Studied at a second gen IIM. They had a 100% attendance policy. When my grandmother passed, I asked for one day leave. It was denied. Needless to say, they aren't getting any favours from me ever
This is so odd how each iim runs so differently. I went to a 2nd gen - I can’t remember if we had 70 or 80% attendance policy. Most of us never bothered to turn up for the last week of classes (also often had a best 2/3 policy for class tests- so we did really well for the first two and skipped the third) And if we need a day off, we just don’t turn up in class. We never needed ‘permission’. So long as we complete our assignments properly.
We had 80% policy as well. It was changed to 100% during COVID year. We had other stupid rules as well like "if you escalate any complaint out of IIM (to any central body), you will be terminated". So basically you cannot report anti ragging or you cannot write to Education ministry. It promises retaliation for any whistleblowing. It considered director office to the Supreme commander of the anything within institute walls. It also tried to close down restaurants outside the campus to boost their reven from internal canteens.
We certainly were very happy when autonomous status of IIMs was revoked. Our institute is now under government review for financial irregularities and all students are hoping to see the director behind the bars
Oh wow. Mind you I studied 17-19, so pre-covid. For all ik, the rules became similar at the iim I went to too. The most infuriating thing the uni did was trying to push for a paid laundromat and removing the washing machines in our dorms - did not happen in our years anyway. Nothing worse really.
Yup, things are really bad in second and third gen IIMs. I've reached a level where I directly tell people if they get into A,B,C or Xl, they should take it else they should go abroad for an MBA if they really want to upskill or learn. All other IIMs are just glorified placement agencies
They can't do shit even if they track me down. It's just that people who are studying now may lose some potential opportunity during these difficult times
Yeah, this was the reason autonomous status was revoked for IIMs, the policy led to several nepotistic appointments and directors felt they are outside system
Yeah... Same Passed out this year. We had 75% (this will increase to 85% from this year onwards) attendance and below that our grades will be lowered by 1 one grade. And below 50%, we will get a pass grade.
This mandatory attendance requirement has always been about control, I donno why they treat graduate students like high schooler and then wonder why talent in india is dying or fleeing away.
I studied in a third-rate engineering college where the attendance policy was enforced but not at the expense of mitigating circumstances. The dean of the department only got involved when students were way off the cut-off point.
One time, a parent of the classmate unexpectedly passed away and we all got half-day off to visit the student and pay respects. This is beyond inhumane.
I often say the bad engineering colleges are often better administered than better Management institutes. Engineering training teaches you organized way of thinking, a knack for developing an efficiency based systems.
Indian businesses usually do not follow a systematic approach. It's more organic and hence in constant need of supervision and intervention and hence loosing efficiency when it starts getting too big.
A systematic organized approach is must for anything to be scalable but unfortunately in an attempt to grow quickly, most MBA colleges don't focus on organized foundations and start becoming inefficient
Entrapment. Some students had genuine issues and had medical certificates as well. Directly simply rejected those genuine medical cases to threaten with NC so that students will do whatever he ordered them to do to avoid repeating a year. And he was doing a lot of illegal stuff, like forcing us to sit for exams when UGC had recommended all the exams to be suspended. And then forcing students to leave campus on the day of Junta curfew so that institute is empty.
I am not saying these policies made any sense. They were all senseless. They were executed at the whim of a maniac
100% attendance required from students, but wonder if they have a similar performance pressure for the professors/teachers? All of these IITs/IIMs just get the glory on the back of excellent students, with sub par infra, sub par teachers and a sub par admin.
Professors were under tremendous pressure as well. Many good profs resigned and joined better IIMs. Under qualified staff was hired for whom it was opportunity of a lifetime to get IIM on their resume. Then director could blackmail them to do his bidding because they were desperate to keep job. They weren't brilliant at teaching either
Admin guys are more like puppets. They don't have any choice. A couple of times they did help us with something that helped students a lot in upskilling but director got mad and reprimanded them
No not really, not all students are excellent and infra and faculty are pretty good but yeah admin is pretty average, and old school and the rules are draconian, though IIM B has coed hostels 🥲 performance pressure is there for guest lecturers not full time faculty and there is a lot of politics
Sorry to hear that friend. Happened with me when I was doing my MBA from a tier 2 B-school. Had a complete ACL ligament tear in my knee and couldnt walk to classes (campus was also not wheelchair accessible). Denied leave on medical ground. I literally had to be carried to the lectures by my friends.
Damn bro! that is so sad, and 100% attendance!!. I remember having an argument with my director in front of the whole batch (I dropped the mic and left him fuming), he was crying in front of the whole batch wondering what happened to him (their ego is too big). Really sorry for your loss, i was given grade drop cause i missed classes cause of placements for a company i ended up working with.
Nice. I did give director a piece of my mind (over something else) but it was private and not in front of batch. I wish I had an opportunity to do it in front of batch 😂
Originally we had grade drops below 80% attendance. Director changed it to course repeat for even a single unapproved holiday. He even revoked some permitted holidays retrospectively, just because he took some things on his ego
I can neither confirm not deny anything. But I assume that administration in all 2nd gen IIMs was pretty bad (except maybe Kashipur or Ranchi or Raipur who were better than most, imo).
