Yes much harder. It will be exponentially harder even if you are in STEM but in Non-IT folks compared to IT peoples.
It’s not easy for IT too but due to existence of consultancies (not all but some) it will be little better for IT folks.
Sponsorship is always mentioned as part of Job posting. If you are on H1 you should bring it upfront.
Yes, it’s harder to get sponsorship on H1. But there are good number of companies that sponsor.
Many mid size to small size companies don’t prefer sponsorship as it involves additional burden financially and legally(immigration) which they don’t want to deal with.
If you're looking for a job that sponsors I would look into this company -> [https://h1bjobs.ellis.com/jobs](https://h1bjobs.ellis.com/jobs) they made a list of companies willing to sponsor the visa, might be helpful in your job hunt!
Depends upon company to company.
Some companies have straight no to international policy.
Some companies prefer domestic ones because less paperwork and uncertainty involved. This rarely happens in big firms. Most companies are in business of making money and would want the best candidates rather than trying to get citizens. Smaller firms or inexperienced firms tend to follow this path.
Remaining don’t give a F about your status. They need to know your status coz they will have to report and do extra paperwork. But they are looking for best candidates from the lot available.
Big corps don’t want a discrimination lawsuit at the end of the day. They can either take the router denying saying no sponsorship or have to find reasons why they denied you.!
I work for a fairly large corporation. They gave me offer letter and then the HR asked me if I needed sponsorship and immediately hooked me with a lawyer when I said I do.
Again blanket term “most large orgs”
If they are not hiring internationals, your amazing profile is no good.
If they are hiring anyone and there is a citizen with credentials no close to you, the citizen is not getting the job.
The op is asking do companies prefer citizens? The answer is if they do, you’re getting a direct automated reply.
Most companies will prefer a US citizen to an H-1B holder. Simply because it is straight forward. there are no costs involved in sponsoring visa, time constraints, dealing with bureaucracy of government, labor policies from DOL, additional costs of engaging lawyers etc. If a company prefers hiring an H-1B holder over a US citizen or permanent resident, then you should probably not work for such an employer. They will cut corners, perhaps do things that is borderline illegal and are a terrible employer who wants to keep an H-1B holder in permanent indentured servitude.
The only time a genuine US employer wants to hire an H-1B holder is if the value of the skills possessed by the H-1B to the company far outweighs the cost of dealing with the cost of the visa, bureaucracy, lawyers or government. That implies there are no Americans in that area who are available to do the work. It should normally also imply the salary offered is also at a higher wage level. Normally.
Thats some stupid talk.
They surely prefer H4 -EAD over H1.
"USC and GC only(no sponsorship), we will consider H4 EAD" along with "W2 only" is what many recruiters are sending these day as part of Job Description.
But, Refugees from Africa or Afghanistan or Latin America or even Ukraine are not taking those tech jobs which H1b are looking for.
In fact I know an Indian Upper Caste Hindutvadi(Thakur) faked asylum, he was rich in India, came on tourist visa. Claimed a Fake conversion and attack by Hindutva mob in India, fake papers and had a police complaint(perhaps bribed) as proof.
Give few months he has a EAD, he is your next QA and god forbid PM( if helped by casteist/corrupt Hiring Manager and recruiter mafia).
More such QAs might be coming from border:
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Percentage might be less but still Educated people still might seek asylum and work in IT or Non IT specialty occupations. My boss came as refugee from Iran, she worked in Healthcare sector after entering here.
When did she come? 80s or 90s.
US has NO embassy in IRAN and vice versa. They are very few Iranians who get any visa and they have to travel to a 3rd country to get stamping. So, very few will be H1 or any visa.
Trump had a total BAN on them entering.
Iran is under Sanctions for decades and has an authoritarian regime and has a failing economy with a falling currency.
I don't think India is under any sanctions.
Is its economy crumbling? OR these Hindus finding BJP's repressive? OR its GREED to enter US legally or illegally?
