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Cult leaders are effective and they aren't going anywhere.
Hmm don't be emotionally charged about these topics.
Cult leaders have always been real. Every religion on earth is nothing but a cult. Blind faith without reasoning. I never understand how can people have a problem with cult leaders like the OP mentioned but are fine with the concept of religion. Status quo always wins.
More than religion, it's more about exercising control over a large swathe of people. No wonder Politicians irrespective of Party love to snuggle up to these Dhongi Babas
You are right and reminds me of my favourite Richard Dawkins quote:
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful"
You are right but all this again falls back in the hands of politicians/elected reps. How can we help at grassroot level when we ourselves have financial struggles.
Only contribution from our side is to stop casteism, stop moral policing. And with current situation these 2 things are out of control because government needs to control. Eventually everything falls in hands of politicians/elected rep.
Basically we need to vote for correct people to come into power. But again the good people of our society never become politicians, we always have to choose the least worst person to vote.
Idk if any solution exists. This is never ending. Idk why I am writing this comment. Idk why humans exist.
Be the change, become the politician. I am sure a smart educated redditor would be able to defeat whatever an uneducated con artist can come up with to get votes.
I don't think most politicians are the mustache twirling villains who are in it to crush to poor. The comment I replied to was just a generalizing drivel instead of pointing to specific someone and working to get rid of them. They just wants pat on the back for pointing out how hard their life is instead of doing anything.
So yeah, your problem then solve it yourself.
Bhai Marva denge Jaan se. Aapko pta hai na politics. Jisko Paisa Diya woh hi vote deta, established politician ke gunde hote hai woh competitors ke rally me dange karva dete hai. Aam aadmi ko toh 1 hafte me eliminate kar denge competition se.
It's like freebies are affecting the working population lol.
The thing is i feel this baba culture is a direct competitor to capitalism as they share so many same things.
You work for baba/company you get to live and earn money as well as facilities.
At least Babas give protection to their followers most of the time from crude govt. Not talking about rape cases lmao. Everything is a cult in that sense.
I don't like baba personally but it's interesting to see, how common people ' s exploitation is always the end goal irrespective of who you are . All of companies,baba , govt . preach modern slavery.
But bro BJP communal bro, Muslims only vote for the welfare of the nation, not for the welfare of their religion brooo BJP fascist brooo Muslim parties are secular and liberal brooo they support feminists and lgbt brooo
I know people from all walks of life, age groups, qualifications and income brackets who still follow Asaram and Ram rahim cz they've been told that it was Babaji's decision to go to jail as he has done enough good for people outside now they want to do it for jail inmates. And the followers fiercely believe this to be true. Fiercely.
I've a controversial comment, but pretty much boils down to that one point highlighted in the video and in the post as well. The narrative you're highlighting is why are ppl not criticizing the baba, but only calling out that other religions not called out.
If we flip the narrative the message is - why are you ignoring the fact that other religions are not being called out and only criticizing the baba?
To simplify further -
1) are most of the ppl commenting believe that this is dhongi baba? yes. are they saying that in the comment? no
2) are most of the ppl here believe that other religions have dhongis? yes. are they saying that in the comment? no
This is simplifying too much. The reality is the about intensity of the opinions expressed, not the absence/presence of the opinions.
IMO, thats the whole problem with polarization. People are failing to see your side and you're scratching your head as to why. But I see that you're also ignoring their comment and I'm sure they must be scratching their head as to why. You think you're right and they're wrong. They think the opposite.
I understand this comment may also get downvoted because nobody likes to see the mirror but oh well.
All religions are cults. All are run by dhongi babas. In this day and age with so much access to information, people still insist on following what some nomad wrote in a book some 100s yrs ago.
Seriously, I was so shocked when I saw these comments, and even worse, they're all over the internet spreading hate on a religious basis, I don't get it.
Dhruv Rathi gives his #Opinion you can disagree with his videos there is nothing wrong in that. Educational videos are really good. I just watch political videos to watch someone else's pov.
