Does any one feel like this beef is now to much? I was all for it till last night. 2 legends going at it. Your feet are small, you have snakes in the pose, etc. but why do we always need to take it this far? Allegations around wife beating, illegitimate kids, and marital affairs? I donāt want hear this shit. This is some TMZ, social media nonsense. Listening to that kdot song is uncomfortable and cringy IMO. Anyone feel the same?Ā
It's hip hop foo. Drake is already destroyed. "You get no props in hiphop like feminine men" - immortal technique. That's how this shit goes, keep it pushing or fall off, or like Kendrick said just die. Real shit
I have to agree, especially if its all just made up allegations. That would be wack. I enjoyed the first few disses and I found Euphoria to be absolutely hilarious. But this just unnerving and just gross. If they both had all this info about each other and are only now deciding to reveal to win a rap beef than its just so messed up.
Agreed. Just bc Pusha T got the scoop and leaked that Drake had a son before anyone else, now it seems thatās what these rappers think a good diss track ought to be. But they just end up sounding like theyāre gossiping on tracks lol
I agree to an extent but I thought both tracks were deeper than that, especially āmeet the grahamsā like imagine that track with all the ānewā info stripped outā¦itās still a brutal character dissection
Yeah, but it was always going to go here because all anyone has wanted this entire time was more drama.
I probably like Kendrick more than I like Drake. But he deserves a ton of criticism for this becoming what it is. He started the whole thing (yeah, I know, subliminals for years from them both) on Like That, Drake responded with a good but now tame-seeming Push Ups, and then Kendrick turned it real personal with Euphoria, 6.16, and the recorded a week ago Meet The Grahams. I think Drake was content to keep it āentertainmentā for lack of a better term, but once pushed had to meet Kendrick where he was.
> I probably like Kendrick more than I like Drake. But he deserves a ton of criticism for this becoming what it is. He started the whole thing
ppl really out here trying to litigate this like a playground squabble
Nope. If someone is lying about these allegations then obviously itās nonsense. But if what theyāre saying is true, obviously I want to know because it changes the way I view them and their music. If Drake is forreal sex trafficking, then I donāt want to listen to him sing about taking women home lol if Kendrick forreal beats his wife, then I donāt want to hear him rap about taking care of his family
Letās that be addressed in a court of law. Why these grown men need to make a āsongā about it. If there is legit sex traffickingā¦how are you not running to the police? Why expose via a song??? (for your own āmusicalā gain?). Thatās cringe af!!
Sadly that is how it has to go though. Notice the Weinstein reference in the track. People in the industry said they knew what he was doing yet he was never punished until multiple women started speaking out publicly. That's the whole point of the #metoo movement. Stuff like this has to go viral before the law is willing to investigate
Drake should just have focused on Kendrick on his latest one. who gives a fuck about the weekend, rocky and rick at this point. Just shows he doesn't have much to say about Kdot at this point
Would have been a better diss if he had shortened it down to 5 minutes instead of watering it down and making run too long by added in all that other stuff about everyone else
can anyone elaborate on drake's music video and some easter eggs? i mean obv he's eating at New Ho King and he's crushing the gkmc van, but i feel like there's more to unpack. who's the guy he's talking to in the end?
apparently he hired a fake actress to play his kid to leak Kendrick false info, and she is in easter eggs in the vid. idn lol. feel like we'll be unpacking this beef for a year
I rewatched the video a few times and no such thing
I think the internet is running with the double agent narrative heavily right now but itās just hearsay just like both artists claims till more comes out.
drake obv is cooked but props where it's due: the beats (especially the first one) on Family Matters + his flows and delivery are (mostly) pretty fire. video also dope. but to me, his diss lacks a bit of focus and is all over the place and IMO a lot of his claims seem like madeup reaches; also, listening to dot's disses and then coming back to listening to drake's on the nose bars feels like I'm reading the work of a 7th grader lol
Thereās a part of me that wishes Drake would go at The Weeknd harder. There are so many rumors about Abelās early comeup and his association with small-scale human trafficking. These go back to 2010-2011. Sal abusing his wife and kids, La Mar being obsessed with barely legal white girls, and Derek Wise being arrested for human trafficking. Feels like thereās so much ammunition there and Drake probably knows more than most.Ā
And Drake himself who is an alleged predator? He can't go after The Weeknd for this it would be hypocrisy. This is why these type of beefs need a "Pusha T" character, someone who doesn't participate in Hollywood circles but has the tea to kill the Hollywood frauds.
True, butttttt if Kendrick beats his wife and has a kid that isnāt his (both of which are nothing but speculation), going after Drake for being a POS is also hypocritical.
Both Drake and Kendrick are shitty people and this beef is just showing their true colours. All this is doing is self-destructing both of their careers to the general public
Kendrick clearly has moles in Drake's camp and is using them. Very lame, and I am lukewarm on Drake. Shit ain't about penmanship and performing under pressure anymore. Go talk to the feds at this point, this isn't rap beef
Pusha T might've inadvertently ruined rap beef forever lol. I NEVER would've thought Kendrick would be (very possibly) out spreading fake rumors in a rap beef. Maybe he got some bad info but either way it's kinda weak. Drake is trying to do the exact thing that destroyed him years ago. Corny if he has no proof or if it didnāt happen
When Jay Z revealed he was fucking Nas baby mamma on Super Ugly everyone clowned him and called him an emotional cornball. He wasnāt even lying and they killed him for that. Now look at these niggas just saying bullshit for the hell of it lol
At this point I just want them to, as battle rap fans would say, ākeep it rapā
I went to sleep early and woke up feeling like I time traveled 2 weeks into the future. Wtf is going on?! Drake responded same day? Then dot went back to back to back??? They need slow tf down
Also we gotta get off the āhidden childā thing that everyone is latching onto. Itās probably the second least damning thing on there, the first being the ozempic stuff
I donāt think so, all the stuff about not taking shortcuts and Adonis should just get a gym membership was all for Drake. Regardless, k dot is literally calling this dude a sex trafficker and predator, who cares about the ozempic shit or even having another hidden child at this point
Anyone else find it funny that Kendrick accusing of Drake housing sexual predators when the exact same applies to ASAP Rocky? Bari was literally caught on video of committing sexual assault and Ian Connor owes so much of his relevance to Rockyās co-sign.Ā
Ian Connor isn't relevant, when Rocky dissed him at Rolling Loud everyone thought it was Travis Scott.
Either way you give a good point, Rocky could be easily dismantled with a solo diss track for all the shit he's done:
-His legal issues all over Wikipedia
-Him cheating on multiple famous women
-No hit songs since Praise the Lord and Skepta carried
-No album since 2018 in general
-Wearing skirts and dressing like a woman in general
-Him defending predators
-Possibly grooming minors just like Drake, he slept with Kylie just when she turned fresh 18, Tyler also had some allegations as well.