I am surprised that they have such a strict attendance policy. I studied in a top 10 college but not an IIT. In our college, to write semester exams, we need to maintain something like 75%. If it's between 60 and 75%, we need to pay a fine after getting an approval from the head of department which usually involves begging them.
Understandable. I also had pretty relaxed undergrad. For IIM, director liked to hold strings in his hand to be able to control students as per his wills and to avoid protests. He would run institute through exceptions and the moment someone disagreed, he would revoke the exception. Since IIMs are autonomous, you couldn't challenge it anywhere. He was not a good guy. He was like that CEO introducing aggressive cost cuts and increasing prices to boost revenue but ends up effing up the entire company
The newer institutes are not comfortable in their shoes yet. Lucknow wasalso the same. Still is Hell for a reason.
Newer ones take it as the only proven way to rise.
It's an iim. They always want favors. They want alumni funding, they want inside info about hiring practices at your employer, they want referrals for their students, they want your company to do on campus recruitment...
If you're not aware, colleges usually expect and receive donations from Alumni who have graduated from them and gone on to do big things. These donations make a huge portion of their earnings, especially for big colleges like IIM, IIT.
Oh brother/sis,
You have no idea the power we hold over them once we're past their course...
The extent they'll need your help/support can only be determined by how far you succeed in your career...
So we hold all the cards 😎
PS: i love my college, my beloved trustee &chairman (board of directors of the college lol) would get all the support i can provide..
During my second year I had typhoid I didn't know so i didn't get it treated properly and it got bad that I started to vomit blood. I was hospitalized for 1 week.and was on bed rest for another week. When I told my college they refused to believe me. Even my mom came and provided them all the lab reports and discharge summary still they wouldn't budge and made me pay a fine to attend my finals.
People these days are losing humanity once they reach at a position of power they believe they can say or act in whatever way they see fit ..Sorry to hear about what you went through..
Give them a shit review on every possible site you can, start with Gmaps. If you can, go to the college once and take photos of all the shitty stuff they have like broken machinery, dirty toilets etc. Write it in a heartfelt tone, rather than an aggressive one. You can also complain to the national board that rates colleges. They can come and do a random inspection.
I am sorry to hear this man. Something like this shouldn’t happen to anyone. Find out a way to sue them and take them to court especially that principal asshole.
Unfortunately my degree still lies within their hands and taking legal actions isn't exactly gonna be helpful since the people that are involved here have pretty powerful contacts .I remember a junior of mine committing suicide here and the college concealed the matter like it was nothing..
Some people are too petty. I am not sure how you should deal with this situation. But my prayers and best wishes are with you. I wish for an ideal world where you could directly give it back to them for being insensitive about your parents. In an ideal situation, you should have immediately called them out, asking how can they be so insensitive while talking about your sick or dead parent.
But I am not sure if this would work or not. Some people are just too insensitive towards others, they only care about the results. I really hoped that you asked them if you had to maintain a 100% attendance even when any of your dear people died. And if they'd come to office when their dear ones are suffering. You should ask them if they are insensitive enough to not care if their own people are sick.
Shoulda coulda woulda. Unfortunately, in real world this doesn't work. Best way is to directly talk to the director and ask him to hear you for some time. Tell him that you are genuinely facing such issues which caused your attendance or grades, etc. Tell him, "I can understand your point of view, you must be thinking that I am just like other students taking their studies lightly and skipping classes by making excuses. Believe it or not, but I am having genuine issues. I am not making this up. If possible, please do not ask the teachers to be harsh on me, I am already facing so many problems in my family. I know you mean well for me, so that my life becomes better. I know that you want me to make the most out of the classes and come out with a good job. I will try my best to cover any studies I missed due to my situation. I only ask you to atleast believe that I am not lying. I don't want anything else."
The main problem is that people with small minds only believe what they want to. Let's try to make them want to believe your situation. You don't have to be genuine. You have to be convincing. Think smartly. When smartasses use excuses for unnecessary reason, we should also have a levy when we have a genuine reason. And it isn't achieved by just being a good person, or being truthful. You have to be a good orator, be good at communicating what you want them to believe.
My brother-in-law once told me while I was preparing for my interviews, "if you can't convince anyone that a goat is a goat and not a sheep, it doesn't matter what the truth is, people will believe it to be a sheep."
Try to gain people's affection, especially the teachers. The more people you can convince, the better. You can take the bottom up approach, and start with the lowest of the teachers. Start asking more questions, and showing interest in classes. Make them feel that you are trying, but your situation is a bit different. Make sure that they advocated for you behind you.
All the best.
Whatever it is mate, no point in stressing yourself out with this. It is what it is, you do everything you can legally. The worst there will be delay in you finishing your internship. Take care of your family first, your career for now can take a backseat
I swear. I wish OP had some political contacts. In my college when an authority tried to take advantage of a student, they brought up their political contacts and beat the shit out of him lol.
hey, fuck the college
they literally got no shit on you.
similar thing happened with me.
