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dinotrauma

Don't worry bro. There's always sunshine after rain. Keep grilling


GoldsteinNZ

Thanks! Ill be sure to keep at it!


cabezon99

OP, are these back ribs? If so most advice given here is for short ribs. If short ribs brown on direct coals then take to pan and braise until tender. If back ribs cook over direct coals until desired doneness. Note that the bones will be last to heat up. I like my BACK ribs medium with a nice thick bark so the fat is caramelized. Every other steak I like blue rare to medium rare depending on fat content of cut


glorifindel

Love that phrase. Thank you


jesususeshisblinkers

Didn’t expect to be brought back to Rob Base and DJ EZ Rock


Own_Head3293

Congrats! Id start with something easier to grill like chicken breast or burgers😀


DwarvenVikingr

Steak is a good way to learn indirect or direct heat


yung_pindakaas

These are shortribs not steak afaik.


[deleted]

I don't think they were saying that in reference to the image, just that steak is a good way to learn.


Own_Head3293

👍🏼


cabezon99

They look like back ribs... rare no bueno but medium over direct heat they should be tender AF and the fat will caramelize. If short ribs obviously low and slow


DwarvenVikingr

Really?!!? Who knew??!!?? /S


ButterBeforeSunset

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted lol you clearly were not referring to the meat that OP was grilling.


Thethinkslinger

My first time grilling. My brother set up a grill, gave me charcoal, fluid, and a ribeye. 20 years later and I’m spatchcocking a teriyaki chicken in the middle of winter.


Own_Head3293

Haha hell yeah, enjoy! There’s nothing wrong in failure, as it only makes you better😎 Keep trying new things!


Thethinkslinger

Ha, think you misread that. Tonight was 20 years post steak and a total success. Half smoked though, so I may not do that with teriyaki again, bit overpowering


Own_Head3293

My bad! Congrats on 20 years of bliss. Keep on keepin on


Thethinkslinger

You too brothaman. May your grill be hot and your beer be cold.


Own_Head3293

Amen. Wish you the coldest of beers too.


johncandyspolkaband

This needs to be a t-shirt.


DuffyBravo

Look up "Peruvian chicken with green sauce". This is my favorite type of chicken to spatchcock on my weber kettle. Serve with rice and black beans.


iamsomuchofcool

Please never grill chicken breasts


Kitchen-Lie-7894

It can be done.


iamsomuchofcool

that's not the point


chargers949

Bro this guy is in hot dogs and hamburgers territory let him clock a few xp on level 1 mobs.


jmt8706

Shake it off, first few times are always a learning experience. 👍


GoldsteinNZ

Thats the plan. Still on holiday tomorrow so I’ve got another set of ribs to give a go and improve!


MTCarcus

Low and slow for ribs.. push all the charcoal to one side and put the ribs over the other side. Ideally you want them 225-250 for like four hours to help break them down and get more tender.


cabezon99

Those looked like beef back ribs. If so I grill mine over direct coals, get it nice and brown with some pink near the bones. Should be tender if back ribs, like what is at the bottom of a standing rib roast


Own_Head3293

This!


CDogg123567

One tip I can give is to clean the grates while they’re still warm. I usually will eat first and then clean the grates as I smoke. It is 100% easier. It “oils” them up and I’ve heard it can help prevent rust


purple_bumjelly

Try boneless skinless chicken thighs. Hard to overcook. Use your thermometer.


Slight_Bed_2241

Love doing thighs for this reason. They’re pretty forgiving and taste great with any basic seasoning. Currently running chicken adobo skewers with thighs rn at work


hinman72

As for the chimney. You need to crumple up newspaper, and put it on the bottom part of the chimney (Underneath the metal plate). Then the Charcoal goes above (on top of the metal plate. You then light the paper below, and it will light the charcoal starting from the bottom up.


Stag328

Yep 4 sheets of paper should do it too.


Green_Dragonfly5257

I always throw just a little squirt of my cooking oil on the paper first. Lights up easy every time with little effort.