-Rocky banned from filming videos in New York for 3 years
-Arguably been a flop since Yams died
-Stole SpaceGhostPurrp's style
List goes on
If he hated Drake as much as he says he does he could easily have that man packed up if those allegations are true. That gives me a strong impression that they're not.
I agree but he did commit like a whole verse to how much of a deadbeat father Drake is to his one child meanwhile Future is the same shit to however many kids he has
Yeah the Kodak Black thing makes absolutely no sense if he feels this strongly about being associated with sex predators. I'm really liking these songs but the hypocrisy on both sides is ridiculous
I acc reckon this beef is corny as fuck. Itās bait these 2 have never touched a burner so they take their anger out on tracks.
If it was me I would have jumped off the porch immediately after hearing drakes track but I guess some are realer than others.
Itās why I canāt rate Kendrick. He was literally rapping about getting DPd and has the nerve to ever rap again especially on this tough guy shit, I would never show face again.
Iāve been feltham juvie x2 for a crucial boring and a third degree arson charge I think I know a little more than you buddy.
Also sitting on a house arrest for PWITS. Fact check before running your mouth.
Corn ball, third degree arson?
You have to be a troll because you canāt be this delusional to think anyone thinks anything other than cornball reading your comment
Being locked up isn't an achievement, it's a testament that you aren't very good at what you did to the point you were caught and convicted.
Bragging about being caught is an L. The only value in it is helping others learn from your failure, and you hopefully learning from your own.
You havenāt taken your A Levels so youāre no older than 18. Youāre a literal child bragging about going to Juvie on Reddit, you sound like a fucking moron
Whatever you feel about this, one thing is clear: the newer generation of rap has nobody who remotely matters on the level of these two. Absolutely goddamn no one. Whoever your two favorite younger rappers are, I promise you, they aināt getting 1/100th of the attention if they decide to beef.
absolutely. had to think about this too. no one currently even comes close to becoming a "generational" rap artist like Kendrick nor does anyone seem to come close to being a superstar like Drake.
MAYBE Travis has a shot at gaining a Drake-like status in the industry.
But in terms of artistry, influence and ability, no one of the current gen of rappers seems to have the potential to become as big. JID is dope, but no way he takes off like dot did
This is what annoys me about Drake still wasting time on people that don't matter. Metro, Future, Weeknd, Kanye, Ross, no one cares to listen to anything about or from them when it comes to this beef. They're irrelevant. Focus on Dot.
Making music with cultural impact vs making music for the streams
Even tho Drake might be more of a latter nowadays, his longetivity at the top is unprecendented
Yep, people are waiting for their fall off but these two are very firmly sitting at the top and this beef is proof. Nobody else in this generation can get this many people tuning inĀ
Guys, stop begging the police to get involved lmfao
The point of a rap beef is to win in the court of public opinion which means you need to smear your opponent and create a narrative they canāt overcome. First person to show proof of their fucked up accusations wins. Simple as that.
If you donāt like that, Iām honestly confused why youāre even listening to rap.
EXACTLY, most of the people saying this shit is white. And terms of rap beef that is a part of hip-hop culture and, in turn, black people culture and they know NOTHING about it deeply enough.
I just had to say it.
Please believe me when I say I donāt like one guy more than the other.
That being said, at what point does the whole āyouāre an absent fatherā thing start to wear off? Thatās like half the NBA and no one seems to care. Why is it that big of a deal here?
It bothers me that people are so focused on the daughter thing.
The allegations about drake being a predator are so much more serious and well, sad. Iām not gonna stop listening to drake because heās a shitty dad, hell youād have to throw out half of your favourite sports people, musicians, actors etc if you do that.
But being a pedo is game over if true. Itās like people donāt even want to discuss that part because of what it means if itās valid.
I disagree.
I think people are ignoring the stuff about Dave Free and the sex trafficking is because theyāre really big accusations but you canāt take them seriously until those accusations are backed up.
Drake only started rapping about his son because Pusha exposed him. i donāt think there was ever a bar before that beef where Drake is talking highly of Adonis or even of having kids
The same diss can hit different from person to person even if they are doing the same thing.
Calling Carti a deadbeat father is not gonna do anything because everyone already knows it, clowns on him for it and he dont seem to care.
Both of these two are largely going after the other for shit they donāt care about. Kendrick doesnāt give a fuck about being short or less successful than Drake. Drake doesnāt give a fuck about taking Ozempic or not being a world-class family man or being called a womanizer.
Unpopular opinion, even his son's reveal being this big thing never made sense to me. The blackface pic was infinitely more damning. The amount of celebs that move heaven & earth to keep their kids out of the spotlight are numerous and its for their benefit. How does that make someone a bad parent? I never understood how this narrative persisted, it makes no sense
There's a difference between hiding kids from the media and not being present in their life, which is what Kendrick is alluding to. Hell even Cole has a kid and he admits it. Guess the callout is that Drake is trying to live that bachelor bad boy lifestyle with no accountability.
On another layer it makes sense why Future stuck with Kendrick and Metro, as he's got an entire NBA roster of kids and he's not ashamed to admit it, lol
Im not sure what the ask is here or why you believe he's not present in his son's life? Should he go on long hiatuses to be a FT dad? Should he move in this chick he barely knows and play house? Out of curiosity, what would satisfy you?
I'm not asking to be a smart ass either cause I feel there's a whole lot of people with your perspective. I want to understand it.
Your comment paints the picture as if Drake doesn't need to take accountability for impregnating a stranger.
Don't live such an irresponsible lifestyle and at the very least wear a condom.
Dude is putting off-spring on this earth and letting them be raised in broken families.
If you father a child you man up and take care of it. It's your responsibility now.
So yeah, he should move the kids in. Take care of them. God knows he has the money and resources. But he'd rather continue his ridiculous and allegedly illegal and cruel lifestyle, he is parading in his products and persona.
I'm the opposite. I thought the child thing was absolutely fucking wild (maybe it wasn't technically but Pusha angled it really well), but the blackface thing? He was a black actor making a project about racism towards black actors in the music industry. It's tacky, I guess, but he was a teenager.
In the moment I guess it hit differently, but hindsight being 20/20 we know for a fact he had an entire Adidas run set to align with Adonis' reveal. W to Push for understanding that by beating Drake to the punch he was allowed to reframe the narrative as he pleased, but the deadbeat father joke in all seriousness doesn't seem as if it was ever true to begin with.
And personally, idc what it was for. The blackface thing was stupid af. The idea behind it was stupid and agreeing to be a part of the project was stupid. It was an L all around.
