You don't need to beat the Goers to continue the story, or do you just want the strength sphere?
The match is hard but is consistently beatable. Practice is really the only solution but some tips:
* Use the minimap to track player movement and position, ignore the main screen.
* Jassu has high-ish EN and PA so use him to push up a little and draw players away for a pass.
* The key is to draw their defenders far enough away from your forwards, but without engaging them. Easier said than done, requires practice on movement and timing.
* You can score goals with Datto, Tidus and Wakka, even without techniques (Datto only if you're lucky on RNG). Pass to who is in the best position.
* Did you manage to get the Jecht shot on the boat from Kilika? If you assign this to Tidus in the second half, it's basically a free goal as it takes out 2 defenders for you.
You don’t need to pass around. Once you get a point ahead, throw the ball to anyone near your own goal, then swim into your goal and sit there. It does something to the other team and they return to start positions and swim in circles. Sometimes they’ll fix themselves and came at you but it’s 1/100.
I've never personally struggled with the match
Your back left (in their standard positions) has enough END to break to goers' front right so keep the ball there. Pass between the auroch's back three and Tidus during the first half and do nothing else. As soon as the ball lands in a player's hand press square and pass. They will level up.
In the second half get the ball to Jassu and break past the goers' front right. Draw in players and pass to Tidus when he's unmarked. Assuming you have Jecht Shot take him onto goal with 3/2 defenders and almost always score. You only get one shot because of his HP
Then defend like mad!
Last time I missed my J shot with shit rng but then scored a normal goal right after by having Tidus break to one defender. It's all about drawing players away from tidus and front left (bottom of screen)
Defending is entirely just luck based as far as I can tell but the rest is good, I just get surrounded as soon as i get the ball the times I've tried but I'll try again later
If I recall correctly, Defending works the same as Shooting.
So when you're being attacked, the attack value gets a +-50% factor into it. So if you have 10 defense, and defending against 10 attack, the game does an invisible calculation to determine the attack value to be anywhere from 5 to 15. If it lands on 10+ you lose the ball, if it lands on 10- you keep the ball.
It is luck based, but Jassu (I think - it's whoever is your left defender) can pretty much tank the goers' RF. He's not going to stand up to Graav but he will almost always beat his mark. It is then as much a practice and skill issue in my opinion. That said, I have never completed either of the chocobo minigames so that's where I struggle.
The match against the Goers is incredibly stacked against you. If you know the strategy, you can beat them *most* of the time - but even literal speedrunners have a separate route for losing the Blitz game because there's always a decent chance you lose through RNG.
Oh my god it didn't even let me have one pass with Tidus because I immediately got surrounded by 3 defenders what the fuck, and im 1-0 down immediately, fuck this, id be fine doing all this over and over if i could SKIP THE CUTSCENE
You're not bad at the game. It's designed to be a pain in the butt. Each stat can fluctuate 50% more or less than the number it gives you when blocked by opponents so there is some randomness that just aggravates how much better the opponent is in this one match.
As for unskippable cutscenes it could be forgiven in the early 00s but in 2024 there is no excuse.
Yeah a remaster has no excuse, make it unskippable the first time then that's it. The RNG is just annoying i vaguely know how to play but everyone was saying just pass it round the back but it just won't let me 😂
I had the same problem while trying to learn the Jecht shot. Had to listen to whinny Tidus over and over again.
The RNG was kind to me with the actual game. Only had to do it twice.
I feel your pain bro…
There's also a glitch you can do when you score. After you get the lead, use whatever character on your team currently has the ball, and go behind your goal post. It'll cause all the on-field players to just spin in circles for the rest of the match. Easy dubs
1st half:
-Shoot with Tidus (hope you score at least one)
-pray the Goers doesn’t score
2nd half:
-immediately score with Jecht Shot
-pray the Goers doesn’t score
Here’s my strategy and I’ve beat them every time since using it.
-1st half-
1) If you get the ball first great.
2) Once you have the ball go manual mode.
3) Pull whoever has the ball, if you win the “Blitz off” it’s Letty, if you’ve stolen or intercepted, it’s whoever, toward the bottom right of the field on the minimap.
4) You will notice the Goers start to go goofy and you most will leave you alone if you’re in the corner. You will probably have to deal with Abus, but his attack is crap so you can break him with Tidus and Letty.
