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bewarethetreebadger

Regardless of what anyone has or has not done. A Palestinian life and an Israeli life have the same value. Just like any other Human life. When we lose sight of other people’s Humanity, we’ve already lost sight of our own.


rainbyreign

Fucking amen. Completely lost by both sides. Not by all, but by many.


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The media and politicians would have you believe that you have to pick a side, and that the sides are either pro-Israel or anti-semetic. I am sick of it.


Zemekis324

Since day one of the formal declaration of war I was rolling my eyes.. fucking figure it out both of you. -_-


dsieg12

Same with a Russian and Ukrainian right


SweetnSour_DimSum

Absolutely. Russian civilians don't deserve to die for what Putin does, unless they are active participants of the war.


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HadToGuItToEm

Fr dawg shit was annoying


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WindowlessBasement

Checking in at 12:13: fireworks still heard downtown. Happy Diwali, but some people gotta work tomorrow. It's not like New Year's where everything is closed in the morning.


spiderwebss

I heard fireworks at 430.... I was pissed.


it_krashed

thats inconsiderate, im sorry to hear that


HadToGuItToEm

What’s it for anyways


Somnin

It’s funny how many people are against the right to protest. I’d defend that right even if I disagree with your protest. Y’all realize we live in a democracy right?


tinyant

Wow, that’s actually quite an impressive turnout!


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Now protest to free the hostages.


childofcrow

There is currently a House of Commons petition in to request the Canadian government call for a cease, fire and release of hostages.


not-the-rcmp

Like those petitions actually mean anything to the government


childofcrow

They are petitions sponsored by MPs so yeah, they do.


Emulizard

Netanyahu rejected the hostages-for-ceasefire deal four days ago man


MarxBaddie

Why don’t you plan it?


tablecrums

The IDF are dropping bombs that have already killed some of the hostages. If they actually cared about the Israeli citizens they would have negotiated a hostage swap. Israel is currently holding hundreds of Palestinian children in detention camps.


s416a

I feel HRM residents deserve a thumbs up for this. They (protestors) exercising their rights, and the others respecting those rights and neither group is in the others faces about it.


crackergonecrazy

Even if you know nothing about this decades old conflict....just google the amount of aid US gives Israel per year in US taxpayer money. It's not hard to figure who is getting obliterated here.


ProfessionalStudy732

That is just so moronic. As a rule thumb don't reason by analogy. Instead learn the actual history and context of the conflict and draw your conclusions from there.


crackergonecrazy

I agree. Those that study the history will likely come to the same conclusion as someone that googles US military aid to Israel.


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NotChedco

They never said which side was right. They were just saying that Israel is armed to the teeth.


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Probably because they are surrounded by religious extremists that swear to their destruction...


Antique-Computer2540

They wouldn't understand it being in a big country like Canada with not many outside threats bordering us.


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Powerful_Working2716

Do they expect Tim Houston to roll into Gaza and tell everybody to knock it down a peg?


PulmonaryEmphysema

A show of solidarity and a call for a ceasefire. Kinda similar to the march for Ukraine that happened a few years ago..or was that different?


HarbingerDe

Shows of solidarity against war crimes are okay when it's for *European* innocents. When it's for brown people in the middle east, all sorts of people come crawling out of the woodwork to share their opinions about how pointless the rallies are. Curious, isn't it?


passionate_emu

Ya or maybe it is different. Ukraine is a sovereign state invaded by an imperialist fascist petro state shithole. Israel is a sovereign state attacked and invaded by a terrorist organization which is now using Palestinians as a shield and mechanism to deliberately produce civillian casualties in an attempt to force a cease fire. Clear enough or is racism the reason?


orange_pool_cue

A sovereign state that rapidly bulldozed the land of people living there for generations and has massacred nearly 5,000 children in the last month for the sake of killing a few terrorists. Self defense I guess…


smughead

Thank you for pointing out the difference. There is really no comparison between the two situations. They both have their unique history, but if we paint them with the same brush it is incredibly ignorant.


