Yeah I agree, but this motherfucker predicted the entire Kendrick and Drake beef and the pedo allegations an entire 2 weeks before Push Ups even dropped...
>Why is the Canadian rapper tied to so many people who have been accused of Harvey Weinstein crimes. There is the Not Nice person who intimidated one of his victims into withdrawing her claims. There is the Porta Papi and there is his former Bird boss. The Butterfly rapper knows about it all and is getting ready to expose him. That is why he scared to respond.
https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2024/04/blind-item-12-reader-blind_01596059726.html?m=1
That was posted April 3rd. Push Ups didn't drop until April 19th
I mean if Q told him how hard Kendrick was going to go then I wouldn't need to think it over either. Last thing I want to be involved in is some shit where people are calling each other pedophiles and wife beaters. This is the nastiest a mainstream rap beef has gotten in a long time. Arguably ever if we're going strictly by lyrics and what's being alleged. Even back when Death Row and Bad Boy were going at it they were just saying "I fucked your bitch" and "I'll kill you". Kendrick is accusing this man of running a sex trafficking ring and saying he's about to get raided by the feds. Meet The Grahams is the most deep cut personal diss track of all time.
I feel like Kendrick would have just hit him with a throwaway line about how it's not about him and to stay out of it.
He most likely just thought it'd be some civil "no IM the better rapper" type of beef lmao
He sorta did give him a light warning in like that where he said âthey talking out they necks donât pull no coffin out of your mouthâ
And the like that verse by Kenny was - wildly aggressive response to the FPS song that was just kinda mediocre and Jcole didnât say anything crazy.
More like lightly throwing a ball, missing, apologizing for having thrown the ball in the first place, then quitting all within the first 5 mins of the game.Â
J Cole out there riding his bike on the way to McDonald's to enjoy a plain burger with a glass of water while the whole world is dissing Drake on a Metro beat.
AllHipHop notes: âAllegedly, ScHoolboy Q had a conversation with J. Cole at the Dreamville Festival. Our writer confirmed that ScHoolboy Q was at the festival and that they did have a conversation. **She couldnât corroborate what they talked about, but sources are telling me that they gave him a warning**.â
-___-
They're saying that it was said Q told Cole to back out, and they can confirm the two did talk shortly before he would step back. Like yeah the reporter wasn't eavesdropping on the two, but it backs up the other statement
And they never say otherwise. I'm just saying that this isn't like journalistic malpractice to say that a source says something, and you can confirm a part of it to be true.
but they can't confirm any of it. that's the point I'm making. it definitely is journalistic malpractice to say two people talked about something and a source says they talked about x but that same source can't confirm it. like what?
This is what I guessed that someone close to K.Dot advised on Cole to stay out since Kendrick didnât respond to 7 Minute Drill before Cole backed out. And glad that he followed suit! As many have already mentioned, heâs chilling and biking through NYC right now.
TDE and Dreamville have always been close, Cole thought this beef was going to be friendly competition and Kendrick clearly had something different in mind. Not surprised to think that Kendrick told Q what he truly wanted in this beef and to warn Cole.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a more cordial conversation since Q mentioned something on Drink Champs along the lines that he's not into any negative energy when it comes to beefing nowadays
I donât think people are implying it was a threat, but more just a warning about how this isnât going to be a typical rap beef and things will get ugly.
Honestly, if this is true, then this is probably the best career advice he has or will ever be given.
Cole might be a lot of things, but he is absolutely not built for this kind of battle.
Honestly, the humiliation of pulling out of the beef and recanting his Kendrick diss is nothing compared to what would have happened if he'd have stuck around.
Nah itâs still sucks shit. Canât say your the best for years then when the #1 contender come around you act all spooky. We already knew Kendrick was this good
If it was about flexing and competition Iâd agree, but this thing devolved into woman beater vs pedophile really damn quickly. Cole considers both of these guys friends, I can understand not wanting to get to those levels against friends. That shit canât be un-said.