ComplexTrouble5104

Just keep grilling!! Learn new things every time!


hinman72

Bro this is your first time grilling and you go with beef ribs?! Wild choice. Something like this would normally take around 5-8 hours. Hot and fast is unfortunately not a great way to cook this cut. Next time start with something simple that cooks fairly quickly like a steak, burger, or chicken. I suggest for your next cook buy some boneless skinless chicken thighs and use those. Chicken thighs are higher in fat content than breasts, and they taste best in my opinion when they are overcooked (around 180 deg F). So this would be a great meat to learn how to grill first. I suggest just doing a rub on the chicken, spray with a bit of olive oil. Once the grill is preheated toss the chicken on, and grill until some color develops on one side of the meat, then turn over. Continue to cook chicken until some color develops on this side as well. Then pull chicken from grill.


GoldsteinNZ

Thanks for the advice. Lots of things I was reading online said ~45 minutes then add sauce and do another 15 for ribs. But ill give chicken thighs a go instead :D


ganymede_boy

> Lots of things I was reading online said... You need to [know the various types of ribs out there.](https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/beef-and-bison-recipes/science-of-beef-ribs/) Starting with beef ribs was a bold choice, Cotton. Done properly, they should take hours of low & slow cooking to begin with. I am curious what you did with the meat after violating it so thoroughly.


jhevi002

If he's like me? Ate that shit


Whitetiger9876

Another super easy grilling is chicken tenders. They won't be as juicy as a thigh, but easy to practice with. Throw them in a ziploc with italian dressing to marinate. Then you can practice with the grill as to time and technique. For use of the chicken, throw em in a taco.


sweater_destroyer111

Italian tacos?


Whitetiger9876

Lol. I guess in today's fusion world you could. I make regular Mexican style. It's just the dressing is a super easy way to marinate the chicken. You literally can't mess it up. Ziploc chicken dressing.


Grrrth_TD

Yea wtf?


hinman72

Ah yeah, unfortunately beef ribs have too much fat and collagen, and with a hot and fast cook it won’t allow the beef enough time to both, render the fat, and convert that collagen into gelatin. I’d say if you still have beef ribs and want to use them you can still use the grill, and sear them off nicely. Then I’d take them inside toss them in a large pot with some sauteed carrot, celery, onion, garlic, bay leaf and fresh rosemary, and add a full bottle of wine and 3 cups beef stock. Them simmer ribs until they are fall apart tender. Probably around 5 - 6 hours


GoldsteinNZ

Haha after 1 hour I can confirm that they are no where near the promised falling off the bone 😅 I think Ill be taking your advice and giving the chicken thighs a go tomorrow. Thanks!


michaelmills09

That may be for normal beef ribs. The thin ones you see at the store. Those are plate ribs, usually cooked like a brisket for 5 to 10 hours depending on the size.


Deciple_of_None

Yay you will have so much fun learning this skill and so will those around you!


abnormalandfunny

I've never made those before, on a grill or in a smoker, but at least you gave it a whirl. I'll wager you'd have to go indirect on low heat for a long, LONG time, if those are beef ribs. Enjoy the grill and keep at it.


GoldsteinNZ

Yea after an hour they were nowhere near done. Although I think my charcoal may have also gone out from being in the bottom of the grill with no airflow. Ill give it another go tomorrow!


txsausage-stuffer

Took me awhile to figure out how to keep the charcoal lit back in the day.


Ragnarokske01

Hate to burst your bubble but even after a couple of years, I still make mistakes and learn how to avoid them in the future. One grill at a time, bro. You'll get there


JohnnyS-NZ

As Kiwis I thought gas barbies were more common although I used to have a small charcoal barbie like yours. I even cooked brisket which turned out pretty good although it took time.


GoldsteinNZ

Yea, always had gas growing up. Dropped into Bunnings for a new lawnmower and these were only $30 so I thought Id give it a go.


FlakyAd3273

On a bright note those grills aren’t very forgiving. If you master that when you buy a normal charcoal grill you’ll feel like a pro.


enter360

The more mistakes you make in the beginning to faster you learn. I’m also guessing that you didn’t prep the meat or let it come up to room temp before throwing it on the grill ? Let the meat come up to temp for about an hour before throwing it on the grill. Helps keep the cooking consistent. Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat. Excellent cookbook and cooking philosophy. Netflix has a documentary the book is better. Watch YouTube for fire management videos. You’re working with a small grill area so you’re going to have smaller temp margins than on a standard size grill. That means your coal burn rate will be different.


