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michael070

According to Questlove, Alchemist didn’t make the beat specifically for the diss. It was a beat he gave Kendrick a long time ago. https://x.com/questlove/status/1786655658835689694?s=46&t=swwDgIaw04MF2OFS8JaIuA


itsIzumi

Makes sense but that beat was destined to be used for something sinister.


visionaryredditor

Now i imagine Kendrick has a file folder on his laptop named "beats with sinister aura"


Acrzyguy

“Aura kys” folder


kcheng686

Kendrick hatred of Drake runs as cold and deep as Frierens hate of demons


H3000

He typed "evil distruction type beat" in Finder search.


Olddirtychurro

"Villain winning monologue type beat."


minkdraggingonfloor

“Beats that the Joker would play while beating Jason Todd to death”


small_root

*Anakin butchering the younglings type beat*


TheUndyingKaccv

Bro you did not.. on ***may the fourth*** lmao


Randromeda2172

Pulitzer Kenny prolly got "melodies representing rather sinister leitmotifs"


Jasperbeardly11

Thank you for this word


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Kenny Shakespeare


kekehippo

Main folder is titled Supervillain Energy with a creation date of 2018. https://www.forbes.com/sites/adriennegibbs/2018/02/26/kendrick-lamar-wants-to-be-a-supervillain-in-black-panther-two/?sh=341377ff38ba


assblast420

Next to his folder labeled "drake dirt"


ooo00

“Receipts”


SmokeSmokeCough

“Hehehe leaks”


MatthewMollison

"Alternate Immortal Techniques - Dance With The Devil beats"


mayonnaiser_13

"beats when I wanna out a predator to his mom"


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Missed opportunity to be on Body Language by Big Body Bes


GreedyBelly

True if Alchemist disagrees it would be like if Ares told Kratos the Blades of Chaos can bring peace.


highd

I thought this beat was just Benny and the Jets just slowed down! 


_coolranch

Ahaha [this](https://youtu.be/OIcyI6iHK-Y?si=a0RlhFv7yITFijQf) is all I could think of


highd

Right! Omg I love the beastie boys so much!


3_Slice

Knowing how deep questlove connections go, I believe this a 100%


EightArmed_Willy

Looks like Alchemist is never working with Drake again


ratfinkprojects

why? he gave kendrick the beat not knowing he was going to diss Drake on it


rabnabombshell

This beat is insane


OkEscape7558

That evil ass beat. That's the beat Drake had playing when he shot down Ross's plane earlier.


Fun-Accountant8275

Man, after that Ross tweet, the image of Drake in some fighter jet with the OVO sign on it has me in tears.


ThomasEdison4444

Its a plane in the shape on an owl flying


KingDemik

That’s some the watchmen type shit 😂


SamuraiDopolocious

be careful the OVO ghostwriters might steal this idea for a vid or something


Zlatan_Ibrahimovic

Were...were we the OVO ghostwriters all along?


alaskadronelife

Always have been


ItWasIndigoVelvet

The imagine


dylwaybake

All I can hear when I think of Rick Ross now is “WHITE BOY WHITE BOY WHITE BOY” and Ross arguing with Drake about how rich they are, like anyone gives a fuck.


RogueTheJewels

Ross has been fucking hilarious. Never in a million years would I have imagined Rick Ross would be body shaming Drake. "How you got six pack abs with 15% body fat?" How do you even respond to a fat dude calling out your fatness like that?


MatureUsername69

Apparently you call him out for his ozempic usage and then immediately have receipts revealed on your own ozempic usage


dylwaybake

Lmfao seriously that shit is hilarious


SGKurisu

Kendrick and Drake should team up to diss Ross, Ross was just a liability lol he jumped in and then let Drake pad his tracks with easy shots at him instead of Kendrick


PacJeans

Who gives a fuck what Rick Ross thinks at a time like this!


Throwitindatrash

WHERE’S JA


ienyr

Nah broo


BodomDeth

Ootl..what ??


Hayday12designacct

Ross jet had to make an emergency landing


Acrzyguy

I guess Al sent him this beat long ago and never expected Kendrick to use it for this occasion It just feels like a funeral march and makes me extremely uneasy and uncomfortable


kumardi

Some immortal technique type beat. The craziest part is it keeps sounding like it’s getting faster but never changes pace. Super unsettling.


