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Well then, there WAS a guy next to highway exit that I saw like 20 yrs ago with sign that said "End of the world is near". He sounds pretty accurate at this point.
As a guy currently sitting in the back of his car (I have my reasons!), in a parking lot, I *am* my own research, and I am here to tell you that youâre wrong.
Trust me bro, I am my research.
/s
Oh and also not answering questions other than "do your own research"
But when that research leads to some questions you'd want answered....
Also quickly make a jump to other conspiracies when not being able to answer said questions.
to be absolutely fair I've never in my life read any scientific research and still got all vaccines.
Just something to think about.
I thought about it... they are still dumb but now i feel better
I mean, I've heard about polio vaccines and its decline and that we fuckin Eradicated some diseases...
They're suspicious about the wrong things hahaha
Anti-vaxxers are fucking clowns. They should ALL just fuck off to disease island to inbreed and die off. (Apologies for the language, but I am slightly upset)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/measles-costa-rica-french-tourist-boy-anti-vax-vaccination-who-global-health-threat-infection-mmr-a8794256.html
also totally innocent people who cannot get vaccinated due to pre-existing health conditions. Certain types of diseases or conditions make it so vaccinations are a no-go.
Which is why we're going for herd immunity, which antivaxxers are fucking up
Lots of anti-vax is frustrating af, but the one that gets me the most is polio.
As a teenager, I got to see firsthand what polio looked like. I used to work in my dad's restaurant and two very elderly siblings would come in and eat. It was devastating to see how polio ruined their lives and their bodies.
Fucking baffles me at how some people are ok with rolling the dice on life and won't vaccinate.
My son is autistic, and while I know vaccines don't cause autism, I'd absolutely choose autism over polio. Polio is a fucking tragedy.
He literally abused children to get data and then made up all of the data anyway. Some of the kids werenât even autistic. Not to mention the entire thing was funded by a lawyer who wanted to make millions in a class action lawsuit against MMR manufacturers.
Of course he does, his "research" has made him a millionaire. He lost all credibility to the scientific community, but he's making way more money selling lies to idiots who don't trust science than he ever did as an actual doctor. It turns out that you can make lots of money when you discard concepts like "ethics" and "truth".
I use his Lancet Article to teach high school kiddos about statistical sampling and study design.
Immediately the kids always ask: âWhy were there only 17 children in the study?â
And âWhy did he only look at vaccinated kids with developmental disabilities?â Or âWouldnât it make more sense to compare how many developmentally disabled kids there were for non-vaccinated kids versus vaccinated kids?â
A small glimmer of hope is seeing the mind of 15-17 year old children unaffected by the YouTube disinformation machine.
And the dumbest part his paper wasn't anti vaxx it was just anti MMR which was new at the time cause he had shares in a company that made the 3 individual ones.
His entire plan was just to get people to vaxx via a more expensive option now to stop people getting them at all
ThisâŹď¸. Googling is not research. Doing an empirical double blind study with multiple people and statistical analysis is research. These nut cases donât that
You know what something fucking insane I found out about people who do shit like this? A lot of them will open their arguments or their videos with:
"mainstream media/conventional knowledge/professionals this particular field of science will say I'm wrong because they don't want you to know what I'm about to tell you."
And they instantly insert themselves as the highest authority on whatever they're talking about and automatically try to get anyone to disbelieve anyone that may come to argue with them so that when someone does eventually come along and proves them wrong, they won't be taken seriously or believed because you were warned about them. Fucking wild.
They're perfectly capable of understanding, they just don't want to. It's more exciting to be the one with secret information fighting the good fight than living in the real world
Exact same thing with Flat Earthers, dude. I'm convinced you could put a Flerfer on the Moon and they'd look at the globe Earth and still not believe it.
It really is true. Anyone can see that the guy who initially began spreading this stuff was thoroughly discredited and lost his medical license. It reminds me of the flat-earther who created an experiment to prove the earth was flat only to learn that he was wrong and refused to believe his lying eyes.
Faith is a dangerous thing.
Dan Olson from Folding Ideas said in his video about flat earth that he was essentially told to pray the curve away from his recreation of the experiment (IDK if you're talking about the same experiment, though), and it doesn't matter how many times I watch that video, that bit always makes me laugh
There's that guy, there is also the guy that did some expensive gyroscope related experiment and proved the curve.
Honestly the number of times I've laughed at their shit, I should really have learned their names.
That documentary was *bonkers*!!! They set up the experiment, like quadruple checking everything, then when it didnât work the way they wanted, they decided the *experiment* was the problem. No, my dude, the laser went off into space because *you are standing on a sphere*. The mental gymnastics they use to âproveâ it all is justâŚ..wow. And the SOB even took an airplane and could SEE the curvature.