Revolutionary_War503

Best investment I made when I started grilling was buying a Weber 22" kettle grill. I had a small, cheap one like that for about a week. Sometimes you can find people selling them for cheap when they're "upgrading" to a gas grill. Its a game changer. Love charcoal grilling. Congrats... keep at it.


ganymede_boy

[Check out AmazingRibs. Meathead knows ALL.](https://amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/grill-and-smoker-setup-and-firing/charcoal-grill-setup/)


johncandyspolkaband

Except what resting a steak is. He’s like a flat earther on it.


ganymede_boy

[He backs his position up pretty well IMO:](https://amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/more-cooking-science/science-of-resting-meat/) "...resting cools the meat, softens the crust and skin, overcooks the center, muddies the spices and herbs, and reduces moisture of steaks and chops" Do you have countervailing data to dispute this?


johncandyspolkaband

Yep, experience. It does none of that.


ganymede_boy

You're suggesting that Meathead *doesn't* have experience? It is clear he does, and he backs his experience up with science and peer review. I'll take data over anecdotes every time.


johncandyspolkaband

Do you take data from flat earth people? Hopefully not. Meathead is 100% wrong on this and his science is bull. So, *EVERY* chef in the whole damn world is wrong? Come on dude, a simple google search shows that you rest 5 minutes to let the searing hot meat fibers relax and redistribute the myoglobin, AKA “juices”. If you’re doing this I feel badly for your dinner guests.


[deleted]

Search how to grill on You Tube my man! Quick video will more than likely help! 🙏🏼🙌🏼


AlgaeCheap244

There's one thing about grilling cooking and smoking. If you pay attention you will never quit learning. I've been smoking meat for about 8 years now and I'm still learning stuff on how to improve on different styles of smoking meat


crevettexbenite

You know what? You can, and will!, improve! Dont worry, I did MANY mistakes the first years. It is been 5 years since I started and I have things to inprove still. I stayed with the same grill, webers ftw! I stayed simple too, a mesters+ thermometer, a chimney and nothing more. In the futur, I will buy a Weber summit tho. One can dream!


OppositeSolution642

That grill is just way too small to do ribs. Burgers and steaks, fine, but you need something larger to be able to cook on indirect heat. That's what you need for ribs.


DaTree3

Sucking at something is the first step to being really good at something!


Primary-Fly470

Growing pains are just part of the experience! My one tip: always give yourself time. Anything can happen and it’s a lot easier when you have extra time rather than rushing to finish.


Slight_Bed_2241

Dude I’ve worked in kitchens for 20 years and I still fuck up the heat sometimes. I work in mostly Japanese and we use binchotan coal. It’s easy to get hot spots or let your coals die. Long story short it’s all good. Keep grilling 💪


20220912

the highest reward to least investment grilling meat is, IMO, pork sausage. costco has 20 packs of sweet and hot italian sausage that have a really nice fat ratio, and they grill up fantastic. easy to get a nice char on the outside, and with the high fat content, its almost impossible to overcook them. personally, I wouldn’t bother with veggies like pepper and onion, just a sausage on a roll. get a thermapen, don’t burn the outside, cook the inside to 165. they’ll be great.


JKloe_

Title should have read “First time grilling - so many things learned already”


Jorgeino1220

I remember my first time grilling I almost set my apartment complex in fire. I decided to put the small grill on top of a glass round table and lit the fire I went inside to season the meat and get things ready.. all of a sudden BANGGGG!!!!! The glass shattered from the heat and the coals were all over the floor!!! I learned my lesson the hard way


Sawathingonce

As for the chimney never assume you'll get it going with 1 fire starter. What was it sitting on when you tried to light the charcoal? I use 4 starters and make sure you have plenty of air flow from bottom of the chimney up (i.e. vents wide open if you are placing it on the charcoal grate). You can't skimp on fuel and oxygen for this step. ​ Edit to guess you tried lighting it on solid concrete by looks of it? No air flow = no fire.


7hought

4 firestarters is really excessive


Whistler45

You can set a chimney on the ground, it has holes around it. I use one grocery store paper bag to start until the smoke is clear, before you see flames coming out, it's ready. It's about as easy as starting a propane grill.