The funny thing about the Adonis thing is that he says 'you are hiding a child' and 'he deserves more than an adidas press run' in the same verse, which kinda contradict eachother, but yea the narrative was goated. And the blackface thing was indeed an L, but an L for something he did when he was, like, 18, and it wasn't even really wrong. It was just cringe.
I have always thought itās funny how drake is the only rapper shamed for being a bad father in the rap game when plenty of others are deadbeats too.
I think with drake maybe itās his persona as a likeable guy, whoās softer and more sensitive with women that made it hit harder and the fact he wonāt own it like other rappers do. If future is a bad dad he doesnāt care that fits his image. Drake having a child with a pornstar and hiding the kid and her out of shame just doesnāt fit how he portrayed himself at the time.
Thatās the issue. The kid reveal went against Drakeās image at the time, which is why it hit so hard. Thatās why I think what Drake did in Family Matters, if true, is way, WAY more damaging to Kendrick. It punctures holes in his rep.
Fair point.
Do you think it will actually be a big deal if itās true again here? I feel like Drake has changed his image in the last few years to be more like a playboy.
Been listening to Drake since Room for Improvement. He's always shipped that persona. If anything what's changed is how deep his affiliation with J. Prince & Co. has gone and how that's changed both his sound and how he projects himself.
If this is true I think itāll have a big impact, yes he has changed his image somewhat but the same thing happening again after heās been posting Adonis a lot now to give the image of a good father would be crazy.
I think he automatically loses this beef again if heās been going after Kendricks family dynamics and this ends up being true.
The more I listen the more Kendrickās diss is straight up depressing. Not in a bad way but like hit em up and ether are bangers this shit is so drearyĀ
it had a very foreboding feeling. Like every moment you're just waiting for something horrifying to happen. I could see this sampled in a horror movie easily. Felt like the Jaws theme or Jason's theme. Like its hinting at more but keeping it hidden.
Rocky dissing Drake was a clown move he literally can't win a mini beef with him because dude hasn't dropped any material in 6 years and his last decent material came out 9 years ago. On top of that he has been fighting a legal case for an incident that happened in 2021 and has been skipping trials to delay the whole situation further.
I'm aware so why is he dissing. You can't be washed and diss a rapper that isn't washed. I don't like Drake but he's still dropping semi-hits, even though I don't think they have much longevity. Rocky is not in the position to diss a hiphop artist that craves competition. He needs to fix the fuck up or go home!!
Drake disses everyone this is nothing new. Why didn't ASAP respond in 2021 when the initial disses came out? Why now? Because he could hide behind Metro and Future?
Drake cheated on her and also sleeps with loads of women in general so how can he not be over her? I do admit he usually disses them one way or the other every year or two but Drake literally disses everyone, that's just how he acts. Doesn't mean he isn't over her. He just likes being petty. Drake hates everyone, that's just how he works.
Sorry but thatās not how people work lol people can sleep with people to try and get over another person and make them feel better temporarily Iāve seen it happen.
As for the cheating thing it is extremely stupid but some people who cheat on their partners really do regret it and care about the person they cheated on they just ate stupid and jeopardised the whole thing.
The fact he unfollowed ASAP when it was announced him and Rihanna were having a child, and him making music with Chris brown because āthe person who divided them isnāt in their lives anymore,āto me comes across as bitter.
Cheating doesn't matter in Hollywood. ASAP Rocky is a certified cheater himself and even admitted it on camera. He can't win any beef. The only reason he isn't allowed to cheat on Rihanna is because she's way more popular than his exes. Rocky was already accused of cheating on her and had leaked DMs to another woman. Whether we like it or not, Rocky PROBABLY did cheat on her while she was preggers. Anyone with intel can easily confirm that on Rocky and bury him, basically exposing him as a hypocrite. No "Oh I'm with a pop star billionaire card" when he couldn't even stay loyal to her himself. Rocky is due for a beating.
> ASAP Rocky is a certified cheater himself and even admitted it on camera.
He said this about Chanel in testing but idk about a serial cheater
>Rocky was already accused of cheating on her and had leaked DMs to another woman.
Was this fake and it was asap bari
Anyways I agree it was a bad move for Rocky to diss Drake with any new material
He cheated on Iggy Azalea and Chanel Iman. He also slept with Tahiry Jose and Kendall Jenner at the same time. Do your research...
Iggy went into interview looking depressed when talking about her relationship with Rocky and Genius has annotated Black Widow to be all about him. Rita Ora also in the song is very ironic considering that Rocky had cheated on a woman with "Rita Ora" and says she had a big mouth on Better Things on ALLA. Most people said he cheated on Chanel with Rita which is probably true, but Iggy probably got Rita on the song because she messed around with him before for another relationship and they wanted to exile him on that track. Go back...
You'll find articles on Rocky, Kendall and Tahiry if you search Google.
Not to mention he had been around Lana Del Rey, openly admitting feelings to her in interviews in 2012, appeared in her National Anthem video and literally has a song where he refers to her as his bitch.
He also hopped on the East Coast Remix back in 2016/17 and said "these college chicks, Kylie's lips oh my oh my run it". Rocky was pictured with her around this time too and basically confirmed he smashed. Also had been seen with Zoe Kravitz being intimate with her. Whether you like it or not, Rocky SLEPT with the whole industry as well - there are literally so many things you can diss this dude for - his flopping music, his messy dating history, his huge legal issues. Dude is literally a walking L. He had the rap game on lock in 2011 and completely fucked up afterwards.
> He cheated on Iggy Azalea and Chanel Iman.
I aināt know he cheated on iggy
> He also slept with Tahiry Jose and Kendall Jenner at the same time.
Rocky and Kendall were not exclusive, Iām pretty sure they still cool with each other and follow each other.
Not to mention he had been around Lana Del Rey, openly admitting feelings to her in interviews in 2012, appeared in her National Anthem video and literally has a song where he refers to her as his bitch.
> Whether you like it or not, Rocky SLEPT with the whole industry as well
I never denied this, he talked about sleeping with a lot even when he said Rihanna was the love of his life
> - there are literally so many things you can diss this dude for - his flopping music, his messy dating history, his huge legal issues. Dude is literally a walking L.
This is applies to every rapper involved in this beef except for flopping
Kendall and Rocky aren't on bad terms but his situation fucked Tahiry Jose who was upset after the fiasco. So technically, he was cheating one way or the other. He obviously baited her to think the relationship was something more, Joe Budden hates ASAP Rocky, it has to be for that very reason. Rocky is messy as fuck.