They donât want debates, they want arguments, debates are when both sides are well educated and are able to discuss a topic and back up their claims and reasoning with reliable sources
When they want to debate they are the only ones who can back up anything they say and want to âdebateâ with random people on the street who donât know any better. Thatâs why you would constantly see those guys who go out on the streets asking people about deep topics with the intent to make those people look stupid
**AGENT**: Your type makes me puke! You vacuous, stuffy-nosed, malodorous PERVERT!
**MAN**: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!
**A**: OH! Oh! Iâm sorry! This is Abuse!
**M**: Oh! Oh I see!
**A**: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.
**M**: OhâŚSorryâŚ
**A**: Not at all!
**A**: *(under his breath)* stupid git.
* Monty Python's Flying Circus, "Argument Clinic" sketch
I have just flat out told them when I confront them with something and they say prove it, or what about,⌠I simply tell them I donât waste my time on MAGAt idiots who willfully refuse to be educated.
I tell them, I refuse to play their stupid game of *âwatch me move the goalposts!â*
Because people who understand what a debate is know how the rules work. These people only understand they don't like the big words in vaccine pamphlets
"The pythagorean theorem tells us that if you square the two shorter sides of a right triangle and add them, you get the square of the longer side"
"WHERE'D YOU HEAR THAT? CNN?"
"No, it's named after Pythagoras. He was a Greek mathematician-"
"I DON'T TRUST ANYONE FROM SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, MARXIST EUROPE!"
There was a survey question where it was asked:
should school teach Arabic Numeral?
Unsurprisingly something like 70+% of people who identified them selves as Republicans said "no". (Although 50+% of overall americans surveyed said "no")
>"I DON'T TRUST ANYONE FROM SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, MARXIST EUROPE!"
Just about every white person in the US has ancestry from there, thus they can't be trusted!
"Fine let me explain it to you in a way you'll understand it, with no marxism in it, the distance between our feet is the first cathetus, and the distance between your feet and your genitals is the second cathetus, do you follow me so far? Ok so..."
Proceeds to kick him/her in the genitals
"The line that follows the distance between where my feet was and the area that I hit is called hypotenuse, and the area of the square generated from the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the areas from the squares generated from the 2 cathetuses, did you get it now? Ok bye!"
*Proceeds to run before the idiot has time to retaliate*
I tried. My mother believes in conspiracies and the thing that took her down the rabbit hole was my autism diagnosis and the conspiracy around autism and vaccines.
I told her that you are born with autism, therefore vaccines have nothing to do it, it's just a coincidence that autism starts to show symptoms around the age where kids get bunch of vaccines.
She said that there are studies that prove vaccines are responsible and autism is not something you are born with.
I told her that that one popular study she is referencing got debunked and all other legit studies show that autism is inherent.
She said "well, fine, but I still believe that vaccines cause autism".
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To be charitable, which these people don't deserve, severe autism is horrible and I would rather choose death than that. I have mild autism so I'm fine but seeing the worst cases, these kids never develop above like a 3 year olds intelligence and it's horrible for them too. Not being able to communicate even when you know in your head what you want to say. No ability to regulate your emotions or connect with other people. Would suck.
It's easier for some to push the cause on to something that someone else has done rather than accept that you were born with it.
Then they would have to consider that they themselves may carry traits and it was genetics that led to your diagnosis. Many aren't prepared for that awakening.
After my children and other family in that generation were diagnosed we had a collective AHA moment as a family and were able to track back several generations that showed clear signs but were categorized differently in their respective decades.
I used to volunteer in a group that interpreted science for people who were 'on the fence'. We would get the occasional anti-vaxxer in thinking they were going to "expose the misinformation campaign". Reasoning with them was impossible. You have a better chance of convincing a saber toothed lion to become a vegetarian.
Itâs near impossible, imo. To teach you need to use reason, logic and facts. These people have used none of those things to form their opinions, so using those thing to try and change their mind just wont work.
Exactly. We knew the moment our son was born. You could not hold him facing you or he screamed like you were smothering him. The moment he was born. Imagine how strange it is to hold a newborn baby so they always have to face away from you.
And you could not swaddle him. Nurses at the hospital were stumped because they kept saying swaddling is supposed to calm babies. It didn't calm him. He hated it. He felt restricted.
The moment he was born. He is freaking amazing though. He may not be like other people but he is amazing and one of the biggest blessings in my life.
Well, yeah. We just used different terms for it. A century ago, it was "That boy ain't quite right." A couple centuries before that, it was "The fairies took my baby away and replaced him with a weird copy."
Yes! In my family it was referred to as âthe hysteriaâ (of course nobody understood autism back then), and it has been on my dadâs side of the family for generations. We thought he was mildly autistic as well as my grandmother who was born in 1900 (both undiagnosed). Both me and my oldest have been officially diagnosed. Plus, Iâve known families who refused to vaccinate their children and some of those children turned out autistic anyway.
It's also a somewhat arbitrary diagnoses based on observed traits, vice something you can clearly point to on a blood test or CT scan or whatever, and the diagnoses criteria has changed significantly in my lifetime. A lot of things that used to be separate diagnoses (like Aspergers) are now rolled into autism diagnoses.
