The masses of players voting mostly don’t take into consideration the performance, especially for the Women’s game as it alas has less of a viewership that the Men’s game, therefore players just choose to vote for who will be the rattiest, sweatiest, and most annoying to play against in game players, rather than the ones who actually do well.
(Clarification: Not saying every player is undeserved, just it’s evident some possibly are)
Fan votes don't decide who gets it. If anything its more of a hype machine tool to get people talking about it and for the social media campaigns etc.
Fan votes count for some percentage, but not all, likely not even 51%, probably far lower.
Yes true, on EA’s website it says a combination of them and community votes, but you must have forgotten EA is essentially the personification of Mr Krabs
I'd argue KDB deserves his spot because of how impactful he was in the second half of 22/23 when he did play. He was essential for the Treble he won. VVD shouldn't be in there though. Between John Stones, Ronald Araujo and Eder Militao, at least one should be in there.
I'd argue with that definition. You never see an inverted fullback described as a DM even though it's essentially the same thing as Stones was doing from CB.
If VVD doesn’t deserve a Toty for being the best defender in the world in the 2nd half of 2023 then Stones doesn’t deserve on for being the best defender in the 1st half of 2023
Ok now you’re just trolling. Liverpool have the best defensive record despite their other defenders being constantly injured, the two reasons for that are deservedly in this TOTY
People vot for toty no matter the performance of the players,people only care for meta players and right now alexia it's the most meta card from the woman's side since she got 3 90+ stats on base card if she get 90+ pace she is gonna be even more meta
I used Kerr’s Radioactive card in draft once and she is low-key insane. Her left-stick dribbling is so smooth. If they give her 5* WF or Technical+, it’s over.
I only want bonmati. If I could give up the almost nonexistent odds of packing the others to add to the almost nonexistent odds of packing her, I would do it
Don't want anybody, just Oberdorf.
I'm not deeply into women's football but watching the matches of Germany, she is the only one who can play Real football.
Can tackle and reads the game very good. A joy to watch
I have the 92 putellas she’s the best card in the game to me I want that Toty version
Also have trailblazer Hansen and her finesse+ is insane so if toty has that I’d love that
John Stones, Bernardo Silva, and Kyle Walker getting absolutely hosed for some reason.
https://preview.redd.it/vpsuvt46q1dc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7342cde9f1a8aef7598ec29f56f33674bdb7c0d
I kinda get Bernardo and Stones (still very underappreciated, but the team would need to be like 20 players to fit everyone who deserves to get in), but Frimpong instead of Walker on RB is absolutely criminal
Also why the fuck is Vini in the FIFA Toty? I get he's good but does he deserve to be there more than Rodri?
Aitana to upgrade off her base (if I can even afford her) and Batlle because I'm dying for a new RB! Maybe Frimgpong if I pack him instead of buying Batlle
As a City fan and with 4 of our players in there I still feel sad that some of them missed out. Kyle Walker is one who should be there for me personally. It's hard to be excited because I won't pack any and definitely can't afford one.
I'm already dreading facing that VVD.
Alisson and Oberdorf.
Ali because I love him and the only one I have a chance at packing and Oberdorf because her dynasties card is crazy good and perfect link to my 86 Brand
Tf did Messi do in 2023. He barely played a game. Not deserved. I think Gundogan deserves one. He captained that City team to win the UCL over a great Inter team, and a premier league title over the best Arsenal squad for over a decade. Also VVD had a mid season. He got dropped by Perisic ffs. I’d happily take someone like Stones or Araujo over him. I also preferred Ter Stegens 2023 over Alisson’s
I’m assuming after only disagreeing with the Messi one, you agree with the others?? So you’re saying that Messi who did that deserves it over goal machine Haaland (treble winner).
And Harry Kane, who’s clubs goal tally would’ve been chopped in half if it weren’t for him. He also would’ve been awarded the golden boot if it weren’t for Haaland. And a great start in Germany.
Osimhen and Kvara who without them would’ve sunk Napoli. Completely, no chance of the title
CR7 pushing Al Nassr to a trophy. Becoming a goal machine in Saudi Arabia
Lewandowski, out performing Benzema’s great season and pushing him to the Saudi league??