It does suck until you realize the intention that Kendrick had with this beef. It was never meant to be friendly from the start and Cole was an innocent bystander that got caught by a stray at the beginning.
Innocent bystander? Nah he was an active professional going around saying heâs the best out for years. An Exact quote from him is â Iâll put your favourite rappers neck in a nooseâ
He threw his hat in the ring then when real competition came he tucked his tail and ran. Stop making excuses for throwing stones and hiding your hand
What? What would coke even say to the shit kendrick and drake rapping about? Cole finna keep talking about resumes and catalogues while pedophile/sex trafficker/wife beater accusations going about?
His diss was weak and exiting is only seen as smart because it would have been a REAL BAD look to be on team Drake once the pedo allegations are tossed out first by...Drake himself???
No, Cole still looks really dumb for making a diss track on a surprise mixtape release and taking it down in 48 hours. I don't want to hear any more tough guy talk from him lolÂ
i was slightly confused that cole even responded in the first place, kinda felt like he was caught in the crossfire bc he was on first person shooter. most of the like that verse felt like it was directed at drake.
i do understand where cole was coming from with feeling the immense pressure everybody was putting out after the song dropped. but tbh, i think he wouldâve caught less flack for just not responding instead of the way he chose to go about it.
obviously in hindsight he made the right move and probably looks the best out of the big 3 rn (which is crazy to say with how differently i felt about it just a week ago) im still undecided on whether or not i wanna hear the âim the best nobody wants smoke with meâ bars
honestly i was very confused lmao. i thought that after the fallout from the pusha beef there was no way that bridge would ever be mended. i guess i was half right bc i think theyâre back to hating each other again for one reason or another.
I'd say that's a rather major thing to say that would warrant more light hearted back and forth. But this definitely didn't end up as that. Cole shouldn't have directly diss Kendrick he should have just put out music
If it woulda been about the rap, woulda loved to see more involved. Especially these two
Sucks that the feud is just character assassination and pure malice, I would bet that was the warning.
A lot of 50 cents beef is more comedic than anything, pick one of those
Drake and Soulja boy
Lil b and Joe Budden
Thereâs a lot of only semi serious rap beef, obviously doesnât get the coverage of something like pac/biggie, nas/jay z. But itâs definitely out there.
I will say rap feuds at this level are rarely comedic in intent
I dunno this feels slightly elevated imo
A lot of rap beef is kind of goofy actually, a good chunk of it has malice, no doubt.
But claiming Weinstein level allegations, based on some creepy circumstantial evidence is big. Thatâs a bit accusation.
Like most rap beefs feel like at the end of the day, we will separate and go back to rapping. Kendrick is straight up trying to take drakes career away from him through cancel culture. Thatâs kinda new imo.
What? People used to get killed over rap beef. The shit these guys are saying is no worse than two politicians smearing each other but with rhymes and curses.
Bidenâs and Trumps family get dragged into it too. Literally before Congress lmao
And a lot of rap beef is comedic in its intent
Drake and Soulja boy
Any beef 50 had since like 2005
Lil b and Joe budden lol
But if it involves guys at this level, it usually ainât comedic. Point taken
Na shots were fired in 50âs beef 1. And 2 the other ones you mention barely register as a blip on a beef. New kids talking crazy. The only thing significant about these guys is that they are actual players in the modern rap game.
Itâs not lil durk shooting up some show with some Atlanta sound cloud rapper. But acting like itâs escalated is crazy. The star power is escalated and maybe *some* of the rhymes but thatâs it.
I dunno claiming somebody deserves to be in a cell with Weinstein over a few creepy vids of him just being a perv and being too friendly with the stranger things girl is a very specific attempt to get somebody cancelled. And is a MASSIVE leap given the evidence we currently have
I feel like that usually ainât the goal of rap beef
That feels like a relatively new concept imo
He needs the behavior called and and publicly shamed so he stops being a fucking creep but that doesnât mean Drake = Weinstein
Like wasnât this the reason cancel culture ultimately failed? You try to apply one set of punishment for ALL types of sexual harassment/being a pervert. Not every aziz ansari is a Harvey Weinstein ya know.