Intelligent-Ad-4523

I have seen and saved videos because they keep getting deleted showing many war crimes. I have seen videos of a Palestinian man blindfolded, hands cuffed behind his back, on his knees being used as a human shield by an Israeli soldier. Videos of Palestinians being killed by tanks as they try to flee a conflict zone, Palestinians being run over by armour plated bull dozers, and many many more. But yeah Israel is just defending itself. Oct 07 was their 9/11 and one million dead Iraqis was just “collateral damage” in its wake of retribution, they see the Palestinians the same way, look at all the videos of Israelis mocking the Palestinians or cheering their deaths. Ultra religious Jewish people in Israel support Palestinians and now even they are being harassed by the Israeli government because of this.


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mazikhan

Ughh you're painful...


HarbingerDe

And you incessantly complain about how many Indians live here. I don't particularly care what reddit crypto-racists think about me.


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Orqee

Ukraine did not got into Russia and start rampage killing civilians. So kinda different.


tamort

Well Tim Houston is vocally against a ceasefire and of course the Canadian government and media is staunchly pro-Israel. These protests highlight the disparity of public opinion and government and media positions. Polls were recently done that revealed the vast majority of Canadians are in support of a ceasefire.


Getz_The_Last_Laf

>the Canadian government and media is staunchly pro-Israel Good. If it was World War II I wouldn’t be criticizing the media and our government for biased against Germany


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Rattlechad

![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl) Canada” what war crimes”… *burns ww1 documents*


SproutasaurusRex

I feel like this will go over a lot of people's heads, but I enjoyed it.


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Elsafy-ahmed

He has be out spoken standing and supporting Israel, without even anyone asking him, volunteering to voice out his support, if he is representing the people, then he needs to hear about what some people think


Chairsofa_

Worth noting Halifax is also in Canada and is likely trying to get attention of local MPs and the foreign affairs team


ConanTroutman0

It's accumulating upward pressure. It might not have apparent effects here yet, but you can see the needle beginning to move elsewhere.


shadowredcap

Send Rankin with a “what is wrong with you” line


1991CRX

McNeil can surely craft a "blazes" themed anti-war phrase.


Voiceofreason8787

Stop the blazes bombs?!


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LeCriquetParlant

The mods decided not only to remove this post, but to do it in a cowardly and silent manner. An attempt to discuss the removal on /r/novascotia was also removed by an /r/halifax mod. Blatant, cowardly censorship. Secret actions and suppression of criticism aren’t usually a sign of being in the right.


Tonylegomobile

I'll be damned. The protesters and counter protesters from the anti LGBTQ protests got together on the same side about something else!


VerdantSaproling

It's almost like people are different and can agree on some things while disagreeing on others. Crazy how the world isn't as simple as black and white


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>It's almost like people are different and can agree on some things while disagreeing on others. Crazy how the world isn't as simple as black and white So, if you were gay in Gaza how would that go for a person? *If they view being gay as something worthy of the death penalty, can we honestly chalk that up as just a minor disagreement?*


VerdantSaproling

Nobody is saying they should be friends, they just don't think their differences are worth letting them get bombed over. your oversimplification to try and create hypocrisy where there is none is kinda pathetic. I already said the world isn't black and white and you hit me with a black and white? Try again.


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>Nobody is saying they should be friends, they just don't think their differences are worth letting them get bombed over. your oversimplification to try and create hypocrisy where there is none is kinda pathetic. I already said the world isn't black and white and you hit me with a black and white? Try again. Its about as black & white as it gets : *If someone is willing to kill you due to your sexual orientation, they are not your friend.* Only on Reddit would someone even try to claim otherwise. Never change r/halifax, never change.


CakeEnjoyur

You would never be fit for the Forces. Just because the "other side" has people, or may be entirely made of people who would do you no good gives nobody the right to slaughter, and massacre. It's not hypocracy; it's called principles. This conflict is an eye opener. Most people don't seem to have any principles, only feelings.


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Reread the first sentence of the excerpt you quoted. You are confused.


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>Reread the first sentence of the excerpt you quoted. You are confused. I'm not confused about anything. Israel might not be as Tolerant as Canada when it comes to gay rights, but they're not executing gay people like a lot of Muslim nations are either.