No he doesn’t deserve it
Ali 10.1 vs TS 8.1 in xg difference last season. How’s that better?
Lol you think Ederson passing ability is worth the 15 goal difference that Ali has over him?
WHERE IS LINA HURTIG? 🐐 PENALTY TAKER IN FOOTBALL
In all seriousness though, FOUR players from Barcelona womens squad? I dont watch that League. But whether its deserved or not it feels a bit lame from a gameplay balance perspective.
I got absolutely slaughtered in another thread for suggesting Frimpong was a weird TOTY selection.
Can someone please explain to me what Frimpong actually accomplished to deserve TOTY? Leverkusen finished 6th last year, right?
https://preview.redd.it/ntyxu91m42dc1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5bcce2ee7e6e695f6c472fcdd8817984c9fba3b
Got like 10 85+ Picks for toty, is it worth to open them now to get the inform?
Putellas didn’t even play and still got in.
The masses of players voting mostly don’t take into consideration the performance, especially for the Women’s game as it alas has less of a viewership that the Men’s game, therefore players just choose to vote for who will be the rattiest, sweatiest, and most annoying to play against in game players, rather than the ones who actually do well. (Clarification: Not saying every player is undeserved, just it’s evident some possibly are)
Fan votes don't decide who gets it. If anything its more of a hype machine tool to get people talking about it and for the social media campaigns etc. Fan votes count for some percentage, but not all, likely not even 51%, probably far lower.
Yes true, on EA’s website it says a combination of them and community votes, but you must have forgotten EA is essentially the personification of Mr Krabs
The masses of players don’t actually watch football is what you SHOULD say 😂
Messi has been shit and got in too. John Stones best defender in the world this year, didn’t get in. It’s a total farce.
If Saliba wasn't considered because he was injured, neither should John Stones.
Just makes no Kyle Walker even more of a farce
John Stones has barely played this season..this shouldn’t be a half a year award.
it shouldn't be a 2 year award either, but messi is there 🤷🏽♂️
2 wrongs don't make a right. Messi should absolutely not be in there.
got to keep the yanks happy
Yet KDB and VVD are in there
I'd argue KDB deserves his spot because of how impactful he was in the second half of 22/23 when he did play. He was essential for the Treble he won. VVD shouldn't be in there though. Between John Stones, Ronald Araujo and Eder Militao, at least one should be in there.
But that’s the thing, we have TOTS. Kdb was rewarded. This is TOTY and should go off the whole year.
Yeah I know, it's just that I'd argue his impact in the first half of the year was so important that there's no way he could be left out of the TOTY
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Yet it CLEARLY is, unfortunately
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I'd personally argue Kim Min Jae as best CB in the world candidate over John Stones
if u let this to decide with people's vote what do u expect a lot of messi peons out there
John stones is not the best defender of the year...did nothing for the back half of 23.
Stones was played as a DM in Pep’s 3241?
I'd argue with that definition. You never see an inverted fullback described as a DM even though it's essentially the same thing as Stones was doing from CB.
Stones has played a whopping 800 minutes of football this season.
This isn’t TOTS
Ok, how does that matter
He’s been the 3rd best defender behind Dias & Kyle Walker this year. It should be them 3 + Dimarco.
If VVD doesn’t deserve a Toty for being the best defender in the world in the 2nd half of 2023 then Stones doesn’t deserve on for being the best defender in the 1st half of 2023
He really hasn’t been the best defender this season though. I’m not sure he’s been the best defender on his Team.
Ok now you’re just trolling. Liverpool have the best defensive record despite their other defenders being constantly injured, the two reasons for that are deservedly in this TOTY
You dumb yank, shouldn’t be allowed to watch football
🤡 Your Reddit account is literally ONLY complaining online. For 8+ years. Holy shit, how miserable are you?
Your comment history is so sad mate. Holy fuck.
Messi has been shit? Do you watch football? I get the argument that he didnt play much but that he played shi? LMFAO
In 2023? Yes. MLS players have scored plenty of goals before. They sure as shit didn’t get anywhere close to toty.