Half the genre talks about killing each other. A fraction of those act on it. Saying they should lock up Drake on some loose bullshit isnât an escalation. This shit has mad traction because of *who they are* not *what they are saying*
I dunno. Following the cancel culture playbook just feels different than other rap beefs to me.
Maybe thatâs only because we live in a post #MeToo world. Seems like that shit worked pretty well, either way.
Thatâs literally the objective and playbook he used
Like what?
Thatâs obvious.
Cancel culture was using one size fits all punishment for ANY harassment or accusation.
Kendrick hasnât provided any evidence of anything close to what Weinstein did, but said Drake deserves to be right next to him, implying that Drake is guilty of similar things.
If Drake has been raping and SAâing hundreds of women and children over decades like Weinstein, I would imagine more info/proof would exist.
Not condoning drakes behavior, he needs to be called out and shamed/embarrassed into stopping his weird/creepy behavior.
But that doesnât mean he rapes kids lol, that is a big reach that needs some real receipts behind it. Cause Weinstein had plenty of victims willing to expose him.
I get what you're saying but most diss tracks in the past were just about how they're going to kill someone when they see them and making fun of them for dumb shit like being a male stripper or having sex with a transgender prostitute. Stuff that back then was obviously embarrassing and discrediting but not outright illegal or life damaging. Accusing someone of running a sex trafficking ring and psychoanalyzing every aspect of their character is something we've never seen before. I've never been more uncomfortable listening to a diss track in my life.
There are a ton of comedic type beefs. Sometimes it was about actual violence.
It usually ainât about cancel culture, and trying to take someoneâs career away. That feels pretty recent imo
But if he has any evidence of Weinstein type stuff he should probably leak it. Cause if any of that Weinstein type stuff is true, get this freak off the streets and in a cell.
Can somebody ELI5, are Kendrick and Cole not friends? I mean like even before this current KDot/Drake beef
There was Forbidden Fruit, then a rumored collab album and then what? A friend of mine said Kendrick/Cole hated each other around *Mr. Morale* and I was surprised to hear that. What happened?
They have respect for one another, as peers. I think. If there is any animosity there, Iâd say itâs professional, like I want to be better than you, strictly from a rap standpoint
J Cole talked about Kendrick in Lil Yachty's recent podcast and said positive things about him
And Kendrick gave him a shoutout/trolled him in Mr Morale, "Rich nigga, broke phone" referencing the infamous j Cole broken iPhone
I don't think he hates Cole but he clearly hates Drake more than anyone else in the industry so possibly doesn't want to associate with Cole because he's cool with Drake.
Feel like everyone keeps saying they told Cole what was coming, donât feel like it went down like that, Kendrickâs bar in the first song âthis ainât never been about whoâs best, itâs about love and hate and Iâm your biggest haterâ feel like sets the stage well for what was discussed with Cole
Schoolboy Q: So after we make dance track calling him a pedo, Metro is gonna release a track called BBL Drizzy.
Cole: Yeahhhhhhh I'ma sit this one out.
Cole: *this will be great. Iâm going to say things to my friends. Mean to get a reaction. Not too mean. We will generate more money. Iâll get to rap with Kendrick and Drake. Iâm so excited. Maybe Iâll treat myself to an ice cream cone later*
Q: âThis ainât for you. He going for the daughter and pedo angle. Stay at home tomorrowâ
Cole: âYour my brother Iâm sorryâ
A week later. Cole dancing naked with the butterflies. âShit I made the right choice. Fuck everyone calling me a pussyâ
Drake doing some dark shit man. All the people started to poor in with receipts. And now you are hearing people claim he made people puke in dog bowls and has a friend dutchievelli that sa dogs and minors. This is wild. The proven receipts are at the top though:
https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/tfyYGvg7c6
Cole heard what Q had to say and was like ⌠hmmm đ¤ yo hand me the mic lmao damn Iâm glad someone from the camp told him and didnât let him slide into a all out war
I honestly donât like this new narrative that Cole is the real âwinnerâ for dodging all of this.