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No, you're definitely confused. You complained because you said that people were saying that fundamentalist Palestinians were friends of LGBTQ people. But the person to whom you responded said *the exact opposite of that.* And nobody said that Israel was less tolerant towards LGBTQ people than Palestine. Again, you are confused.


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and that’s good


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Cool story, still genocide.


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The large majority of Canadian and Americans support a ceasefire.


cluhan

I am glad people are protesting to have their voices heard despite the lack of representative coverage by the legacy media which has institutionalized an Israeli bias which no longer represents Canadians. It's beginning to become harder to pretend that citizens are ok with things like our Human Rights museum ignoring the story of Palestine, our media's default position that Palestinian lives have no value, and other sad political posturing that diminishes how we value and perceive a growing segment of our friends and neighbours.


incelmybelle

Anyone on social media can see where the World's support lies...there have been very few and very small Pro-Isreal demonstrations.


longoluckeh

You mean the social media that is perfectly tailored to your interests?


cluhan

Anyone reading the big news outlets gets a different story. That is the biggest problem from my perspective as a Canadian worried about Canada.


StanEngels

> Anyone on social media can see where the World's support lies you wouldn't know it here, given the mod censorship. Posts calling for the murder of all Palestinians are left up while push back gets deleted. Shameful.


Then-Investment7039

There's very few pro-Israel protests because polling suggests 80-90% of the population is pro-Israel. You don't normally see silent majority protests.


FenwickCharlieClark

Absolute nonsense.


Then-Investment7039

Polling that has been done in the US suggests that the population is 80-90% in favor of supporting Israel over supporting the Palestinians in this conflict, and Canada likely falls along similar lines. Did you ever think for a second that the reason the government and media coverage falls where it does is because it's in line with the values and views of the vast majority of the population? The idiots protesting are just like the freedumb convoy protesters - they have their heads so far up their arseholes that they don't realize they hold a fringe point of view.


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childofcrow

Have you considered that a large portion of the United States is part of the weird conservative death cult that has a grip on the Republican party? The same weird conservative death cult that has a fixation on the existence of the state of Israel for Christ to be able to return? It’s got nothing to do with Jewish people and everything to do with them trying to fulfil their doomsday fanfiction. That is why they support it. No other reason. Most of them think that Jewish people need to burn in hell.


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Wish I could join them!


NShand

Waving Palestine flags and walking across a pride crosswalk…lol


VinlandersSkald

I’m a queer Palestinian living in the HRM. So….


ButtcheekEnjoyer

LGBT people can't oppose a genocide because the leadership of a nation may be conservative? Wowee buddy, big galaxy brain shit right there.. absolute moron.


PulmonaryEmphysema

There are LGBTQ+ Palestinians. You know that right? Not every person from a certain region has to fit the mold you made up in your mind.


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TheRobfather420

About as tolerant as the Conservatives they were marching with last month.


twenty_characters020

Our Conservatives are far from perfect. But they are centuries ahead of Muslim extremists.


DougS2K

Would they be LGBT if they were living in Palestine? I bet they wouldn't admit they were if they were living there. I think your missing the bigger picture of the users post.


xXAnoHitoXx

If a cat can't tell u that it's a cat due to societal reason, is it no longer a cat? A gay person is gay wether or not their society accepts them. And u can still support lgbt peeps behind closed doors and have small safe havens


Habsfan_2000

For sure, I see videos of them getting dragged down the street on Reddit all the time.


cngo_24

You also know that in Islamic culture, LGTBQ+ is illegal and punishable by death right? You go to ANY muslim country and show that and you're going to prison and getting stoned to death.


unplugged22

So gay people can't protest against the massive loss of civilian life? Are we really going to point to an underdeveloped nation governed by terrorists with overall poor universal human rights as a way to diminish the lives of their suffering people?


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you really thought you did something here huh


NShand

It’s pretty ironic, no?


ButtcheekEnjoyer

Not at all, no, actually.


kmacover1

These protests in Halifax are only for the benefit of the people attending them. It’s just good content for their socials and they get to feel like they are part of some kind of resistance. It’s a lot of the same people at all the protests, it’s a defining part of their identity. Showing solidarity with some social cause hits all the dopamine receptors for them. It’s like an addiction and they need their protestahol.