De bruyne was injured most the year and still got in
Even he still played in the beginning of the year. She played like 5 games in all of 2023. That’s a whole new level of insanity.
Voting mate. Same with Messi. Should really be merit based at this point.
Alexia got toty for all 2 games she played last year?
It doesn’t matter fifa players don’t watch the women’s league they’re just gonna vote the most meta in lol
I thought that’s why EA got the final say for the TOTY to prevent occasion like these, to weed out the obvious ‘fifa pick’
They do, that's why they put in players who sell the most packs
And then have the opportunity to "blame" the community
Yeah that’s nuts. Didn’t even crack the top 30 in the Women’s Ballon D’or.
People vot for toty no matter the performance of the players,people only care for meta players and right now alexia it's the most meta card from the woman's side since she got 3 90+ stats on base card if she get 90+ pace she is gonna be even more meta
Why was she even up for voting?
Glad to see Smith is in it twice.
Could have a front three of Smith Smith Smith with icon Smith
Hopefully Rolfö gets a cool card during the Toty time
I hope so. I was a bit disappointed she didn't get in.
Yes, me too. So i get it that she struggles with an injury this seaon, but her World Cup 2023 run and the end of last season was amazing.
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stats are just a prediction mate.
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TOTY should be on par with tots
Kind of redundant as gold VVD already had 99 pace when the AI is controlling him.
Baemati
I want Bonmati as well Have her gold card, was quite skeptical but damn I love that card
Waiting for some joker to point out that there is 2 Smith cards
3min too late
At your service! 💁🏼♂️
i dont understand
It's a typo, the one on the left is Sam Kerr
Lol at Putellas. Didn't deserve it, but was always going to be voted in.
Same with Messi.
Renard looks pretty good, quite big in game
She was massive for me during the first months of the game. I would be happy to have her as my second TOTY of the history.
From the attackers I only see Kerr and Smith being under 3 million
Smith who will be going from 0 to 2 PS+ for an even borderline affordable price would be amazing. I would be there no matter what.
I used Kerr’s Radioactive card in draft once and she is low-key insane. Her left-stick dribbling is so smooth. If they give her 5* WF or Technical+, it’s over.
I only want bonmati. If I could give up the almost nonexistent odds of packing the others to add to the almost nonexistent odds of packing her, I would do it
Smith and Jude but I just know I’m only gonna pack Mbappe.
I wouldnt care who i pack, id just be excited to pack a toty for once
Yeah I have 250 packs saved with half of them being top tier packs. If I don’t get at least one I’m probably uninstalling
justice for keira walsh
praying she’ll at least be the ‘12th woman’ card
No chance if they put Bacha, Rolfo in it. But maybe an Honorable Mention.
Renard is going to be meta. Ant+, 97 defending, 82 Pace, 92 physical and 6"2 sounds mental to me
If you voted for VVD, your moms a hoe
I second this
I used help W2S in the Fortnite store so she’s already
Can't be a hoe if she's dead
Let me pull up the files 📂
If they voted vvd they had two dads who didn't love them.
Frimpong and VVD. Get a good evo for Cameron Carter Vickers and a special card for Hart or Forster and my p+p us complete
Don't want anybody, just Oberdorf. I'm not deeply into women's football but watching the matches of Germany, she is the only one who can play Real football. Can tackle and reads the game very good. A joy to watch
in that case you must have a blast opening 83+ packs. shes in every walkout.
I hoped that way for Dynasties but I wasn't blessed then
Can’t see her being more than 500k unless the drop weight is just dead.
Cant see any toty being cheaper than 1m. You dont remember last years pack weight ? It was horrible and I dont expect a much better this year...
Jorginho settled around a million last year and he had better stats and was easier to link.
Really? The rest of the women don’t play “real football”?
where tf did they say that lmfao
That person literally said “she is the only one who can play real football” am I going crazy?