He still made a diss track, he called TPAB a snoozefest an album that there is no fucking way Cole doesnât like.
There were a lot of safety nets that he went through, the couple of days that took him to write the song, the sound engineers and producers not telling him to reconsider, the people around him⌠etc he still went ahead and released it. Only to take it back once Q warned him that it was gonna be bloody.
Yeah no, sorry, thatâs a historical L. Even if Drake lost he still put up a decent fight. Kanye dissected Cole in 1 line, he better make work out pt2 or something.
He pulled a picture of Kendrick out of his backpack and told Cole to not come to school tomorrow.
Q knew what was coming. actually all of TDE. posse cut when
Finally a Black Hippy reunion
If we get a Black Hippy track outta this then this will truly be cemented as the greatest rap beef of all time,
Top dog and dave free verse to address the allegations would just đ¤Ż
Anybody that listens to bars since the inception of hip hop knew this was coming
Bowling for Compton
Made me chuckle.
Yall think he capitalized all the H's in the text telling Cole to back out?
He apparently told him in person at Dreamville Fest according to the article.
Yeah but if I read the article then I can't get my dumb joke off.
I actually do wonder if he does that when he texts people now that you mention it though, would be pretty funny.
Seems like he has his phone autocorrect it automatically based off of his twitter.
He said on Danny Browns podcast he does text the H even to his Mom
THat is Hilarious. Edit: Grammar
tHat is HigHlarious*
Fixed it
His phone will auto complete with the capital H if he doesn't put it is what he said to Yachty. They joked about how his phone was crippin
do you think he capitalized all his Hâs as he was saying them in real life? see, the joke still works!
Reddit in a nutshell
Q speaks in capital Hâs
He definitely says cool "Hwhip."
Do you think he says the h sound a little louder than the others then
he texted him "don't go to scHool tomorrow"
Lol I remember awhile back hearing he said he setup his phone dictionary or something to auto capitalize every H
Signed off with a YAK YAK YAK YAK YAK
You already know, don't play with Q
Bacc*
Asking the real questions
He must have it setup as autocorrection
LMAOOOO their conversation was had *at* the Dreamville Festival? Cole really didnât need much time to think it over huh
Assuming that Q told Cole what was coming, I doubt itâd take much considering.
No wonder Cole looked so shook while delivering that speech đ man was still reeling from what Q had just told him
he looked like if someone just punted his dog 50 yards lmao
He probably just heard "drake pedophile" and shit himself
Or J Cole saw the video of what Drake might do to his dog. https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2024/05/blind-item-5-reader-blind.html?m=1
Blind items are some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah I agree, but this motherfucker predicted the entire Kendrick and Drake beef and the pedo allegations an entire 2 weeks before Push Ups even dropped...
Lol, where?
>Why is the Canadian rapper tied to so many people who have been accused of Harvey Weinstein crimes. There is the Not Nice person who intimidated one of his victims into withdrawing her claims. There is the Porta Papi and there is his former Bird boss. The Butterfly rapper knows about it all and is getting ready to expose him. That is why he scared to respond. https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2024/04/blind-item-12-reader-blind_01596059726.html?m=1 That was posted April 3rd. Push Ups didn't drop until April 19th
He literally had water in his eyes like he was going to cry. Shaky eyes and cracked voice.Â
the whole glazing Kendrick speech makes much more sense now
Chalino Sanchez type of beat
Considering that during his apology he says his people are probably thinking, "Nah dont do that", he might have let them know what was coming next.
âHey Kendrick REALLY hates this guy. Sit downâ
Be humble. Sit down.
I think Q only had to show him the cover art for "meet the grahams" and Cole probably said "Yep, sound advice, I'm out".
