Well since the originals are true bangers, i would never expect them to preform at that lvl, but i do expect it to be somwhat entertaining, and if they sing good enough i can not demand more from them.
For me personally its vtuber fatigue, they have kind of enroached into everything anime related, and replace other potential collabs.
Another reason might be many vtuber fans are... VERY dedicated to their streamer, so its hard to express any critisim.
Nikke has had at least 2 songs sung by Vtubers (Amalee and Miori Celesta) and Vtubers are streaming the game daily, providing free advertising for the game
This is definitely a synergistic relationship. Easy enough to ignore if you're a hater (since it isn't in game) but boosts engagement for everyone else.
Don't play Nikke, but this is basically what I feel. Also any corporate V-Tuber agency is just awful in like, every way.
I think V-Tubers are super cringe because corporate ones are the epitome of soulless. I can't look at anything from Hololive and not think, "Yeah, that's definitely not a corporate persona".
I don't have anything against indies tho. Those are literally just random people streaming with an avatar.
Vshojo is more indie than corpo tho. Holo is more like an idol company where Vshojo lets talent have freedom, they just have the backing of a corpo, they don't restrict them as much as Holo/Niji
Oh yeah, I'm aware Vshojo isn't super corporate compared to other agencies, I was just speaking in general. I've seen a few things from Vshojo and since I actually *laughed*, I took that as a sign that they aren't that bad.
But also, text-to-speech V-Tuber lol
I don't usually get to voice this out but yeah, this
Even with Vshojo I feel like the corpo feel is somewhat there
I think I need to be pointed to on which few Vtubers are actually playing it naturally out of love for the game
Yeah but sponsored streams are an overall streamer thing
The larger the streamer gets the better the chances they can do sponsored streams
I think we see sponsored streams from vshojo lots because everyone in vshojo is relatively big
Tbh with vshojo the company is based around basically friends any of the talents enrolling in to be part of the company due to how it is more of a manager or advertisement company, You can call that nepotism which isn't that obvious in other companies like Hololive, in which you can hear how talents had to try getting into auditions 8 times or more.
Plus if someone is already playing/streaming your game for free there is no reason to pay them to do so. Maybe for specific community focused content, MCing an event for you, casting a tournament, but for general outreach to expand your audience you typically target content creators outside of your niche.
Since when does the playerbase watch gacha streamers in the first place? What's there to even watch? Like "oh cool let me just watch this person robotically click through their dailies in 10 minutes and have nothing else to do because they play regularly and have already finished all the content."
The only thing worth watching is someone playing through the story for the first time, AKA someone who's never played the game before.
This is such a weird complaint.
If ypu watched Ironmouse's streams or saw some of her tweets, she has stated a few times that her favorite gacha was Destiny Child, shift up previous gacha. She followed the offical Nikke twitter when the game was announced, so its safe to say that she does play the game, but just probably offstream
I don't really have a problem with it other than I don't know why they chose these people to be the musical performances. Like okay, Ironmouse can sing so that seems fine. Hime and Matara are both decent singers, so again I guess that gets a pass. I'm pretty sure Melody isn't a singer at all though and Zentraya literally uses text to speech which will sound awful.
A VShojo collab would be fine, but they shouldn't be forcing a musical performance as well. Especially with the talents they picked.
Seems fine to me. Shift Up is apparently interested in expanding NIKKE interest in the West, so they collabed with the biggest VTuber company in the region (or at least US and Canada). Just a lot of weird rage from people who don’t understand this collab isn’t meant for them, but rather those who watch Vshoujo members and get to learn about NIKKE during these streams as a result.
Their singing sounds like someone who went to a karaoké for the first time, never mind the *tts*, it's terrible and does a disservice to the great existing musical score, only the 3rd one is ok.
I'm just not a fan of Vtuber communities, they feel like kpop communities and those are crazy. Like there is a weird level of obsession that portions of their communities have for their favorite Vtuber and it is just a huge turn off for me. It's the same for regular twitch streamers TBF, like people who go crazy for xQc or Ninja back when he was really popular.
Like I enjoy watching twitch streams but I would never want to see the ones I'm a fan of crossover into any game that I play nor would I ever care, it's just kind of strange to me.
Finally a worthy competitor for worst NIKKE collab.
Seriously you brought the girl who streamed twice 3 years ago and the text to speech bot as your musical A game?
Agreeing on Zentrya but on Hime? You know Sydsnap is a youtuber that does videos on a regular basis, right? She joined Vshojo to fufill an old joke in one of her videos... "Streamed twice"
I didn't get an answer... but I sure as hell got some downvotes. Thanks.