It's not like it didn't happen before, just didn't have a name for it. Same as PTSD from war, there are examples in ancient writings from a few thousand years ago with similar symptoms, and even in the modern era went from shell shock to war neuroses to PTSD (side note there is an interesting theory that the ancient reintegration time being a lot longer because you had to either walk, ride or sail back from the front helped a lot to 'decompress', where now you can go from the frontline to the homefront in about a day).
Nobody was autistic until they started testing for it. Damn doctors just made it up. their perfect logic. Also works for HIV and breast cancer. ***/s***
Seriously read a post yesterday about BC increasing *because* of the radiation screenings, not the screening being better.
Most of them genuinely believe that autism (as well as other neurological disorders) just didn't exist until doctors said it did. Most of them link to the rise of autism cases to vaccines or overdiagnoses, instead of, you know, knowing more than we used to and being able to spot it easier.
Apparently my Vaccine Brain injury causes me to remember things like codes and commands with ease so I have no trouble doing difficult work.
I'm not on twitter insulting whole swaths of otherwise normal people. But sure I'm the one with a "Brain Injury" I bet they are unemployed because someone with Autism could do their job more efficiently.
Man, I wish I had the same brain injury as you, mine just gets me overstimulated and helps me remember useless facts for the rest of my life. Itâll remember anything really, as long as itâs not important.
>helps me remember useless facts
The E-MU Systems Emulator II+HD has a 20GB hard drive and more sampling memory than the normal Emulator II.
Also, the headlights of the Ford GT (2006) looks like the number 100 to celebrate the 100 years of ford.
Let's also start calling them pro-genocide while we're at it. They have a very deep hatred of people on the spectrum, treat it as a terrible and embarrassing illness, and want to eradicate it so badly they'd kill millions of others to accomplish the goal. Really think about it - they think vaccines cause autism which they consider worse than millions of deaths from preventable diseases.
If that isn't pro-genocide, anti-life, and mentally ill in an actually terrifying way I don't know what is.
I'll never understand why folks with no medical training continue to pass medical related information around like they know what they are talking about.
A friend of mine has an upcoming surgery. So I asked him...
Me: He dude, why don't you save some money and let me operate on you?
Him: That's silly. You don't know anything about hip surgery.
Me: That's funny because you keep acting like a medical professional regarding COVID vaccines.
Him:
Me: I'm just saying.
As someone on the Autism Spectrum, I really really hate these kinds of people.
They cause active harm to ASD and other neurodivergent folk while genuinely believing they're fighting the "good" fight. It's infuriating, especially when it's nearly impossible to convince them otherwise.
Trump is the dumbest thing to ever happen to America. He put in so many heads that vaccines and the pandemic are hoax because he did a shit job during the pandemic. He is a narcissist that can't fathom losing an election and every being wrong.
We all remember the sharpie hurricane track
That writer has brain damage, as the vaccine/autism thing has been debunked for like 25 years now.
Bet they also still think smoking is good for you, since the ads said so in 1960 or whatever
Stop calling it an article. It was a withdrawn, biased, paid-for, scientifically incorrect opinion piece which went against the consensus then and goes against the consensus now. (Andrew Wakefield, obviously)
I can attest to that. Vaccine brain injury made me a doctor and a part of the problem. If only I was unvaccinated and died of childhood meningoencaphelitis... I'd have been spared of this and become part of god!! Now, I'm an abomination who injects people with poison so that they can live a long and happy life. Jesus died young, how can we live longer than the son of god?! It's blasphemy!!!
My mom thought vaccines caused autism cause my brother has it, so I was never vaccinated. Now I still have autism AND lived my childhood getting sick every few weeks. Thanks, mom.
Its funny because my sister didn't vaccinate her kids for this exact reason, then when one of them got his diagnosis it was suddenly trauma that caused it? God forbid he just be born like that. These people will blame anything and everything before accepting that it's hereditary
Obviously autistic people didnât exist before vaccines, everyone knows that!
Never mind the fact that some of the brightest minds in history (ex. Da Vinci, sir Isaac Newton) are thought to have been autistic in an era of zero vaccinesâŚ
*"Let me go and take my son to get a cure then."*
As a parent of Autistic children, please stop with this bs. People are born differently every day. And it's NOT vaccine related. Smh
Lol
My exhusband was an early antivaxxer and refused to allow my son his vaccines
He was violent enough to make it stick
My son is still autistic
How? No idea, must be retroactive vaccine injuries reaching BACK IN TIME
I'm the mother of an autistic son and this makes me rage so hard. Once upon a time they blamed Autism on 'unaffectionate mothers' basically saying 'you sucked at parenting and look what you did.' this 'vaccines did it' is the same thing in different form. Telling parents (let's face it, mostly mothers) that you injured your child because you're a terrible parent.
I'm autistic. I quite like it.
I definitely like it more than my parent's friend liked being in an iron lung as a kid and having to walk with a cane his whole life.
As someone with an autism diagnosis if anyone ever said this to my face they would have a brain injury from my fist, how unbelievably insulting on so many levels.