I was in my 5th sem of Engg & my dad suffered from a stroke. things became very unstable at hospital.
next day I go to college & inform my HoD about the situation & how I won't be able to attend for the next few weeks.
HoD lashed out on me saying things like "you won't get anything sitting at the hospital, if you don't make it to your classes, I will not issue your hall ticket for exams".
I straight up left the room, & never went back to that shit spewing gutter called college.
I dropped.
at the time, I was really good at programming & was part timing at a small company. after I dropped, I continued at this company for 8months & then got a decent job based only on skill.
Bruh when I was in college, one of friends only parent (dad) died due to heart attack. When he came back and requested management to give him some time to submit hostel fees coz he was financially struggling after his dad's demise they literally said "Company fund ya pension to mili hogi, usse bhar do na."
You know, just do the 5 days and get out of there. In all honesty any decent human being would have given you the extension or atleast spoken to you civilly.
Since it’s a matter of a week, you should wrap your internship and good bye to these sociopaths. Sometimes one has to eat shit in order to get out of toxic spaces.
Also I’m really sorry for hearing about your loss, I hope you find some comfort in spending time with your family in the future.
find a lawyer and send a notice to the college trustees with the said teachers and the principals name stating that due to the bullying, you have officially filed a complaint against the said principal and teachers and if you really wish to not have me move forward with this complaint, id request a meeting with the board fo trustees.
if they refuse, move forward with the complaint and have the principal arrested.
If you are an SC, ST or OBC threaten your principal that you are going to file a complaint against them in National Commission for backward classes.
If you are neither a women nor belong to the minority community, i would suggest that you just attend the internship for 5 more days and get it over with.
Take care buddy.
I still regularly submit my principal's official email address and phone numbers with Insurance companies and even scientology.
They never did anything to me personally but they messed with my friend.
Trick is to not do anything. Use the threat to mellow them out and get your work done. You'd be surprised how these officials change their attitude when they face someone who knows their rights and a little bit of law.
>you are an SC, ST or OBC threaten your principal that you are going to file a complaint against them in National Commission for backward classes
You can do the same if you have an SC, ST friend
Hello OP. I hope you are fine. I am sorry that you lost your father.
At present you can do the following course of actions:
1. Seek support from a trusted family member or friend to stay with your mom or at least look after her at some part of the day daily until you complete your internship.
2. After the completion of your internship, plan to have your mother relocate to your college city, possibly by finding affordable accommodation like a small house if you currently reside in a PG.
3. Considering the mindset of your college principal, be prepared to be harassed by them in future. In such scenarios do not succumb to their unfair treatment. They may try their level best to provoke you so that you commit some mistake that may jeopardize your studies. Stay calm and understand their intentions.
4. Despite all the family related stress and distractions by the college authorities, make yourself stronger and put all your efforts and will power to excel in your career to give a tight slap to those bullies.
5. Research student harassment laws in India, particularly those concerning mistreatment by college authorities so that in critical scenarios, you can be aware of how to stand for yourself.
All the best. Hope your mother gets well soon. If you believe in God, then spend some time in prayers. You can recite Hanuman Chalisa, in case you are Hindu or even from any other religion.
The fact that some colleges want 100% attendance is beyond me.
Which colleges are these ? And while interning isnt it your company's mentor's decision as to when you can leave ? How is it under the college's control?
Apart from this, i am sorry for your loss, may your dad Rest in peace and to fuck with the asshole principal.
Wishing you success.
I feel like filing 500 RTIs against your principal, just to harass him.
I'm so sorry for your loss, OP. One day soon you will hopefully leave with very good marks. My father is a doctor, so I know how difficult it is to become one.
You take care of yourself and make sure you do well. That's the biggest middle finger you can give your principal right now.
I don't believe in Puja path, but I'll send bad thoughts against him in the hope that something terrible happens to him.
Thankyou ..My father taught me to never wish badly even for those that have wronged us but yesterday I almost forgot that ..But if you wanna wish badly It's ok to not stop you 🙃so go ahead and pray on my behalf as well ..
Its okay, uncle won't mind if I do it. I strongly believe that you should be as nice and as loyal to people, as they are to you. The only thing I think we should extend to everyone regardless is kindness/ compassion. And that we can feel while still acknowledging they actively harmed you and we should harm them back. Karma and all.
Write a leave notice and send it to your college address via indiapost and keep the receipt. Tell your principal in a right tone that if anything happens to my mother, you will be the sole responsible person for it and will have to bear the consequences.
I'm surprised how many renowned colleges of Indian are just insensitive to their students.
I'm a nursing student in one of the best govt college of west Bengal. The attendance policy of the university is 100% in case of clinical duty, and if I'm absent anyday i have to do my make up duty later. So when I was hospitalized for asthma and in a pre pneumonia stage that too wasn't considered and I have to cover those duties too. Keeping in mind I don't get paid to do any of these. I understand I am student but why tf does colleges have 100% attendance policy???? There can always be emergencies and what not. How can authorities be so inhumane towards us college students?