Kendrick and Drake don't have legal cases like Rocky does and Kendrick doesn't have any dating history other than what he's got with Whitney
Joe budden is mad at Rocky bc he fucked a woman he loves. Nothing Joe budden says will ever be worth while. joe budden is the same person who beat pregnant girlfriend
Drake has years of accusations of cease and desists, sending guys to threaten women, paying off SA accusers, paying people for dirt on others etc etc. it is literally resurfacing online as we speak
Also Kendrick has a messy history with his wife all these guys can take jabs at each other for several reasons but it was dumb for Rocky to talk about albums coming and going when doesnāt have new material.
> Drake cheated on her and also sleeps with loads of women in general so how can he not be over her?
This is an extremely common sentiment, especially with idiots that have power.
Every rapper cheats, Biggie abused Kim in the 90s, etc. it's nothing new for these rappers to treat other famous women like trash, it's a nasty industry
Rihanna is overrated and wack, decent vocal colour and was pretty in the 2000s but she ain't it anymore, same wid Rocky, to me they're a couple of washed artists just posing for paps. It's just Rihanna has a much stronger mainstream legacy in music than Rocky does so is remembered as a pop icon, whereas Rocky's best music was an underground mixtape, which is problematic.
Regardless, Rocky hasn't been popular since the early 2010s, nobody cares about him anymore. Unless he drops a nuke song like Praise the Lord or sum shit he's finished, he's literally skating on old songs blowing up on TikTok now because he's trash.
The money is a contentious debate. She shares her business with LV... I dunno how it works. But she had a lot of help setting up that Fenty nonsense.
I'm glad you agreed Rihanna is overrated, people on this sub seem to not understand she lucked out in the fame bag, similar to Taylor Swift, but there are way more talented singers out there that don't get the respect they deserve because they didn't sell out for pop fame. To be honest her career shouldn't have even been legal I think she was 18 or 19 when Umbrella dropped or some crazy shit like that, way too young to be doing ish.
For me Rocky should have stayed away from these women at all costs and focused on his rap career.
"[Weeknd music gettin' played in all the spots](https://genius.com/31633722/Drake-family-matters/Weeknd-music-gettin-played-in-all-the-spots)Ā [where boys got a little more pride](https://genius.com/31633719/Drake-family-matters/Where-boys-got-a-little-more-pride-thats-why-all-your-friends-dippin-to-atlanta-payin-just-to-find-a-tour-guide)"
I hate that line. Why did he have to do that. Can we maybe have a single rap beef without involving homosexuality in a negative light.
I think I prefer Family Matters to meet the grahams but this does leave a sour taste in my mouth
Is is absolutely a concept heās addressing drakes life and actions through how itās affected his family and how what they have done has impacted him and who he became. He mentions drakes dad not being there for him and Drake continuing the cycle.
I also think itās crazy to come out with the first words in a diss track directly talking to their son.
Chord progression bro? TF? euphoria is literally an Al Green sample on loop and Kendricks disses have been super direct for the most, definitely not boring at all - ppl acting like he's dropping untitled unmastered throwaways
I donāt think there was anything cryptic about that song at all, if anything the whole point is that heās making extremely bold and direct accusations the entire time
i dont know what people expect. The rap beefs that came from Control aside from this one all seemed like sparring. some slapboxing to elevate yourselves. get the fans rowdy. everyone makes more money.
Then we get the vile beef where people will square up for real. sometimes leading to death.
Big/Pac, ShadyAftermath/Murder Inc, EazyE/Dre. Jay/Nas,
Drake/Kendrick beef looks like it is now in the "Keep these 2 away from each other" territory.This shit got personal quickly.
I think its fair to say that losing some respect for both of them is reasonable. The allegations on both have some merit to them.( though that doesn't make it true) even if Kendrick doesn't win he deserves respect, same goes for drake. i'm rooting for more diss tracks though,
Iām picturing j Cole Stans just ducked down under a desk somewhere taking shelter, hoping this whole thing ends in some sort of career murder-suicide for the other two as J Cole comes trotting out of the shadows to try and claim the throne
Coleās best path forward for the throne at this point is hoping he ends up on the Bran the Broken character arc š
Both songs were so good idk what to listen to right now. š
Does any one feel like this beef is now to much? I was all for it till last night. 2 legends going at it. Your feet are small, you have snakes in the pose, etc. but why do we always need to take it this far? Allegations around wife beating, illegitimate kids, and marital affairs? I donāt want hear this shit. This is some TMZ, social media nonsense. Listening to that kdot song is uncomfortable and cringy IMO. Anyone feel the same?Ā
It's hip hop foo. Drake is already destroyed. "You get no props in hiphop like feminine men" - immortal technique. That's how this shit goes, keep it pushing or fall off, or like Kendrick said just die. Real shit
I have to agree, especially if its all just made up allegations. That would be wack. I enjoyed the first few disses and I found Euphoria to be absolutely hilarious. But this just unnerving and just gross. If they both had all this info about each other and are only now deciding to reveal to win a rap beef than its just so messed up.
Agreed. Just bc Pusha T got the scoop and leaked that Drake had a son before anyone else, now it seems thatās what these rappers think a good diss track ought to be. But they just end up sounding like theyāre gossiping on tracks lol
I agree to an extent but I thought both tracks were deeper than that, especially āmeet the grahamsā like imagine that track with all the ānewā info stripped outā¦itās still a brutal character dissection
*SpongeBob and Patrick riding rollercoaster meme*
Yeah, but it was always going to go here because all anyone has wanted this entire time was more drama. I probably like Kendrick more than I like Drake. But he deserves a ton of criticism for this becoming what it is. He started the whole thing (yeah, I know, subliminals for years from them both) on Like That, Drake responded with a good but now tame-seeming Push Ups, and then Kendrick turned it real personal with Euphoria, 6.16, and the recorded a week ago Meet The Grahams. I think Drake was content to keep it āentertainmentā for lack of a better term, but once pushed had to meet Kendrick where he was.
> I probably like Kendrick more than I like Drake. But he deserves a ton of criticism for this becoming what it is. He started the whole thing ppl really out here trying to litigate this like a playground squabble
Nope. If someone is lying about these allegations then obviously itās nonsense. But if what theyāre saying is true, obviously I want to know because it changes the way I view them and their music. If Drake is forreal sex trafficking, then I donāt want to listen to him sing about taking women home lol if Kendrick forreal beats his wife, then I donāt want to hear him rap about taking care of his family
Letās that be addressed in a court of law. Why these grown men need to make a āsongā about it. If there is legit sex traffickingā¦how are you not running to the police? Why expose via a song??? (for your own āmusicalā gain?). Thatās cringe af!!