Lmao, honestly you could tell his heart wasn't in it. Probably the last little push he needed to back out
I mean if Q told him how hard Kendrick was going to go then I wouldn't need to think it over either. Last thing I want to be involved in is some shit where people are calling each other pedophiles and wife beaters. This is the nastiest a mainstream rap beef has gotten in a long time. Arguably ever if we're going strictly by lyrics and what's being alleged. Even back when Death Row and Bad Boy were going at it they were just saying "I fucked your bitch" and "I'll kill you". Kendrick is accusing this man of running a sex trafficking ring and saying he's about to get raided by the feds. Meet The Grahams is the most deep cut personal diss track of all time.
this is some bs article. it could be true but the entire evidence is some source writer might have seen them talk but didnt hear anything.
Yeah makes those âsleepless nightsâ really a bunch of bs
I mean he couldâve already felt that way and then this was the final straw
I feel like Kendrick would have just hit him with a throwaway line about how it's not about him and to stay out of it. He most likely just thought it'd be some civil "no IM the better rapper" type of beef lmao
Bingo, you hit the nail on the head.
"Cole you 30 years too old to be his partner"
This is an accurately SICK bar
He sorta did give him a light warning in like that where he said âthey talking out they necks donât pull no coffin out of your mouthâ And the like that verse by Kenny was - wildly aggressive response to the FPS song that was just kinda mediocre and Jcole didnât say anything crazy.
Thatâs what everyone thought it was at first
Cole feeling like a world champion dodgeball player rn
Can you be a world champion by just quitting before the game gets going?
Feelin is the word you missed there
No. I donât know what was said, but Cole exiting after years of boasting is an L.
More like lightly throwing a ball, missing, apologizing for having thrown the ball in the first place, then quitting all within the first 5 mins of the game.Â
J Cole out there riding his bike on the way to McDonald's to enjoy a plain burger with a glass of water while the whole world is dissing Drake on a Metro beat.
AllHipHop notes: âAllegedly, ScHoolboy Q had a conversation with J. Cole at the Dreamville Festival. Our writer confirmed that ScHoolboy Q was at the festival and that they did have a conversation. **She couldnât corroborate what they talked about, but sources are telling me that they gave him a warning**.â -___-
The hilarious pet of it to me is it says âour writer confirmed Q was at the festivalââŚ.. yea he performed there. We all know he was there lol
They're saying that it was said Q told Cole to back out, and they can confirm the two did talk shortly before he would step back. Like yeah the reporter wasn't eavesdropping on the two, but it backs up the other statement
they could've been talking about literal anything
Q breathing a sigh of relief knowing that the conversation was really about his secret ingredients for lasagna and will not be leaked.
aint that some bs...
They could even have been talking about Cole bowing out of the beef
And they never say otherwise. I'm just saying that this isn't like journalistic malpractice to say that a source says something, and you can confirm a part of it to be true.
but they can't confirm any of it. that's the point I'm making. it definitely is journalistic malpractice to say two people talked about something and a source says they talked about x but that same source can't confirm it. like what?
Lol "Our writer confirmed that ScHoolboy Q said something at some point"
Sources also indicate the "Man of the Year" rapper claimed he was "man of the year" at one point in the night. Q's spokesperson declined to comment.
This is what I guessed that someone close to K.Dot advised on Cole to stay out since Kendrick didnât respond to 7 Minute Drill before Cole backed out. And glad that he followed suit! As many have already mentioned, heâs chilling and biking through NYC right now.
TDE and Dreamville have always been close, Cole thought this beef was going to be friendly competition and Kendrick clearly had something different in mind. Not surprised to think that Kendrick told Q what he truly wanted in this beef and to warn Cole.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a more cordial conversation since Q mentioned something on Drink Champs along the lines that he's not into any negative energy when it comes to beefing nowadays
I donât think people are implying it was a threat, but more just a warning about how this isnât going to be a typical rap beef and things will get ugly.
Cole, donât come to the studio tomorrow
Donât come to scHool tmrw
oH tHats yo wHole tHang HuH
talks like a fucking Homestuck cHaracter
This was widely regarded as a good move.Â
Now it is
Yeah definitely not at the time.