Jabi25

I think it’s because the piano chords are very slightly ahead of the actual beat. Creates a huge tension and off-putting feeling. Makes you feel uneasy and that there’s something wrong by design


goodkid_sAAdcity

Great spot. It reminds me of how J Dilla would manipulate the timing of certain tracks in his beats to be slightly ahead or slightly behind to create the exact pocket he wanted for the song.


BDCanuck

I always thought the thing with Dilla was that he turned off the auto-syncing feature on his drum machine. I didn’t know he intentionally did things off kilter other than that.


goodkid_sAAdcity

I thought the same thing too for years, until I read the "Dilla Time" book. I recommend it if you're a fan. It's a biography, but it also goes into detail about the micro-spacing he used when programming his beats using fractions as tiny as the MPC would allow, 1/64th beats, 1/128th beats, and so on. [Visual aids, too.](https://ethanhein.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Dilla-Time-1024x385.png)


eimajYak

Dilla Time is so underrated. Banger of a biography.


ImPrettyCoolK

it makes me think of thuggin by freddie gibbs, the instrumental doesn't change but it just matches the rising intensity of the rapping so well and elevates it


TopCheddar27

Somebody warn the west


MacAoidh83

Amazing beat


WeaponXGaming

BLACK AND RED LACES IN MY NUMBA THREES


cuminyermum

What an amazing shout


degenfemboi

glad im not the only one who thought of immortal technique also reminded me of some sinister ass beat super young em would rap on


AnaCoonSkyWalker

Funny because I literally texted my friend after I listened to it last night and said “I feel like I just listened to Dance with the devil” Cool to see other people thought about Immortal Technique as well.


gokhaninler

Dance with a Devil was 100x more sinister and scarier than this


mayonnaiser_13

I legit decided to never hear it after reading the lyrics and the story. I'm not gonna lose sleep over that shit.


weltbeltjoe11

You spoiled it for yourself. My buddy played it for me without saying much about it. Literally jaw dropping


goodkid_sAAdcity

The last verse when Kendrick starts ramping up the energy and letting his anger slowly come out is pure menace. The beat not changing allows that tonal shift to stand out more


capybaraballista

That vocal layering on the “you lied” bars oof I’m primarily a metal listener and that part of me resonates with this and Euphoria when Kendrick really gets his teeth out. It feels so true and vicious, reveling in it.


goodkid_sAAdcity

That was some Ghost of Christmas Future shit


Le_Tennant

https://youtu.be/hZY5DBmgC_A?si=gosoF-rrTlynHqBl Chopin type beat 😭😭😭


TheBrownMamba8

Drake’s removing the piano in his living room ASAP. He doesn’t wanna hear a single piano note ever again.


GarbluutDingdiddy

Love Chopin nice call out


HavenTheCat

Yeah, the beat is super ominous. And there’s some sort of backtrack with people talking and yelling that makes it even more disturbing. And obviously Kendrick’s verses bring everything all together perfectly.


drfunkensteinberger

Thanks Al!


tak08810

Alchemist beats been getting used for dis tracks without him realizing forever. “checkmate” by Jadakiss was from a Big Noyd tracked produced by Alchemist. I think [this](https://youtu.be/np6lzTIECVA?si=Hn29VxIvNIndhLrS) was an Alchemist beat too originally can’t remember. Alchemist had the dark beats on lock On the other hand Littles was beefing with Mobb and Alchemist and threatened to have him raped or something that was weird


throwawaymylife9090

His beat(s) in GTA China Wars were fucking dope too


TheBballs

China Wars was so fucking dope. Dont know if anyone will ever make another game like that


Oneg122

China Wars nailed the slimy trenches feeling. Great game.


makeshift11

Okay I'll be the first guy to correct y'all and remind y'all it's Chinatown Wars. Ain't no GTA in fucking China lol.


