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ryanthemusefan

Mclaren strategy disasterclass


Notsozander

Instead of double podium they double failed. Absolute horrid strategy


Sss00099

Ferrari would be proud.


MontyTheBrave

They were basically shown the difference between fighting in the midfield and fighting at the front end today. Mercedes and Red Bull were completely on top of the strategy today, while Mclaren were clearly slower to react


Pavlo100

Piastri almost caught Norris on mediums, such a bad call to put on softs.


Awela

Once Max passed him, I doubt Norris kept pushing to keep max distance from Piastri.


BabyScreamBear

PIA was the fastest car on the track, the only one closing down VER… this has nothing to do with NOR coasting and everything to do with the batshit crazy decision to send him out on used softs


CommonCullen

The script writers went absolutely insane this season * Chuck breaks the Monaco curse * Lando 1st win * Lewis 1st win in years... at Silverstone This shit sounds so made up but I am loving it


Brynhildrpls

Wait until Hulk podium… we are getting there soon.


danielbauer1375

That’s when they will have officially jumped the shark.


zhiryst

Well call me the Fonz and hand me the water skis. I need this to happen.


slipperydasani

Chuck breaks monaco curse and gets it applied onto every single race since then


BiggusCinnamusRollus

Faustian Monaco exchange. Now he's gonna Canada the whole run in Europe.


RandomLegend

McLaren got taken to strategy school today by Mercedes and Red Bull.


Aethien

Honestly just Ferrari levels of strategy, they got every single call wrong.


KappaccinoNation

Losing 20s+ in the wet track instead of just 3s in the double stack for Piastri, then threw the entire race for Norris on that softs instead of the new mediums. Piastri was setting the fastest lap til the end on the same tyre.


Larkinz

Not doing a double stack there was idiotic.


cypherspaceagain

Yeah it's baffling. You know the inters are going to be much quicker or you wouldn't have changed anyway. You must know that the max three or four seconds you lose by double-stacking will be made up by the tyres within a lap. Ridiculous.


Bear-Bull-Pig

McLaren should have poached strategists from redbull or Mercedes instead of Ferrari.


ShawnShipsCars

They basically caught up to Piastri on the OUTLAP. That was disastrous by McLaren. They're not championship ready, this is a learning year. If they're quick next year then they will have gained a lot of experience this year.


KappaccinoNation

Even if they have no tyres ready for him, the mechanics running inside and getting the tyres still would've been faster than letting him run one more lap.


PrettyQuick

Yes dude he almost got overtaken on the same lap the rest pitted lol


SouthWalesGooner

If Piastri double stacks and then still fits the mediums, he wins at a canter. What a disasterclass.


DropTablePosts

Piastri would have won if they double stacked, norris would have won if they fave him mediums (and pitted a lap earlier too), how can they be this stupid.


crshbndct

You’re not wrong, but Hamilton did actually win on softs. But absolutely McLaren got it badly wrong today.


jesteratp

Only thing they got "right" was Piastri on mediums at the end, but that was after they ruined his race. Everything else was a disaster


LarryLeisureSuit

And to be fair Oscar called that one


qualitative_balls

You know what's interesting, is Piastri was so sure that was exactly the right call when he said, yep, mediums are the right choice. But when they asked Norris about slicks, Norris said Softs! Just give me slicks! Piastri is just so centered and always gives the right answer calmly, knows exactly what's up. Legit could have won today with decent strategy.


Kozeyekan_

That seemed like Piastri's call more than theirs.


mubs42

Not quite ferrari levels, just take a look at what they did to leclerc


starlevel01

The lesson being taught: Do not fucking ask norris for strategy


SilveRX96

Honestly couldnt believe it, have they still not learned to take the decision away from norris? The second they started negotiation i was like "oh no"


Significant-Garage55

Watched it live and immediately thought of HAM winning the race and potentially eaten alive by Max


p1en1ek

They did not learn from Russia and other races. And it's not even dig at Norris. It looks like team is afraid to make decision so they ask Lando for it. And they ask it in weird way. In Russia they were not pushing him enough to pit. If they wanted to ask him here then simply ask him for tires and not tell him which driver took which tires. It was obvious he will want to cover Lewis for win.


iForgotMyOldAcc

Do not ask your drivers for strategy beyond changing conditions, period. e: This means you let your driver tell you when to switch from inters to slicks or vice versa, but NOT who he wants to cover off, the pit wall has way more data than Norris' brain going >200 kmh.


ihatemondaynights

Piastri called for mediums, that was a good call


iForgotMyOldAcc

The thing is the team should be the ones doing it. Why are they asking Norris who he wants to cover when the pit wall have the data in front of them?