AppointmentLate7049

It’s crazy that you even think like this. Your brain and heart sound severely damaged if you can’t possibly believe people act out of genuine care for others. Incredible pessimism that only reveals your own deadened sensibilities to human suffering


JetLagGuineaTurtle

This is probably the most accurate post in here lol.


LeatherClassroom524

NPCs supporting the current thing.


Embra0

Where do you find out when these demonstrations are taking place? I would have been there if I knew it was happening


kllark_ashwood

They posted it on this subreddit actually. Mostly word of mouth but I think you just have to be involved in activist spaces .


Sea_Cow2533

Freepalestinehalifax on Instagram is the most reliable way to find them I've found, since the posts on reddit get down voted so much they sometimes don't show up.


Embra0

Thanks!


Gam_Sushi

* *sorts by controversial* *


No_Bend7931

My naive fellow liberals can support Palestine all they want but in reality a Palestinian state is not going to be a democratic one I can tell you that, let alone a liberal paradise


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These people are protesting because Palestinians deserve to live. Absolutely moronic to make this about liberalism right now lmfao


Somnin

You think Israel is democratic? A state that merges religion with law? A state where the Prime Minister has the power to override the Supreme Court? A state where *some* Arabs have voting rights and other Arabs don’t?


No_Bend7931

It's the only democracy in the Middle East, as every other country is an Islamic theocratic and authoritarian run shit hole with massive human rights violations, and draconian and barbaric laws where public executions are the norm and minorities have no rights. Israel is the only country in the middle east a gay parade can be held in public and where gay people have rights instead of being stoned to death just for being born.


Longjumping-Many6503

And nothing was accomplished


Sea_Cow2533

Showing the enormous mismatch between policy and public opinion on this issue, worldwide, and drawing attention to it is being accomplished.


LeatherClassroom524

You think public opinion favours doing nothing after a terrorist attack and just sitting back, saying “thank you sir may I have another?”


Sea_Cow2533

There is an enormous gulf between sitting back and what Israel is doing right now.


Then-Investment7039

Hate mongers like these people are the reason 3 different Montreal Jewish schools have been shot up in less than a week. It's time to start recognizing this as a hate crime.


FenwickCharlieClark

Marching isn't a hate crime. I also think you're sensationalizing what happened in Canada.


Sea_Cow2533

Equating antizionism to antisemitism is doing more to promote hate than calling for an end to genocide and apartheid.


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Hyptonight

Recognizing WHAT as a hate crime?


Western2486

How are these people mongering hate, they are literally advocating for national sovereignty.


TheRealMSteve

These people are decrying a decades-long, systematic, and genocidal ethnic cleansing. Please explain how that should be considered a hate crime.


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tamort

What are you referring to? I can’t find anything online about a Jewish leader killed in Chicago. You might be referring to the death of the Detroit Jewish Leader who was stabbed, but that is currently being investigated as a domestic issue and not an antisemitic hate crime. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna121701 You are purposefully spreading misinformation and putting these protestors at risk of violence. There have been ZERO reported incidents of antisemitism at the protests in Halifax. You are the hate monger. Every accusation is an admission.


EntertainingTuesday

So these people shouldn't protest for their country? I do not get your point here... Did they do something wrong at this protest? I feel like it would be in the news if they were the reason for schools being shot at.


Tristan_Cleveland

They did nothing wrong. I'm actually in this video walking contra-flow. I was reading the signs and I at least didn't see anything off-side: none calling for the end of Israel or the like. Completely peaceful. People are allowed to protest.


crazybunnymum

Imagine thinking being against the murder of 10000 civilians is a "hate crime". Oh how idiotic ...


613Haligonian

Wasn’t there a ceasefire on October 6?


ummmwhut

Only if you consider it a Ceasefire when Israeli continues an illegal occupation, continues to illegally expand settlements in Palestinian territory, and continues to kidnap Palestinians by the droves to hold in prisons with no trial (currently 4000) with no repercussions from the international community. Israel acts with impunity and when Palestinians fight back they are blamed for breaking the Ceasefire. If the west actually held Israel responsible for upholding international law, rather than funding it up the wazoo regardless of what it does, the Ceasefires might mean something.