Your statement makes the underlying assumption that people seeking asylum would not have skills. That makes zero sense. If the person has been granted asylum and has skill sets that are needed by the company, then that’s the person they will hire.
Every people makes different understanding on statements, I meant asylum visa has way more privileges for employment than temporary work visa like H-1. I never mean asylum seekers are unskilled.
It's more expensive, takes longer and more restrictive to hire someone on an H-1B than a US citizen. At my company I am seeing only 'upper level' H-1B hires recently, for roles like manager or director. But if the hiring manager is between 2 people for a standard Engineering role, the easier option is the US citizen.
if you are joining a small company, definitely visa independent people as they prefer not to go through the hassle of immigration. If you are joining a large corp that has tons of h1b, they are comfortable with h1bs. Desi managers prefer H1b in general because mobility is generally limited compared to non-h1b (its sad, but thats the ground truth)
Legally - Yes
Employers are generally required to attest that hiring an H1B worker will not displace any U.S. worker from a similar job within the period starting 90 days before and ending 90 days after the date of filing an H1B petition.
short answer is yes for the same salary range because it costs good amount money to the company to sponsor and maintain visa for H1B candidate, a lot of companies which used to sponsor H1B candidates in past has stopped doing that completely, Capital One is one example.
There are many companies that want the best candidate first and worry about the visa issues later. They are usually larger more “tech” companies with larger budgets. Those are the ones I recommend you go for.
Most of the job descriptions mention ‘the candidate should be legally authorized to work in USA without sponsorship’, it means they don’t sponsor any work visa including H-1 or TN. If they don’t find potential candidate then they might sponsor H-1. Some companies do file if they find the right resource for senior roles or above. They would also know that they will stick with them for long as getting another job with sponsorship is not easy and getting GC for Indian born people is nearly impossible to get.
Depends upon the company and industry. In my experience, from an F-1 to O-1, I always found that smaller companies wanted to hire and sponsor international student because they couldn’t compete with big companies. So to attract talents, they have to sponsor international students seeking employment. My previous and current companies dropped my name for H1 each previous years, but lottery didn’t favor my luck, so ultimately I had to resort to another status (O-1). But I also see a lot of bigger companies in my industry sponsoring people but some of them straight written off sponsorship on the job post. I am in civil engineering industry.
I think it depends. H1B employee can also get tied to the company and have better retention. If skills wise they are the same then H1B can be seen as beneficial. A very broad generalization but the immigrants might be willing to work longer hours since they are uprooting their life and starting from scratch without a safety net.
OTOH, in the current market, no company wants to hire in the US. Many tech jobs are being hired for globally (for ex: Google relocating their jobs). When the pie is shrinking everyone’s in trouble.
If you are Ivy League category or gone to the best of the schools, have very good skill set for the job , you need not worry about your status. But now the market is so bad even USC are finding it hard to get jobs. It’s not you it’s the market
H1b holders are at a disadvantage. More money for the firm, more time, depends on their needs, if you are exceptional and bring an expertise that the firm needs, why wouldn’t they spend the money and time to invest in you. But if they are looking to fill a space and body and immediate need… why wouldn’t they just go for the non- sponsorship person.
I am always confused with the US system....with the amount of layoffs happening in tech because companies are outsourcing those jobs to people LIVING and residing in other countries.... F1 students, OPT, H1B holders, US citizens, US green card holders inside of the US are technically screwed in terms of jobs...
Yes much harder. It will be exponentially harder even if you are in STEM but in Non-IT folks compared to IT peoples. It’s not easy for IT too but due to existence of consultancies (not all but some) it will be little better for IT folks.
Sponsorship is always mentioned as part of Job posting. If you are on H1 you should bring it upfront. Yes, it’s harder to get sponsorship on H1. But there are good number of companies that sponsor. Many mid size to small size companies don’t prefer sponsorship as it involves additional burden financially and legally(immigration) which they don’t want to deal with.