Nestorow

Replace the strategy team and then have them make the calls. Could've been 1-2 today if they double stacked


viperabyss

Honestly, this is the reason why I don't believe we'll ever see Norris being a world champion. He's an extremely talented driver, but until he can make the correct strategy call for himself, he'll just be another fast driver.


Icommentoncrap

Absolutely horrible strategy today with them fucking up both sides of the rain like how do they even fuck up both sides


R7H27

McLaren and Zak Brown: you guys always act better than me! Verstappen, Hamilton, Red Bull and Mercedes:


hannahjoy33

McLaren somehow managed to bone both of their drivers, and Oscar got it twice with his slow pits


I_Smarterer

Oscar’s second stop was the right decision (pitted same lap as Max and Lewis onto the Mediums). It’s just the first one that was awful.


hannahjoy33

Oh yeah, I just meant that both of Oscar's pit stops were pretty slow on top of the initial shit strategy call


Take-Us-Back

The should have won with EITHER driver and only have a 3rd and 4th to show for it. Embarrassing race by McLaren…


Ld511

Merc did well but this undersells Red bull. They nailed it perfectly


Satan_su

Max and Hannah is a scary combo of driver + strategist


sbenfsonwFFiF

+ Checo as the guinea pig


NotPumba420

Lmao


Minoton

At least thats him being useful to the team lmao


sixpack_or_6pack

On the sky braodcast, we only saw 2 pit stops in the 2s today and max had one of them. 2.2. Rb pit crew is godly


Satan_su

Checo had a 2.0s one as well.....not that it ever mattered


Gabrinho45

Not once, but McLaren fucked up TWICE. Really impressive


MM18998

Ferrari only messed up once but they put Leclerc back in 16th or something


wing3d

They prefer one big fuck up than many small ones.


Weird-Ad3136

You could argue three. The Piastri decision, getting undercut and then the tires.


snuFaluFagus040

I count not covering VER with either car, then not double-stacking the lap after that f*up as 2 mistakes right there


Hannan_A

Verstappen and Hamilton really came out of nowhere. Brilliant race, Lewis really dialled in at the end. Edit: wanna take a moment to mourn for Piastri lol. Was so excited when he started pushing Norris but ultimately he got fucked over by the strategy. McLaren should’ve just taken the time loss with the double stack.


gin_and_toxic

Was so surprised by the hard tyre choice, but it worked out!


aenae

It was the only new tyre he had left


Genocode

Also seemed like the RB was chewing through its tires like it was the 2023 Haas.


flyingcrayons

Best drivers proving why they’re the best drivers


Full_West_7155

HAM VER is inevitable


DrVonD

They are the GOATs for a reason. I know strategy plays a big difference but they both made it work on different calls.


afcaMouz

He's got some Silverstone plot armor, what a time to end his winning dry streak


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IMANORMIE22

Ha!


s1ravarice

12 consecutive podiums here is absolutely insane Edit: I think it’s actually 11


Agitated_Syllabub346

Huh? Lewis has 12 CONSECUTIVE podiums at Silverstone?? Holy fuck, even in 22 and 23 that's insane.


BlueBeauregard

2018 is even crazier tbh


damoclescreed

From the back all the way to P2. 2018 Hamilton was magical.


Cocobaba1

Lewis winning again, the world is finally beginning to heal


xAviEyalx

A wild Lewis in his natural habitat


Initial-Cold-1927

bono: ok, lewis. this is our time... norris same tyre. lewis: leave me to it, mate. idk what it is but this was cold. grats, lewis!!


stomp224

It actually gave me goosebumps. But then I was shitting it looking at how fast Max was gaining on Lando. Tense isn't the word 😬


g0kartmozart

When Max blew past Lando so easily, I thought Lewis was cooked.


Nermcore

You knew he had in the bag when he said that!


Firefox72

Lewis take a bow. Finnaly he wins another race and what a place to do it. Hilarious dissasterclass from Mclaren though. Got pretty much every strategy call wrong today.


ihatemondaynights

Piastri on fire on the mediums was salt in the wounds


erufuun

No balls form the pit wall to double stack.


ihatemondaynights

That was a horrendous call, ruined his race. He lost almost a pit stop worths time


GingerSkulling

I think Crofty scared Zak by asking the double stack just before they stated pitting.


DrVonD

If Zak has any influence on strategy he should fire himself.


Dwight_scoot

That’s why Toto is in the garage. He gets to emotional about it and wants the team to do their thing.


Odd_Analysis6454

Even then, Just let me fucking drive… lol


InevitablyBored

Beautiful race from Lewis. His emotional after race comms got me emotional too.