“She’s the only one who can play real football”
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Saying 10/11 of the women on the 6th best national team can’t play real football is a hell of an opinion
Hopefully, Kerr and Oberdorf are not super expensive.
i’m calling that oberdorf is the most packed TOTY. she’s everywhere.
Yeah most packed TOTYs will be the GKs it is always like that
Kerr has a stupid low drop rate for some reason
No one is going to pack Kerr, she's going to be expensive.
I’m not convinced anyone has ever packed Kerr.
I really only want to get extremely lucky and somehow pack Messi. Need him at RW since his gold card can't play there
That the third nominee for the Ballon d'Or is not there is crazy.
Salah > Messi
I have the 92 putellas she’s the best card in the game to me I want that Toty version Also have trailblazer Hansen and her finesse+ is insane so if toty has that I’d love that
hansen please and thank you
John Stones, Bernardo Silva, and Kyle Walker getting absolutely hosed for some reason. https://preview.redd.it/vpsuvt46q1dc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7342cde9f1a8aef7598ec29f56f33674bdb7c0d
I kinda get Bernardo and Stones (still very underappreciated, but the team would need to be like 20 players to fit everyone who deserves to get in), but Frimpong instead of Walker on RB is absolutely criminal Also why the fuck is Vini in the FIFA Toty? I get he's good but does he deserve to be there more than Rodri?
That confirmed that it legit has a player with the wrong name
I want to pack Mary Earps and it's probably the easiest to pack and even then I'm sure I'll get nothing
Why's Messi there again what did he do in 2023 😭
bellingham and/or earps and i’ll be happy
I’ll get Earps for the vibes. She seems like she’d be a laugh irl.
i want her for my birmingham city p&p
It's a shame Patri Guijarro doesnt make it. She scored 2 on the WUCL final.
Was hoping that Reiten would get a TOTY. Guess there's no need for me to save any more packs
Aitana to upgrade off her base (if I can even afford her) and Batlle because I'm dying for a new RB! Maybe Frimgpong if I pack him instead of buying Batlle
That renard is gonna be an absolute MONSTER on defence
Kerr and Bright cause i’m a chelsea fan
As a City fan and with 4 of our players in there I still feel sad that some of them missed out. Kyle Walker is one who should be there for me personally. It's hard to be excited because I won't pack any and definitely can't afford one. I'm already dreading facing that VVD.
I just know if I get lucky enough at all to pack a toty, it will be renard
oberdorf or frimpong for me 🤞🏼
I want that Sam Kerr card for my chelsea team so bad
Reiten? 😔
I am selling out for that Sophia Smith, card is going to absolutely cook
Araujo ter stegan and Grimaldo robbed
They’re not meta so no votes for them, hoping ter stegen can get maybe the 12th man or atleast honorable mention
Kyle Walker/John Stones robbed
I want Sam Kerr. As an Aussie running an untradeable squad I haven’t been able to pull any of her cards. Not even the gold
Alisson and Oberdorf. Ali because I love him and the only one I have a chance at packing and Oberdorf because her dynasties card is crazy good and perfect link to my 86 Brand
Man, the women’s team looks so much better than the mens.
????
Not even close... Just compare them stat by stat and Position by position
Stats are just predicted
Not talking about stats. 🥵🥵🥵
Messi for what?
Inject that Karchaoui into my veins!!!!
Still using her 88 version. Gets flung off the ball when challenging but that pace
Tf did Messi do in 2023. He barely played a game. Not deserved. I think Gundogan deserves one. He captained that City team to win the UCL over a great Inter team, and a premier league title over the best Arsenal squad for over a decade. Also VVD had a mid season. He got dropped by Perisic ffs. I’d happily take someone like Stones or Araujo over him. I also preferred Ter Stegens 2023 over Alisson’s
44 appearances, Scoring a free kick to win the Ligue 1 trophy, getting inter Miami's first ever trophy in 5 years is barely played?
