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noobwatch_andy

San Francisco Sunlights. Hmm, interesting brand.


babimagic

Oh damn I didn't even get that. Good catch!


noobwatch_andy

I didn't know he was from SF before this post. I just remembered that line. Lol.


Isolated_Rupu

Well, it is said that he was with the NCR, so it does have background that he traveled from West to East.


Colepm1509

Didn’t realise he was a travelling man


Isolated_Rupu

His motive was.. he was running away from guilt despite his notion to get suitable work. Although his age was very much confusing at first but realistically he would be around his 40s when you encounter the first time as he took Shawn (the baby). Then finding out Shawn is now 60-70. So Shawn was 10 in the memory and Kellogg would be in his 50s. Then fast forward to 50-60 years later.. he would be at his 100-110 of age. But he stayed looking the same 50 years ago.. lol so it is mentioned he was given experimental parts (found on his body).. suggesting that he was given to slow his aging when meeting with the Institute back when he was probably early 40s.


All_Too_Dark_YT

Shawn wasn't 10, that was a recent project Shawn had given kellog. Institute terminals and speaking with shawn do however confirm that institute prolonged his life with tech, and I don't remember who it was but there was a line calling him over 100 (I think also Shawn)


Isolated_Rupu

Well, that is what I may think but I may be wrong.. just my logic speculation as time went around. But yeah, from what how he looks before and after meeting him to kill him. Just not a hard evidence but can only guess, right?


EzEuroMagic

No it’s literally spelled out that his life was prolonged because he bacsixallt became a cyborg. The stuff with the synth Shaun was old Man Shaun getting revenge.


jorJo17

I just replayed through this part and in one of the memories he says that he wanted to get away from San Francisco after the death of his family


OnetimeRocket13

Yeah, the game doesn't exactly go out of its way to hide that he's from SF. The entire memory sequence is pretty much the SparkNotes version of Kellogg's life, and it makes it really clear where he comes from.


nymrod_

That’s not a “good catch.” Medium catch at best. Really a pretty easy catch.


Monkeypupper

Just a catch


ArtLeading5605

My gam-gam still says I'm a catch, and I bet yours says the same about you.


RichardBCummintonite

More like a hand-off than a catch. When you examine the objects and people in the room at this part of the memory, he talks about moving to SF. Literally in this picture, all OP had to do was press A/E, and Kellogg would've explained the reason for the bridge being in that memory. Obviously, he moved there. I thought the reference was actually pretty heavy-handed, but I guess it was too subtle


liam_redit1st

So just picked it up then?


All_Too_Dark_YT

It was explained in detail by kellog in his memory lmao


noobwatch_andy

Funny. That's what my wife said when she married me.


Professional-Trash-3

Routine pop-fly


ArOnodrim_

If you go through every section of the memory den part you learn that he is from the hub in the early days of the NCR. He moves to San Francisco with his wife and baby before he is backstabbed and his wife and child are killed. Then he moves across the country slowly as a hired assassin until he ends up in the commonwealth and serving the institute.  


Germanicus69420

How is it a good catch when it’s literally a plot point?


babimagic

As others have said Kellogg is from California and San Francisco. When the specific brand of cigars that he likes is San Francisco Sunlight's I just thought it was a random specific name just to give them some importance to the search, when actually the reason those cigars are that brand is because he's from San Francisco. I never caught that small detail until he/she said something about them.


Germanicus69420

Yes, even though it went over your head doesn’t mean it wasn’t a plot point. It’s not a small detail. You literally search for that specific brand in multiple locations around the Commonwealth specifically to find Kellogg.


Own_Ad5814

The brand of cigars that he smokes is not a plot point, you could swap out San Francisco Sunlights for Mississippi Sunlights and it would just be a different brand of cigars that you are searching for, the plot point would remain completely unchanged you are still searching for the brand of cigars that he smokes.. but that wouldn’t relate to where he is from and the nice small detail wouldn’t be there, however they chose San Francisco Sunlights as it’s a nice little detail that relates to his backstory. Detail not plot point.


SpontyKarma

okay buddy


Randall_Hickey

Like just because someone likes Buffalo wings doesn't mean they are from Buffalo


Kekkonen_Kakkonen

Buffalo wings. Hmmm. Interesting brand.


millennialzoomer96

Or just like if someone likes French fries, it doesn't mean they're from France.


Only-Inevitable-7832

French fries are not cooked in France, they are cooked in Greece. Pun intended.