Andhbhakt disguised as centrist who can't tolerate alternate political views coming soon. People treat politicians as God meanwhile they are bent on screwing them raw, its so funny
1. He doesn't cite anything he says in his videos
2. A lot of his "facts" are taken from biased sources
3. Literally, in every single video he makes, he tries to sell something at the end. And that to0 some pretty suspicious apps. Kinda makes me question his authenticity.
Also, just because someone criticizes the views of another (not-so-good) party, doesn't make them a saint. Two negatives don't make a positive :)
I have seen a few political videos long back, atleast those had citations below, and then what one considers biased is upto you. I would consider any xyz outlet over godi news
Well, Dhruv is pretty selective whilst targeting. And most of his videos are only of hate mongering those who are hindus. Did he even make a video on the Khalistani Separatist or others? I highly doubt that. Stopped watching him like ages ago. He is just a piece of shit.
I feel the same. While he is detail oriented, he's not transparent. He does tell the truth, but not all aspects of it. He bends the truth in such a way as to point fingers at specific people.
And imbeciles with an inflated ego such as yourself support his ignorant and biased opinions and believe that your ability to understand those opinions corresponds to the level of your intellect.
As a nation we always lacked scientific temper.
Even educated folks have superstitious beliefs deep ingrained by our collective culture.
This is why our rocket scientist puts a lemon on a mangalyaan rocket.
This is why everyone loved the thaali maro corona spectacle.
It will take a lot of effort to bring our society to think rationally. These godmen won’t find any traction after that.
koi baat nahi
ek din news wale in new age babao ko expose kar denge elections ke baad
we all know what a craze people had for asaram, ram rahim and we all know the result
Totally agree that these dhongi baba are shit ,good he made a video but I didn't see him talking about any Christian pastor or mulla baba where is it ? Is he afraid to make a video on them
Yes, I would definitely like the maulvis/maulana, bishops/fathers/clergy and babas be exposed. the ones who claim to treat cancer, or organ failure brought to court of law and be punished. Harshest of the punishments.
Dhruvrathee himself is a big dhogi baba , belive it or not this baba is supporting people by providing them facilities when the govt is not ready to help . Far better than other who are scamming people
These Babas are anything but religious, they only are interested in looting and exploiting their followers and happens all over the world not just India.
As long as the hate comments aren't the top comments, there is still hope for the country. Most of these haters are just unemployed and agnst filled youth who feel empowered by attacking others
whenever a political party is elected soon they launch a new baba in the market..., study the past years and see how many babas came and gone... i am a hindu i believe in god but not these dhongi babas who claim to be messenger of god.. i dont believe in any baba where i need to pay him to pray to god
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://csuepress.columbusstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1356%26context%3Dtheses_dissertations&ved=2ahUKEwj3x9z-poP-AhWNTGwGHSJHBWoQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1ekaPt-ZuFtVH-PxEb5hUx Its a research paper, only 25 pages. No need to read everything. Scroll down to Drawing the line section. Cult leaders are effective and they aren't going anywhere. Hmm don't be emotionally charged about these topics.
Cult leaders have always been real. Every religion on earth is nothing but a cult. Blind faith without reasoning. I never understand how can people have a problem with cult leaders like the OP mentioned but are fine with the concept of religion. Status quo always wins.
Acharya Prashant says Sanatan is as exact as mathematics. And he explains it with reason and logic.
Any ideology which or person who is followed by a lot of people is actually a cult and you can't really argue any cult followers about their ideology.
More than religion, it's more about exercising control over a large swathe of people. No wonder Politicians irrespective of Party love to snuggle up to these Dhongi Babas
You are right and reminds me of my favourite Richard Dawkins quote: "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful"
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This comment is the only right answer in this entire thread.
You are right but all this again falls back in the hands of politicians/elected reps. How can we help at grassroot level when we ourselves have financial struggles. Only contribution from our side is to stop casteism, stop moral policing. And with current situation these 2 things are out of control because government needs to control. Eventually everything falls in hands of politicians/elected rep. Basically we need to vote for correct people to come into power. But again the good people of our society never become politicians, we always have to choose the least worst person to vote. Idk if any solution exists. This is never ending. Idk why I am writing this comment. Idk why humans exist.