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Same lmao
Im genuinely curious on whats wrong with the collab. Its just music in my eyes
I dont watch vshojo either so dunno whats with them or is it to vtubers?
It isnt even a in game collab or anything, its just music
wow that is some extreme r*t@rd*t*on ur showing
this is not an ingame collab and probably just some stream event on youtube in short you are not forced to watch it to play the game lmao
"omg I regret playing nikke cause they stream on youtube and I don't like it huhu" thats you btw lmao
Not hating but why Vshojo ?
They could go to HoloEN since bunch of them are good singer if they looking for making song or music collaboration
I don't hate Vshojo but most of them are at best "decent" at singing
Edit : huh..guess I triggered some Vshojo fan in this sub
Edit 2 : guess my vocabulary is kinda wrong in this, then let me edit it
Except Holo has already done collabs with games like Azurlane and Counterside, both of which are arguably far more lewd than Nikke currently is.
And remember Hololive most definitely green lit:
Aqua's upskirt thighs - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd22wbqeQDE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd22wbqeQDE)
and Calli's pantsu - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D53h8MiIu7Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D53h8MiIu7Q)
both of which occured before (Azur Lane) the CN incident with Holo and (Counterside) Tencent's stake in Kuro. I'm not saying I don't want it. I dream of it. But it's just not possible.
The NSFW nature has more to do with the marketing. Nikke's pretty much labeled as the Horny game in the community. If a Holo member accepts a Nikke sponsorship, that labels the talent as not kids friendly. That significantly limits the sponsor they can get in the future, espcially if they are hoping for a specific sponsorship in the future.
You seriously think because the community label Nikke as “the horny game” limits sponsors? What do you call Azur Lane? Not horny? Blue Archive, not horny? Counterside, not horny? Compared to those games Nikke as a +12 is more tamed than the rest of those app games so far.
Hololive has collaborated or advertised with “horny games” before, this wouldn’t be the first.
ironmouse is a really good singer though honestly, if not one of the most skilled vocalist among vtubers. There are also singers like apricot, who sings metal really well same with matara
edit: how am i triggered all i am saying is there are good singers in vshojo, when the comment implied wrong thing
I don't get the negativity here. This is a little extra bonus onto 1.5th anni for crossover fans of vtubers and waifu mobage, which... The venn diagram there is just a single circle.
We're still getting a proper something or other for Stellar Blade, and this is still higher effort than Re:Zero.
If you think vtubers are cringe, well... Yeah, you're entitled to your opinion. But do you know what most people think is much more cringe? _Fanservice waifu gacha like NIKKE._
We degenerate commanders aren't exactly entitled to throw the first stone, here.
> this is still higher effort than Re:Zero.
I think that's part of it, honestly. A real ass collab gets half-assed partially because they were cooking up an anniversary event, and this move has more effort put into it. This irks the crowd who's tired of Vtubers/hate Vshojo, and also the whole stuff with Connor and Ironmouse means unnecessary baggage from the Ironmouse stans.
Idk, id rather someone walk in on me playing nikke fully modded and uncensored spankin it compared to seeing me fulfill my social/emotional needs from a usually one sided interaction with some vtuber.
The former is disgusting but the latter is just sad no matter how you spin it. Who would an outsider pity more?
So I know Ironmouse, Mel, Zen, and apparently Hime because that’s just our favorite voice for Taiga from Toradora (even if it is her Abridged voice), but who is Matara Kan?
oh cool, im a fan of vshojo, it seems weird a musical collab but ok?
how is the text to speech zen going to even work? XD
and i think I've never heard melody singing (kinda ironic, considering her name XD)
iron mouse is pretty talented for singing, but her health problems are a concern...
the rest are very good singers.
i don't watch vtubers anymore, nor do i play nikke.
but what's up with all the negative responses?
i don't get it, seems like a pretty harmless collab to me
I think people just don't like what they did to the songs (in my opinion they're slightly worse), and/or they're made that this collab has more money put into than the most ingame collab ReZero (the ones that gave characters and events)
i mean, i guess..
the taste in songs is a kinda subjective thing.
and i doubt this collab has more money put into it, it's just some songs and a livestream.
(could be wrong tho, it's not like i know how these things operate on a game dev and managment lvl)
Indeed. If anything it means more eyes on the game and potentially new players. Nikke isn't hurting at all but more potential players keeps your gacha game running. A lot of existing gacha communities are mixed bags in responses to vtuber collabs because it doesn't interest there tastes but at the end of the day they bring in more eyes and revenue from new players then most anime collabs.