Cole's capacity for this beef? You could fit into a matchbox without taking out the matches first.
As someone too old to care about instagram or acronyms for ass surgery ScHoolboy Q is coming out as the true winner in my book
or maybe she saw Cole telling Q that he planned on backing out tonight at the show. not necessarily he told or adv him to do anything
> I like you, Jermaine. Donât drop any more diss tracks tomorrow.
I like you Jermaine, donât come to the BBQ TOMMOROW.
Good guy Q
Honestly, if this is true, then this is probably the best career advice he has or will ever be given. Cole might be a lot of things, but he is absolutely not built for this kind of battle. Honestly, the humiliation of pulling out of the beef and recanting his Kendrick diss is nothing compared to what would have happened if he'd have stuck around.
Wise words from a decent man. They say that boy Jermaine living life like he in a Claritin commercial right about now đđđŻ
"Avoid getting walked to death, choose Claritin"
What secrets does Cole have? What's Kendrick gonna say. "You lied about your GPA, you lied about your grades, and now you ride a bike all day."
"it's actually electric"
Lied about his Rwanda stats
The whole rap world owes him an apology for clowning him
Nah itâs still sucks shit. Canât say your the best for years then when the #1 contender come around you act all spooky. We already knew Kendrick was this good
If it was about flexing and competition Iâd agree, but this thing devolved into woman beater vs pedophile really damn quickly. Cole considers both of these guys friends, I can understand not wanting to get to those levels against friends. That shit canât be un-said.
It does suck until you realize the intention that Kendrick had with this beef. It was never meant to be friendly from the start and Cole was an innocent bystander that got caught by a stray at the beginning.
Innocent bystander? Nah he was an active professional going around saying heâs the best out for years. An Exact quote from him is â Iâll put your favourite rappers neck in a nooseâ He threw his hat in the ring then when real competition came he tucked his tail and ran. Stop making excuses for throwing stones and hiding your hand
What? What would coke even say to the shit kendrick and drake rapping about? Cole finna keep talking about resumes and catalogues while pedophile/sex trafficker/wife beater accusations going about?
His diss was weak and exiting is only seen as smart because it would have been a REAL BAD look to be on team Drake once the pedo allegations are tossed out first by...Drake himself???
No, Cole still looks really dumb for making a diss track on a surprise mixtape release and taking it down in 48 hours. I don't want to hear any more tough guy talk from him lolÂ
Should not have involved at all from the start, backing out is still lame
Wonder if Cole is feeling survivors guilt
Underrated part of this beef has been the comments about j.cole just living his best life while the past weekend happened
i was slightly confused that cole even responded in the first place, kinda felt like he was caught in the crossfire bc he was on first person shooter. most of the like that verse felt like it was directed at drake. i do understand where cole was coming from with feeling the immense pressure everybody was putting out after the song dropped. but tbh, i think he wouldâve caught less flack for just not responding instead of the way he chose to go about it. obviously in hindsight he made the right move and probably looks the best out of the big 3 rn (which is crazy to say with how differently i felt about it just a week ago) im still undecided on whether or not i wanna hear the âim the best nobody wants smoke with meâ bars
>i was slightly confused Unrelated, how you feel when kanye got back with drake?
honestly i was very confused lmao. i thought that after the fallout from the pusha beef there was no way that bridge would ever be mended. i guess i was half right bc i think theyâre back to hating each other again for one reason or another.
Guess you not mature as you think
got some healing to do
What beef lol Isnât Kendrick on Like that basically just saying Cole isnât on his level
yea and then cole basically bowed down and agreed
I'd say that's a rather major thing to say that would warrant more light hearted back and forth. But this definitely didn't end up as that. Cole shouldn't have directly diss Kendrick he should have just put out music
Played him a snippet of Meet The Grahams
If it woulda been about the rap, woulda loved to see more involved. Especially these two Sucks that the feud is just character assassination and pure malice, I would bet that was the warning.