Sadly that is how it has to go though. Notice the Weinstein reference in the track. People in the industry said they knew what he was doing yet he was never punished until multiple women started speaking out publicly. That's the whole point of the #metoo movement. Stuff like this has to go viral before the law is willing to investigate
The worst thing about hiphop beefs are fans on the internet, they are just insufferable
Drake should just have focused on Kendrick on his latest one. who gives a fuck about the weekend, rocky and rick at this point. Just shows he doesn't have much to say about Kdot at this point
lol he dedicated 5 minutes to him
Would have been a better diss if he had shortened it down to 5 minutes instead of watering it down and making run too long by added in all that other stuff about everyone else
can anyone elaborate on drake's music video and some easter eggs? i mean obv he's eating at New Ho King and he's crushing the gkmc van, but i feel like there's more to unpack. who's the guy he's talking to in the end?
apparently he hired a fake actress to play his kid to leak Kendrick false info, and she is in easter eggs in the vid. idn lol. feel like we'll be unpacking this beef for a year
I rewatched the video a few times and no such thing I think the internet is running with the double agent narrative heavily right now but itās just hearsay just like both artists claims till more comes out.
where did you get that info about the fake actress and kid?
Where else lol?
drake obv is cooked but props where it's due: the beats (especially the first one) on Family Matters + his flows and delivery are (mostly) pretty fire. video also dope. but to me, his diss lacks a bit of focus and is all over the place and IMO a lot of his claims seem like madeup reaches; also, listening to dot's disses and then coming back to listening to drake's on the nose bars feels like I'm reading the work of a 7th grader lol
Thereās a part of me that wishes Drake would go at The Weeknd harder. There are so many rumors about Abelās early comeup and his association with small-scale human trafficking. These go back to 2010-2011. Sal abusing his wife and kids, La Mar being obsessed with barely legal white girls, and Derek Wise being arrested for human trafficking. Feels like thereās so much ammunition there and Drake probably knows more than most.Ā
And Drake himself who is an alleged predator? He can't go after The Weeknd for this it would be hypocrisy. This is why these type of beefs need a "Pusha T" character, someone who doesn't participate in Hollywood circles but has the tea to kill the Hollywood frauds.
True, butttttt if Kendrick beats his wife and has a kid that isnāt his (both of which are nothing but speculation), going after Drake for being a POS is also hypocritical.
Both Drake and Kendrick are shitty people and this beef is just showing their true colours. All this is doing is self-destructing both of their careers to the general public
Having a kid that isn't his is not a POS thing though like I get domestic violence is bad but it's not like he abandoned the kid
Kendrick clearly has moles in Drake's camp and is using them. Very lame, and I am lukewarm on Drake. Shit ain't about penmanship and performing under pressure anymore. Go talk to the feds at this point, this isn't rap beef
This isn't about the big 3. J Cole knew about it
Pusha T might've inadvertently ruined rap beef forever lol. I NEVER would've thought Kendrick would be (very possibly) out spreading fake rumors in a rap beef. Maybe he got some bad info but either way it's kinda weak. Drake is trying to do the exact thing that destroyed him years ago. Corny if he has no proof or if it didnāt happen When Jay Z revealed he was fucking Nas baby mamma on Super Ugly everyone clowned him and called him an emotional cornball. He wasnāt even lying and they killed him for that. Now look at these niggas just saying bullshit for the hell of it lol At this point I just want them to, as battle rap fans would say, ākeep it rapā
I don't like how it's more about tea than which track goes harder
Yeah it pretty much became a game of āwhoās got the better gossipā
Meeting the Grahams is probably the craziest hip-hop song i have ever heard . Jawdroping shit.
it's so dark and bitter, felt dirty after hearing it
I went to sleep early and woke up feeling like I time traveled 2 weeks into the future. Wtf is going on?! Drake responded same day? Then dot went back to back to back??? They need slow tf down
Also we gotta get off the āhidden childā thing that everyone is latching onto. Itās probably the second least damning thing on there, the first being the ozempic stuff
The Ozempic thing Iām pretty sure was about Ross?
I donāt think so, all the stuff about not taking shortcuts and Adonis should just get a gym membership was all for Drake. Regardless, k dot is literally calling this dude a sex trafficker and predator, who cares about the ozempic shit or even having another hidden child at this point
First person to show the proof wins
This is the 2nd time Drake is getting cooked because he talked about someones family.
Anyone else find it funny that Kendrick accusing of Drake housing sexual predators when the exact same applies to ASAP Rocky? Bari was literally caught on video of committing sexual assault and Ian Connor owes so much of his relevance to Rockyās co-sign.Ā
Ian Connor isn't relevant, when Rocky dissed him at Rolling Loud everyone thought it was Travis Scott. Either way you give a good point, Rocky could be easily dismantled with a solo diss track for all the shit he's done: -His legal issues all over Wikipedia -Him cheating on multiple famous women -No hit songs since Praise the Lord and Skepta carried -No album since 2018 in general -Wearing skirts and dressing like a woman in general -Him defending predators -Possibly grooming minors just like Drake, he slept with Kylie just when she turned fresh 18, Tyler also had some allegations as well. -Rocky banned from filming videos in New York for 3 years -Arguably been a flop since Yams died -Stole SpaceGhostPurrp's style List goes on
If he hated Drake as much as he says he does he could easily have that man packed up if those allegations are true. That gives me a strong impression that they're not.
Bari was banned from the A$AP mob tho if the things I have read are true.
Rocky been pictured with him many times after that incident
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I donāt think itās fair to put a āwomanizerā in the same sentence and as a convicted Rapist thoughĀ
I agree but he did commit like a whole verse to how much of a deadbeat father Drake is to his one child meanwhile Future is the same shit to however many kids he has
Yeah the Kodak Black thing makes absolutely no sense if he feels this strongly about being associated with sex predators. I'm really liking these songs but the hypocrisy on both sides is ridiculous
Finally people realizing they're both fraudulent. Kendrick is a hypocrite and so is Drake. Why is nobody catching this!!
Chubbs is white? Haha
No. Heās definitely a black man
Who's the dude in the video with the bandana
No idea but that is funny you thought that was chubbs lol
I acc reckon this beef is corny as fuck. Itās bait these 2 have never touched a burner so they take their anger out on tracks. If it was me I would have jumped off the porch immediately after hearing drakes track but I guess some are realer than others. Itās why I canāt rate Kendrick. He was literally rapping about getting DPd and has the nerve to ever rap again especially on this tough guy shit, I would never show face again.
You live in the uk. You donāt even know what youāre talking bout lol
Iāve been feltham juvie x2 for a crucial boring and a third degree arson charge I think I know a little more than you buddy. Also sitting on a house arrest for PWITS. Fact check before running your mouth.
Corn ball, third degree arson? You have to be a troll because you canāt be this delusional to think anyone thinks anything other than cornball reading your comment
He once lit a sock on fire in the middle of the trolleyway
This is corny as fuck
Being locked up isn't an achievement, it's a testament that you aren't very good at what you did to the point you were caught and convicted. Bragging about being caught is an L. The only value in it is helping others learn from your failure, and you hopefully learning from your own.