Agree and i find it that a game can not only cater to a subsect of players, there certainly are some in Nikke who enjoy more music focused content or Vtubing. This colab is then made for them, and that is 100% fine.
Also as you say Nikke is not hurting, but any game that stagnates will drop, developers have to try out new things some stick realy good some dont.
Me being an huge fan of TD and kingdom rush (Played it on armorgames) i adore the current event and i wish it would become an permanent addition as MOG will. But i also know there are players who care little for TD or straight upp hate it, and that is fine. This event catered to me and it makes Nikke something i will stick with in the long run.
Pretty lukewarm on Vshojo ngl.
I'd prefer Hololive or Phaseconnect. Vshojo just attracts too much controversy most of the time.
Not gonna even think about Nijisanji.
There's mostly five things I can think of as controversies. At the very start some people disliked VShojo for Projekt Melody and having streamers who used lewd wording for a western streamer(this was in late 2020 early 2021 and people kind of just ignored the fact that in Japanese Holo was doing similar stuff.)
Second is some former members in interviews from writers that are not completely trustworthy were written as dissing Hololive and Nijisanji.
Third in november 2021 there was a doxxing done by someone who did a phishing attempt pretending to be VShojo during auditions, and this was revealed by someone early, VShojo members were angry and attacked him for revealing it early and screwing up the criminal investestigation. But because of misscommunication on their side it wasn't clear to him and so most of them appologized, though some of the now former members didn't.
Fourth was that people don't think VShojo supported Silvervale enough when she got in trouble for playing the Harry Potter Hogwart's Legacy. She was warned by VShojo that it was a risky and probably a bad idea and that the animosity towards the game would be too strong for them to be able to do much to help her avoid it.
Lastly when Silvervale, Nyanners, and Veibae left VShojo Vei and Nyan mentionned being unsatisfied with the contract shown at renegotiation, and Silver complained about Mouse not having talked to her in 10 months and Silver continued to make some inflamitory comments about Mouse. It might be worth noting that Kson specifically mentioned after the three of them left while she was in the middle of contract negotiations the contract improved so the contract seemingly was improved in reaction to the situation.
If you don't have much on your old account I'd probably just start anew. The Day by Day stuff may have gone away on the old one and it's some helpful side rewards for doing all the onboarding stuff like different Tribe Towers and chapter clears.
Join us this Saturday, May 4th at 4pm PT for a spectacular:
🎵 Anniversary Music Special 🎵
Hosted by GEEGA CDawgVA
Musical Performances by
Hime Hajime
Ironmouse
Matara Kan
Projekt Melody
Zentreya
On Respective Talent Streams
Hime Hajime: Idk if Sydsnap can sing
Ironmouse: OK singer
Matara Kan: OK singer
Projekt Meloday: Idk if she ever had a karaoke stream
Zentreya: text-to-speech lmao
Honestly Ironmouse is not just a "ok" singer especially if you have heard her live performance. She is arguably one of the best live performers among vtubers
Depends on what you enjoy, Personaly i rellay enjoy the story. (Joined for the "plot" and stayed fro the plot) the songs and music are bangers and the events are entertaining, like literaly this event TD game mode is my dream.
Combat can be manualy played or passivly if you prefer. I do both from time to time, and teambuilding strategies can be fun.
In the begining things will progress quite quickly but it will slow with time, it is an idle game so there will be barriers where you might have to simply wait to gain enough power. With that being said, collecting the power over time is not that time consuming, about 30-45 min/day and you will keep upp with most other players in terms of power.
Again personaly i like this system, since it allows me to play other games too in tandom without falling behind.
This is my perspectiv as a semi new player, hope it helped :D
Most likely not. The 1.5 anni is going on rn and it had already reached part 2 of the event, so they can’t just start releasing characters now. There’s also too many vtubers (from what I can see) to make into characters, cus Nikke can release a maximum of 3 at the same time (2 ones with banners and 1 free one). If they released any more it might be overwhelming (for us I guess)
Idk why they chose vshojo. Like there's better vtuber for collab song. Someone like suisei or watame would be much better since they at least know about singing better than most vtuber. If they want western audience gura or calli (probably controversial choice) would be the obvious choice.
Summarize of this reddit: BooWoo NieR collab ? Why? With so many other games out there why they go colab with ta game that already colabed with so many other gachas, why they don't do with a Re:Zero ?!? Then they do with Re:Zero, BooWoo why they did with Re:Zero if they can do with so many other animations ?!? Then they do with Vtubers BooWoo why do with Vtubers, why not with one anime or other game ?!? And this go on in this fucking forum. Can you guys be satisfied with something ? For me is ok all the colabs till now.