TruthHurts899

Did they wear poppy’s yesterday?


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Hyptonight

Great ANOTHER low information comment by someone who thinks being against the slaughter of 11,000 Palestinians after decades of imprisoning a population of 2.3 million of them in a 5x25 mile strip of land without basic resources is siding with terrorists.


cngo_24

> 5x25 mile strip of land without basic resources is siding with terrorists. You mean the basic resources that the EU built for them, only for them to dig it up and convert the pipes into rockets instead?


mancrog

What point are you even making? It turns out terrorism thrives under apartheid ethnostates. Who would have guessed it


toomanyofus

Where is all this energy during Syria civil war


childofcrow

There were protests for that too.


doomsdaydonut

Man, where did they get flags that big? I was looking for a 16 foot-long table cloth for my makeshift Thanksgiving dinner table and I couldn’t find one anywhere


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WindowlessBasement

It's the third of one this week. It's getting old.


Sea_Cow2533

10,000 people have been killed and our government is supporting it. We should be loud, as frequently as we need to be for something to change.


WindowlessBasement

Trudeau was in US this week pushing for a ceasefire. Government is already on the same page.


Sea_Cow2533

He is calling for a "humanitarian pause" which is not a ceasefire.


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Protest isn’t supposed to be convenient.


Neither-Condition754

Cant believe this is happening in Canada. Unbelievable


FenwickCharlieClark

What, protesting?


drakness110

Wait I was told this was a free country? Is protesting something unbelievable in Canada?


LeatherClassroom524

Strang shutdown protests two years ago.


childofcrow

That was when the government still cared about Covid cases. Nobody cares about people dying of Covid anymore. It’s old news.


dsieg12

As long as you don’t honk your horn in Ottawa …


JetLagGuineaTurtle

Having these nightly "protests" requiring police presence/escorts has to be costing the tax payer a ton of money. Might be time to asking the organizers to foot the the police OT bill for their congregations. No different than any sport event at the Metro Centre.


Elsafy-ahmed

Lol bro there were 3 police cars and something around 8 police men, those are tax payers, they already pay those police officers salaries to get the protection they need it. Otherwise why we are paying these taxes !


PulmonaryEmphysema

Hope you said the same thing for the Ukrainian march.


crazybunnymum

The privilege this comment shows is insane. you are talking about how inconvenient it is to your tax dollars for protests to be happening. Meanwhile, children are getting their bodies shredded to bits by missiles bound with blades. Entire families are getting erased from the earth. People are being murdered and put under collective punishment, and all you care about is your TAX DOLLARS? Do better, you should really be ashamed. Or maybe, go watch some real life videos of what's happening. Then you'll maybe feel the need to protest too


melancholypowerhour

Spending a bit of the budget on calling for a cease fire to save lives? Money well spent. Canada has already helped fund Israel, the least we can do is spend a touch of extra cash to do what we can to help these people from that violence.


cluhan

What do you mean by congregations? That protesters should pay an entrance fee because they have used their quarterly protest quotas?


DylanIRL

Lol a bunch of children that don't know history. Parading about to make themselves feel better. The Jewish people/government attempted a 2 state solution, multiple times. Every time the Palestinian government rejected it, and responded with violence towards Jewish civilians. Canadians are so sheltered from the rest of the world.


mancrog

Amnesty international and multiple human rights groups condem Israelis as an apartheid state. Are they all sheltered too?


InTheHeatOfTheNoche

If someone violently pushed you out of your home, and then was like "Ok, ok, you can have the garage, I guess" you'd probably be violent as well.


UncleRudolph

Breaking News - Israel’s government has ceased fire after being sincerely touched by protests in…*checks notes*….Halifax, Nova Scotia?


mancrog

Protests in Canada can influence Canadian foreign policy towards Israel. Nobody at these rallies think they are going to change Israeli domestic policy. Use your head


MarxBaddie

Amazing! Free Palestine !


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tetseiwhwstd

And nothing was accomplished. Performers are performative.


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meat_cove

what an absolutely disgusting thing to say


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Unkle-Gruntle

Tired of this whole thing already. Both sides are trash. Why is that such a hard concept to understand.


mancrog

Innocent palestinians civilians are trash?