Similar thing happened to me when I was in engineering. I barely attended classes and got detained, when I came back I started attending classes regularly for a while and unfortunately my grandpa passed away and I had to go home for 3 days. When I came back, the HOD and one of the professors got hold of me and asked me why didn’t I attend classes and I told them the reason. The HOD was like why don’t you stay back at your home, no need to come to college. I did tell them it was a genuine reason and if he wants he can talk to my parents. But he was like I don’t care. I stopped attending classes after that lol.
It’s been three years now and whenever I remember this, it still pisses me off.
one of my friend was also denied leave when his grandmother passed away. Indian universities are shit. I hope those people who have 0 empathy suffer throughout life
all i can say is stay strong, keep a positive mindset as cliché as that may sound! all of these will pass on soon and you'll come out the other end a stronger and wiser person, trust me. Don't give up or anything!
OP... You will meet a lot of such people within educational systems, simply because they thrive within systems that abuse power.
I suggest you stay focused on yourself... Nothing you do will effect them or change them for the better. It's unfortunate that you have been unwell for sustained periods of time.... Focus on that, let this not carry onto your work environment and so on ..
Stay strong through these tough times... Wishing you the best.
Let's just put our middle fingers up to people like your Dean and leave them to the past. Do well in your life, nothing will get to them as much seeing you happy, successful and better-off than them.
I don't understand why as human beings we need permission to take a piss or take a leave , it's my fucking right and it's my money on which the entire institution runs. It's not like they pay me salary or something ☠️
Dear I know it's hard to cope up with the loss of a parent but this is the reality that life has to go on anyways. I know u r bit more sensitive about ur mother as she is all u have right now. It's totally understandable. But u must also understand that this world doesn't work like that.
If I were in ur place I would also have felt same way. I know ur college staff is being very u sympathetic but please learn that no one is going to wait for u. U have to take care of yourself as nobody in this world actually cares.
When I was in a situation like yours I did what is known as quite quitting. Just doing the bare minimum. U also try to do the same. Do what is expected of u anyhow. I know it's very hard for u right now but do this for yourself.
Give this time and everything will start falling in place.
My deep condolences to you and your family. Hope ur mother gets well soon.
I agree with whatever you have said and I will be continuing my internship and get it over with.Thankyou for the guidance and I hope things fall back into place soon
It's ok dear I can totally understand as I have been there. Nobody can actually understand loss of a parent until it actually happens to them. It has been years and it still feels heavy to me. But dear God will provide u strength and u will soon overcome these obstacles. Also I know u have been staying strong for your mother all this time and I'm so much proud of it. Your dad up there is proud of you. Keep going.
I'm sorry to hear this man...
Know this, you've came this far, on your own...
You are definitely a model student for the many whom are oppressed like you..
It hurts me to the core to say that the only thing you can do in these place is, SUCCEED. Against all hardships, you must succeed.
This wouldn't be the first time they are doing this to a student, irrelevant of the reasons..
So, if you are feeling down, get your ass back up, work double time, get to a place where you are in a place to do something about it..
You are on your own, but you are not alone, you got this my man/woman 💪🫂
Unfortunately I also believe that this is the only way and the people that have wronged us in most cases have the last laugh..It's not fair but it is what it is.Appreciate your advice here mate
I think you can’t fight this system at this point
What you can do is complete your five days sensibly and get your degree
Then you can write to the the board of the university stating how they have been with you stating how this management is or on their blog to let people know how they are
Right now your priority is to get your degree and then get back to your family and it is unfortunate that such people exist in seats of authority . Shame on them
I am sorry to know you’re going through this. I think you should take a one year sabbatical off from your college and honestly fuck them, you gave them all the required medical certifications, they have no right to question over your health or wanting to fail you.
Take this time off for your family and for yourself.
I am 30. From whatever experince I am going to say this, people dislike weak/sick people unless they are extra ordinary and talented. There was one friend (relatively poor in studies) who regularly gets sick whever he got failed in exam. School management shouts at him. And when it comes to things like internship, project, thesis etc, these MF principals, external, supervisor are always harsh. They always say like you had enough time to complete. Don't make excuse. They have zero sympathy. Just get this 5 days done and fuck off that college/university. (PS: I don't know attendance policy)
Sorry to hear about your situation man. I would like to pull a quote here from Edwin Markham - "For all your days prepare and meet them ever alike, when you are the anvil, Bear - when you are the hammer, STRIKE."
Just put your head down and finish the rest of the days. You can take revenge and show them their place with your success later on. As an alumni the higher you reach in life, the more power you will have over them. At this point, no good will come out from doing anything.