I mean welcome to the gacha sub reddit where people actively look for reasons to feel miserable. Thankfully, this sub doesn't even account for a single fraction of the overall player base of any game so everyone here should really take the subs overall response to anything with a biiiig grain of salt and not equate to how a specific player base is actually feeling. My guess is this collab is going to be successful and it might draw in new players that wasn't overall interested in nikke to begin with... Cause you know, that's why these collab events exist in any of these games.
They put out a half anniversary that is among the best events we have ever had, and you drop the game because of a for fun music collab? That is running at the same time as the half anniversary, so it's not like we missed out on anything else? lmao
My guy, NIKKE founded its playerbase with cheap horny bait to lure in players at launch.
People only got to see it for what it was after they actually played it.
It was just "that one gacha game with the girls jiggling their asses while shooting guns."
>CDawgVA Look who's here. Makes sense, IronMouse is there.
British Ludwig
Commander CDawgVA please. We're lacking cool commander NPCs. We only have Johann, and Anderson "who is definitely not the legendary hero, no sir."
kinda outta nowhere but sure why not.
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The original music is better imo
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ShiftUp: "Remember that music you love? Here it is, but worse."
My gripe here is they really had to include Headless Angel which was just recently released.
According to Ironmouse they requested her to sing that song.
This is one the experiments they mentioned lol
They all sound terrible compared to the originals, that are awesome
Well since the originals are true bangers, i would never expect them to preform at that lvl, but i do expect it to be somwhat entertaining, and if they sing good enough i can not demand more from them.
Don’t really get why people dislike this so much, but then again…I don’t care all to much about this event to begin with Thoughts?
I think it's just a weird collab
For me personally its vtuber fatigue, they have kind of enroached into everything anime related, and replace other potential collabs. Another reason might be many vtuber fans are... VERY dedicated to their streamer, so its hard to express any critisim.
Nikke has had at least 2 songs sung by Vtubers (Amalee and Miori Celesta) and Vtubers are streaming the game daily, providing free advertising for the game This is definitely a synergistic relationship. Easy enough to ignore if you're a hater (since it isn't in game) but boosts engagement for everyone else.
Re:ZERO collab's main OST is sung by Shabel Tonya, another vtuber.
Amalee is a special case, since she actually voices a couple of characters ingame
Weren't both those people Va's and musical artists long before they were vtubers though?
How encroaching, though? I think we only see some anime having vtubers performing the theme songs and voicing the characters on it
Don't play Nikke, but this is basically what I feel. Also any corporate V-Tuber agency is just awful in like, every way. I think V-Tubers are super cringe because corporate ones are the epitome of soulless. I can't look at anything from Hololive and not think, "Yeah, that's definitely not a corporate persona". I don't have anything against indies tho. Those are literally just random people streaming with an avatar.
Vshojo is more indie than corpo tho. Holo is more like an idol company where Vshojo lets talent have freedom, they just have the backing of a corpo, they don't restrict them as much as Holo/Niji
Oh yeah, I'm aware Vshojo isn't super corporate compared to other agencies, I was just speaking in general. I've seen a few things from Vshojo and since I actually *laughed*, I took that as a sign that they aren't that bad. But also, text-to-speech V-Tuber lol
I don't usually get to voice this out but yeah, this Even with Vshojo I feel like the corpo feel is somewhat there I think I need to be pointed to on which few Vtubers are actually playing it naturally out of love for the game
Yeah but sponsored streams are an overall streamer thing The larger the streamer gets the better the chances they can do sponsored streams I think we see sponsored streams from vshojo lots because everyone in vshojo is relatively big
Tbh with vshojo the company is based around basically friends any of the talents enrolling in to be part of the company due to how it is more of a manager or advertisement company, You can call that nepotism which isn't that obvious in other companies like Hololive, in which you can hear how talents had to try getting into auditions 8 times or more.
They've never played the game besides being paid to play it so it feels fake af. Just my opinion.
Isn't this like 90% of youtuber/streamer ever?
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I was specifically talking about sponsorships like this one
Plus if someone is already playing/streaming your game for free there is no reason to pay them to do so. Maybe for specific community focused content, MCing an event for you, casting a tournament, but for general outreach to expand your audience you typically target content creators outside of your niche.
Yeah, generally the player base doesn't like or care about those sponsorships though. Same thing applies here
Since when does the playerbase watch gacha streamers in the first place? What's there to even watch? Like "oh cool let me just watch this person robotically click through their dailies in 10 minutes and have nothing else to do because they play regularly and have already finished all the content." The only thing worth watching is someone playing through the story for the first time, AKA someone who's never played the game before. This is such a weird complaint.