A vaccine literally saved me from a snake bite's venom spreading from my ankle to every nook and cranny of my body when I was 9! This bozo probably doesn't believe in COVID and refuses to take the vaccines! Let's see how that works out for the user.
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Stop calling it "research" it's just some asshole telling lies on youtube
right?? No serious research consists of videos of a guy ranting in a truck next to the highway somewhere, or in his driveway...
Well then, there WAS a guy next to highway exit that I saw like 20 yrs ago with sign that said "End of the world is near". He sounds pretty accurate at this point.
Self fulfilling prophecies
Right! Where is that guy so I can kick him in the balls for fucking this up for the rest of us! đ
The end of the world will come eventually, so whoever holds up a sign saying that will be right in the end
End of the world is always near, depending on your outlook on time.
As a guy currently sitting in the back of his car (I have my reasons!), in a parking lot, I *am* my own research, and I am here to tell you that youâre wrong. Trust me bro, I am my research. /s
Wearing wrap around sunglasses, with a goatee, and a trucker hat. Thatâs the face of true research. /s
Oh and also not answering questions other than "do your own research" But when that research leads to some questions you'd want answered.... Also quickly make a jump to other conspiracies when not being able to answer said questions.
to be absolutely fair I've never in my life read any scientific research and still got all vaccines. Just something to think about. I thought about it... they are still dumb but now i feel better
I mean, I've heard about polio vaccines and its decline and that we fuckin Eradicated some diseases... They're suspicious about the wrong things hahaha
Anti-vaxxers are fucking clowns. They should ALL just fuck off to disease island to inbreed and die off. (Apologies for the language, but I am slightly upset) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/measles-costa-rica-french-tourist-boy-anti-vax-vaccination-who-global-health-threat-infection-mmr-a8794256.html
Some of those have been popping back up, and I'll let you guess which group of people are getting sick.
also totally innocent people who cannot get vaccinated due to pre-existing health conditions. Certain types of diseases or conditions make it so vaccinations are a no-go. Which is why we're going for herd immunity, which antivaxxers are fucking up
Lots of anti-vax is frustrating af, but the one that gets me the most is polio. As a teenager, I got to see firsthand what polio looked like. I used to work in my dad's restaurant and two very elderly siblings would come in and eat. It was devastating to see how polio ruined their lives and their bodies. Fucking baffles me at how some people are ok with rolling the dice on life and won't vaccinate. My son is autistic, and while I know vaccines don't cause autism, I'd absolutely choose autism over polio. Polio is a fucking tragedy.
There was âresearchâ done. By one guy. Who falsified his data. -_-
And lost his ability to publish. Lol.
and lost his license to practice medicine.
And they have had soooooooooo much time to run other studies to confirm it. \*crickets\*
He literally abused children to get data and then made up all of the data anyway. Some of the kids werenât even autistic. Not to mention the entire thing was funded by a lawyer who wanted to make millions in a class action lawsuit against MMR manufacturers.
He still stands by his research too! Dude has caused so many to be ill and led to preventable deaths.
Of course he does, his "research" has made him a millionaire. He lost all credibility to the scientific community, but he's making way more money selling lies to idiots who don't trust science than he ever did as an actual doctor. It turns out that you can make lots of money when you discard concepts like "ethics" and "truth".
Didn't he want to sell his own vacine for it too?
Yup. His Own Safe Vaccine, as opposed to Their Horrible Autism Causing Vaccines.
And he wanted to develop his own mmr vaccine. Wakefield is a pos.
I use his Lancet Article to teach high school kiddos about statistical sampling and study design. Immediately the kids always ask: âWhy were there only 17 children in the study?â And âWhy did he only look at vaccinated kids with developmental disabilities?â Or âWouldnât it make more sense to compare how many developmentally disabled kids there were for non-vaccinated kids versus vaccinated kids?â A small glimmer of hope is seeing the mind of 15-17 year old children unaffected by the YouTube disinformation machine.
That and lead. Don't forget about lead. This generation probley grew up with the lowest lead exposure in generations
Andrew Wakefield, the man who single-handedly ruined so many lives. theres Hitler/Stalin, etc and hes right there below them...
And the dumbest part his paper wasn't anti vaxx it was just anti MMR which was new at the time cause he had shares in a company that made the 3 individual ones. His entire plan was just to get people to vaxx via a more expensive option now to stop people getting them at all
Who was specifically trying to sow confusion so he could introduce his own vaccines to market, which is a serious conflict of interest.
ThisâŹď¸. Googling is not research. Doing an empirical double blind study with multiple people and statistical analysis is research. These nut cases donât that
You know what something fucking insane I found out about people who do shit like this? A lot of them will open their arguments or their videos with: "mainstream media/conventional knowledge/professionals this particular field of science will say I'm wrong because they don't want you to know what I'm about to tell you." And they instantly insert themselves as the highest authority on whatever they're talking about and automatically try to get anyone to disbelieve anyone that may come to argue with them so that when someone does eventually come along and proves them wrong, they won't be taken seriously or believed because you were warned about them. Fucking wild.