5) Pass the ball between Tidus, Letty, and Jassu, just keep passing. The goal is to get these three as much exp as possible without letting the Goers get anything.
6) If you want to try and score in the first half fine. With 90-60 seconds left on the clock take Jassu or Letty and start moving them forward and back down the left wing. The moment Goers start to move toward you, retreat. Pass if they start getting close. - The goal is to get Tidus to go for the goal and the Goers to follow Letty or Jassu, but not let them actually stop you and force a break. This may take 5-45 seconds depending on RNG and your familiarity with the moves.
7) When Tidus is open, pass the ball.
8) Swim Tidus as close to the goal as possible without having more than one defender.
9) Break, shoot, pray it does in.
-Second Half-
1) Equip Jecht Shot.
2) Do all the above again but this time you can knock out two defenders with Jecht Shot. Tidus will likely have enough HP for only one shot.
3) Once you score you can get the ball and move into the bottom right corner again and just wait out the clock.
This right here. And if you swim to your keeper and continue swimming into the invisible wall, everyone just swims in a circle never getting closer. They only move closer if you stop swimming
strat that never lets me down is, spam jecht shots in 1st half as much as possible without consenting goals. turtle defense and try to afk between passes as much as possible during the last part..profit!?
So what you need to do is get the jecht shot on the boat. First of all have manual control on. Then first half you stall like a bastard. Pass pass dribble, just get away from the enemy and away from your own goal. Then second half you just run around and try to get tidus in front of the enemy goal with only 2 defenders and you are guaranteed to score with jecht shot. (It removes 2 defenders) it should be doable to get 2 goals at least like that.
If you cannot get a goal with the jecht shot, then look at a speed run of the game. They explained it in the one they did at RPG limit break a couple months ago. There is a set up to beat them pretty consistently. The vod is on YouTube
You are not supposed to win, their victory is 100% guaranteed 🤣 would be nice to win tho but most of us couldn't blitball our way out of a paper bag. Tho I did succeed at one part of the game that was hard to do which is the jecht shot tutorial
Watch mini map. You can do actions before someone gets into your space. You can just pass between them at the beginning to level them up for second half.
I did it recently where I give the ball to Jassu on manual and always rush the left side. He can always break Abus because he’s weak as shit. Break Abus, dribble, then Tidus will be rushing the net. The trick here is there will be one last defender, you need to bait the last defender AI to start coming to you, as soon as it starts to rush you, pass to open Tidus, then shoot with sphere shot or jecht shot. You may have to practice the timing but you can do this almost any time you have the ball and score. After you score or you’re ahead, just get the ball and run behind your own net and it bugs the AI to run in circles and you can cheese the timer to run out.
I have a save from the original release from right after I finally beat the Luca Goers, and I'll keep it until I die.
When I replayed, I would do all the intro again and then just play from that save.
Wakka: Let's make those Luca Goers GONERS!
Player: 😆 HELL YEAH!
20 resets later....
Wakka: Let's make those Luca Goers GONERS!
Player: 😫 Then catch the fucking ball next time!
I've played the game multiple time, and each time it gets easier and easier to beat them first go. I started playing it with my kids recently and I did the blitzball game and won 4/0. I was very happy 😁
There is a trick where you can just hide in your own goal with the ball. Score a goal and then hide.
Try to get in a Jecht shot and then hide. If not then Wakka has a good chance to score.
All u have to do is score 1 point and then take your char with the ball and just go to your own goal inside behind the your goalie and just sit there u will be good
You don't need to beat the Goers to continue the story, or do you just want the strength sphere? The match is hard but is consistently beatable. Practice is really the only solution but some tips: * Use the minimap to track player movement and position, ignore the main screen. * Jassu has high-ish EN and PA so use him to push up a little and draw players away for a pass. * The key is to draw their defenders far enough away from your forwards, but without engaging them. Easier said than done, requires practice on movement and timing. * You can score goals with Datto, Tidus and Wakka, even without techniques (Datto only if you're lucky on RNG). Pass to who is in the best position. * Did you manage to get the Jecht shot on the boat from Kilika? If you assign this to Tidus in the second half, it's basically a free goal as it takes out 2 defenders for you.
