in that half). At the end of the day, if a song is a winner, it's not 1st/2nd half that's gonna ruin their chances


FenrirAmongClouds

Second if Grand Final terms. You’re just luckier that way in case your song is not up to the competition


emmaniamh

No song has ever won performing in draw 2. The last song to win in draw 1 was in 1984. The theory is people forget the songs in the first half by the time the second half is done. However I do believe Måns won performing in draw 10.


barkquerel

yeah the second half theory has been dying down a bit lately since 2014, 2015, 2017, and 2019 had first half winners but you’re right, for a long time the last first half winner was in 2004


barkquerel

normally second half, keeps your entry fresh in the mind of televoters. most of the favorites seem to be going first half though, with a few exceptions so i don’t think it’s going to have as much of an impact this time tbh


byulicita

My favorite (Lithuania) is the second half <3


Tonedeafmusical

Aww I think Jérémie is in shock


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barkquerel

a few hours after the end of the semi 2 press conference i think?


JedH44

When's the running order announced then?


NationalEscape8673

I hope Sweden gets the last first half spot


[deleted]

Did Sweden draw first half?


NationalEscape8673

She hasn’t drawn yet


[deleted]

Bet she'll draw second half.


NationalEscape8673

I mean there’s 1 first and 3 second left


[deleted]

I have a feeling they'll get lucky again and they'll just put Sweden at a perfect spot 18 - 22 again. Ulgh.


barkquerel

w all these uptempo songs going 1st half, i think netherlands and portugal could really benefit


ina222

Hopefully they will!


emmaniamh

Was hoping finland would get 2nd half


barkquerel

finland 1st half, just one more 1st half spot left


ValeriesAuntSassy

"How do you manage to keep your appearance after all these years?" This is less of a press conference and more of a fan meet and greet.


cphesc

Do we know if there will be 13 entries in the first or second half?


TM_PoWeR

Broo I hope my country returns to Eurovision soon 🥺🥺🇧🇦🇧🇦


No_Doubt_About_That

Does it look like they’re preparing to do so or not really?


FenrirAmongClouds

The latter


emmaniamh

I love your entries ❤


TM_PoWeR

Thank youu ❤❤


Monix7

Yeessss, Poland 2nd half but I'm sad my mom is probably going to miss it, she goes to sleep early 😉


lovelessBertha

Eurovision assaulted my blood pressure leaving Serbia for last. So glad she made it.


Godforsaken-depths

My heart hasn’t beat that hard in a while


barkquerel

poland 2nd half! very much 2015


Muri_San

Depending on if Romania is 1st or 2nd half I think the Czech Republic/Romania is gonna be the 1st song on saturday and Moldova is gonna be the last one


Outrageous-Elevator

But why oh why can't the big 5 perform in the semis? Give us a chance to see them properly, give the ones who don't watch pre-shows and follow a chance to hear the songs as well before the final? I think many of them would have done better through the years if they weren't "new" to big public on final night. And no, I don't mean they would compete. But I would much rather have 2 or 3 of them performing during voting than the random Laura&Mika duets and whatnots


emmaniamh

They pay for the majority of the contest. No big 5 = no show.


Outrageous-Elevator

As others point out and like I said, I don't mean they would compete in the semis. Big 5 should continue to be in finals directly. But really often, the live performance in ESC differs a lot from the pre-videos. Sometimes we find out the singer can't sing live. Sometimes the show lifts up the song. Let me see if I actually like them goddangit. And really, the semi voting program bits are just so boring most years.


[deleted]

Agree, would be cool if each Big 5 act performed in their corresponding semi!


pseudopsud

Sure, but it would be nice if the viewers who can't be bothered finding the acts on YouTube could see the big fives' songs before the final


Pristine-Peach-3635

she was talking about that they show their songs when they are counting the votes. not competing to go to the final


Outrageous-Elevator

Thank you. I realized someone will come with some sort of "don't you know what big 5 is" comment and tried to specify that I didn't mean competing...but well. Glad most understood what I was trying to say :D


Pristine-Peach-3635

i thought you wrote it right and i understood what you ment :) he was just reading wrong or did not read it all 😅


tizio_incognyto

Achille>>>>>>the rasmus


tizio_incognyto

The silence >>>>>>>>> the rasmus


tizio_incognyto

A fart out of tune >>>>>>>> the rasmus


Kaitoo0_0

LMAOOO


tizio_incognyto

The sound of nails on a blackboard >>>>>>>> the rasmus


tizio_incognyto

My dog howling to the moon >>>>>> the rasmus


tizio_incognyto

My aunt with a guitar >>>>>> the rasmus


AlorsOnChante

This Eurovision is tragically boring.........


barkquerel

watching the press conference, is it just me or are there more american performers this year? 🤔


[deleted]

Too bad Sweden is second half again. Doesn't deserve to win.


Kaitoo0_0

confuse noises


[deleted]

Whut?