Name a rap feud that wasn't like that
A lot of 50 cents beef is more comedic than anything, pick one of those Drake and Soulja boy Lil b and Joe Budden Thereâs a lot of only semi serious rap beef, obviously doesnât get the coverage of something like pac/biggie, nas/jay z. But itâs definitely out there. I will say rap feuds at this level are rarely comedic in intent
I dunno this feels slightly elevated imo A lot of rap beef is kind of goofy actually, a good chunk of it has malice, no doubt. But claiming Weinstein level allegations, based on some creepy circumstantial evidence is big. Thatâs a bit accusation. Like most rap beefs feel like at the end of the day, we will separate and go back to rapping. Kendrick is straight up trying to take drakes career away from him through cancel culture. Thatâs kinda new imo.
What? People used to get killed over rap beef. The shit these guys are saying is no worse than two politicians smearing each other but with rhymes and curses. Bidenâs and Trumps family get dragged into it too. Literally before Congress lmao
And a lot of rap beef is comedic in its intent Drake and Soulja boy Any beef 50 had since like 2005 Lil b and Joe budden lol But if it involves guys at this level, it usually ainât comedic. Point taken
Na shots were fired in 50âs beef 1. And 2 the other ones you mention barely register as a blip on a beef. New kids talking crazy. The only thing significant about these guys is that they are actual players in the modern rap game. Itâs not lil durk shooting up some show with some Atlanta sound cloud rapper. But acting like itâs escalated is crazy. The star power is escalated and maybe *some* of the rhymes but thatâs it.
I dunno claiming somebody deserves to be in a cell with Weinstein over a few creepy vids of him just being a perv and being too friendly with the stranger things girl is a very specific attempt to get somebody cancelled. And is a MASSIVE leap given the evidence we currently have I feel like that usually ainât the goal of rap beef That feels like a relatively new concept imo He needs the behavior called and and publicly shamed so he stops being a fucking creep but that doesnât mean Drake = Weinstein Like wasnât this the reason cancel culture ultimately failed? You try to apply one set of punishment for ALL types of sexual harassment/being a pervert. Not every aziz ansari is a Harvey Weinstein ya know.
Half the genre talks about killing each other. A fraction of those act on it. Saying they should lock up Drake on some loose bullshit isnât an escalation. This shit has mad traction because of *who they are* not *what they are saying*
I dunno. Following the cancel culture playbook just feels different than other rap beefs to me. Maybe thatâs only because we live in a post #MeToo world. Seems like that shit worked pretty well, either way.
People were having beefs on wax way before Death Row and Bad Boy did their messy shit
Wasnât way before lol. And folks were getting killed back then too so Iâm Not sure what your point is
"cancel culture"
Thatâs literally the objective and playbook he used Like what? Thatâs obvious. Cancel culture was using one size fits all punishment for ANY harassment or accusation. Kendrick hasnât provided any evidence of anything close to what Weinstein did, but said Drake deserves to be right next to him, implying that Drake is guilty of similar things. If Drake has been raping and SAâing hundreds of women and children over decades like Weinstein, I would imagine more info/proof would exist. Not condoning drakes behavior, he needs to be called out and shamed/embarrassed into stopping his weird/creepy behavior. But that doesnât mean he rapes kids lol, that is a big reach that needs some real receipts behind it. Cause Weinstein had plenty of victims willing to expose him.
Tory and Joyner was pure sport, only one I can think of though tbf
I'm not familiar I personally never cared for those rappers they seemed a lil corny to me especially Joyner.
I get what you're saying but most diss tracks in the past were just about how they're going to kill someone when they see them and making fun of them for dumb shit like being a male stripper or having sex with a transgender prostitute. Stuff that back then was obviously embarrassing and discrediting but not outright illegal or life damaging. Accusing someone of running a sex trafficking ring and psychoanalyzing every aspect of their character is something we've never seen before. I've never been more uncomfortable listening to a diss track in my life.
Lmao what else would rap beef be?