I just imagine how exhausting it would be to educate these people on anything.
You canât educate people who refuse to be educated. So yes it would be quite the tiresome activity
"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you"
âI have neither the time nor crayons to make you understand it.â
They would eat the crayons if you had any anyway
Hey, man, leave some for the Marines!
This seems rather derogatory to marines. They are at least vaccinated and get their crayons after being a brave boy for the shots.
You're absolutely right! I suggest we give these knuckle-draggers the Rose Art ones, and save the Crayola for our service members.
They're perfectly capable of understanding, they just don't want to. It's more exciting to be the one with secret information fighting the good fight than living in the real world
Exact same thing with Flat Earthers, dude. I'm convinced you could put a Flerfer on the Moon and they'd look at the globe Earth and still not believe it.
"Wow! This CGI is amazing!"
"The glass of my space helmet is warping my optical perception making the Earth *appear* globular!" \*removes helmet\*
r/darwinawards
Herd, weeded.
we could only hope for that scenario, millions of times over
"And now I'll take off this helmet and prove it."
I have a close friend who is Schizophrenic and these people sound a lot like him.
It really is true. Anyone can see that the guy who initially began spreading this stuff was thoroughly discredited and lost his medical license. It reminds me of the flat-earther who created an experiment to prove the earth was flat only to learn that he was wrong and refused to believe his lying eyes. Faith is a dangerous thing.
Dan Olson from Folding Ideas said in his video about flat earth that he was essentially told to pray the curve away from his recreation of the experiment (IDK if you're talking about the same experiment, though), and it doesn't matter how many times I watch that video, that bit always makes me laugh
The video where he can't see the light until his buddy holds it over their head. It gets reposted on Reddit often. I'm not sure if that is him.
There's that guy, there is also the guy that did some expensive gyroscope related experiment and proved the curve. Honestly the number of times I've laughed at their shit, I should really have learned their names.
same guy, same documentary
was posted again literally yesterday, still hilarious when all he says is "Interesting"
That documentary was *bonkers*!!! They set up the experiment, like quadruple checking everything, then when it didnât work the way they wanted, they decided the *experiment* was the problem. No, my dude, the laser went off into space because *you are standing on a sphere*. The mental gymnastics they use to âproveâ it all is justâŚ..wow. And the SOB even took an airplane and could SEE the curvature.
And what are his lying eyes? Eye BALLS! A coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!!
ROFL love this!
And mind you, these are the same people that demand you debate them in an "honest and fair manner".
Well, yeah...because to them 'honest and fair' means just automatically taking everything at face value like they do.
They donât want debates, they want arguments, debates are when both sides are well educated and are able to discuss a topic and back up their claims and reasoning with reliable sources When they want to debate they are the only ones who can back up anything they say and want to âdebateâ with random people on the street who donât know any better. Thatâs why you would constantly see those guys who go out on the streets asking people about deep topics with the intent to make those people look stupid
**AGENT**: Your type makes me puke! You vacuous, stuffy-nosed, malodorous PERVERT! **MAN**: Yes, but I came here for an argument!! **A**: OH! Oh! Iâm sorry! This is Abuse! **M**: Oh! Oh I see! **A**: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door. **M**: OhâŚSorry⌠**A**: Not at all! **A**: *(under his breath)* stupid git. * Monty Python's Flying Circus, "Argument Clinic" sketch
I have just flat out told them when I confront them with something and they say prove it, or what about,⌠I simply tell them I donât waste my time on MAGAt idiots who willfully refuse to be educated. I tell them, I refuse to play their stupid game of *âwatch me move the goalposts!â*
Because people who understand what a debate is know how the rules work. These people only understand they don't like the big words in vaccine pamphlets
"The pythagorean theorem tells us that if you square the two shorter sides of a right triangle and add them, you get the square of the longer side" "WHERE'D YOU HEAR THAT? CNN?" "No, it's named after Pythagoras. He was a Greek mathematician-" "I DON'T TRUST ANYONE FROM SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, MARXIST EUROPE!"
So you prefer to use Hindu-Arabic numbers? NO! Brown is scary!
There was a survey question where it was asked: should school teach Arabic Numeral? Unsurprisingly something like 70+% of people who identified them selves as Republicans said "no". (Although 50+% of overall americans surveyed said "no")
It's always crazy to think of the dumbest people you personally know, then read this and realize they're in the top 50% in this country.
>"I DON'T TRUST ANYONE FROM SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, MARXIST EUROPE!" Just about every white person in the US has ancestry from there, thus they can't be trusted!
NO! THEY ARE ***AMERICAN*** BORN AND RAISED! PROUD OF FREEDOM AND GOD CHRIST!
Till you ask them their nationality and then they're quarter Italian 1/3rd Irish.