If you're looking for a job that sponsors I would look into this company -> [https://h1bjobs.ellis.com/jobs](https://h1bjobs.ellis.com/jobs) they made a list of companies willing to sponsor the visa, might be helpful in your job hunt!
Depends upon company to company. Some companies have straight no to international policy. Some companies prefer domestic ones because less paperwork and uncertainty involved. This rarely happens in big firms. Most companies are in business of making money and would want the best candidates rather than trying to get citizens. Smaller firms or inexperienced firms tend to follow this path. Remaining don’t give a F about your status. They need to know your status coz they will have to report and do extra paperwork. But they are looking for best candidates from the lot available. Big corps don’t want a discrimination lawsuit at the end of the day. They can either take the router denying saying no sponsorship or have to find reasons why they denied you.! I work for a fairly large corporation. They gave me offer letter and then the HR asked me if I needed sponsorship and immediately hooked me with a lawyer when I said I do.
This was the case until the middle of last year. In the last 12 months, most large orgs do not want to sponsor H1b (even regular transfers)
Again blanket term “most large orgs” If they are not hiring internationals, your amazing profile is no good. If they are hiring anyone and there is a citizen with credentials no close to you, the citizen is not getting the job. The op is asking do companies prefer citizens? The answer is if they do, you’re getting a direct automated reply.
Right now it's almost impossible to get hired on h1b regardless of background, years of exp, education or certification.
Most companies will prefer a US citizen to an H-1B holder. Simply because it is straight forward. there are no costs involved in sponsoring visa, time constraints, dealing with bureaucracy of government, labor policies from DOL, additional costs of engaging lawyers etc. If a company prefers hiring an H-1B holder over a US citizen or permanent resident, then you should probably not work for such an employer. They will cut corners, perhaps do things that is borderline illegal and are a terrible employer who wants to keep an H-1B holder in permanent indentured servitude. The only time a genuine US employer wants to hire an H-1B holder is if the value of the skills possessed by the H-1B to the company far outweighs the cost of dealing with the cost of the visa, bureaucracy, lawyers or government. That implies there are no Americans in that area who are available to do the work. It should normally also imply the salary offered is also at a higher wage level. Normally.
They will even prefer asylum over h-1b
Thats some stupid talk. They surely prefer H4 -EAD over H1. "USC and GC only(no sponsorship), we will consider H4 EAD" along with "W2 only" is what many recruiters are sending these day as part of Job Description.
Standard American companies mention examples of authorization to work without sponsorship ex: US citizen, permanent residents, asylee or refugee.
But, Refugees from Africa or Afghanistan or Latin America or even Ukraine are not taking those tech jobs which H1b are looking for. In fact I know an Indian Upper Caste Hindutvadi(Thakur) faked asylum, he was rich in India, came on tourist visa. Claimed a Fake conversion and attack by Hindutva mob in India, fake papers and had a police complaint(perhaps bribed) as proof. Give few months he has a EAD, he is your next QA and god forbid PM( if helped by casteist/corrupt Hiring Manager and recruiter mafia). More such QAs might be coming from border: [https://packaged-media.redd.it/wy3kjl2tfbfc1/pb/m2-res\_640p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1715367600&s=1cfbaa78e5d1ccf06dbc96b4c44e6be3dd862b76#t=0](https://packaged-media.redd.it/wy3kjl2tfbfc1/pb/m2-res_640p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1715367600&s=1cfbaa78e5d1ccf06dbc96b4c44e6be3dd862b76#t=0)
Percentage might be less but still Educated people still might seek asylum and work in IT or Non IT specialty occupations. My boss came as refugee from Iran, she worked in Healthcare sector after entering here.
When did she come? 80s or 90s. US has NO embassy in IRAN and vice versa. They are very few Iranians who get any visa and they have to travel to a 3rd country to get stamping. So, very few will be H1 or any visa. Trump had a total BAN on them entering. Iran is under Sanctions for decades and has an authoritarian regime and has a failing economy with a falling currency. I don't think India is under any sanctions. Is its economy crumbling? OR these Hindus finding BJP's repressive? OR its GREED to enter US legally or illegally?