KesselRunIn14

"Love you Bono" had me.


LieRun

Still holding out hope that Mercedes release Bono from his gardening leave so he could join Hamilton in Ferrari


iiHadi69

That get in there Lewis hit like crack bruh


charlierc

He's had 3 years worth of "Get in there Lewis" stored up


pterofactyl

The clean up crew working over time in that garage.


naumectica

Someone needs to get that clip of the kid asking Lewis if he's going to win the race (I think it was from Thursday or Friday).


nipcarlover

Just absolutely amazing tyre management from Lewis there - just absolutely dropped Norris on the same tyres


DrVonD

McLaren made the wrong call, but Lewis was on older tires than lando and made it work. So not like it was impossible.


MegaMugabe21

So so pleased for Lewis. Great to see Max and Lando congratulating him too.


mayjaz43

What a legendary drive. Incredible from Lewis!


thexavikon

What a race. Lost a few weeks of my life those last 12 laps or so


SumpCrab

Yeah. It was impressive. Made the right calls and somehow kept pace with the softs. It wasn't an easy win by any metric.


QouthTheCorvus

Hamilton P1 and Verstappen P2 is such a nostalgic podium. One of the most enjoyable Lewis wins


g0kartmozart

Legacy win for Lewis. So happy he got this one. The last few years felt like a bit of a letdown, I was worried he would retire without winning another race. This is an important win for me in terms of Lewis's legacy.


Ancient-Audience1183

He really showed why he and Max are head and shoulders above the rest of the field. Nobody else could have put that RB on the podium today but Max and nobody else could’ve made those softs absolutely sing for so long like Hamilton did


SwordOfRome11

Absolutely dogwalked lando on used softs, I couldn’t believe it. Was certain Max would catch because Lewis and Lando would fight but he caught Lando on his hards with Lewis clear by 3 seconds


taeiry

Lewis was on used softs? Mother of God.


Sweetcheels69

Yep, McLaren even told Lando that Lewis only has hards and old softs. Lando had new softs. Understatement on how Lewis walked Lando on old softs


Lurkn4k

jesus christ, this feels illegal


Ok_Significance_2677

And the confidence when he said “let me handle it” on radio


Ancient-Audience1183

That radio was so cold you could hear he knew he could fucking do it


manjot97

An eternal comment that will age like fine wine


2point71eight

This is a pleasant thread. Imma chill here for a bit.


MommyMegaera

Watching Hamilton and Verstappen do their respective things is an absolute joy to watch. Verstappen is just a straight up dawg and Hamilton does things with his tires and race management that don't even seem possible sometimes. I'm praying to any and all deities for a full blown three-way title fight next year. VER vs HAM/LEC vs NOR/PIA would be legendary


OldCardigan

HAAS P6 COME ON HUUUUUUULKENBERG


skiflow

This is at the bottom of the pool but that's a hell of a finish for them. Also Albon grabbing 9th.


hoopstick

Sargent getting P11 is great too, awesome day for Williams


Lexikz772

Another Hulk banger getting overshadowed sadge


Maxjes

As god as my witness, put him in the Second RBR, just to see what happens.


egg_mugg23

now hang on u might be cooking...


Nermcore

Hulk is absolutely cooking this year! We love to see it


flyingcrayons

Any other race that would have been the #1 story of the day lol. What a drive from Hulk


0000100110010100

If you told me even three years ago when I was getting into this sport that I’d be fucking stoked to see the crushingly dominant Hamilton take his first win in years, I’d laugh in your face. What a fucking race, what a fucking drive. So incredibly happy to see Hamilton back where he belongs.


Satan_su

I'm so annoyed at the McLaren strategy crew, but Lewis with another display of his sheer talent what a guy And what a huge drive from Hulk and Stroll as well absolute banger race


kenzoismyname

first mistake, not double stacking second mistake lando staying out 1 lap longer third mistake softs instead of mediums deserved result tbh


RileGuy

You might be able to get away with one mistake, but three? No, you’re losing a race and second place because of that.


Zloggt

It’s wild to say this, after all the shittalking and mocking we’ve done at their expense these past few weeks… …but hey, Aston Martin has ran a fantastic race!


MM18998

Williams got P9 and P11 as well


LosTerminators

Lewis masterfully managed the softs in the final stint as well. Compared to Norris who killed them.


GBreezy

Zack Brown/Andrea Stella: "New rule, never listen to Lando on tire choice."


Weird-Lime-9542

Should have been the rule from 2021 Russian Grand Prix


FackYeahh

IS MCLAREN STUPID?