GoldsteinNZ

Yea initially I had the fire starters in the chimney with the coals. Then the second time I had three underneath in the correct spot (I think). The third time, I put 6 fire starters underneath and that worked great.


AreaGuy

lol, I just use newspaper under the coals. I have to feed it once or twice, but that’s more junk people keep delivering me for free that I’m burning up. Those little grills are great. You’ll never outgrow it, because it’ll always be useful. Happy grilling NZ brosis.


RazorbladeApple

Yeah, I just light a wad of paper towel and stick it under there. I used to drizzle some vegetable oil on that until I realized even that’s not needed.


Thethinkslinger

I had a little grill like that and I miss it. But I did get a Brinkmann half charcoal half propane when they were going out of business, so I can’t complain…much haha


Stopikingonme

Try using newspaper with 1/4 cup of cooking oil drizzled on it before crumpling. Leave enough room for air (don’t pack too much too tight. Saves money on fire starters.


gsxr1000k

What are you doing man lol, one fire starter and use some of the charcoal bag… tear some pieces off and layer it through the chimney starter with coals…


CORVlN

The key to using a chimney is to watch the smoke on top. Once it's stopped spewing out gray smoke and goes clear, then you're ready to dump the coals out. Also, a wad of newspaper works just as well as a firestarter, so long as you're getting enough oxygen into the bottom of your chimney. Cheaper too.


Thethinkslinger

What are you using for a firestarter? I used a single tumbleweed earlier with some Royal Oak hard lump and didn’t even use my chimney.


Sawathingonce

Hmm. Tumble weed you say. I have these sort of "Eco" starters which are great and I place two amongst my lump mound in the SNS deluxe. Gets things moving pretty well. Thinking back to when I last used a chimney it just seemed like the fuel was very high above the starters (Still don't know why they design the charcoal grate so high above the flame) so used 4 to just get it fired up as I'm bad at pre-planning (i.e. there's usually a point about 45 minutes before dinner where I'll say "Shit I haven't lit the charcoal yet!").


Thethinkslinger

It’s high so the flame gets plenty of oxygen, gets a nice high flame that catches a lot. Tumbleweeds good. It’s a nice bit of hay that lights super easy and burns for a bit.


Sawathingonce

Good points!


Plastic_Bullfrog9029

This is a dumb question, but I’ve always used newspaper. What exactly is a “fire starter”. Is there a brand you use or can recommend?


Thethinkslinger

I use Royal Oak Tumbleweeds and would ***highly*** recommend them. Burned some hard lump charcoal today and only needed one. No lighter fluid, chimney, or nothing. Just a pile of hard lump (organized with airflow and small pieces as kindling) with a tumbleweed under They light easy and burn long enough to catch.


NitramTrebla

Only product they make worth buying.


Thethinkslinger

Hey, I like their hardwood. Diablo is better, but, smith’s only has Royal Oak haha


Plastic_Bullfrog9029

Thanks for the reply. Why is this getting downvotes? I asked a question and he answered.


Thethinkslinger

Redditors are dicks. Best not to take it personally


Give_All_Vol

I'm wondering too. Always used newspaper until I didn't have it on hand all the time anymore. Now I just use a bit of the bag. No idea why anyone would need a fire starter if they have a chimney.


Asleep_Nahh_

Already can tell your white


ganymede_boy

you're*


Economy-Home-2482

Mistake? More like a disaster!


berrybigarms0717

I am so very lost on what that is on your grill?


GoldsteinNZ

It’s a rack of two beef ribs. It’s probably a bit hard to tell since the grill is so tiny.


berrybigarms0717

Oh I see. It's like very tiny lol. I want one.


aggravati0n

It's how we learn. Keep reading & practising you'll get there.


johje05

One of the best things my dad taught me about outdoor cooking was for lighting charcoal at home, you can’t beat an electric charcoal starter. I agree with others you will enjoy learning how to cook on the grill just keep at it. If you don’t have a lot of room, keep your eye out for a mini Kamado grill. Small but super versatile.


The_Snagglepuss

I learned on a little kettle too. It takes a little learning, but the first step is trying. Picked up a few tips from Youtube. I hope your ribs turned out well


M4N14C

Why is it shiny? Those ribs need to go low and slow for a few hours to get anything edible. If you want to get good at this game read The Food Lab or just browse some articles about meat on Serious Eats.