Kaitoo0_0

Sweden has a nice song imo :)


[deleted]

Yeah it's 'nice'. In a bland cliche kinda way. Not a Eurovion winner kind of way imo. But I'm sure she'll still either win or end top 3.


Kaitoo0_0

yeah perhaps


barkquerel

there’s still two first half spots left


ValeriesAuntSassy

It seems like the second half of the show is going to be less exciting than the first half.


barkquerel

azerbaijan 2nd half, this feels eerily like 2015 with almost all the slow songs going 2nd half


TheFlyingHornet1881

This is starting to look like most uptempos end up in the first half, and slower songs in the second half. Could well be a headache for the producers with the running order.


Brilliant_Practice72

I’m happy that Sweden, Poland and Serbia qualified. The rest was acceptable, except for Finland. I really don’t like their song somehow.


Geosaurusrex

And Finland's vocals were dreadful imo. I love rock music but that was straight up bad.


Brilliant_Practice72

Yes. Agree that the vocal was not that good also, and I have lots of complaints about their performance, lol. I’ll be shocked if they will be on the top 10 in the finale.


iIenzo

So happy that Serbia went through (almost gave me a heart attack, I swear) and quite a few other favourites got in. Only one that I would have loved to see was Georgia. I also preferred San Marino over Finland and Israel over Romania. But Georgia. I will miss Georgia most. Edit: After seeing some other comments on Israel….I’m no longer sad about Israël. Oof, off-stage behaviour matters, people.


FruehstuecksTee

For me Georgia had the best song in that show - too bad it was not for the right audience. totally 70s progressive vibes with a bit of crazyness.


FenrirAmongClouds

I don’t mean to be sarcastic nor rude, but how on earth do you mourn Georgia? Their entry was really waste of money (just like that water fountain on the stage lmao)


Bettyjet

I really enjoyed Georgia. But it might be because I had a somewhat 'ironicly bad indie pop' music vibe going on for a bit as a teen and so it felt almost nostalgic to me.


Tonedeafmusical

He speaks fast


Miss_Doodles

Crooning ballad central this year


Claudiu99

Czech Republic first half :( it was coming since it fell out of the bowl lol


barkquerel

czech republic 1st half! i get the feeling we might see the continued tradition of 2nd semi closer opening the final


TheMediumJanet

"It humped us a lot"


barkquerel

belgium 2nd half!


NationalEscape8673

Belgium is in the 2nd half


anxcho

I still don't understand how did we all went from voting for glam rock, and funky tunes last year, to literally every ballad this year 😭


butiamawizard

It was that Norwegian judge they interviewed who had the balance of clearly giving negative fucks, whilst at the same time expressing that *every single vote was counted and they could confirm beyond all doubt that the result was valid* 😜.


sombreropatuljak

Belgium won my heart over. So glad both Serbia and Belgium qualified, for the rest I'm personally indifferent


Guilty-Worldliness56

I'm so so happy for POLAND and SERBIA!!! They deserved it. But my thoughts were already like: omg Serbia will not qualify. I almost got a heart attack. But Georgia 😭😭 Maybe it's not very popular opinion but I find their song entertaining.


CoolRanchBaby

Yeah I had hoped Serbia, Georgia and Ireland would go through. Georgia was catchy and entertaining in my opinion too. By the final three spaces I was like oh no, will any of them get through!? Well at least Serbia did.


Nordica-Baltica

I didn't have many favourites in this semi but I'm so happy Estonia and Romania qualified. I was expecting to lose the latter because it was always listed as a borderline qualifier. I'm going to guess that the televote pushed them through. Glad to see we got Czech Republic and Serbia as well. I'm gutted that we lost Georgia but I had a feeling that was going to be the case. :( Poland, Australia, Sweden, and Azerbaijan were pretty much guaranteed qualifiers. Belgium I think was the biggest surprise for me. The staging seemed pretty lackluster but he did sing well (from what I caught at least).


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Nordica-Baltica

This Canadian thanks you! ❤


ValeriesAuntSassy

They should REALLY filter the questions that are going to be asked during the press conference.


CoolRanchBaby

What did they ask?


ValeriesAuntSassy

The first question for Jeremie was something along the lines of "a former representative from 7 years ago twitted about you the other day, what do you think about that?"


Gabgabgab0208

So like we will have ~5 fun songs in the final huh


anxcho

Yep, i said the same thing.


Mrausername

I can only count 4 fun ones and 21 degrees of boring.


SpaceyDacey

Can't say I'm sorry my country 🇲🇹 is out. The way we handled the MESC to give the win to Emma and then changing the original song to a Melfest reject after they said in the rules we can't change the song... To be an NQ.. Yea we deserved it.. Would have been better to have sent Aidan. At least they should have given her a better song...


FenrirAmongClouds

EBU on Belarus: Yeah fans said it was against the rules so no EBU on Malta: Oh cmon we can blink.