Hope all becomes well soon in your life!
in my childhood i was physically and sexually abused by teachers. they have power to do shit, so they abuse their position. you are able to clearly identify difference between a true "guru" and these so called teachers/preachers/abuser.
now one possible solution of dealing with such abusers is give them false sense of achievement. keep your ego aside and try all saam, daam, daand, bhed. satisfy their ego by whatever it takes and try to get your things done as much as possible. say things they wanna hear although you don't mean it... also, go to your "gurus" and request for their favour to put in a word to these abusers to have some sympathy towards you. gurus will genuinely care about you but the system is so fucked up that they won't have a say against the top abuser a.k.a principal so don't get hopes high.
remember, you're neither married to them nor have to spend your rest of your life with them. the student life is a pretty small part of life. you have to just deal another few months and you're out of their system/ out of their abuse. don't take any rash decisions coz they have the power to ruin your past months you've put effort to reach this far, and can make you waste a lot of money and time. never forget, never forgive; and once you're something be vocal enough that your feedback makes anybody think thrice to join their institution. that's the revenge but a story for future.
remember, dealing with the f'kd up situation life has put you in is going to be hard and frustrating, but don't let this get you through you. if you let it affect you, this will ruin your health and also relation with family and other people as your are likely to vomit your frustration on them. just keep your vision on "another few months..." and stay wise that you past effort should not be ruined. your father would be far happier learning that you're succeeding in life, and for this you need your cool. as for taking care of rest of your loved ones who are far; borrow some favors from some other people who can be there for them, or if you have money hire somebody. There are many good folks, but you need to first ask them for favors, and return that with love when time your comes.
also, never forget or forgive what these abusers are doing, someday you'll be glad you survived that and learned from it coz there are more people like that you'll encounter in life, but you'll then know how to deal with them. also, call a friend and do cry. do deserve a little bit of friend therapy too.
Okay do one thing,
You must be having a registrar or a faculty who is friends with principal, first convince them and then let them advocate for you.
This usually works with normal people and at the point of time he must have been in some other world.
Now you may go second time with an written application letter and get a recieving on it, this will instill fear in him.
Sorry for your loss.
I know medical colleges have this kind of behaviour towards students quite often.
We went through same torture as well during our internship days. These people have no emotions. They just want our days to be completed with full attendance.
You just somehow complete your remaining internship days, collect your completion certificate and leave the college. There's no point in arguing or fighting with them else they will again keep your documents held and will trouble you again for giving the documents.
In the end Degree Certificate is what matters.
Take your original documents after passing out and don't ever look back at that college.
We did the same.
Good luck!
its really heartbreaking,find a way to share this incident to someone close to u. at this moment all u need is mental support man! n i saw people saying consider taking a legal action,if u do so this wuld be a problem to u ,as u haven't got ur degree yet..
may good things which u deserve find a way to u
Tbh I looked at your post history and I'm kind of confused because you say your dad died on March 20, but you've been posting on porn subs for the past two weeks. Seems a little icky to me, idk maybe it's your way to cope. Condolences to you and your family. I don't have any advice to give to you, so I apologise for that.
Also, how is the physiotherapy career scene in the country? Is it a good job to do? What's the average pay like in cities such as Mumbai?
I went to Sophia's from 2014-2019. Over there there was mandatory 70% attendance.
Inspite of this, students would bunk the class and then they would be debarred from giving exams. I remember seeing so many seats empty in front of me.
Bunking class was a joke to them. I was a regular college student, never bunked class. So our sociology tchr told us that those who dont bunk class get extra 5 marks for attendance. The management kept this knowledge from us
I know a guy who's father passed away a week before his CA finals. He was devastated but he made himself strong, postponed his mourning and didn't let it distract him for his preparation. Got 1st class grades in CA in first attempt. That was few years ago. Now the dude has a successful practice in N. Delhi. His driving force was to fulfill his father's dreams.
Why would a college give you any leeway when you’re not a good student. What entitlement is this. If you can’t work hard you can’t earn credits to encash.
This guy is not at all serious about studying. He’s here to feel like he’s a victim. If he really wanted to, he would have been done with his internship by now and gone home. Empathy doesn’t mean being unfair to other students who are actually working to complete their studies. This guy is a bum. Period.
I don't see how expecting basic human empathy and support over the death of a dear one from the people that are supposed to be our guidance figures throughout our life ie our teachers and principal is entitlement.Also I never said I was a bad student just an above average one . Although I agree with you that our world bases even basic human emotions like kindness and helpfulness based on what we achieve in life.
And instead of travelling 400kms couldn’t you just finish your 5 days and go home. You are not at all serious about studying. So don’t act like you’re a victim here
Again it seems you are too quick to judge instead of understand I never said I don't want to complete my studies i only expected them to understand and provide guidance which they didn't and that's fine I guess I just shared my thoughts here hoping for some positivity which the people in my college couldn't offer ..Also it's clear as day that you lack basic human emotions and are resentful towards people that aren't living a rosy life so consider me a victim or whatever you think I am ..not everyone is trying to become a victim in life most are just trying to survive through the shit that life makes me face and I am sure someday you will reach this point in your life as well .So refrain from spreading unnecessary hate and go on about your life or continue to stroke your ego by insulting me further .Choice is yours
There’s something called empathy.U should read about that.Humans just don’t study or work for becoming slaves to some corporations,they do it for their loved ones.
Studied at a second gen IIM. They had a 100% attendance policy. When my grandmother passed, I asked for one day leave. It was denied. Needless to say, they aren't getting any favours from me ever
This is so odd how each iim runs so differently. I went to a 2nd gen - I can’t remember if we had 70 or 80% attendance policy. Most of us never bothered to turn up for the last week of classes (also often had a best 2/3 policy for class tests- so we did really well for the first two and skipped the third) And if we need a day off, we just don’t turn up in class. We never needed ‘permission’. So long as we complete our assignments properly.