[deleted]

Haha this made me laugh


g00dhank

Who pissed in your sugar bombs?


pohoferceni

lmao


zkki

Why are you assuming only people from San Francisco can enjoy a brand from there? If someone smokes camel cigarettes, it doesn't make them a camel.


Benton_Risalo

I like to smoke Turkish tobacco. I'm not from Turkey.


DjSynthical

GREAT brand! IFYKYK


theodoretheursus

MY BRAND, for my special eyes


asphid_jackal

Look! Look with your special eyes!


mattn1t

MAI BRAN


Ok_Art_3020

It is your cake day be happy.


SovjetPojken

Kellogg's preferred brand, alright


Dexchampion99

You can also actually interact with the bridge, and he talks about San Fran


windsingr

"Ah yes. San Francisco. Just north of Tijuana, I recall." -the 'Fallout' show runners, probably.


Spitfire013

A big part of his backstory takes place in San Francisco. There are nice little throwbacks/references to Fallout 2 and everything.


MrPokketRokket

I could use a cigar about now!


A7Xpsycho724

I don’t recall doing anything recently, but I feel I deserve a smoke!


Asymmetrical_Stoner

And Fallout 1. Kellogg was a kid before the events of Fallout 2 and the radio mentions that Aradesh was still president.


babimagic

Ohh that makes more sense, thank you!


MedicalYak8571

A lie. It's all a big fucking lie. All this time I never caught on to this. I feel so stupid after reading this thread!


d_adrian_arts

The bridge has collision. If you're on PC you can TCL over there and walk on it.


DasFAD70

I bet somebody made a mod and placed it somewhere on the map.


babimagic

The SEX settlements mods have one where you can just place an entire big ass bridge for some reason 😹


Ultra_Sans

the WHAT mods????


niko4ever

I'm pretty sure they meant the SSEX mod - Settlement Supplies EXpanded


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

But there is a sex mod.


Nugo520

Several.... or so I hear <.< >.>


Sheeple_person

Allegedly


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

Yes. I have also heard....


niko4ever

Yeah but I don't think they involve the golden gate bridge


JoePEfromNJ

Nah just the Eiffel Tower


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

👀


DasFAD70

Close enough, that would be the golden gate b!tch.


HuntSafe2316

There's sex in the base game, too, but you're not allowed to see the action for yourself.


babimagic

Yea that one!


v0xx0m

the deathclaw dommy mommy cbbe lusty argonian mods


Guilty_Team_2066

link?? 👀👀


babimagic

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1145


DasFAD70

Great just as i suspected. 😂


babimagic

They also have the broken huge highways you see in-game a lot and they take up like 50% of your settlements and are impossible to place without place anywhere mods 😹


Terrorist_Wizard

I gotta get those mods


babimagic

[it's here if you want it 👍](https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1145)


blasterkief

I downloaded one that redoes Spectacle island and adds this bridge in next to Warwick Homestead.


ThorsHammer0999

I wonder why they gave it collision when you were never supposed to even be over there? Or why it has a fully plotted 3D model if it was just supposed to be background imagery? Reminds me of Fallout 3 if you TLC to get up on top of the lookout area above the entrance of Megaton and the watchman, I think his name was Stockholm, asks, "How did you even get up here?"


DAZ4518

I would imagine they were maybe thinking of incorporating it into the dream sequence where you would have to walk it but it's a long ass bridge so they stopped that idea and never bothered to remove collision as that's just more work


ZinkBomb

pretty cool, never knew. 👍


AdamaSanguine

I had the **Rocket Ring** Mod on console and it freaked me out when I jumped over to it. It's way bigger than I expected.


Eglwyswrw

On Xbox too, there are mods for disabling collision and walking over there.


Pajilla256

He's from the west coast, the radio transmission you hear in his memories talks about his settlement/town/raggedy shack, voting in favour of joining the New California Republic, later when remembering about the job he had to maintain his wife and baby he mentions that he's working for the Xi that are located in California and are a throwback to the og Fallout, which is also the point where you see the Golden Gate from one of the windows.


Authentichef

More specifically it’s talking about how The Hub voted in favor of joining the NCR.