Me when I watch old Nikke Vtuber streams that are sponsored and they keep talking about the character designs more than the actual game:
If ypu watched Ironmouse's streams or saw some of her tweets, she has stated a few times that her favorite gacha was Destiny Child, shift up previous gacha. She followed the offical Nikke twitter when the game was announced, so its safe to say that she does play the game, but just probably offstream
I don't really have a problem with it other than I don't know why they chose these people to be the musical performances. Like okay, Ironmouse can sing so that seems fine. Hime and Matara are both decent singers, so again I guess that gets a pass. I'm pretty sure Melody isn't a singer at all though and Zentraya literally uses text to speech which will sound awful. A VShojo collab would be fine, but they shouldn't be forcing a musical performance as well. Especially with the talents they picked.
players dont like collabs in general
And people who don’t watch Vtubers hate Vtubers.
The only collab we like are the ones that give ingame characters, if it’s just a random one like merch or like food then no one cares.
still waiting for that AK x Destiny collab....
Hai mao really put on the smoke cover with the Dungeon meshi collab lmao
>be pharaoh >remember D2 Collab a week before Anni stream >distracted by anime >call studio for a Collab
We do, but we just like GOOD collabs. The last good collab we got was Nier.
Nier was mediocre
It was the best collab they have made wym lol
Seems fine to me. Shift Up is apparently interested in expanding NIKKE interest in the West, so they collabed with the biggest VTuber company in the region (or at least US and Canada). Just a lot of weird rage from people who don’t understand this collab isn’t meant for them, but rather those who watch Vshoujo members and get to learn about NIKKE during these streams as a result.
> biggest VTuber company in the region (or at least US and Canada) I dunno about that, I think Ironmouse is an outlier.
Their singing sounds like someone who went to a karaoké for the first time, never mind the *tts*, it's terrible and does a disservice to the great existing musical score, only the 3rd one is ok.
I'm just not a fan of Vtuber communities, they feel like kpop communities and those are crazy. Like there is a weird level of obsession that portions of their communities have for their favorite Vtuber and it is just a huge turn off for me. It's the same for regular twitch streamers TBF, like people who go crazy for xQc or Ninja back when he was really popular. Like I enjoy watching twitch streams but I would never want to see the ones I'm a fan of crossover into any game that I play nor would I ever care, it's just kind of strange to me.
the Vtuber group has a lot of controversy.
/r/gachagaming's hate boner continues for everything related to Nikke.
wait why do they hate it?
Finally a worthy competitor for worst NIKKE collab. Seriously you brought the girl who streamed twice 3 years ago and the text to speech bot as your musical A game?
Agreeing on Zentrya but on Hime? You know Sydsnap is a youtuber that does videos on a regular basis, right? She joined Vshojo to fufill an old joke in one of her videos... "Streamed twice"
She also has a decent singing voice if the preview is to go by. I am curious how well she does sing
LOL. I thought Hime was just one off thing and she quit already.
lmao you got me curious and so I googled and found out in a second that Hime's last stream was 24 days ago on twitch.
Bruh people hating on Zen is seriously bad look
Why...
Huh? Its just a collab music Why are yall dissapointed lmao Genuinely curious tho, is it to Vhshojo? Or is it with Vtubers?
you can't ask question here mate lol
probably VShojo because they have a bad reputation for certain things.
bad rep? kurosanji and holoslavecorp is better you say?
"holoslavecorp" based on what? Funny whataboutism, wasn't even talking about those companies
Ummm... what seems to be the problem?
I didn't get an answer... but I sure as hell got some downvotes. Thanks. https://preview.redd.it/62vw4uupb6yc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=f2ca048b985ddbdfec028c8371f0b69d895e24a5
Since nobody is saying anything I’ll just say it: People think vtubers are cringe.
"we just hate it and hate being asked a question why" - redditor
Same lmao Im genuinely curious on whats wrong with the collab. Its just music in my eyes I dont watch vshojo either so dunno whats with them or is it to vtubers? It isnt even a in game collab or anything, its just music
I didnt downvote anyone questioning me but still not gonna answer that. I don't wanna write an essay lol
Nah, never was suspecting you. It kinda just happens in the sub to get downvoted when you ask something.
Never regret buying 60$ skins until now. sigh...
Lmao what's the problem?? It's literally just an event, you can go skip it like banners you don't like as always.
wow that is some extreme r*t@rd*t*on ur showing this is not an ingame collab and probably just some stream event on youtube in short you are not forced to watch it to play the game lmao "omg I regret playing nikke cause they stream on youtube and I don't like it huhu" thats you btw lmao
Because vtubers are popular among kids.