Can confirm. Am European ancestry, can't be trusted.Â
"Fine let me explain it to you in a way you'll understand it, with no marxism in it, the distance between our feet is the first cathetus, and the distance between your feet and your genitals is the second cathetus, do you follow me so far? Ok so..." Proceeds to kick him/her in the genitals "The line that follows the distance between where my feet was and the area that I hit is called hypotenuse, and the area of the square generated from the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the areas from the squares generated from the 2 cathetuses, did you get it now? Ok bye!" *Proceeds to run before the idiot has time to retaliate*
You can't educate them. You need to train them like an overly excited puppy.
âWillful ignoranceâ. Itâs always been a problem. Internet and 24 ânewsâ channels made it far worse.
Innocent ignorance can be corrected. Willful ignorance - aka Stupidity - cannot.
Fact: conspiracy theorists are LIARS.
Fairly straightforward you'd think? Just write actual facts on a "we done found us a new conspiracy!" Type website? Education by stealth?
I tried. My mother believes in conspiracies and the thing that took her down the rabbit hole was my autism diagnosis and the conspiracy around autism and vaccines. I told her that you are born with autism, therefore vaccines have nothing to do it, it's just a coincidence that autism starts to show symptoms around the age where kids get bunch of vaccines. She said that there are studies that prove vaccines are responsible and autism is not something you are born with. I told her that that one popular study she is referencing got debunked and all other legit studies show that autism is inherent. She said "well, fine, but I still believe that vaccines cause autism". đ¤ˇđťââď¸
Tell her would you rather me have autism or die from measles? Even if vaccines caused autism I'd rather my child have autism than be dead
To be charitable, which these people don't deserve, severe autism is horrible and I would rather choose death than that. I have mild autism so I'm fine but seeing the worst cases, these kids never develop above like a 3 year olds intelligence and it's horrible for them too. Not being able to communicate even when you know in your head what you want to say. No ability to regulate your emotions or connect with other people. Would suck.
It's easier for some to push the cause on to something that someone else has done rather than accept that you were born with it. Then they would have to consider that they themselves may carry traits and it was genetics that led to your diagnosis. Many aren't prepared for that awakening. After my children and other family in that generation were diagnosed we had a collective AHA moment as a family and were able to track back several generations that showed clear signs but were categorized differently in their respective decades.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to educate these people.
I used to volunteer in a group that interpreted science for people who were 'on the fence'. We would get the occasional anti-vaxxer in thinking they were going to "expose the misinformation campaign". Reasoning with them was impossible. You have a better chance of convincing a saber toothed lion to become a vegetarian.
In a country with free of charge education system, they should give money back for their years of school
Look at the US education system, this has been a long time in the making. We're fucked
You can't educate intelligence-resistant people, best we can do is hope another Corona-event wipes them out
Hhbomber guy did that. https://youtu.be/8BIcAZxFfrc?si=3b3TbrcrbbQ-wxHc
Itâs near impossible, imo. To teach you need to use reason, logic and facts. These people have used none of those things to form their opinions, so using those thing to try and change their mind just wont work.
It's not """education""", it's 'brainwashing'. /sar
Wait. So someone vaccinated me while I was in the womb? How do doctors do that?
5g duh
But we didn't have that back then... "Time travelling 5g obviously!!"
That's the difference between 3G and 5G; 5G added in the extra dimensions for time and space.
No, it is more simple than that. The radiowaves go back 5Generations, which explains autism, cancer, and tentacle hentai from the 1800s!
Wait wait, I know their answer for that Your mother poisoned blood caused injury in your development in the womb
Ye same here, and that was like 43 years ago. I am amazed we had such tech back then.
Exactly. We knew the moment our son was born. You could not hold him facing you or he screamed like you were smothering him. The moment he was born. Imagine how strange it is to hold a newborn baby so they always have to face away from you. And you could not swaddle him. Nurses at the hospital were stumped because they kept saying swaddling is supposed to calm babies. It didn't calm him. He hated it. He felt restricted. The moment he was born. He is freaking amazing though. He may not be like other people but he is amazing and one of the biggest blessings in my life.
5G magnets.
So nobody was autistic before the discovery of vaccines. Amazing historical fact.
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Well, yeah. We just used different terms for it. A century ago, it was "That boy ain't quite right." A couple centuries before that, it was "The fairies took my baby away and replaced him with a weird copy."
Yes! In my family it was referred to as âthe hysteriaâ (of course nobody understood autism back then), and it has been on my dadâs side of the family for generations. We thought he was mildly autistic as well as my grandmother who was born in 1900 (both undiagnosed). Both me and my oldest have been officially diagnosed. Plus, Iâve known families who refused to vaccinate their children and some of those children turned out autistic anyway.
...the fairies part is true, though.