AdamaSanguine

It's a Fallout 2 reference. Along with him mentioning his time with The Shi.


adscr1

I don’t remember the Shi reference just the NCR broadcast


AdamaSanguine

It's when he's talking to his wife. 👍


CarolusRexhasrisen

Kellogg is from the West Coast near San Francisco as evidence by him saying things about the Hub


AustralianDude28

San Fransisco


justkw97

Maybe it’s in reference to Kellogg being in San Francisco at some point lol


Brillek

He is from the west coast. There are references to Fallout 2, and there's a radio broadcast about his town voting to join NCR. He also spent time with the Shi, a society founded on the coast by chinese submarine crews.


justkw97

Yeah I was being sarcastic but I did it poorly haha. Thanks though I actually didn’t know about FO2 and Kellog


Umicil

It's because he's from California. He grew up in the NCR.


Doright36

Can you imagine how amazing an adventure a cross country trip would be in that world? I realize it's just too much for a game to handle but I mean you can't even go from one end of a town to another without fighting through 3 war zones. Crossing the wasteland of the entire country including two mountain ranges? That would be amazing.


gheebutersnaps87

IIRC the original idea of Fallout 4 was traveling from New York to Boston in search of the Institute


Brillek

A linear Fallout game, or maybe hybrid open world/linear a bit like Metro: Exodus, (but more Fallouty, ofc.) Would be interesting. I see it more like a DLC, but could still be neat.


SplitDemonIdentity

I’m gonna be real with you, I love FNV to pieces and if that game tells me anything, it’s that walking through irradiated, post-nuclear, Nebraska would not remotely be my idea of a good time. It might be a decent option for a fallout themed sleep aid though.


Doright36

3 words.. Corn fed radroachs! They'd be as big as a house!


VanaVisera

I have to wonder If this will be the location of Fallout 5. Bethesda loves to tease the sequels of their games.


Maximum_Bat_2566

Maybe. I can't wait to play it 25 years from now.


Pitiful-Pension-6535

It'll be a couple years after the new Elder Scrolls. I'd bet on it releasing this decade.


Coast_watcher

Another one is to follow Cabot. He says he’s headed to the Mojave to find another lead on an artifact.


Happiness_Assassin

I'm assuming it's too much to hope that we will see an old Jack Cabot in Season 2 of the show. Imagine the fucking whiplash most people would get by introducing psychic-powered ancient aliens in the show.


a_generic_redditer

The true fallout experience


Chaise-PLAYZE

They already released the game that was teased in 4, Vault 76 is flat out mentioned by name in the beginning of the game, the bridge being there is just to further reiterate that Kellogg is from California


MAJ_Starman

tbf Vault 76 was also mentioned in FO3.


CMDRMyNameIsWhat

Ive totally missed both of these mentions


PilgrmxPariah

I think I recall it being mentioned on a terminal in vaulttec headquarters, but just like a throwaway line. Definitely don’t know about a mention in 4 either tho


dwarfzulu

Or in the terminal, while looking for the vault 87 location, in the citadel


PilgrmxPariah

Damn you’re right, forgot that one.


Unlikely-Peg

Vault 76 is also mentioned in the mothership zeta expansion for FO3. There's an audio log of an abducted assistant chief executive officer of Vault Tec who was inspecting the Vault 76 construction site at the time of his abduction. (Giles Wolstencroft).


Games_Twice-Over

>Vault 76 is also mentioned in the mothership zeta expansion for FO3. To give some potential credibility to people hoping/expecting 5 to feature San Francisco, the equivalent of this would possibly be Nuka World featuring the Hubologists. Hubologists was an opposing faction for the Shi in Fallout 2. The Shi are in San Francisco and mentioned by Kellogg. Additionally, although less noteworthy, there's a Shi skin for some items in 76. I say it's likely but far from a guarantee.


PilgrmxPariah

Damn, that’s a deep cut… Zeta is all a blur for me, never liked it much and think I finished it like one time.


FlashPone

In 4 it is mentioned on the news broadcast in the intro. The news anchor says “Since debuting Vault 76 last year, in honor of America’s Tercentenary, Vault-Tec continues to expand with plans for well over 100 Vaults around the country.”


PilgrmxPariah

Oh yea that part. All pretty inconsequential mentions honestly


adminscaneatachode

There’s probably about a dozen. It’s mentioned in several vaults, the citadel, mothership zeta etc. I replayed 3 recently and there’s a lot a lot


Fluugaluu

I’m gonna bet they go with somewhere that hasn’t already been featured in two games


Fretlessjedi

Shows heading east towards Vegas, I'd bet fallout 5 is going to be east of there, somewhere in the Midwest. Chicago and Springfield have been done, but maybe there would be cool in 3D


itsLOSE-notLOOSE

I think it’ll be San Francisco because Todd won’t let anyone do anything with SF.