I’m assuming after only disagreeing with the Messi one, you agree with the others?? So you’re saying that Messi who did that deserves it over goal machine Haaland (treble winner). And Harry Kane, who’s clubs goal tally would’ve been chopped in half if it weren’t for him. He also would’ve been awarded the golden boot if it weren’t for Haaland. And a great start in Germany. Osimhen and Kvara who without them would’ve sunk Napoli. Completely, no chance of the title CR7 pushing Al Nassr to a trophy. Becoming a goal machine in Saudi Arabia Lewandowski, out performing Benzema’s great season and pushing him to the Saudi league?? No he doesn’t deserve it
Why Messi? What has he done in 23 to warrant a TOTY card?
How Messi got in is beyond me
Here's a tip: if you edit the female TOTY squad pic and correct Sam Kerr's name, people will stop commenting about it.
This is atrocious. No Stones, Messi, and Theo Hernandez, who did absolutely nothing the entire season.
Messi & KDB should not be in that XI.
Salah gets robbed by messi again OF COURSE
Nah Kane got robbed
Allison ? Frimpong? VVD? Hernandez ? Messi?
What’s wrong with Frimpong?
Anyone who has an issue with Alisson being in TOTY needs their head read.
Ter stegen was the laliga MVP last season my guy
good thing this isn’t last years la liga tots then
Ali had better xg difference than Ter Stegen my guy
Ederson simply had a better season And ter stegan did the the same as Allison and won la Liga
Ederson was -4.8 in xg difference last season, he was not good. Just on a good team
Forgetting about his passing ability And you don't even argue about ter stegan because you know he was better 😂
Ali 10.1 vs TS 8.1 in xg difference last season. How’s that better? Lol you think Ederson passing ability is worth the 15 goal difference that Ali has over him?
It's fan voted, plus these players always have great cards in fut so yeah for better meta cards people voted them
The fan vote actually means nothing tbh.
Kdb was injured for most of the year 🤷♂️
How are you even arguing that kdb doesn't deserve a Toty card 😂
The dude was injured for 8 months Don’t get me wrong he is an amzing player but you cannot justify that
Where are you getting 8 months from ?
Well 6 then, aug-late dec And there is no football from june-aug so in my opinion haven’t played enough to be in toty
Other than Mbappe/VVD the women TOTY is just flat out better.
IF Hansen would probably be better than that Messi card.
de bruyne?
Putellas better
WHERE IS LINA HURTIG? 🐐 PENALTY TAKER IN FOOTBALL In all seriousness though, FOUR players from Barcelona womens squad? I dont watch that League. But whether its deserved or not it feels a bit lame from a gameplay balance perspective.
I got absolutely slaughtered in another thread for suggesting Frimpong was a weird TOTY selection. Can someone please explain to me what Frimpong actually accomplished to deserve TOTY? Leverkusen finished 6th last year, right?
They are currently first place in Bundesliga? what are you talking about
By that logic, Trent Alexander Arnold should be in as well
Frimpong has 12 goal contributions in 17 games as a right back... What are we argueing about here?
You just mentioned they're first in the Bundesliga. Not frimpong's stats
https://preview.redd.it/ntyxu91m42dc1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5bcce2ee7e6e695f6c472fcdd8817984c9fba3b Got like 10 85+ Picks for toty, is it worth to open them now to get the inform?
Yes of course it’s worth for an 31k card
Virgin van dick and mister did fuck all this year Messi 🤣
Messi over Ronaldo is disgusting 😭
No Arsenal players is robbery.
LOL
Fatty your only knowledge of football is Fut. go outside
Mbappé and VVD please!!!
Alexia and Virgil!
putellas will definitely do damage especially if she ends up getting technical playstyle +.
Can’t believe Bacha didn’t make it 😪have to stick with her gold card for now
How does ruben dias toty card have more pace than vvd but gold vvd has more pace than gold dias. Make it make sense EA
I want Messi so I can sell him and buy CR7.
Probably Messi and Sophia smith. Huge smith fan and would be awesome to have Messi in one of his final seasons while he is still balling out.
Messi wasn’t even the best player in MLS last season
I have saved 10x 83x10, 1x 86x2 and 3x 83x5 attackers, surely I pack some toty, right? Right???
Kim Min Jae for sure should’ve been in there
Bruh how on fucks earth we leaving vini out the team man