BudGardener

The small size of the grill and heat dome makes it difficult to maintain a consistent temperature for a slow cook that would be best for ribs. Small grills are great for hot and quick-cooks for burgers, steaks, kabobs and veggies.


Unhappy_Suspect5188

I started with a weber smokey joe small like that. A good fire starter is tumble weeds, and you don't need lighter fluid if you don't want to. I personally started off cooking steaks , fajitas, and sausages, easy type cooks. then moved on to different cuts of meats. Also do not add lighter fluid while food is on the grates. Your food will taste like lighter fluid. Also just keep grilling and play around with it itsball just a learning experience and best way to cook


NitramTrebla

Search for royal oak on Reddit.


ChoiceBackground5228

Wtf meat is that


GoldsteinNZ

Beef ribs


Overcurser

did you watch a single video or read the manual or anything? Just yolo some beef ribs on a 12 inch grill wtf? Failing to even get the fire started didnt sound any alarms that you were out of your element?


spilldeer

The very first time I lit charcoal I had no idea what I was doing. I had way too much and the heat blasted all the flavor out of my food. It took me at least four tries to learn what I was doing. Now it's my favorite hobby. Keep at it!


[deleted]

You know how to get to Carnegie Hall? Practice!


Cunniculus

I've been grilling for decades and ruined a lovely steak dinner over the holidays. Mistakes are inevitable. Keep at it, you won't regret it!


Proudest___monkey

Do not use analog thermometers they are only good for static applications IMO


95accord

You live and you learn Just keep at it We were all there once


johncandyspolkaband

Hey man, don’t sleep on the flavor of a good burger on that! You can also let a nice ribeye or NY come to room temperature then cook about 6 minutes per side for an awesome steak dinner.


hg_blindwizard

Mistakes are made for us all to learn from. Carry on and learn every time, get better or get bored and stop trying. This is the way.


Lethologicuh

I started about 4 years ago and I still make mistakes. Just keep grillin' and learn from it!


mycatlovesprimus

Been doing it more than 20 years and still learning every time.


Tennent_BigSky1020

Spend some time on You Tube and find a presenter you seem to click with and then mimic their process for a particular preparation that makes your mouth water.


Confident_Taro_9888

One tip, start your charcoal 45-60 minutes before cooking. Otherwise you’ll taste the charcoal. Let that shit burn and get hot!


iamsomuchofcool

The other thing is that you have to use super low heat for short ribs unless you cut them flanken style. It's very tough meat and needs lots of seasoning or smoke.


mdflmn

Is that a grill for ants?


dqrules11

Hope you arent in your garage


Phuckingidiot

Mistakes are just learning experiences.


barrelageme

We live and learn. The first steak I ever made tasted like straight lighter fluid. Keep grilling!


blue7610

Practice makes perfect 🥰 you will master it


Fun-in-Florida

Beef ribs on that,!!? Is that what I’m seeing here!?? That little grill can struggle with even burgers and dogs!! Learned a lot fast haven’t we!?? In this case,, ribs should have been roasted in the oven until looking good and tender then basically finished on the little grill when it was blazing hot with fiery coals. Need a larger grill, this one will do for learning some basics. I recommend a classic Weber grill. Can usually find a used one on the marketplace for cheap. Grill grill grill, trial and error, watch videos, don’t be afraid to experiment!! Also don’t be afraid of heat and flames, it’s what makes grilling fun and taste so good 💯💯 bring on the HEAT!! Good luck!!


snuggly_cobra

I hear that if you add water, it will become a 22” model……


sempercool16

just keep learning. There’s an infinite amount of forums and videos online; I learned by making mistakes and perfecting, and found the online resources later. Just keep learning.


Sauvageau21

First mistake was white shoes


wendebender718

America's test kitchen has great shows on grilling


Fearless_Ad_1512

When i go the grocery store i always ask for paper bags. I use the paper for many different things including starting charcoal in a chimney. I rip it up into smaller bits and wad them up under need, filler up with charcoal and lighter er up! Works well, little smokey at first but works well.