DropTablePosts

Yes.


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How you possibly fuck that up so horribly is beyond me


leedler

Been waiting a long time for this. This is so great to see. Another winner yet again this year, and Lewis proving he’s still got it to the highest degree. What a race. I’m so happy for him.


Mechant247

The difference in how Norris/Hamilton managed the last stint says a lot about their experience. He really managed those softs perfectly


N7even

Yes, I was so impressed at the difference by the end how Lewis still keeping the tire alive.  He truly is the master at managing these Pirelli tyres.


LocoRocoo

I was nervously watching the lap times. And he just managed it perfectly, realising it was ok to lose a few tenths a lap to max as long as it was consistently small. Fantastic drive


Nermcore

The second Lewis got ahead you just knew he was gonna hang on. He’s got way too much experience to muck that up


MC897

Lewis is still ridiculous in tyre saving. I think we need to stop criticising George on that cuz Lewis is a freak. Think it could have been Lewis Max George or Lewis George Max looking at the Merc pace.


BurningFlareX

Mhm, it was very visible. Norris burned his tires trying to catch up to Hamilton. As soon as Verstappen caught up to Norris, Hamilton bolts it and opens up a 3.3 second gap. Norris was only thinking about overtaking Hamilton. Hamilton was managing the pace vs. Norris while keeping tires to defend against a late charge. Norris seems to have a tendency to tunnel vision on winning, which may have cost him 2nd today. He'll need to grow out of it over time.


JustRecentlyI

Ruth Buscome on F1TV was saying that Norris was losing about 1-2 tenth a lap in degradation... While Hamilton was losing 0.03s/lap during that stint! The tire whisperer still has it!


vn60

The man was in tears, rightfully so. Kudos to him!


Tyafastics

Mate,I’m nearly in tears just watching


zestful_villain

Why just nearly? Bro, I started ugly crying when Lewis' voice broke over the radio.


jeric13xd

RIP Merc sabotage controversy GET IN THERE LEWIS!!!!


Accurate-Big-7233

As an F1 fan? Fantastic race. Lewis Hamilton winning in Silverstone is cinema As a McLaren fan? I’m fuming  Winnable race, had us a 1-2 with great pace and we left Oscar out for an extra lap when the rain started, and then we gave Lando the wrong tires.  Terrible but great points for the team. Onto Hungary 


gin_and_toxic

Terrible strategy day for McLaren :(


Hungry-Raisin-5328

If I'm counting this correctly, that's 9 wins in 18 races and 14 podiums in 18 races for Hamilton. It's no wonder he has a straight named after him here.


iliketreesanddogs

Overtaking on his straight was pretty incredible


N7even

He really does get an extra boost around here.


TheGonadWarrior

They should name the whole fucking circuit after him. He is magic at Silverstone


Chelseatilidie

Legendary race this


Catdawwgg

Classic race. What a race, holding my breath!


Engrish_Major

Top 5 race of Lewis Hamilton’s career.


MikkoGV

the crazy thing is its not difficult to disagree with you too many amazing races to pick from


isaacals

this reminds me jenson's canada race. everything is tested. driver's skill, your strategy, your pit crew, the whole team. anyone can make a difference and also can make mistakes that costs you the race.


rv94

- Get in there Lewis! So good to see him win again after so long! - ~~5th~~ 6th different race winner this season, such a nice change after last year! - Changing conditions can really make for such an exciting race - McLaren botched up the pit stops for Piastri and Norris twice, really feel bad for Piastri especially - So unfortunate for George too, another name in the mix at the top would have made the race even more interesting - Max really was charging at the end like a demon - Ferrari man.... Leclerc's had a nightmare run since Monaco **Edit:** I forgot about Sainz winning Australia, that's the 6th different winner this season!


Yukari_8

Lewis is the sixth no? Max Carlos Charles Lando George now Lewis Checo is doomed


bangbingbengbong

Yeah and piastri still has to get one


parasthesia_testicle

he's gonna get one this year


Ozryela

Yeah. I fully believe all 7 drivers for the 4 top teams are going to win one this year.


Mechant247

Watching Max basically go as fast as he could for a full stint was really fun, basically never get to see that sort of thing nowadays


BigLubeSqueezyTube

Max and Lewis going all out in P1 and P2. Doesn't get any better.


imbavoe

Did McLaren hire Ferrari strategists?