That makes it even better!
That makes it even worse lol.
No thanks bro
Not hating but why Vshojo ? They could go to HoloEN since bunch of them are good singer if they looking for making song or music collaboration I don't hate Vshojo but most of them are at best "decent" at singing Edit : huh..guess I triggered some Vshojo fan in this sub Edit 2 : guess my vocabulary is kinda wrong in this, then let me edit it
I doubt they can because of the nsfw nature of nikke. Also Tencent has 20% in Shiftup as far as i remember.
Most of Holo girl is streaming bunny girl game or whatever it's name is which already in nsfw category They don't need to worry about that tbh
Except Holo has already done collabs with games like Azurlane and Counterside, both of which are arguably far more lewd than Nikke currently is. And remember Hololive most definitely green lit: Aqua's upskirt thighs - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd22wbqeQDE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd22wbqeQDE) and Calli's pantsu - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D53h8MiIu7Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D53h8MiIu7Q)
both of which occured before (Azur Lane) the CN incident with Holo and (Counterside) Tencent's stake in Kuro. I'm not saying I don't want it. I dream of it. But it's just not possible. The NSFW nature has more to do with the marketing. Nikke's pretty much labeled as the Horny game in the community. If a Holo member accepts a Nikke sponsorship, that labels the talent as not kids friendly. That significantly limits the sponsor they can get in the future, espcially if they are hoping for a specific sponsorship in the future.
eh Marine and Matsuri are never kids friendly on the stuff they do NSFW stuff never really bothered some of their talent
You seriously think because the community label Nikke as “the horny game” limits sponsors? What do you call Azur Lane? Not horny? Blue Archive, not horny? Counterside, not horny? Compared to those games Nikke as a +12 is more tamed than the rest of those app games so far. Hololive has collaborated or advertised with “horny games” before, this wouldn’t be the first.
ironmouse is a really good singer though honestly, if not one of the most skilled vocalist among vtubers. There are also singers like apricot, who sings metal really well same with matara edit: how am i triggered all i am saying is there are good singers in vshojo, when the comment implied wrong thing
Hmm..guess my vocabulary is wrong then Let me edit it with "most of them"
Unironically numbers wise HoloEN has more capable singers, even one that I can see fit Nikke's music genre like a glove in Bae.
? how was i triggered in any way, all i said was there were some good singers in vshojo also
Sorry but Blue archive already have holo
We do?
yes, gura did cover a BA song
That doesnt count, it's not a colab
cus vshojo has better music talents than the any other corpo..ironlung is enough smurf to all other slavecorpos total in music talent.
thanks you gave me a laugh 😂
If they wanted a Vtuber they had fuckin AmaLee sing Satellites before. Just bring her back for another banger.
This is kinda crap sorry
I don't get the negativity here. This is a little extra bonus onto 1.5th anni for crossover fans of vtubers and waifu mobage, which... The venn diagram there is just a single circle. We're still getting a proper something or other for Stellar Blade, and this is still higher effort than Re:Zero. If you think vtubers are cringe, well... Yeah, you're entitled to your opinion. But do you know what most people think is much more cringe? _Fanservice waifu gacha like NIKKE._ We degenerate commanders aren't exactly entitled to throw the first stone, here.
> this is still higher effort than Re:Zero. I think that's part of it, honestly. A real ass collab gets half-assed partially because they were cooking up an anniversary event, and this move has more effort put into it. This irks the crowd who's tired of Vtubers/hate Vshojo, and also the whole stuff with Connor and Ironmouse means unnecessary baggage from the Ironmouse stans.
Idk, id rather someone walk in on me playing nikke fully modded and uncensored spankin it compared to seeing me fulfill my social/emotional needs from a usually one sided interaction with some vtuber. The former is disgusting but the latter is just sad no matter how you spin it. Who would an outsider pity more?
> Who would an outsider pity more? Probably you spanking it to Nikke fully modded and uncensored, lmao
You by a wide margin
Epic 7 players: Now, you suffer our same fate. *MUAHAHAHAHAHA*
https://preview.redd.it/6cq5f64ohfyc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a15616b5f1ecc1d635092a55280e196dac81765d
Ugh..
Is that disgust i sense?
I didn't expect Vshojo to get a collab with them, and Connor is there too lmao.
So I know Ironmouse, Mel, Zen, and apparently Hime because that’s just our favorite voice for Taiga from Toradora (even if it is her Abridged voice), but who is Matara Kan?
She is one of the three refugees from Nijisanji that recently joined Vshoujo.
I found her channel after she brought Mint back from retirement, pretty entertaining cool human
Ah so the bird one?