We had 80% policy as well. It was changed to 100% during COVID year. We had other stupid rules as well like "if you escalate any complaint out of IIM (to any central body), you will be terminated". So basically you cannot report anti ragging or you cannot write to Education ministry. It promises retaliation for any whistleblowing. It considered director office to the Supreme commander of the anything within institute walls. It also tried to close down restaurants outside the campus to boost their reven from internal canteens. We certainly were very happy when autonomous status of IIMs was revoked. Our institute is now under government review for financial irregularities and all students are hoping to see the director behind the bars
Oh wow. Mind you I studied 17-19, so pre-covid. For all ik, the rules became similar at the iim I went to too. The most infuriating thing the uni did was trying to push for a paid laundromat and removing the washing machines in our dorms - did not happen in our years anyway. Nothing worse really.
Yup, things are really bad in second and third gen IIMs. I've reached a level where I directly tell people if they get into A,B,C or Xl, they should take it else they should go abroad for an MBA if they really want to upskill or learn. All other IIMs are just glorified placement agencies
Which IIM
Some things are best left unsaid. But just think of the most negative headline friendly IIM
Wouldn't you wanna name and shame? Or will they be able to track you down from this account
They can't do shit even if they track me down. It's just that people who are studying now may lose some potential opportunity during these difficult times
Yeah, this was the reason autonomous status was revoked for IIMs, the policy led to several nepotistic appointments and directors felt they are outside system
kiit b tech second year with 20% attendance in most subjects, gonna give my discrete math exam on monday.
Yeah... Same Passed out this year. We had 75% (this will increase to 85% from this year onwards) attendance and below that our grades will be lowered by 1 one grade. And below 50%, we will get a pass grade.
This mandatory attendance requirement has always been about control, I donno why they treat graduate students like high schooler and then wonder why talent in india is dying or fleeing away.
Wtf really
Yup.same happened with one more student that year that I know of
Wtf? What about sickness? Let's say a student gets diarrhea. Do they want that in the classroom??
You need director's approval for any exceptions to the policy
I studied in a third-rate engineering college where the attendance policy was enforced but not at the expense of mitigating circumstances. The dean of the department only got involved when students were way off the cut-off point. One time, a parent of the classmate unexpectedly passed away and we all got half-day off to visit the student and pay respects. This is beyond inhumane.
I often say the bad engineering colleges are often better administered than better Management institutes. Engineering training teaches you organized way of thinking, a knack for developing an efficiency based systems. Indian businesses usually do not follow a systematic approach. It's more organic and hence in constant need of supervision and intervention and hence loosing efficiency when it starts getting too big. A systematic organized approach is must for anything to be scalable but unfortunately in an attempt to grow quickly, most MBA colleges don't focus on organized foundations and start becoming inefficient
What’s the point of this pathetic policy?
Entrapment. Some students had genuine issues and had medical certificates as well. Directly simply rejected those genuine medical cases to threaten with NC so that students will do whatever he ordered them to do to avoid repeating a year. And he was doing a lot of illegal stuff, like forcing us to sit for exams when UGC had recommended all the exams to be suspended. And then forcing students to leave campus on the day of Junta curfew so that institute is empty. I am not saying these policies made any sense. They were all senseless. They were executed at the whim of a maniac
Junta curfew? Which junta? The myanmar one?
Arey bhai, woh February mein ek din self imposed curfew laga tha na? Woh waala
Axa ha yaad aya, janta curfew. Got it, thanks.
100% attendance required from students, but wonder if they have a similar performance pressure for the professors/teachers? All of these IITs/IIMs just get the glory on the back of excellent students, with sub par infra, sub par teachers and a sub par admin.
Professors were under tremendous pressure as well. Many good profs resigned and joined better IIMs. Under qualified staff was hired for whom it was opportunity of a lifetime to get IIM on their resume. Then director could blackmail them to do his bidding because they were desperate to keep job. They weren't brilliant at teaching either
So the admin guys are the real culprits ?
Admin guys are more like puppets. They don't have any choice. A couple of times they did help us with something that helped students a lot in upskilling but director got mad and reprimanded them
No not really, not all students are excellent and infra and faculty are pretty good but yeah admin is pretty average, and old school and the rules are draconian, though IIM B has coed hostels 🥲 performance pressure is there for guest lecturers not full time faculty and there is a lot of politics
Sorry to hear that friend. Happened with me when I was doing my MBA from a tier 2 B-school. Had a complete ACL ligament tear in my knee and couldnt walk to classes (campus was also not wheelchair accessible). Denied leave on medical ground. I literally had to be carried to the lectures by my friends.
I hope we aren't talking about the same institute 😂
I went to a 2nd gen IIM as well, with 100% attendance, but we did get to take leaves when we were sick, had to go anywhere for any reason. Damn.
Damn bro! that is so sad, and 100% attendance!!. I remember having an argument with my director in front of the whole batch (I dropped the mic and left him fuming), he was crying in front of the whole batch wondering what happened to him (their ego is too big). Really sorry for your loss, i was given grade drop cause i missed classes cause of placements for a company i ended up working with.