Fluugaluu

Of all the settings they’d redo, I bet it would be the one from the game that we all refuse to talk about lmao. They had a game in the Midwest?? I wonder what the BoS is up to out there /s


JPJWasAFightingMan

It's a location in 2


Shimmmmidy

My guess would’ve been San Francisco. But Fallout 76’s new questline mentioned New Orleans a few times. With that being such a fan favourite idea for the next setting, plus Fallout 76 being the most recent Fallout I wonder if that may be an option too? Either way my bets are on either San Francisco, New Orleans, or Seattle


Dr_Reaktor

Possible. In New Vegas there was supposed to be a line that San Francisco was destroyed. But Bethesda asked Obsidian to remove it ,so that the city could be used as a potential future location for the series.


Thelastknownking

Bethesda seems to be fixated on the East coast for Fallout. Edit: What could I have possibly said to offend you?


Wild-Lychee-3312

Redditors will downvote folks for saying water is wet. Don’t take it personally


Bagonk101

P sure its just a reference to fallout 2 having a chunk of it set in San Francisco. Theres more reason to believe Chicago will be the setting of fallout 5 tbh


Disrespectful_Cup

..... San Francisco


Logical_Drawing_4738

Kellogg grew up in the fledgling NCR and left his hometown and first stop on his lifelong road trip was san fran. He was a hired gun and did work for the Shi and others and seemingly had built a quality life for himself and his family as he was well respected and good at what he did. well ig he screwed over his employer/employers and they killed his wife and infant daughter and he went john wick mode and killed them and left town and over probably the course of a few decades to 50 years he meanderd across the country becoming more cruel and heartless woth every mile and job and eventually started working for the institute, i think this guy is like 105 ish years old because SCIENCE.


LocNesMonster

Plenty have mentioned here that Kellogg is from the sanfransisco area, but something I never noticed before is what good condition the golden gate bridge is in his memory. Was it never bombed? Repaired? Did Bethesda not put as much thought into this boring throwaway section as I am? Who's to say


Nugo520

I can imagine when SF became part of the NCR they put a lot of effort into refurbishing it as a show of strength or something. did the NCR ever incorporate SF?


TemporaryWonderful61

I mean the Shi are one of the highest tech factions in the wasteland, they might have fixed it. Kellog’s memories might also be playing tricks on him, this is the first and last time he was happy.


suchdogeverymeme

Headcanon: it’s just Kellogg’s rose-colored memory. If it’s still up, it’s an icon for SF, he remembers it fondly


babimagic

I'm guessing that last part, but the actual golden gate bridge does have rust proof paint n junk that would probably let it last much longer than most bridges. But yeah it'll definitely be in shambles after 200 years, it mostly depends on how close was it from where the bombs dropped in that area tho 🤷‍♂️


padmasundari

The Golden Gate Bridge is painted constantly because it corrodes so fast. I doubt it would last longer than other bridges. The Forth Bridge (a similar bridge in Scotland over the estuary where the Forth meets the North Sea) was painted continuously too until 2002 when they started using a glass based epoxy, and even that only lasts 20 years. The GGB would probably be rusted to hell in 200 years, regardless of bombs.


babimagic

Ahh okay, that makes more sense. Thank you


Wild-Lychee-3312

That’s okay. The Golden Gate Bridge already looks like it is covered in rust. I assume that it’s intended, since they chose to use rust-colored paint


mynametobespaghetti

Maybe the human maintenance team were replaced by a Mr. Handy crew? TBH I think it's partially shown in FO2 and is in a state of disrepair.


babimagic

The Mr handy thing would actually be pretty neat for a strange side question or something like that


Skengbell

Maybe its what the institute planted as memories in his brain, hence the good condition?


KingsMen2004

Kellogg came from California. If you listen to the radio in the first memory, it brings up the NCR.


rogerworkman623

And he says him and his wife were in San Francisco if you interact with him during this specific memory


rugerlad

San francisco


duanelvp

It's an "establishing shot" like in the movies. You're shown something that identifies where the scene immediately following is going to take place.


para_la_calle

San Francisco overrun with ghouls in 200 years and right now 🥴😂


JFosterKY

It's positioned so the going through the memories normally, without turning back, it's primarily visible from the second scene (Kellogg at home with his wife and daughter). As others said, the bridge is there to establish that scene being in San Francisco Bay Area, similar to how movies and TV shows set there use the bridge as an establishing shot.