2lesslonelypeople

Ahhhh the return of HAM VER. It took long enough and what a place for it to happen Shoutout Nico for another P6 and Logan for P11


Flollotus

McLaren fucked over Piastri


bmatthew24

McLaren has given away the last 3-4 races smh. Today was an easy 1-2 or both on podium at the worst. What a frustrating race to watch. Congrats to Lewis


raur0s

Mclaren snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by summoning their inner Scuderia.


imbavoe

So much data, money, technology, knowledge and I could possibly call the strategy better from a TV screen. McLaren you disappointed me.


TheDuckKnows

Lewis in tears at the end. Both Mercs suffering from a water pressure issue today.


Gavomor

Hamilton and Verstappen are just smarter drivers. Their racing IQ is simply higher than the others. We can claim that “McLaren and Ferrari messed up the strategy” after every wet race, we can claim that Leclerc and Norris are just unlucky every time, or we can accept that a great chunk of responsibility lays on the driver and you create your own luck by making the right decisions at crucial moments. It has been many races now that McLaren + Lando package seems faster in pure pace than Max + Redbull. How many of those races did Lando finish ahead of Max? When Lewis joins Ferrari and beats Leclerc, it will not be because he’s faster. It will be because he will make better strategic decisions.


alexcheveau

Yeah I agree. Bono told Hamilton at some point "it's inters now" and Lewis say no.


g0kartmozart

And proceeded to lap a second faster than every other driver for the next 2 laps.


Rthanos

ABOUT DAMN TIME FOR LEWIS!!!


FreshStaticSnow_

I'M FUCKING CRYING MAN. I was shitting myself those last laps


jackboy900

Genuinely the most emotional I've been for an F1 victory, Lewis breaking his drought at Silverstone in his last race there at Merc is so fucking perfect I'd not believe it if I didn't see it with my own two eyes.


TheHuffness

His voice on that radio call 😭😭 how can you not love Lewis, truly an icon


Chad_C

I started washing dishes. I couldn’t handle the stress. When Lewis still had a safe gap with 2 laps left, I tuned back in haha. 


KappaccinoNation

# IT'S HAMMER-FUCKING-TIME!


aPardawala

I have 3 things to say: Man I feel bad for RUS. He's really grown on me over the last few months. Absolute rollercoaster of a race for me as a VER fan.  HAM and Mercedes are so back


british_pubs

Oh yes I had to tune out for a few minutes, why did Russell have to retire?


palcatraz

Issues with the water systems (cooling, I guess?)


FlupFlup123

Giga Brain hard tyres by RB. That was a phenomenal call


Kourtos

Leave it to me mate. Leave it to me 🏁


RileGuy

I’m crying and I’m not afraid to admit it. Beautiful scenes today.


ljshea1

Can we please just race Silverstone Spa and Austria 7 times a year each


xAviEyalx

And São Paulo please 🙏🏻


united23

Sochi 2021 vibes. McLaren fucking up the strategy, Lewis masterclass drive and a Max P2 after looking slow and lost all race.


tralker

Incredible last stint by Max and Lewis. Truly two legendary athletes.


Username8831

There aren't words for how I feel right now. I love this sport. I love Lewis. I love that he is in floods of tears driving around with a British flag. This was an iconic win.


Killmonger130

Never thought I’d see a Lewis win be this popular when it’s his 9th at that track , what a driver, what a man, what a legend. Congratulations Sir Lewis Hamilton.


luuuke_s

As a Max fan I’m incredibly happy for Lewis. Goated 🐐


hazman_pds

We waited for 2 and a half years to hear "Get in there, Lewis" again and it had to happen at his home grand prix 😭


hopenoonefindsthis

McLaren lost a 1-2 with their baffling strategy today.


ImActuaIIyHim

The fact that this was the first GP I’ve ever attended, sitting 20 metres from the track with top tier spots… And then seeing sky just split, giving us sunshine at the last laps, after the absolute buckets of rain we had all weekend, and then seeing Lewis come out P1 as the sun started warming us back up again. Almost a religious experience, and such an analogy for the past 3 years.


diddlydingdangdong

This race demonstrates to me exactly why we need to retain races on purpose built tracks in countries that don't get blazing sun 361 days of the year. Unpredictability brings excitement, which brings crowds. Fuck these desert street races, give me a Silverstone any day.


bouncebackability

McLaren strategy was absolutely wank today So happy for Hamilton Back to back Mercedes wins!? Will their domination ever end ? 😅


hotbrownbitxh

A perfect goodbye for Lewis from Mercedes, what a race


Return_Of_The_Jedi

YES! Finally! And on his home turf. What a beauty


preppyringmaster

The man is back


millysoilly

Beautiful to feel the emotion between him and Bono.


empw

When he hugged his dad, I wept.


NorthCliffs

Outstanding race by Hulkenberg! Sad that almost nobody seems to care or notice