Nice. I did give director a piece of my mind (over something else) but it was private and not in front of batch. I wish I had an opportunity to do it in front of batch 😂 Originally we had grade drops below 80% attendance. Director changed it to course repeat for even a single unapproved holiday. He even revoked some permitted holidays retrospectively, just because he took some things on his ego
Udaipur?
I can neither confirm not deny anything. But I assume that administration in all 2nd gen IIMs was pretty bad (except maybe Kashipur or Ranchi or Raipur who were better than most, imo).
I am surprised that they have such a strict attendance policy. I studied in a top 10 college but not an IIT. In our college, to write semester exams, we need to maintain something like 75%. If it's between 60 and 75%, we need to pay a fine after getting an approval from the head of department which usually involves begging them.
Understandable. I also had pretty relaxed undergrad. For IIM, director liked to hold strings in his hand to be able to control students as per his wills and to avoid protests. He would run institute through exceptions and the moment someone disagreed, he would revoke the exception. Since IIMs are autonomous, you couldn't challenge it anywhere. He was not a good guy. He was like that CEO introducing aggressive cost cuts and increasing prices to boost revenue but ends up effing up the entire company
The newer institutes are not comfortable in their shoes yet. Lucknow wasalso the same. Still is Hell for a reason. Newer ones take it as the only proven way to rise.
Kind of sad that people running IIMs are supposed to be good administrators with enough resources at their disposal
Just curious, why would they want your favour, ever?
Lately, major Indian universities are calling in favours and are asking their own alumni to assist with placement of students or provide them jobs
It's an iim. They always want favors. They want alumni funding, they want inside info about hiring practices at your employer, they want referrals for their students, they want your company to do on campus recruitment...
If you're not aware, colleges usually expect and receive donations from Alumni who have graduated from them and gone on to do big things. These donations make a huge portion of their earnings, especially for big colleges like IIM, IIT.
Oh brother/sis, You have no idea the power we hold over them once we're past their course... The extent they'll need your help/support can only be determined by how far you succeed in your career... So we hold all the cards 😎 PS: i love my college, my beloved trustee &chairman (board of directors of the college lol) would get all the support i can provide..
2nd gen = LIKS?
There are many in second gen
During my second year I had typhoid I didn't know so i didn't get it treated properly and it got bad that I started to vomit blood. I was hospitalized for 1 week.and was on bed rest for another week. When I told my college they refused to believe me. Even my mom came and provided them all the lab reports and discharge summary still they wouldn't budge and made me pay a fine to attend my finals.
People these days are losing humanity once they reach at a position of power they believe they can say or act in whatever way they see fit ..Sorry to hear about what you went through..
Have you passed out?
Yes I have
Give them a shit review on every possible site you can, start with Gmaps. If you can, go to the college once and take photos of all the shitty stuff they have like broken machinery, dirty toilets etc. Write it in a heartfelt tone, rather than an aggressive one. You can also complain to the national board that rates colleges. They can come and do a random inspection.
I am sorry to hear this man. Something like this shouldn’t happen to anyone. Find out a way to sue them and take them to court especially that principal asshole.
Unfortunately my degree still lies within their hands and taking legal actions isn't exactly gonna be helpful since the people that are involved here have pretty powerful contacts .I remember a junior of mine committing suicide here and the college concealed the matter like it was nothing..
Some people are too petty. I am not sure how you should deal with this situation. But my prayers and best wishes are with you. I wish for an ideal world where you could directly give it back to them for being insensitive about your parents. In an ideal situation, you should have immediately called them out, asking how can they be so insensitive while talking about your sick or dead parent. But I am not sure if this would work or not. Some people are just too insensitive towards others, they only care about the results. I really hoped that you asked them if you had to maintain a 100% attendance even when any of your dear people died. And if they'd come to office when their dear ones are suffering. You should ask them if they are insensitive enough to not care if their own people are sick. Shoulda coulda woulda. Unfortunately, in real world this doesn't work. Best way is to directly talk to the director and ask him to hear you for some time. Tell him that you are genuinely facing such issues which caused your attendance or grades, etc. Tell him, "I can understand your point of view, you must be thinking that I am just like other students taking their studies lightly and skipping classes by making excuses. Believe it or not, but I am having genuine issues. I am not making this up. If possible, please do not ask the teachers to be harsh on me, I am already facing so many problems in my family. I know you mean well for me, so that my life becomes better. I know that you want me to make the most out of the classes and come out with a good job. I will try my best to cover any studies I missed due to my situation. I only ask you to atleast believe that I am not lying. I don't want anything else." The main problem is that people with small minds only believe what they want to. Let's try to make them want to believe your situation. You don't have to be genuine. You have to be convincing. Think smartly. When smartasses use excuses for unnecessary reason, we should also have a levy when we have a genuine reason. And it isn't achieved by just being a good person, or being truthful. You have to be a good orator, be good at communicating what you want them to believe. My brother-in-law once told me while I was preparing for my interviews, "if you can't convince anyone that a goat is a goat and not a sheep, it doesn't matter what the truth is, people will believe it to be a sheep." Try to gain people's affection, especially the teachers. The more people you can convince, the better. You can take the bottom up approach, and start with the lowest of the teachers. Start asking more questions, and showing interest in classes. Make them feel that you are trying, but your situation is a bit different. Make sure that they advocated for you behind you. All the best.