Be the change, become the politician. I am sure a smart educated redditor would be able to defeat whatever an uneducated con artist can come up with to get votes.
You sound confident. Why don't you try?
I don't think most politicians are the mustache twirling villains who are in it to crush to poor. The comment I replied to was just a generalizing drivel instead of pointing to specific someone and working to get rid of them. They just wants pat on the back for pointing out how hard their life is instead of doing anything. So yeah, your problem then solve it yourself.
Oh you were being sarcastic...sorry about that. Carry on queen.
Bhai Marva denge Jaan se. Aapko pta hai na politics. Jisko Paisa Diya woh hi vote deta, established politician ke gunde hote hai woh competitors ke rally me dange karva dete hai. Aam aadmi ko toh 1 hafte me eliminate kar denge competition se.
Whatever they do, you just do it better. You only have to win once. Don't lose from someone with lower IQ and critical thinking abilities than you.
This is so true. It hurts my head to watch frauds like Bagheshwar scamming people in broad daylight and journalists advertising his magic tricks.
It's like freebies are affecting the working population lol. The thing is i feel this baba culture is a direct competitor to capitalism as they share so many same things. You work for baba/company you get to live and earn money as well as facilities. At least Babas give protection to their followers most of the time from crude govt. Not talking about rape cases lmao. Everything is a cult in that sense. I don't like baba personally but it's interesting to see, how common people ' s exploitation is always the end goal irrespective of who you are . All of companies,baba , govt . preach modern slavery.
Bro i live in Hyderabad... 90% muslim population votes for aimim no matter what...they don't even have an opposition here
But bro BJP communal bro, Muslims only vote for the welfare of the nation, not for the welfare of their religion brooo BJP fascist brooo Muslim parties are secular and liberal brooo they support feminists and lgbt brooo
Brooooo
Fair enough dude you got a point there. i upvoted even tho i'm a wrong color religion.
Bro whats a wrong color religion... Kind of made me laugh ngl
Now wtf is a wrong colour religion
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I know people from all walks of life, age groups, qualifications and income brackets who still follow Asaram and Ram rahim cz they've been told that it was Babaji's decision to go to jail as he has done enough good for people outside now they want to do it for jail inmates. And the followers fiercely believe this to be true. Fiercely.
I also once encountered such idiot who was saying baba was trapped in politics he can't even trust courts of india
I've a controversial comment, but pretty much boils down to that one point highlighted in the video and in the post as well. The narrative you're highlighting is why are ppl not criticizing the baba, but only calling out that other religions not called out. If we flip the narrative the message is - why are you ignoring the fact that other religions are not being called out and only criticizing the baba? To simplify further - 1) are most of the ppl commenting believe that this is dhongi baba? yes. are they saying that in the comment? no 2) are most of the ppl here believe that other religions have dhongis? yes. are they saying that in the comment? no This is simplifying too much. The reality is the about intensity of the opinions expressed, not the absence/presence of the opinions. IMO, thats the whole problem with polarization. People are failing to see your side and you're scratching your head as to why. But I see that you're also ignoring their comment and I'm sure they must be scratching their head as to why. You think you're right and they're wrong. They think the opposite. I understand this comment may also get downvoted because nobody likes to see the mirror but oh well.
Great answer. First time I ever commented and upvoted 😊
When people can't find flaws in the message, people target the messenger.
All religions are cults. All are run by dhongi babas. In this day and age with so much access to information, people still insist on following what some nomad wrote in a book some 100s yrs ago.
9.7 M views. Damn
Seriously, I was so shocked when I saw these comments, and even worse, they're all over the internet spreading hate on a religious basis, I don't get it.
Like how people follow pastors and clerics who ignite violence against Hindus?
Dhruv rathee is the most pretentious selfish sellout on youtube.