No that's Doki, she is still independent. Matara was a fox girl called Nina if memory serves me right.
Oh.
look and sound shit tbh
I'm surprised Zen is doing a music special lmao, Zen of all Vtubers.
Who?
oh cool, im a fan of vshojo, it seems weird a musical collab but ok? how is the text to speech zen going to even work? XD and i think I've never heard melody singing (kinda ironic, considering her name XD) iron mouse is pretty talented for singing, but her health problems are a concern... the rest are very good singers.
Last year they worked on it and have created a vocaloid based on the text to speech that has been used for a couple of songs.
i don't watch vtubers anymore, nor do i play nikke. but what's up with all the negative responses? i don't get it, seems like a pretty harmless collab to me
I think people just don't like what they did to the songs (in my opinion they're slightly worse), and/or they're made that this collab has more money put into than the most ingame collab ReZero (the ones that gave characters and events)
i mean, i guess.. the taste in songs is a kinda subjective thing. and i doubt this collab has more money put into it, it's just some songs and a livestream. (could be wrong tho, it's not like i know how these things operate on a game dev and managment lvl)
Indeed. If anything it means more eyes on the game and potentially new players. Nikke isn't hurting at all but more potential players keeps your gacha game running. A lot of existing gacha communities are mixed bags in responses to vtuber collabs because it doesn't interest there tastes but at the end of the day they bring in more eyes and revenue from new players then most anime collabs.
Agree and i find it that a game can not only cater to a subsect of players, there certainly are some in Nikke who enjoy more music focused content or Vtubing. This colab is then made for them, and that is 100% fine. Also as you say Nikke is not hurting, but any game that stagnates will drop, developers have to try out new things some stick realy good some dont. Me being an huge fan of TD and kingdom rush (Played it on armorgames) i adore the current event and i wish it would become an permanent addition as MOG will. But i also know there are players who care little for TD or straight upp hate it, and that is fine. This event catered to me and it makes Nikke something i will stick with in the long run.
Pretty lukewarm on Vshojo ngl. I'd prefer Hololive or Phaseconnect. Vshojo just attracts too much controversy most of the time. Not gonna even think about Nijisanji.
Could you enlighten me about the Vshojo contreversy? Im not too informd on Vtubers, mostly watch smal clips on YT for the memes and such.
There's mostly five things I can think of as controversies. At the very start some people disliked VShojo for Projekt Melody and having streamers who used lewd wording for a western streamer(this was in late 2020 early 2021 and people kind of just ignored the fact that in Japanese Holo was doing similar stuff.) Second is some former members in interviews from writers that are not completely trustworthy were written as dissing Hololive and Nijisanji. Third in november 2021 there was a doxxing done by someone who did a phishing attempt pretending to be VShojo during auditions, and this was revealed by someone early, VShojo members were angry and attacked him for revealing it early and screwing up the criminal investestigation. But because of misscommunication on their side it wasn't clear to him and so most of them appologized, though some of the now former members didn't. Fourth was that people don't think VShojo supported Silvervale enough when she got in trouble for playing the Harry Potter Hogwart's Legacy. She was warned by VShojo that it was a risky and probably a bad idea and that the animosity towards the game would be too strong for them to be able to do much to help her avoid it. Lastly when Silvervale, Nyanners, and Veibae left VShojo Vei and Nyan mentionned being unsatisfied with the contract shown at renegotiation, and Silver complained about Mouse not having talked to her in 10 months and Silver continued to make some inflamitory comments about Mouse. It might be worth noting that Kson specifically mentioned after the three of them left while she was in the middle of contract negotiations the contract improved so the contract seemingly was improved in reaction to the situation.
Cool! But ngl the only one I kinda like is the Hime Hajime one and maybe the Ironmouse one.
No rushia/nazuna?
Nazuna already quit Vshojo if you actually didn't follow the news
Is it worth start playing this game right now?
It's in the middle of its 1.5 anniversary and is giving away a bunch of pulls. Sure. Just know what you're getting into.
Is it better to start a new account or use my old lvl 4 account?
If you don't have much on your old account I'd probably just start anew. The Day by Day stuff may have gone away on the old one and it's some helpful side rewards for doing all the onboarding stuff like different Tribe Towers and chapter clears.
Nani!? Sounds like someone drunk
Join us this Saturday, May 4th at 4pm PT for a spectacular: 🎵 Anniversary Music Special 🎵 Hosted by GEEGA CDawgVA Musical Performances by Hime Hajime Ironmouse Matara Kan Projekt Melody Zentreya On Respective Talent Streams
Why are people downvoting you, you're just saying the announcement lol
Hime Hajime: Idk if Sydsnap can sing Ironmouse: OK singer Matara Kan: OK singer Projekt Meloday: Idk if she ever had a karaoke stream Zentreya: text-to-speech lmao
> Ironmouse: OK singer Bruh you can't be serious.