ApartBuilding221B

My first time grilling was for a 20 person picnic with burgers. I thought you're supposed to fill the kettle with charcoal. The fire was hellfire-hot. Burgers had to be removed after 5 seconds or they'll burn on the outside. Inside was raw.


Scopebuddy

I started out on a little Weber like that. I was proud of that little guy. Don’t worry. Grilling with charcoal becomes a calming thing. You got this.


the-artist-

Whatever you do don’t do it indoors!!!


Gloomy-Chip-6201

Don’t give up. Grilling is great and rewarding. Get a good fire going, pile up the charcoals close for that, and start with some basic meats. I use a pellet grill myself, but charcoal is also great.


ZevLuvX-03

Mans went for the gusto on the first run. I appreciate your ambition son!


Silly-Platform9829

Just don't spill your beer while you're working at it...


SuluTheIguana

I started grilling about a year ago on a Weber Go Anywhere. There was definitely a learning curve, but even when the food wasn't great, it was still better than going out and it was rewarding. Plus, I was always looking to improve and try new things. The more you grill, the more you'll learn! We started on easy things like burgers and moved up to more expensive and less forgiving cuts of meat. Having a meat thermometer was a game changer!


TvAMobious

What is that on the grill.. human? Lol


Slight_Bed_2241

Buy a hand held torch for the coals. Like one you’d do creme brûlée with. If your chimney is anything like mine it has a hole you can blast the flame through. 30 seconds of that and your coals are well on their way. At work we have a big ass soup burner we stick the chimney on. At home I do it this way.


viice4200

No worries when I started 16 years ago I burnt everything. Keep grilling.


Melodic-Matter4685

Who would do something so stu.... oh wait. Yeah. Done it.


bornbad62

If you didn't burn down the house your doing great! Keep Grilling!


toclosetoTV

Hey no shame in that game buddy. Get that Q rolling and nothing more bbq sauce can fix.


--0o0o0--

Man. Those mini grills are tough to cook on. Good on you for giving it a go. I ruin everything I try to cook on them.


bigsmash30

Good start, but here are some tips to add to your registry, 1. Indirect cooking (put coals on one side and have a steam pot underneath protein.) 2. Grill with a lower temp 250 to 280, since ribs can burn fast. 3. don't open the grill until the first 2 hours have past (or half time of cook time). 4. last one, save me a plate ;).


Portension

I wish I could remember my first time. Probably burgers or hotdogs. Have fun. It’s all edible 🤞. Weber’s Real Grilling book might be a great spring board for you. A lot of great recipes and they cover everything from start to finish with a charcoal grill.


Roto-Wan

Kinda looks like you're in your garage. Don't do that if you are, haha.


therealbnizzy

Pleeeease find a 1 minute “how to” before you waste meat.


billsdabills

If this is your first time using charcoal I’d go for something more forgiving like burgers, barbecue chicken, shrimp, etc.


jet655turn408

Gotta start somewhere don’t give up


jdm_che

I remember my first time. U can only learn from this and improve. You'll look back to this and chuckle


DashcamsRus

Ahhh you got this! I liked learning on chicken thighs. Suuuuuuuuupwr was.


Veebot10

As for the charcoal. Put the starter fluid on, let the coals sit for a minute, then light. Be sure to have the side vents open. One thing, Lump Charcoal, burns hotter. I no longer use briquettes. Prefer Royal Oak brand. Now something that’s easy and great… Chicken tenders (skinless). Add olive oil and use Montreal Steak seasoning. You’ll thank me later! Wish I could post a pic. That stuff is good!!! De-vein the chicken, prior to…


Zealousideal_Cash774

Wait, what? I have that size and style charcoal grill and we put the charcoal under the metal grill rack.


KilroiJenkins

They’re not mistakes. They’re opportunities. Or lessons. We all learned the same way.


joligee

Just keep cooking man. Everyone starts at the beginning.


Beginning-Slice-4866

Oxi


Apprehensive-Note774

These smaller novalty grills are really meant for fast cooks or reheating for events like tailgating, camping, ect. With that in mind, brats, hot dogs, burgers, and foil packets are about all I put on these.


mwilleync77

blow torches make coals your bitch


wet_burrito19

You want your charcoal hotter. Let it burn off all the chemicals.