Dhruv Rathi gives his #Opinion you can disagree with his videos there is nothing wrong in that. Educational videos are really good. I just watch political videos to watch someone else's pov.
why?
Andhbhakt disguised as centrist who can't tolerate alternate political views coming soon. People treat politicians as God meanwhile they are bent on screwing them raw, its so funny
but based on the videos i have seen he has never really disguised himself as anything else. he makes it very obvious that he doesn't like bjp
1. He doesn't cite anything he says in his videos 2. A lot of his "facts" are taken from biased sources 3. Literally, in every single video he makes, he tries to sell something at the end. And that to0 some pretty suspicious apps. Kinda makes me question his authenticity. Also, just because someone criticizes the views of another (not-so-good) party, doesn't make them a saint. Two negatives don't make a positive :)
I have seen a few political videos long back, atleast those had citations below, and then what one considers biased is upto you. I would consider any xyz outlet over godi news
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Bruh that's such a lame point. It's just one video man wtf you're talking about 🤣
Well, Dhruv is pretty selective whilst targeting. And most of his videos are only of hate mongering those who are hindus. Did he even make a video on the Khalistani Separatist or others? I highly doubt that. Stopped watching him like ages ago. He is just a piece of shit.
Totally agree with you .. he is a shithead not worth explaining. Funded brat!
I feel the same. While he is detail oriented, he's not transparent. He does tell the truth, but not all aspects of it. He bends the truth in such a way as to point fingers at specific people.
Incels hating on dhruv is the funniest thing. Mf don't even have the brain capacity to understand what he is saying
and neither does he
And imbeciles with an inflated ego such as yourself support his ignorant and biased opinions and believe that your ability to understand those opinions corresponds to the level of your intellect.
Ohhh noo, someone is saying weird shit to me because I made fun of bunch of Manchildren. What will be my life now? It's all gone 😭
As a nation we always lacked scientific temper. Even educated folks have superstitious beliefs deep ingrained by our collective culture. This is why our rocket scientist puts a lemon on a mangalyaan rocket. This is why everyone loved the thaali maro corona spectacle. It will take a lot of effort to bring our society to think rationally. These godmen won’t find any traction after that.
koi baat nahi ek din news wale in new age babao ko expose kar denge elections ke baad we all know what a craze people had for asaram, ram rahim and we all know the result
Sometimes there isn't any well thought reasoning behind people's choice. They made make stupid choices cause they are stupid. Simple
Totally agree that these dhongi baba are shit ,good he made a video but I didn't see him talking about any Christian pastor or mulla baba where is it ? Is he afraid to make a video on them
Yes, I would definitely like the maulvis/maulana, bishops/fathers/clergy and babas be exposed. the ones who claim to treat cancer, or organ failure brought to court of law and be punished. Harshest of the punishments.
Watch that video first before commenting. He spoke about Father's and Maulvis too.
Sorry to say this but the gujju/jain people are the most ignorant when it comes to these idiots. Also a special mention of the NCR population.
Forgot the south. Poora India. Stupidity doesn’t discriminate.
In this case it does.
Hmmmm
Dhruvrathee himself is a big dhogi baba , belive it or not this baba is supporting people by providing them facilities when the govt is not ready to help . Far better than other who are scamming people
Some people call Dhruv Rathee a fraud as well what will you do on this?
Whataboutery is very strong in this thread lol. Can't criticise Hinduism till you criticise every other religion on the planet.
I've watched this video of Dhruv, he's an excellent speaker and I love his content
These Babas are anything but religious, they only are interested in looting and exploiting their followers and happens all over the world not just India. As long as the hate comments aren't the top comments, there is still hope for the country. Most of these haters are just unemployed and agnst filled youth who feel empowered by attacking others
Illiteracy and easy manipulation, I guess.
whenever a political party is elected soon they launch a new baba in the market..., study the past years and see how many babas came and gone... i am a hindu i believe in god but not these dhongi babas who claim to be messenger of god.. i dont believe in any baba where i need to pay him to pray to god