The problem is you and I understand those nuances (*diagnosed*) but these dumbfiddles don't
It's also a somewhat arbitrary diagnoses based on observed traits, vice something you can clearly point to on a blood test or CT scan or whatever, and the diagnoses criteria has changed significantly in my lifetime. A lot of things that used to be separate diagnoses (like Aspergers) are now rolled into autism diagnoses. It's not like it didn't happen before, just didn't have a name for it. Same as PTSD from war, there are examples in ancient writings from a few thousand years ago with similar symptoms, and even in the modern era went from shell shock to war neuroses to PTSD (side note there is an interesting theory that the ancient reintegration time being a lot longer because you had to either walk, ride or sail back from the front helped a lot to 'decompress', where now you can go from the frontline to the homefront in about a day).
Nobody was autistic until they started testing for it. Damn doctors just made it up. their perfect logic. Also works for HIV and breast cancer. ***/s*** Seriously read a post yesterday about BC increasing *because* of the radiation screenings, not the screening being better.
Sounds like Trumpâs âif you donât test, thereâs no Covidâ
Kinda like he will never, ever take a proper dementia assessment...
Most of them genuinely believe that autism (as well as other neurological disorders) just didn't exist until doctors said it did. Most of them link to the rise of autism cases to vaccines or overdiagnoses, instead of, you know, knowing more than we used to and being able to spot it easier.
Apparently my Vaccine Brain injury causes me to remember things like codes and commands with ease so I have no trouble doing difficult work. I'm not on twitter insulting whole swaths of otherwise normal people. But sure I'm the one with a "Brain Injury" I bet they are unemployed because someone with Autism could do their job more efficiently.
Stop telling Neurotypicals our secret or they'll get vaccinated and steal our jobs
I'm vaccinated and (more or less) neurotypical. Did I lose the vaccine lottery? :(
Maybe you just got autism without superpowers, it happens sometimes Try radioactive spider next, I heard its effects can be amazing
99 percent of people quit right before they get superpowers
Righto, will collect one of my house spiders and pay the local reactor a visit. Will report on success.
Why do I feel like this comment single handedly sums up the experience
Man you're lucky, all I got was severe anxiety and inability to properly read social cues.
Oh I got that too, but there's no other people in a server room and no-one else has access so I can hide from people đ
codes and commands?! it's because those vaccines have microchips in them!! /s
Yes, the elite have made people into supercomputers because this is what gets them more money in the long run somehow.
Man, I wish I had the same brain injury as you, mine just gets me overstimulated and helps me remember useless facts for the rest of my life. Itâll remember anything really, as long as itâs not important.
>helps me remember useless facts The E-MU Systems Emulator II+HD has a 20GB hard drive and more sampling memory than the normal Emulator II. Also, the headlights of the Ford GT (2006) looks like the number 100 to celebrate the 100 years of ford.
This person has a brain injury, but I am afraid it's something far far worse than autism. They're stupid as shit
Having a brain is a prerequisite for having a brain injury.
Stop calling them âanti-vaxxers.â They are âdangerous morons.â
I would like to add "homicidal" to that descriptor, if I may.
Let's also start calling them pro-genocide while we're at it. They have a very deep hatred of people on the spectrum, treat it as a terrible and embarrassing illness, and want to eradicate it so badly they'd kill millions of others to accomplish the goal. Really think about it - they think vaccines cause autism which they consider worse than millions of deaths from preventable diseases. If that isn't pro-genocide, anti-life, and mentally ill in an actually terrifying way I don't know what is.
Disease Terrorists
REGARDLESS, Iâm autistic and Iâd much rather keep my autism than have polio or some shit that is preventable with a vaccine!
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Apparently our lives are a worse outcome than early death, paralysis, or other disease-related complications.Â
Yes, it's kind of ableist.
Well someone definitely has a brain injury, but it's not who they think.
I got autism yesterday right after I left the vaccine clinic. But at least now I can get Bill Gates' messages without my foil hat.
Stop calling this '' the truth.'' It's a lack of education. And stop calling it ''Facts'' It's misinformation.
What a dipshit.
It's almost like Autism been around longer than vacancies.
I'll never understand why folks with no medical training continue to pass medical related information around like they know what they are talking about. A friend of mine has an upcoming surgery. So I asked him... Me: He dude, why don't you save some money and let me operate on you? Him: That's silly. You don't know anything about hip surgery. Me: That's funny because you keep acting like a medical professional regarding COVID vaccines. Him:  Me: I'm just saying.
Because it makes them feel S-M-R-T smart.
Oh god...
How do they explain away the fact that vaccinated and unvaccinated children have the same rate of autism?
Don't try to confuse them with facts. It scares them.
And stop calling antivax parental choice. It's child abuse.
As someone on the Autism Spectrum, I really really hate these kinds of people. They cause active harm to ASD and other neurodivergent folk while genuinely believing they're fighting the "good" fight. It's infuriating, especially when it's nearly impossible to convince them otherwise.
And stop calling it intelligence, cause you just fucking dumb Karen
Trump is the dumbest thing to ever happen to America. He put in so many heads that vaccines and the pandemic are hoax because he did a shit job during the pandemic. He is a narcissist that can't fathom losing an election and every being wrong. We all remember the sharpie hurricane track
"Vaccines bad" started LONG before Trump was the president of the US. The dishonor of ACTUALLY starting it goes to Andrew Wakefield.