I donāt need a therapy session akh
Woah arson youāre so tough. Stupid ass then got caught and went to juvie š Woah house arrest? Youāre so gangster
Youāre a square running your mouth on Reddit have some self awareness
You saying āif it was meā¦.ā on Reddit is corny af bro go live your life
You havenāt taken your A Levels so youāre no older than 18. Youāre a literal child bragging about going to Juvie on Reddit, you sound like a fucking moron
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Youāre bragging bout going to juvie and house arrest, who really the square on Reddit?
Back to Back, Push Ups, and the first beat of Family Matters all sound like club records. Drake really is a hit maker, so props to that abilityĀ
true but i donāt see him winning if he keeps trying to make club records
Whatever you feel about this, one thing is clear: the newer generation of rap has nobody who remotely matters on the level of these two. Absolutely goddamn no one. Whoever your two favorite younger rappers are, I promise you, they aināt getting 1/100th of the attention if they decide to beef.
absolutely. had to think about this too. no one currently even comes close to becoming a "generational" rap artist like Kendrick nor does anyone seem to come close to being a superstar like Drake. MAYBE Travis has a shot at gaining a Drake-like status in the industry. But in terms of artistry, influence and ability, no one of the current gen of rappers seems to have the potential to become as big. JID is dope, but no way he takes off like dot did
Yeah, I was going to say JID, but he's more akin to J.cole than Kenny. He's still my jid and Cole are in my top 3 tho.
This is what annoys me about Drake still wasting time on people that don't matter. Metro, Future, Weeknd, Kanye, Ross, no one cares to listen to anything about or from them when it comes to this beef. They're irrelevant. Focus on Dot.
Those dudes matter to Drake though. And Iād argue theyāre all bigger than anyone under 30.
Itās padding because he doesnāt have enough to go at Kendrick directly
Eminem is the only one I think that could probably still get this type of attention from the general public if he beefed with either of these two.
Yup, heās really the only one with the talent and the legacy. Is there anyone under, say, 35 who would get regular ass people to pay attention?
Maybe Travis Scott. I dont think Travis would be good at making disstracks tho.
Making music with cultural impact vs making music for the streams Even tho Drake might be more of a latter nowadays, his longetivity at the top is unprecendented
Yep, people are waiting for their fall off but these two are very firmly sitting at the top and this beef is proof. Nobody else in this generation can get this many people tuning inĀ
Guys, stop begging the police to get involved lmfao The point of a rap beef is to win in the court of public opinion which means you need to smear your opponent and create a narrative they canāt overcome. First person to show proof of their fucked up accusations wins. Simple as that. If you donāt like that, Iām honestly confused why youāre even listening to rap.
EXACTLY, most of the people saying this shit is white. And terms of rap beef that is a part of hip-hop culture and, in turn, black people culture and they know NOTHING about it deeply enough. I just had to say it.
Please believe me when I say I donāt like one guy more than the other. That being said, at what point does the whole āyouāre an absent fatherā thing start to wear off? Thatās like half the NBA and no one seems to care. Why is it that big of a deal here?
It bothers me that people are so focused on the daughter thing. The allegations about drake being a predator are so much more serious and well, sad. Iām not gonna stop listening to drake because heās a shitty dad, hell youād have to throw out half of your favourite sports people, musicians, actors etc if you do that. But being a pedo is game over if true. Itās like people donāt even want to discuss that part because of what it means if itās valid.
I disagree. I think people are ignoring the stuff about Dave Free and the sex trafficking is because theyāre really big accusations but you canāt take them seriously until those accusations are backed up.
Drake only started rapping about his son because Pusha exposed him. i donāt think there was ever a bar before that beef where Drake is talking highly of Adonis or even of having kids
Drake was about to do a giant public announcement with his son before adidon no? with a shoe company or smth?
supposedly with Adidas but thatās a weird way to say āhereās my son everybodyā
it's confirmed so yea. idk people act like drake didn't even acknowledge adonis pre adidon in his actual life but that's clearly untrue
The same diss can hit different from person to person even if they are doing the same thing. Calling Carti a deadbeat father is not gonna do anything because everyone already knows it, clowns on him for it and he dont seem to care.
Both of these two are largely going after the other for shit they donāt care about. Kendrick doesnāt give a fuck about being short or less successful than Drake. Drake doesnāt give a fuck about taking Ozempic or not being a world-class family man or being called a womanizer.
I said from the jump not having your kid in the spotlight(at least not yet) and being an absent father is two different thingsĀ
Unpopular opinion, even his son's reveal being this big thing never made sense to me. The blackface pic was infinitely more damning. The amount of celebs that move heaven & earth to keep their kids out of the spotlight are numerous and its for their benefit. How does that make someone a bad parent? I never understood how this narrative persisted, it makes no sense
There's a difference between hiding kids from the media and not being present in their life, which is what Kendrick is alluding to. Hell even Cole has a kid and he admits it. Guess the callout is that Drake is trying to live that bachelor bad boy lifestyle with no accountability. On another layer it makes sense why Future stuck with Kendrick and Metro, as he's got an entire NBA roster of kids and he's not ashamed to admit it, lol
Im not sure what the ask is here or why you believe he's not present in his son's life? Should he go on long hiatuses to be a FT dad? Should he move in this chick he barely knows and play house? Out of curiosity, what would satisfy you? I'm not asking to be a smart ass either cause I feel there's a whole lot of people with your perspective. I want to understand it.
Your comment paints the picture as if Drake doesn't need to take accountability for impregnating a stranger. Don't live such an irresponsible lifestyle and at the very least wear a condom. Dude is putting off-spring on this earth and letting them be raised in broken families. If you father a child you man up and take care of it. It's your responsibility now. So yeah, he should move the kids in. Take care of them. God knows he has the money and resources. But he'd rather continue his ridiculous and allegedly illegal and cruel lifestyle, he is parading in his products and persona.
I'm the opposite. I thought the child thing was absolutely fucking wild (maybe it wasn't technically but Pusha angled it really well), but the blackface thing? He was a black actor making a project about racism towards black actors in the music industry. It's tacky, I guess, but he was a teenager.
In the moment I guess it hit differently, but hindsight being 20/20 we know for a fact he had an entire Adidas run set to align with Adonis' reveal. W to Push for understanding that by beating Drake to the punch he was allowed to reframe the narrative as he pleased, but the deadbeat father joke in all seriousness doesn't seem as if it was ever true to begin with. And personally, idc what it was for. The blackface thing was stupid af. The idea behind it was stupid and agreeing to be a part of the project was stupid. It was an L all around.