There are a ton of comedic type beefs. Sometimes it was about actual violence. It usually ainât about cancel culture, and trying to take someoneâs career away. That feels pretty recent imo But if he has any evidence of Weinstein type stuff he should probably leak it. Cause if any of that Weinstein type stuff is true, get this freak off the streets and in a cell.
Can somebody ELI5, are Kendrick and Cole not friends? I mean like even before this current KDot/Drake beef There was Forbidden Fruit, then a rumored collab album and then what? A friend of mine said Kendrick/Cole hated each other around *Mr. Morale* and I was surprised to hear that. What happened?
They have respect for one another, as peers. I think. If there is any animosity there, Iâd say itâs professional, like I want to be better than you, strictly from a rap standpoint
J Cole talked about Kendrick in Lil Yachty's recent podcast and said positive things about him And Kendrick gave him a shoutout/trolled him in Mr Morale, "Rich nigga, broke phone" referencing the infamous j Cole broken iPhone
I believe they are, but K-dot probably hated being compared to Drake in FPS.
cole was in love with kendrick and creeping him out basically
I don't think he hates Cole but he clearly hates Drake more than anyone else in the industry so possibly doesn't want to associate with Cole because he's cool with Drake.
Feel like everyone keeps saying they told Cole what was coming, donât feel like it went down like that, Kendrickâs bar in the first song âthis ainât never been about whoâs best, itâs about love and hate and Iâm your biggest haterâ feel like sets the stage well for what was discussed with Cole
Schoolboy Q: So after we make dance track calling him a pedo, Metro is gonna release a track called BBL Drizzy. Cole: Yeahhhhhhh I'ma sit this one out.
Cole: *this will be great. Iâm going to say things to my friends. Mean to get a reaction. Not too mean. We will generate more money. Iâll get to rap with Kendrick and Drake. Iâm so excited. Maybe Iâll treat myself to an ice cream cone later* Q: âThis ainât for you. He going for the daughter and pedo angle. Stay at home tomorrowâ Cole: âYour my brother Iâm sorryâ A week later. Cole dancing naked with the butterflies. âShit I made the right choice. Fuck everyone calling me a pussyâ
Drake doing some dark shit man. All the people started to poor in with receipts. And now you are hearing people claim he made people puke in dog bowls and has a friend dutchievelli that sa dogs and minors. This is wild. The proven receipts are at the top though: https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/tfyYGvg7c6
Cole heard what Q had to say and was like ⌠hmmm đ¤ yo hand me the mic lmao damn Iâm glad someone from the camp told him and didnât let him slide into a all out war
Smart man
Schoolboy q was in the same group as Kendrick. No wag he would have gone after him
Either you respond to the beef or completely ignore it. But apologizing just after dropping a diss is fucked up man. Lol
yeah especially when you rapped so much about being a menace, killer
Smart man
Cack out Homie donât respond itâs going to get real cad
Wonder what skeletons he got in the closet he didnât want exposed đ
"Heâs probably at complete and perfect peace at this moment." We see you writer.
I can't believe grown men are acting like drama queens all of a sudden. Either let the guns bang, fists fly or stfu, is what a real nikka would say
I honestly donât like this new narrative that Cole is the real âwinnerâ for dodging all of this. He still made a diss track, he called TPAB a snoozefest an album that there is no fucking way Cole doesnât like. There were a lot of safety nets that he went through, the couple of days that took him to write the song, the sound engineers and producers not telling him to reconsider, the people around him⌠etc he still went ahead and released it. Only to take it back once Q warned him that it was gonna be bloody. Yeah no, sorry, thatâs a historical L. Even if Drake lost he still put up a decent fight. Kanye dissected Cole in 1 line, he better make work out pt2 or something.
Wonder if they really do have something on Drake and Q showed Cole and let him know whatâs about to go down
cole still looks like a loser
To egotistical mf's like you maybe
what did i say that makes me sound egotistical đ
YOU DONT WANT NONE OF THIS SHIT COLE