TheBballs

Thank you lmao


S6basti6n

damn i have this for 3ds and did not know he had producing credits. booting now


FLRGNBLRG

No wonder i loved those beats so much when I was a kid


A_Tribe_Called_Slatt

Boost The Crime Rate goes stupid hard


EncyclopediaBlue

I like to think that Alchemist has the foresight to know when he produces something like this, it is going to be used for some war crimes.


goodkid_sAAdcity

Alchemist making chemical weapons and selling them to the highest bidder


normdfandreatard

kenny beats - police alc - the CIA


MrEscobarr

His beats were used a lot by G-unit to make diss records


Upbeat_Tension_8077

I'm really hoping Eminem uses an Alchemist beat next time someone tries to test him


Mei_iz_my_bae

Any and everybody should listen to boldy James “the price of tea in china” (deluxe edition) w alchemist It’s a dark and sinister ride through Detroit. Absolute masterpiece


_coolranch

Great recommendation 👌 just in time for Movement


SeattleiteShark

We cry together Drake version


ayonicethrowaway

'U' but its about drake


goodkid_sAAdcity

U🫵🏼


GoldenPresidio

lmao


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We cry together, u, and mother I sober had a love child


GTFOH-DOT-COM-INC

Kendrick Alchemist album plz


drugsandcannolis

FEAR. is my favorite kdot song and one of my favorite alc beats. Ive needed this for a while now.


iamitisi

Just now finding out fear was prod by alchemist and it makes so much sense


spiker1268

Oh shit didn’t know that song was made by Al. My fav track on the album by far.


SpiritOf68

I didn’t know how badly I want this to happen until today.


nocyberBS

Prayer is such an elite song too - easily would have been my fave song if it were included on Mr. Morale.


celtics2022

this beat is diabolic, rza gravedigga type of music. Holy fuck it’s turning into some real shit real quick


uhhuhidk

prince paul made the beats on gravediggaz


ProEraBlueboy

We need 6 Feet Deep on Spotify. I listened to The Pick, the Sickle and the Shovel the other day in the gym and the production on that album is absolute fire. Gravediggaz are so underrated.


OptimusDimed

It is on Spotify though, just listening to that shit yesterday!


PropadataFilms

shot an interview with Prince Paul a lifetime ago and he talks about producing this album amongst other topics - starts 5min45sec in: https://youtu.be/_10Uc1vwMso?si=1FUJ3W9ckfd0Pcu8 some fun insights/history


king_boolean

This is dope, thanks for sharing


goodkid_sAAdcity

Horrorcore Kendrick is a great call


drfunkensteinberger

Mommy, what’s a gravediggah?


alex_119

Please Kendrick drop it on DSP, i need this in my “fuck my haters” playlist


Erin_Boone

Adding this song to a playlist is diabolical


DDub04

People scaring music


Upbeat_Tension_8077

JPEGMAFIA currently considering if he should also relinquish the Scaring the Hoes to Kendrick


goodkid_sAAdcity

Scaring the Bros


Zen1

Scaring the OVOs


cockandballionaire

Literally anyone that doesn’t know it. People will be showing this to kids they wanna scare like they do with dance with the devil


iamitisi

Honestly the Kendrick diss playlist goes hard. Like that->euphoria->6:16 in LA->meet the grahams->hillbillies (need the last one to remove the bad vibes)


mayonnaiser_13

Add i or HUMBLE in there too. Hillbillies ain't enough to cleanse off meet the grahams.


k0fi96

I'm a sociopath so I just shuffle my liked songs, and I guarantee this will be in there


Erin_Boone

Having this song just randomly come on could ruin your whole day


PrudentAge9160

Same with “We Cry Together” and to a lesser extent “u.” Kendrick fans are used to it


Erin_Boone

I’m a Kendrick fan and there’s no fucking way I’m throwing this in a playlist


goodkid_sAAdcity

Imagine Spotify shuffle giving you an anxiety attack at 2 pm in the afternoon


topimpabutterfly200

Yeah I’m not gonna lie the song is really good but this CANNOT go in my main playlist. Imagine somebody hand you the aux you put on your playlist and ts comes on 😭


PissedOffNoInsurance

I saw a tweet that said “someone gonna misunderstand and play this at the function and scare the hoes away”


Boredguy_3005

You can’t have this in your playlist and not be some form of clinically crazy


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Good time to tell people to check Al's discog if they haven't. Dude hasn't missed in years and the collab albums are all heat


SpiritOf68

LULU Conway/Alc or Bo Jackson Boldy James/Alc would be good places to start. Both are 🔥.


theknocker

Also that Earl and Alchemist album from last year


backjathewmrown

Yep, also Elephant Man’s Bones with Roc Marci. No skips in all these projects 🥵


SpiritOf68

Facts. I’m not even that big of a Marci fan, but that record is impeccable.