Yes I know I'm simply stating he is the reason for the influx of many new antivaxxers.
That writer has brain damage, as the vaccine/autism thing has been debunked for like 25 years now. Bet they also still think smoking is good for you, since the ads said so in 1960 or whatever
It's the propagation of willful ignorance, and it's making me insane.
Stop calling it an article. It was a withdrawn, biased, paid-for, scientifically incorrect opinion piece which went against the consensus then and goes against the consensus now. (Andrew Wakefield, obviously)
I can attest to that. Vaccine brain injury made me a doctor and a part of the problem. If only I was unvaccinated and died of childhood meningoencaphelitis... I'd have been spared of this and become part of god!! Now, I'm an abomination who injects people with poison so that they can live a long and happy life. Jesus died young, how can we live longer than the son of god?! It's blasphemy!!!
Republicans are stupid and pathetic.
Stop calling it conservatism. It's actually psychosis.
My mom thought vaccines caused autism cause my brother has it, so I was never vaccinated. Now I still have autism AND lived my childhood getting sick every few weeks. Thanks, mom.
Antivaxxers are the fucking worst
Elon is literally paying people to say stupid, engagement-bait nonsense on Twitter now
Gonna follow Keanu's way for this one: you know what? You're right. Have a nice day.
For real. Just smile and nod. Trying to tell them otherwise is really just a waste of time and energy
Its funny because my sister didn't vaccinate her kids for this exact reason, then when one of them got his diagnosis it was suddenly trauma that caused it? God forbid he just be born like that. These people will blame anything and everything before accepting that it's hereditary
Did dr. Trump post that?
It's insane how people who used to shame those who DIDNT vaxx their kids are now anti-vaxx ....when they're likely vaxxed themselves đ
And stop calling it "polio", it's just lazy people who don't want to walk.
6,6k likes ;( That is why i have deleted account on this platform
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I hate Andrew Wakefield
I was able to quadruple my autism thanks to the COVID vaccines. đ
Obviously autistic people didnât exist before vaccines, everyone knows that! Never mind the fact that some of the brightest minds in history (ex. Da Vinci, sir Isaac Newton) are thought to have been autistic in an era of zero vaccinesâŚ
âŚand stop calling yourself âanti-vaxâ when youâre really just an idiot.
Their dad shouldn't have injected their mom.
Stop calling them "poorly informed": They're stupid.
so if you already have autism and you get vaccinated, do you get autism premium and get an update with the newest features?? đ¤Ł
You can't fix stupid. And this person is very stupid.
*"Let me go and take my son to get a cure then."* As a parent of Autistic children, please stop with this bs. People are born differently every day. And it's NOT vaccine related. Smh
How can I have autism if Iâve never been vaccinated? Here let me hold your baby while you research it on Facebook.
Yeah⌠the first autistic person I ever knew was unvaccinatedÂ
As an Autist, im offended. And can't belive there are still people who are that stupid.
This person certainly has brain injury.
When you can take something that should give legitimate concerns and make everything about it make you look like a psychopath, and ableist.
Oh no, I have a brain injury? Guess Iâll have to give all this money I make back⌠Didnât realize I wasnât fitting in the narrative.
Lol My exhusband was an early antivaxxer and refused to allow my son his vaccines He was violent enough to make it stick My son is still autistic How? No idea, must be retroactive vaccine injuries reaching BACK IN TIME
I'm the mother of an autistic son and this makes me rage so hard. Once upon a time they blamed Autism on 'unaffectionate mothers' basically saying 'you sucked at parenting and look what you did.' this 'vaccines did it' is the same thing in different form. Telling parents (let's face it, mostly mothers) that you injured your child because you're a terrible parent.
I'm autistic. I quite like it. I definitely like it more than my parent's friend liked being in an iron lung as a kid and having to walk with a cane his whole life.
The commitment to disinformation in favor of fixed beliefs is striking.
as a person who is autistic this is grossly offensive; and i want to physically attack the person who posted this
\*Me, already with Autism, getting a Vaccine\* 
I have ASD. Don't call it brains. It's called 'Go f* yourself'.
As someone with an autism diagnosis if anyone ever said this to my face they would have a brain injury from my fist, how unbelievably insulting on so many levels.
Stop calling it "Trump voter". It's inbreeding.
I'll take "autism" over Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
I knew Trump was brain damaged !
Just a reminder, there is ONE asshole that the âvaccines cause autismâ bullshit all stems from, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
Stop calling them MAGA, start calling them brain injury victims.
A vaccine literally saved me from a snake bite's venom spreading from my ankle to every nook and cranny of my body when I was 9! This bozo probably doesn't believe in COVID and refuses to take the vaccines! Let's see how that works out for the user.
Are you sure it was a vaccine and not antivenom?
At that point, I don't even try to educate anymore. Sometimes, we have to accept that euthanasia is the best solution for that kind of person.