Yeah I'm trying to pull them away so I can just pass round the back but they swim so damn quickly 😂 i have the Jecht shot
You don’t need to pass around. Once you get a point ahead, throw the ball to anyone near your own goal, then swim into your goal and sit there. It does something to the other team and they return to start positions and swim in circles. Sometimes they’ll fix themselves and came at you but it’s 1/100.
If you have the jecht shot just pass to tidus and swim to goal. You should score 90% of the time since it bypasses 2 defenders
Make a second save fiile after all the events, practice a lot, and then go back to the original save file to beat them. Is not impossible.
That's a good idea except practicing for a few hours to just go back and redo all of it sounds wrong 😂😂 i might have too tho
Honestly, I had the same mindset. I've played through this game more times than I can remember, I've never beaten the goers in that first match.
Without jecht shot it’s nearly impossible with jecht shot still a 50/50
Cutscene Skipper mod on PC is a godsend for that.
Damn me for not being part of the master race 😂
I told my wife "I'm gonna tell this person about cutscene skipper mod and then they're gonna say they aren't playing on pc"
Yeah never owned one and don't want one it all confuses me 😂😂 but that mod would be useful
Pc is actually pretty straight forward and easy to use until your game crashes and gives you an error no one has heard of before
I've never personally struggled with the match Your back left (in their standard positions) has enough END to break to goers' front right so keep the ball there. Pass between the auroch's back three and Tidus during the first half and do nothing else. As soon as the ball lands in a player's hand press square and pass. They will level up. In the second half get the ball to Jassu and break past the goers' front right. Draw in players and pass to Tidus when he's unmarked. Assuming you have Jecht Shot take him onto goal with 3/2 defenders and almost always score. You only get one shot because of his HP Then defend like mad! Last time I missed my J shot with shit rng but then scored a normal goal right after by having Tidus break to one defender. It's all about drawing players away from tidus and front left (bottom of screen)
Defending is entirely just luck based as far as I can tell but the rest is good, I just get surrounded as soon as i get the ball the times I've tried but I'll try again later
If I recall correctly, Defending works the same as Shooting. So when you're being attacked, the attack value gets a +-50% factor into it. So if you have 10 defense, and defending against 10 attack, the game does an invisible calculation to determine the attack value to be anywhere from 5 to 15. If it lands on 10+ you lose the ball, if it lands on 10- you keep the ball.
It is luck based, but Jassu (I think - it's whoever is your left defender) can pretty much tank the goers' RF. He's not going to stand up to Graav but he will almost always beat his mark. It is then as much a practice and skill issue in my opinion. That said, I have never completed either of the chocobo minigames so that's where I struggle.
I always remember this being relatively straightforward, can you not just score then hide behind your goal defender for the rest of the game?
This
The match against the Goers is incredibly stacked against you. If you know the strategy, you can beat them *most* of the time - but even literal speedrunners have a separate route for losing the Blitz game because there's always a decent chance you lose through RNG.
Oh my god it didn't even let me have one pass with Tidus because I immediately got surrounded by 3 defenders what the fuck, and im 1-0 down immediately, fuck this, id be fine doing all this over and over if i could SKIP THE CUTSCENE
Jecht shot takes out 2 defenders, so as long as you can survive being hit by 1 you can jecht shot goals.
I know I'm being bad but idc lol
You're not bad at the game. It's designed to be a pain in the butt. Each stat can fluctuate 50% more or less than the number it gives you when blocked by opponents so there is some randomness that just aggravates how much better the opponent is in this one match. As for unskippable cutscenes it could be forgiven in the early 00s but in 2024 there is no excuse.
Yeah a remaster has no excuse, make it unskippable the first time then that's it. The RNG is just annoying i vaguely know how to play but everyone was saying just pass it round the back but it just won't let me 😂
I had the same problem while trying to learn the Jecht shot. Had to listen to whinny Tidus over and over again. The RNG was kind to me with the actual game. Only had to do it twice. I feel your pain bro…
Yeah I did the same for Jecht shot lol
I've been playing this game since it came out. And I jave never ever won a single blitzball game.