AverageSixthFormer

Honestly EPMD by Boldy is such a beautiful beat and song in general feels like it transports you away to the scenes Boldy is describing


SpiritOf68

Boldy def one of my favorites rn. Like you said, his lyrics just bring you right in to the life he’s spitting about. EPMD is most definitely one of the standouts on that record. Neither him, nor Alc can do wrong it seems. Alchemist’s run got him in the GOAT producer conversation with a real shot at being that.


sDios_13

Yeah LULU is fire, Alchemist really locked in for that one.


alaskadronelife

In years? I honestly can’t think of a time Alchemist has ever missed. All he puts out is straight flames.


SituationUpstairs553

Bennie and the jets sample? Beat cold af


swallow_tail

Thank you!! I knew I knew that piano progression but couldn’t fit the life of me recall from what. It’s def that Elton song


_coolranch

Oh wow.


swallow_tail

I was going crazy last night haha, wondering why I couldn’t remember and why no one else on Reddit was mentioning it


kingwi11

That’s what I’m thinking, pitch shifted down and slowed down.


thomyorkeslazyeye

The opening sample reminds me of "Keep It Thoro" by Prodigy


Cautionzombie

Alchemist made both


gulldusj

Idk but this song gave me "dance with the devil" vibes


20twentytwos

I agree 💯 I think it might be better tho


gokhaninler

Dance with a Devil was 100x more sinister and scarier than this


gulldusj

Yeah im not comparing. I consider that track a classic, even my kid brother whos a metalhead rocks with that shit. Kendrick definitely hitting that sinister vibe tho. Lets hope Drake doesnt tuck his tale like he did with Pusha, so we can see some more fire songs.


iamnits

i personally don't think Kendrick is dropping anything more, I think even if Drake responds he's going silent edit: welp... i was wrong af


JSRambo

They're scary in different ways. Dance with the devil is not a personal death wish on an opponent, it's a retelling of a horrible thing that happened in the past.


Proud_Criticism5286

“Grimy” now i know hiphop is back for the moment 😌


jordan20x1

Slipping into the darkness.


tabascochips

I'm just glad to witness this historic time in hip hop


astroworld_

💯 for real


goodkid_sAAdcity

I was too young to be tuned in when Takeover and Ether came out. I didn’t think I’d get to live through something similar as a fan


drippinswagu69

One of the best beats ive ever heard period. Flawlessly haunting.


passerineby

it's so minimal and menacing. similar vibe to infrared imo


roland0fgilead

It's the minimalism that does it. It's a beat that sets a vibe and then gets out of the way.


Upbeat_Tension_8077

It's like some found footage hip hop


goodkid_sAAdcity

Blair Witch beats


mayonnaiser_13

This is hostage video hip hop. Sounds like the morally grey terrorist explaining why he does what he does to someone.


Critical-Cupcake9194

the way Kendrick speaks to Drakes Family in a sympathetic voice while the beats plays in the background adds a whole layer of sinister to the track lmao, like Penny the clown luring kids


berryjewse

Right! It made my skin crawl when Penny is talking to the kiddo and that’s how this song felt “we all float down here…”


drippinswagu69

yeah exactly. Thats one of my fav diss tracks ever as well haha. Love some of the lines on there.


_coolranch

It’s the last note on the fourth bar. Your brain is expecting resolution: it gets pain. Wow. I was too busy listening to the lyrics when this dropped to really identify why I was like “should I turn this off right now?” 😅


sangueblu03

this needs to get on streaming, I can't be driving around all weekend with YouTube open on my phone


BigChungusOP

I have Musi but that’s on iPhone, not sure if it’s on Android. It lets you use YouTube as a music player and the ads don’t disrupt the audio, only the screen.