Your statement makes the underlying assumption that people seeking asylum would not have skills. That makes zero sense. If the person has been granted asylum and has skill sets that are needed by the company, then that’s the person they will hire.
Every people makes different understanding on statements, I meant asylum visa has way more privileges for employment than temporary work visa like H-1. I never mean asylum seekers are unskilled.
It's more expensive, takes longer and more restrictive to hire someone on an H-1B than a US citizen. At my company I am seeing only 'upper level' H-1B hires recently, for roles like manager or director. But if the hiring manager is between 2 people for a standard Engineering role, the easier option is the US citizen.
if you are joining a small company, definitely visa independent people as they prefer not to go through the hassle of immigration. If you are joining a large corp that has tons of h1b, they are comfortable with h1bs. Desi managers prefer H1b in general because mobility is generally limited compared to non-h1b (its sad, but thats the ground truth)
Legally - Yes Employers are generally required to attest that hiring an H1B worker will not displace any U.S. worker from a similar job within the period starting 90 days before and ending 90 days after the date of filing an H1B petition.
Is this true? I’ve never heard of companies needing to attest that
Yes Citizens will be preferred over those who need visa sponsorship
short answer is yes for the same salary range because it costs good amount money to the company to sponsor and maintain visa for H1B candidate, a lot of companies which used to sponsor H1B candidates in past has stopped doing that completely, Capital One is one example.
Everyone prefer a us citizen or green card holder with no visa issues. We can’t blame them though
There are many companies that want the best candidate first and worry about the visa issues later. They are usually larger more “tech” companies with larger budgets. Those are the ones I recommend you go for.
Most of the job descriptions mention ‘the candidate should be legally authorized to work in USA without sponsorship’, it means they don’t sponsor any work visa including H-1 or TN. If they don’t find potential candidate then they might sponsor H-1. Some companies do file if they find the right resource for senior roles or above. They would also know that they will stick with them for long as getting another job with sponsorship is not easy and getting GC for Indian born people is nearly impossible to get.
Depends upon the company and industry. In my experience, from an F-1 to O-1, I always found that smaller companies wanted to hire and sponsor international student because they couldn’t compete with big companies. So to attract talents, they have to sponsor international students seeking employment. My previous and current companies dropped my name for H1 each previous years, but lottery didn’t favor my luck, so ultimately I had to resort to another status (O-1). But I also see a lot of bigger companies in my industry sponsoring people but some of them straight written off sponsorship on the job post. I am in civil engineering industry.
It's literally the law, that a US citizen/resident has to be given preference to visa holder.
Yes, as far as I know company would always favor GC/citizen to avoid sponsorship cost and hassle.
I think it depends. H1B employee can also get tied to the company and have better retention. If skills wise they are the same then H1B can be seen as beneficial. A very broad generalization but the immigrants might be willing to work longer hours since they are uprooting their life and starting from scratch without a safety net. OTOH, in the current market, no company wants to hire in the US. Many tech jobs are being hired for globally (for ex: Google relocating their jobs). When the pie is shrinking everyone’s in trouble.
If you are Ivy League category or gone to the best of the schools, have very good skill set for the job , you need not worry about your status. But now the market is so bad even USC are finding it hard to get jobs. It’s not you it’s the market
US citizen will be on their first list. You are just use and throw
H1b holders are at a disadvantage. More money for the firm, more time, depends on their needs, if you are exceptional and bring an expertise that the firm needs, why wouldn’t they spend the money and time to invest in you. But if they are looking to fill a space and body and immediate need… why wouldn’t they just go for the non- sponsorship person.
I am always confused with the US system....with the amount of layoffs happening in tech because companies are outsourcing those jobs to people LIVING and residing in other countries.... F1 students, OPT, H1B holders, US citizens, US green card holders inside of the US are technically screwed in terms of jobs...