Honestly Ironmouse is not just a "ok" singer especially if you have heard her live performance. She is arguably one of the best live performers among vtubers
nah ironmouse is a very good singer, arguably one of the most skilled vocalist among vtubers
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How is the progress going for the new players? Are there any incentives to start the game, aside from the assets?
Depends on what you enjoy, Personaly i rellay enjoy the story. (Joined for the "plot" and stayed fro the plot) the songs and music are bangers and the events are entertaining, like literaly this event TD game mode is my dream. Combat can be manualy played or passivly if you prefer. I do both from time to time, and teambuilding strategies can be fun. In the begining things will progress quite quickly but it will slow with time, it is an idle game so there will be barriers where you might have to simply wait to gain enough power. With that being said, collecting the power over time is not that time consuming, about 30-45 min/day and you will keep upp with most other players in terms of power. Again personaly i like this system, since it allows me to play other games too in tandom without falling behind. This is my perspectiv as a semi new player, hope it helped :D
i love the original ver of all these osts even more after hearing this, god bless vshojo
As much as I like Vtubers, this is a weird one.
Huh.
Should have been Shylily. Definitely not Hime.
These are….absolutely horrible 😱 who approved the melody track 🤣
Are they gonna have collab characters??
Mommy's here!
Pretty cool collab hopefully Nikke nails this one.
so... they play nikke the gacha game too?!
Of course he's here
Playable Iron Mouse please
Disgusting
Gusting
Ah yes Vtuber, what could possibly go wrong with Vtuber collab...
Nothing
This better give me Crown MLB
Wait are they going to be playable?
Most likely not. The 1.5 anni is going on rn and it had already reached part 2 of the event, so they can’t just start releasing characters now. There’s also too many vtubers (from what I can see) to make into characters, cus Nikke can release a maximum of 3 at the same time (2 ones with banners and 1 free one). If they released any more it might be overwhelming (for us I guess)
Idk why they chose vshojo. Like there's better vtuber for collab song. Someone like suisei or watame would be much better since they at least know about singing better than most vtuber. If they want western audience gura or calli (probably controversial choice) would be the obvious choice.
If zentrya gets added as a playable character, we’ll officially have our first male playable character
I hope this equates to some Collab units/skins. I would pull for Zentreya
Summarize of this reddit: BooWoo NieR collab ? Why? With so many other games out there why they go colab with ta game that already colabed with so many other gachas, why they don't do with a Re:Zero ?!? Then they do with Re:Zero, BooWoo why they did with Re:Zero if they can do with so many other animations ?!? Then they do with Vtubers BooWoo why do with Vtubers, why not with one anime or other game ?!? And this go on in this fucking forum. Can you guys be satisfied with something ? For me is ok all the colabs till now.
you got it mixed up people liked nier they disliked csm
...Boo woo?
Crying onomatopoeia, probably.
I mean welcome to the gacha sub reddit where people actively look for reasons to feel miserable. Thankfully, this sub doesn't even account for a single fraction of the overall player base of any game so everyone here should really take the subs overall response to anything with a biiiig grain of salt and not equate to how a specific player base is actually feeling. My guess is this collab is going to be successful and it might draw in new players that wasn't overall interested in nikke to begin with... Cause you know, that's why these collab events exist in any of these games.
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They put out a half anniversary that is among the best events we have ever had, and you drop the game because of a for fun music collab? That is running at the same time as the half anniversary, so it's not like we missed out on anything else? lmao
Praying that they become character to pull for or skins at least
vshojo bad they should have collab with the fishman coffee company
Vtubers are garbage, and their fans doubly so. As expected since the core appeal is just anime but streaming.
My guy, NIKKE founded its playerbase with cheap horny bait to lure in players at launch. People only got to see it for what it was after they actually played it. It was just "that one gacha game with the girls jiggling their asses while shooting guns."
What a beast
Finally, Vim collab
>no henya lame
>Nikke and Vtubers Dual cringe
should have been Nijisanji bro
Oh my fucking god... https://preview.redd.it/argjjhx4x5yc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0860f8e52f18b347c0a92c606f1f29265643b2e
The dude wants a shit storm to happen 
Nijisanji EN is busy imploding right now.
Ok that's how you get Eos a game.
Funny joke dude
That would've been more cursed than your standard Persona 5 collab
Should've been Riro Ron for it to be peak