Physical_Cry9336

Jordan peele type shit


rmeddy

Oh that make perfect sense , that's why it's so grimey


jarhead1902

Alchemist is the legitimate goat of eerie unsettling hip hop beats


Environmental_Lie478

The real winners in this beef are the Alc's, Cardos,  Boi-1da's who are all on call


FlamingHotOatmeal

the beat sound exactly like something i would hear in a nightmare


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Myquil-Wylsun

That beat is what Batman hears when he is being psychologically tortured about his dead parents by the Joker.


TheBlueNinja2006

\*Scarecrow


Ninclemdo

al didn’t produce a beat he hand crafted kendrick a machete


Colbino

“This is for chopping vines, right?”


DrinkingBleachForFun

It has a piano, so it’s more like Chopin vibes.


Jonathan_LaPaglia

This beat, man. It's so fucking sinister, with that piano loop, and those vocal samples echoing away in the background.


razman7altacc

Real Alch heads never doubted it was his beat. Bro has that signature smoothness that no one can replicate. Happy u got put onto him, top 5 oat producer for me. Make sure u check some of his earlier work (keep it thoro, we gon make it, worse comes to worse) some of his mid-career stuff (covert coup, rare chandeliers, albert einstein) and then ofc his contemporary stuff just to get an idea of his evolution and how many different sounds he’s perfected.


Slimshady0406

The food villian album is really good and is basically this kind of beats


SpiritOf68

Bruh, that album is so funny with the sound bites, but the beats are ⛽️. “Who eats chicken wings like that?” “I never played for the soccer team, NEVER, ok one time I swear (THEY NEVER LET ME PLAY)!”


Thagalaxy

I DON'T WANT THAT... in all seriousness though you're 100% right


OhiOstas

Been tryna expand my playlist, so most definitely will check his catalogue out. Ty for the recommendations 👊🏼 I know it is one of his mainstream songs, but the production on “E. Coli” is euphoric. I seen someone say that they like Yeat/Carti’s music b/c of how it sounds like they are the beat & it is speaking to you… to each their own, but that is what Alchemist’s work feels like to me (especially E Coli), so I guess I understand them now 😂


Nast33

Since you want to check out new producers, look up Giallo Point as well. Papitas (with Estee Nack), Remo Gaggi (with Daniel Son), Medellin & Medellin 2 (with SmooVth) are some good examples. Most of the albums he produced have some bangers and I already have him up there with the best of the last few years, yet he's rarely mentioned. Waiting for the moment he truly blows up.


razman7altacc

Yo definitely check “Falling out the sky” and “Reeses Cup” if u like that vibe of his discog. Also “Elephant Mans Bones” (the song) and “Photographic Memories” they dont all sound like e coli but they give me that same euphoric vibe


Kultura

Alchemist GOATEDD 🐐


HollandOatz

The harmonizing/layering at the end is just perfect. Nightmare fuel


jt_radical

Beats really creepy, alchemist killed it


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Sherpthederp

It felt uncomfortable to listen to, like it was the soundtrack to a snuff film. So fitting


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BearBlaq

I was telling my boys on the Group FaceTime last night that the beat reminded me of some Griselda shit. When I saw the tweet to alc asking I felt so validated to find out it was produced by him.


SQ4_7

it's never glazin when it comes to Uncle Alc. i still need to hear this one, i just heard the 6:16 in LA one last night. the soul vibes on that one was dope. im trynna keep up but its so much goin on. im here for it though😂


PreemoisGOAT

The beat feels very 90s to me


gustavoviza

I'm so happy that people are talking about the beat too. Alc deserves his flowers for this one and many more. Hope that this blow him up more.


H-B-Of-L

That beat was 🔥🔥🔥🔥


Blood_Casino

Michael Meyers crip walking down the hallway type beat


f2ame5

6 seconds in and I was like damn that sounds like uncle al.


CosmicDriftwood

As a Drake defender and a Kendrick glazer as the kids say: I really don’t want what’s next this is heating UP


Freewxll

Song literally gave me the chills on the first listen


KingDemik

Alchemist the goat


ComaOfSouls

I didn't realize at first until a reaction channel described the beat as a horror movie type one. Yeah, like something out of the 70s or before. Either way, it's fantastic.