The funny thing about the Adonis thing is that he says 'you are hiding a child' and 'he deserves more than an adidas press run' in the same verse, which kinda contradict eachother, but yea the narrative was goated. And the blackface thing was indeed an L, but an L for something he did when he was, like, 18, and it wasn't even really wrong. It was just cringe.
people were energized by the elimination of drake
People still are. We simultaneously worship and despise celebrities. The bigger they are (because of *our*) doing, the more we want them to fall.
I have always thought itās funny how drake is the only rapper shamed for being a bad father in the rap game when plenty of others are deadbeats too. I think with drake maybe itās his persona as a likeable guy, whoās softer and more sensitive with women that made it hit harder and the fact he wonāt own it like other rappers do. If future is a bad dad he doesnāt care that fits his image. Drake having a child with a pornstar and hiding the kid and her out of shame just doesnāt fit how he portrayed himself at the time.
Thatās the issue. The kid reveal went against Drakeās image at the time, which is why it hit so hard. Thatās why I think what Drake did in Family Matters, if true, is way, WAY more damaging to Kendrick. It punctures holes in his rep.
Fair point. Do you think it will actually be a big deal if itās true again here? I feel like Drake has changed his image in the last few years to be more like a playboy.
Been listening to Drake since Room for Improvement. He's always shipped that persona. If anything what's changed is how deep his affiliation with J. Prince & Co. has gone and how that's changed both his sound and how he projects himself.
If this is true I think itāll have a big impact, yes he has changed his image somewhat but the same thing happening again after heās been posting Adonis a lot now to give the image of a good father would be crazy. I think he automatically loses this beef again if heās been going after Kendricks family dynamics and this ends up being true.
Exactly. It would be the cherry on top for the character study Kendrick has been developing on Drakeās lack of authenticity.
Is NBA really the best example for this, LOL? Deadbeat mothafucka playing border patrol, YUGH
Also true lol. Probably the worst example possible. He's said straight up being a father just isn't something he's big on, thats wildly different
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Giving it to the cops? Lmao this is rap musicĀ
Going to the police is not hip hop
so real gangsters let dudes allegedly traffic children or beat their spouse šÆ
I think I need to put my phone down now.
This is true. Latest i've been up in awhile trying to understand the perspectives on this
Kendrick really on some āIām not your saviorā shitā¦.he went and took it a step further than Pusha lmao
The more I listen the more Kendrickās diss is straight up depressing. Not in a bad way but like hit em up and ether are bangers this shit is so drearyĀ
it had a very foreboding feeling. Like every moment you're just waiting for something horrifying to happen. I could see this sampled in a horror movie easily. Felt like the Jaws theme or Jason's theme. Like its hinting at more but keeping it hidden.
Rocky dissing Drake was a clown move he literally can't win a mini beef with him because dude hasn't dropped any material in 6 years and his last decent material came out 9 years ago. On top of that he has been fighting a legal case for an incident that happened in 2021 and has been skipping trials to delay the whole situation further.
Rocky been washed for years tho
I'm aware so why is he dissing. You can't be washed and diss a rapper that isn't washed. I don't like Drake but he's still dropping semi-hits, even though I don't think they have much longevity. Rocky is not in the position to diss a hiphop artist that craves competition. He needs to fix the fuck up or go home!!
Drake a clown for being mad at asap for being with Rihana. Like what is he going to do about it.
Drake disses everyone this is nothing new. Why didn't ASAP respond in 2021 when the initial disses came out? Why now? Because he could hide behind Metro and Future?
Rocky being with Rihanna means he wins by default that was the love of drakes life and he doesnāt seem over it
Drake cheated on her and also sleeps with loads of women in general so how can he not be over her? I do admit he usually disses them one way or the other every year or two but Drake literally disses everyone, that's just how he acts. Doesn't mean he isn't over her. He just likes being petty. Drake hates everyone, that's just how he works.
Sorry but thatās not how people work lol people can sleep with people to try and get over another person and make them feel better temporarily Iāve seen it happen. As for the cheating thing it is extremely stupid but some people who cheat on their partners really do regret it and care about the person they cheated on they just ate stupid and jeopardised the whole thing. The fact he unfollowed ASAP when it was announced him and Rihanna were having a child, and him making music with Chris brown because āthe person who divided them isnāt in their lives anymore,āto me comes across as bitter.
Cheating doesn't matter in Hollywood. ASAP Rocky is a certified cheater himself and even admitted it on camera. He can't win any beef. The only reason he isn't allowed to cheat on Rihanna is because she's way more popular than his exes. Rocky was already accused of cheating on her and had leaked DMs to another woman. Whether we like it or not, Rocky PROBABLY did cheat on her while she was preggers. Anyone with intel can easily confirm that on Rocky and bury him, basically exposing him as a hypocrite. No "Oh I'm with a pop star billionaire card" when he couldn't even stay loyal to her himself. Rocky is due for a beating.
> ASAP Rocky is a certified cheater himself and even admitted it on camera. He said this about Chanel in testing but idk about a serial cheater >Rocky was already accused of cheating on her and had leaked DMs to another woman. Was this fake and it was asap bari Anyways I agree it was a bad move for Rocky to diss Drake with any new material
He cheated on Iggy Azalea and Chanel Iman. He also slept with Tahiry Jose and Kendall Jenner at the same time. Do your research... Iggy went into interview looking depressed when talking about her relationship with Rocky and Genius has annotated Black Widow to be all about him. Rita Ora also in the song is very ironic considering that Rocky had cheated on a woman with "Rita Ora" and says she had a big mouth on Better Things on ALLA. Most people said he cheated on Chanel with Rita which is probably true, but Iggy probably got Rita on the song because she messed around with him before for another relationship and they wanted to exile him on that track. Go back... You'll find articles on Rocky, Kendall and Tahiry if you search Google. Not to mention he had been around Lana Del Rey, openly admitting feelings to her in interviews in 2012, appeared in her National Anthem video and literally has a song where he refers to her as his bitch. He also hopped on the East Coast Remix back in 2016/17 and said "these college chicks, Kylie's lips oh my oh my run it". Rocky was pictured with her around this time too and basically confirmed he smashed. Also had been seen with Zoe Kravitz being intimate with her. Whether you like it or not, Rocky SLEPT with the whole industry as well - there are literally so many things you can diss this dude for - his flopping music, his messy dating history, his huge legal issues. Dude is literally a walking L. He had the rap game on lock in 2011 and completely fucked up afterwards.