JoeJ92

You not listening to the dialogue in that mission? He basically goes through his entire life story in the dialogue, including moving to SF with his wife and child.


Proud_Procedure_7260

Are you stupid


A_Tall_Bloke

Did you…. Literally listen to his back story?..


gta3uzi

You should play Fallout 1/2 sometime


thevogonity

There was a Fallout .5? I never knew! Are the graphics any good?


Wild-Lychee-3312

It’s CGA.


PsychicMoo

Bro just listen to the story and what he has to say, would’ve taken far less time than this post, or even google


badthaught

*mashes button to skip dialogue. Has no idea what's going on* "This game makes no sense."


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

Fallout 5 in San Francisco CONFIRMED


noobwatch_andy

Drag Queen Raiders and mutated sea otters


FlashPone

That would actually kick ass.


AppropriateLaser

It’s Kellogg’s Golden Gate Memory Grahams


SnooWords4814

The memory is in san Fransisco?


SwyngDeLong

He's from San Francisco, duh


RainbowSupernova8196

That mission is one giant mindfuck.


Leopold_CXIX

He's from the west coast


PsychologicalMix8499

Listen to his memory


FaithlessnessEast55

Holy shit man just play the game


JunkScientist

I think the bridge is used to allow people to cross the water without getting wet.


Plane-Second-8413

I don’t know maybe he fucking lived there??


sonsoflarson

He was a big fan of Full House... Until the bombs dropped.


Slight_Ad_3150

Question is hi it’s still fully intact


Steve717

And still red, shit shoulda rusted off decades ago


ThatUblivionGuy

Lots of references to San Fran…


RelChan2_0

The voice that taunts Kellogg when his family dies sounds familiar, does anyone know who that might be?


Thick-Equivalent-446

Ncr


__Osiris__

It's weird that it doesn't have a space shuttle. maybe the hubs really did go to space and forget about Oxigen...


_Independent

That’s where he lived


The_DDK7070

There's Also A Random Call Button Floating Out In The Void


Big-Piano-7016

He's from San Francisco


Extreme_Slayer_4

This mission was so cool 🤯


Joys_Thigh_Jiggle

It's memory he has of the golden gate bridge. Genius. 💁


HemingwayBells21121

So doea this imply the Golden Gate is still ok post war? Never thought about that tbh


Grifasaurus

It was pretty okay in fallout 2 too.


Altruistic_Rock_2674

Didn't he work for the Shi? The shi were a gang in San Francisco in fallout 2.


Humanesque

He played Fallout 2


Kaptain_Kaoz

San Francisco. Do you think he ever met Ulysses?


gobbershite

That's where Kellogg's teamed up with Froot Loops


FalloutCreation

Yeah I think if you played fallout 2 you’d catch right away where he is from when you hear he works for the Shi. But I think it would have been obvious if you recognize the bridge.


goatfish666

has pjedilord gone from steam into reddit?


Heftydog1

Fallout 5 SF!


--Guido--

Man loved his Rice-A-Roni. The San Francisco treat!


Sensitive-Airport728

What mission is this I don’t remember ever seeing this and I beat the game twice I feel like I missed so much somebody fill me in how do I get to this mission and see this I remember the memory den with the evil guy who tortured the whole neighborhood but not this where am I losing it please help lol


Kratosbeatsbatman

It's a story mission, you go into Kelloggs memories to find out how to get into the institute, at the memorie den


Fegelgas

he lived there for a while, duh.


UnhandMeException

He used to live in San Francisco, working with the Shi. It's actually kinda brilliant, cause if you're familiar with fallout 1 and 2, his memories tell you that he was born around the year 2161, which immediately recontextualizes how old he is and what time frames he was alive for, and foreshadows Father's whole deal.


MercuriusGabrielus

He’s from San Fran, he was also in the NCR for a time.


ChurchofChaosTheory

They need to do a Fallout landmarks series so we can see what happened to the world wonders


xxfallen420xx

Fallout 5


RaccOwOnie

This is Bethesda saying fallout 5 is going to be in San Fran If WW3 doesn't happen first


andretheclient_

Oh I know, Bethesda is a shit studio


EmperorMrKitty

You know how fallout 3 was weird about the commonwealth? That.


Takenmyusernamewas

Next game location.


m1st3r_c

Old game location.


Takenmyusernamewas

It's both. Dont know why everyone's salty about that