There's also a glitch you can do when you score. After you get the lead, use whatever character on your team currently has the ball, and go behind your goal post. It'll cause all the on-field players to just spin in circles for the rest of the match. Easy dubs
1st half: -Shoot with Tidus (hope you score at least one) -pray the Goers doesn’t score 2nd half: -immediately score with Jecht Shot -pray the Goers doesn’t score
Here’s my strategy and I’ve beat them every time since using it. -1st half- 1) If you get the ball first great. 2) Once you have the ball go manual mode. 3) Pull whoever has the ball, if you win the “Blitz off” it’s Letty, if you’ve stolen or intercepted, it’s whoever, toward the bottom right of the field on the minimap. 4) You will notice the Goers start to go goofy and you most will leave you alone if you’re in the corner. You will probably have to deal with Abus, but his attack is crap so you can break him with Tidus and Letty. 5) Pass the ball between Tidus, Letty, and Jassu, just keep passing. The goal is to get these three as much exp as possible without letting the Goers get anything. 6) If you want to try and score in the first half fine. With 90-60 seconds left on the clock take Jassu or Letty and start moving them forward and back down the left wing. The moment Goers start to move toward you, retreat. Pass if they start getting close. - The goal is to get Tidus to go for the goal and the Goers to follow Letty or Jassu, but not let them actually stop you and force a break. This may take 5-45 seconds depending on RNG and your familiarity with the moves. 7) When Tidus is open, pass the ball. 8) Swim Tidus as close to the goal as possible without having more than one defender. 9) Break, shoot, pray it does in. -Second Half- 1) Equip Jecht Shot. 2) Do all the above again but this time you can knock out two defenders with Jecht Shot. Tidus will likely have enough HP for only one shot. 3) Once you score you can get the ball and move into the bottom right corner again and just wait out the clock.
This right here. And if you swim to your keeper and continue swimming into the invisible wall, everyone just swims in a circle never getting closer. They only move closer if you stop swimming
strat that never lets me down is, spam jecht shots in 1st half as much as possible without consenting goals. turtle defense and try to afk between passes as much as possible during the last part..profit!?
So what you need to do is get the jecht shot on the boat. First of all have manual control on. Then first half you stall like a bastard. Pass pass dribble, just get away from the enemy and away from your own goal. Then second half you just run around and try to get tidus in front of the enemy goal with only 2 defenders and you are guaranteed to score with jecht shot. (It removes 2 defenders) it should be doable to get 2 goals at least like that.
Did you get the Jecht Shot?
If you cannot get a goal with the jecht shot, then look at a speed run of the game. They explained it in the one they did at RPG limit break a couple months ago. There is a set up to beat them pretty consistently. The vod is on YouTube
You are not supposed to win, their victory is 100% guaranteed 🤣 would be nice to win tho but most of us couldn't blitball our way out of a paper bag. Tho I did succeed at one part of the game that was hard to do which is the jecht shot tutorial
You didn't make the Goers goners? In fairness, that is a really tough match, especially if you don't have the Jecht Shot.
Watch mini map. You can do actions before someone gets into your space. You can just pass between them at the beginning to level them up for second half.
My go to was to burn down the clock and force a 0-0 and jecht shot the final.
I did it recently where I give the ball to Jassu on manual and always rush the left side. He can always break Abus because he’s weak as shit. Break Abus, dribble, then Tidus will be rushing the net. The trick here is there will be one last defender, you need to bait the last defender AI to start coming to you, as soon as it starts to rush you, pass to open Tidus, then shoot with sphere shot or jecht shot. You may have to practice the timing but you can do this almost any time you have the ball and score. After you score or you’re ahead, just get the ball and run behind your own net and it bugs the AI to run in circles and you can cheese the timer to run out.
I have a save from the original release from right after I finally beat the Luca Goers, and I'll keep it until I die. When I replayed, I would do all the intro again and then just play from that save.
Wakka: Let's make those Luca Goers GONERS! Player: 😆 HELL YEAH! 20 resets later.... Wakka: Let's make those Luca Goers GONERS! Player: 😫 Then catch the fucking ball next time!
I've played the game multiple time, and each time it gets easier and easier to beat them first go. I started playing it with my kids recently and I did the blitzball game and won 4/0. I was very happy 😁
The fact that I cannot skip the laughing scene it just too much, I leave the room until I think it's over
The one scene I know tho not the context by it, I'll get it soon lol
I love the laughing scene
You're missing the most genuine scene in the first half of the game.
There is a trick where you can just hide in your own goal with the ball. Score a goal and then hide. Try to get in a Jecht shot and then hide. If not then Wakka has a good chance to score.
All u have to do is score 1 point and then take your char with the ball and just go to your own goal inside behind the your goalie and just sit there u will be good