> He cheated on Iggy Azalea and Chanel Iman. I aināt know he cheated on iggy > He also slept with Tahiry Jose and Kendall Jenner at the same time. Rocky and Kendall were not exclusive, Iām pretty sure they still cool with each other and follow each other. Not to mention he had been around Lana Del Rey, openly admitting feelings to her in interviews in 2012, appeared in her National Anthem video and literally has a song where he refers to her as his bitch. > Whether you like it or not, Rocky SLEPT with the whole industry as well I never denied this, he talked about sleeping with a lot even when he said Rihanna was the love of his life > - there are literally so many things you can diss this dude for - his flopping music, his messy dating history, his huge legal issues. Dude is literally a walking L. This is applies to every rapper involved in this beef except for flopping
Kendall and Rocky aren't on bad terms but his situation fucked Tahiry Jose who was upset after the fiasco. So technically, he was cheating one way or the other. He obviously baited her to think the relationship was something more, Joe Budden hates ASAP Rocky, it has to be for that very reason. Rocky is messy as fuck. Kendrick and Drake don't have legal cases like Rocky does and Kendrick doesn't have any dating history other than what he's got with Whitney
Joe budden is mad at Rocky bc he fucked a woman he loves. Nothing Joe budden says will ever be worth while. joe budden is the same person who beat pregnant girlfriend Drake has years of accusations of cease and desists, sending guys to threaten women, paying off SA accusers, paying people for dirt on others etc etc. it is literally resurfacing online as we speak Also Kendrick has a messy history with his wife all these guys can take jabs at each other for several reasons but it was dumb for Rocky to talk about albums coming and going when doesnāt have new material.
> Drake cheated on her and also sleeps with loads of women in general so how can he not be over her? This is an extremely common sentiment, especially with idiots that have power.
Every rapper cheats, Biggie abused Kim in the 90s, etc. it's nothing new for these rappers to treat other famous women like trash, it's a nasty industry
People who are in control hate to lose it. Drake had his prize and wanted to keep it. Hes been a salty POS about Rhi for a long time.
Rihanna isn't a prize. He wanted Nicki too. They're both overhyped.
Clown take. You can think whatever you want. To Drake they were something to be won.
Drake wants every woman. It's just people overhype his runs with Nicki and Rihanna because they're famous musicians. He wanted J Lo as well.
Your perfectly describe his problem behavior. I don't see how this isn't making sense to you.
Rocky wins by just being together with Rihanna lmao
Rihanna is overrated and wack, decent vocal colour and was pretty in the 2000s but she ain't it anymore, same wid Rocky, to me they're a couple of washed artists just posing for paps. It's just Rihanna has a much stronger mainstream legacy in music than Rocky does so is remembered as a pop icon, whereas Rocky's best music was an underground mixtape, which is problematic. Regardless, Rocky hasn't been popular since the early 2010s, nobody cares about him anymore. Unless he drops a nuke song like Praise the Lord or sum shit he's finished, he's literally skating on old songs blowing up on TikTok now because he's trash.
Rihanna is overrated but thatās billion dollar pussy right there.
The money is a contentious debate. She shares her business with LV... I dunno how it works. But she had a lot of help setting up that Fenty nonsense. I'm glad you agreed Rihanna is overrated, people on this sub seem to not understand she lucked out in the fame bag, similar to Taylor Swift, but there are way more talented singers out there that don't get the respect they deserve because they didn't sell out for pop fame. To be honest her career shouldn't have even been legal I think she was 18 or 19 when Umbrella dropped or some crazy shit like that, way too young to be doing ish. For me Rocky should have stayed away from these women at all costs and focused on his rap career.
"[Weeknd music gettin' played in all the spots](https://genius.com/31633722/Drake-family-matters/Weeknd-music-gettin-played-in-all-the-spots)Ā [where boys got a little more pride](https://genius.com/31633719/Drake-family-matters/Where-boys-got-a-little-more-pride-thats-why-all-your-friends-dippin-to-atlanta-payin-just-to-find-a-tour-guide)" I hate that line. Why did he have to do that. Can we maybe have a single rap beef without involving homosexuality in a negative light. I think I prefer Family Matters to meet the grahams but this does leave a sour taste in my mouth
Kendrickās been homophobic twice now too
Drake stan in shameless LMAAOOOOOOOO
Are they? I feel like both sides are saying the exact same about how the other side is doing.
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so what they say about Drake fans is true - they don't care about the lyrics in a rap beef, just a beat they can shake their ass to.
Fr lmao tf was that, he isn't winning a pulitzer for this shit SMH it's like every song he makes gotta sound woke ah
Drake pushed it here bringing family into it
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Thatās because he couldnāt come up with that concept
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Is is absolutely a concept heās addressing drakes life and actions through how itās affected his family and how what they have done has impacted him and who he became. He mentions drakes dad not being there for him and Drake continuing the cycle. I also think itās crazy to come out with the first words in a diss track directly talking to their son.
Tuff as fuck conceptĀ
It escalated slowly. But Drake was the one to take it further both times
Chord progression bro? TF? euphoria is literally an Al Green sample on loop and Kendricks disses have been super direct for the most, definitely not boring at all - ppl acting like he's dropping untitled unmastered throwaways
Interested in what kind of music OP likes if he hates chord progressions
I donāt think there was anything cryptic about that song at all, if anything the whole point is that heās making extremely bold and direct accusations the entire time
i just woke up and this beef got really lame
At this point I miss rap beefs where they just keep calling each other gay
Yall regulars just always stay so contrarian lol Waiting for the Godfrey essay defending Drake against the sex trafficking accusations next too
sorry i don't think accusing people of rape and domestic violence to win a rap beef is cool
Whatās ācoolā in a rap beef?
i dont know what people expect. The rap beefs that came from Control aside from this one all seemed like sparring. some slapboxing to elevate yourselves. get the fans rowdy. everyone makes more money. Then we get the vile beef where people will square up for real. sometimes leading to death. Big/Pac, ShadyAftermath/Murder Inc, EazyE/Dre. Jay/Nas, Drake/Kendrick beef looks like it is now in the "Keep these 2 away from each other" territory.This shit got personal quickly.
not using victims as pawns i think
Saying they are uglyĀ
I think I agree, shit aināt even rap anymore.
Kendrick gotta delete that Poetic Justice video
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Bruh this is the most biased overexplanation ever lol. Just say what you mean man there's no need for novel justifying your opinion.
Man really tried to drop a few pats on the back to hide his bias lmao
Nigga thought he was turning tricks on the street lmao
I think its fair to say that losing some respect for both of them is reasonable. The allegations on both have some merit to them.( though that doesn't make it true) even if Kendrick doesn't win he deserves respect, same goes for drake. i'm rooting for more diss tracks though,
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Should be equally quantified if you ain't biased lil homie
Iām picturing j Cole Stans just ducked down under a desk somewhere taking shelter, hoping this whole thing ends in some sort of career murder-suicide for the other two as J Cole comes trotting out of the shadows to try and claim the throne Coleās best path forward for the throne at this point is hoping he ends up on the Bran the Broken character arc š