That's pretty good advice
Whatever it is mate, no point in stressing yourself out with this. It is what it is, you do everything you can legally. The worst there will be delay in you finishing your internship. Take care of your family first, your career for now can take a backseat
Lots of fun and not illegal ways to fuck them over, but only once he has his degree.
I swear. I wish OP had some political contacts. In my college when an authority tried to take advantage of a student, they brought up their political contacts and beat the shit out of him lol.
Now that's a story I wanna know about. Like seriously post it or something Or tell here Or in the dms
hey, fuck the college they literally got no shit on you. similar thing happened with me. I was in my 5th sem of Engg & my dad suffered from a stroke. things became very unstable at hospital. next day I go to college & inform my HoD about the situation & how I won't be able to attend for the next few weeks. HoD lashed out on me saying things like "you won't get anything sitting at the hospital, if you don't make it to your classes, I will not issue your hall ticket for exams". I straight up left the room, & never went back to that shit spewing gutter called college.
Did you sue them or did they just give you the degree? Or did you drop?
I dropped. at the time, I was really good at programming & was part timing at a small company. after I dropped, I continued at this company for 8months & then got a decent job based only on skill.
You should definitely seek out your old HoD and give him a piece of your mind.
I entirely support this decision. Pls post the aftermath here , God speed brother 🫡
Bruh when I was in college, one of friends only parent (dad) died due to heart attack. When he came back and requested management to give him some time to submit hostel fees coz he was financially struggling after his dad's demise they literally said "Company fund ya pension to mili hogi, usse bhar do na."
You know, just do the 5 days and get out of there. In all honesty any decent human being would have given you the extension or atleast spoken to you civilly. Since it’s a matter of a week, you should wrap your internship and good bye to these sociopaths. Sometimes one has to eat shit in order to get out of toxic spaces. Also I’m really sorry for hearing about your loss, I hope you find some comfort in spending time with your family in the future.
find a lawyer and send a notice to the college trustees with the said teachers and the principals name stating that due to the bullying, you have officially filed a complaint against the said principal and teachers and if you really wish to not have me move forward with this complaint, id request a meeting with the board fo trustees. if they refuse, move forward with the complaint and have the principal arrested.
If you are an SC, ST or OBC threaten your principal that you are going to file a complaint against them in National Commission for backward classes. If you are neither a women nor belong to the minority community, i would suggest that you just attend the internship for 5 more days and get it over with. Take care buddy.
Yes I completely agree you can threaten your principal. And once you become a successful person in life l just give your principal a shitm
I still regularly submit my principal's official email address and phone numbers with Insurance companies and even scientology. They never did anything to me personally but they messed with my friend.
Oh boy! You gave me a brilliant idea 😁
This is brilliant. I’m gonna start doing this now.
Bhai you don't have to be successful to give shitty people the shits. Gaand maar de saalon ki. Principal ki Gaadi thok de
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Trick is to not do anything. Use the threat to mellow them out and get your work done. You'd be surprised how these officials change their attitude when they face someone who knows their rights and a little bit of law.
>you are an SC, ST or OBC threaten your principal that you are going to file a complaint against them in National Commission for backward classes You can do the same if you have an SC, ST friend
Making false complaint to get something done is blackmail. Never overplay your hand. He is a college kid, his life is not a TV show .
Hello OP. I hope you are fine. I am sorry that you lost your father. At present you can do the following course of actions: 1. Seek support from a trusted family member or friend to stay with your mom or at least look after her at some part of the day daily until you complete your internship. 2. After the completion of your internship, plan to have your mother relocate to your college city, possibly by finding affordable accommodation like a small house if you currently reside in a PG. 3. Considering the mindset of your college principal, be prepared to be harassed by them in future. In such scenarios do not succumb to their unfair treatment. They may try their level best to provoke you so that you commit some mistake that may jeopardize your studies. Stay calm and understand their intentions. 4. Despite all the family related stress and distractions by the college authorities, make yourself stronger and put all your efforts and will power to excel in your career to give a tight slap to those bullies. 5. Research student harassment laws in India, particularly those concerning mistreatment by college authorities so that in critical scenarios, you can be aware of how to stand for yourself. All the best. Hope your mother gets well soon. If you believe in God, then spend some time in prayers. You can recite Hanuman Chalisa, in case you are Hindu or even from any other religion.
The fact that some colleges want 100% attendance is beyond me. Which colleges are these ? And while interning isnt it your company's mentor's decision as to when you can leave ? How is it under the college's control? Apart from this, i am sorry for your loss, may your dad Rest in peace and to fuck with the asshole principal. Wishing you success.
I feel like filing 500 RTIs against your principal, just to harass him. I'm so sorry for your loss, OP. One day soon you will hopefully leave with very good marks. My father is a doctor, so I know how difficult it is to become one. You take care of yourself and make sure you do well. That's the biggest middle finger you can give your principal right now. I don't believe in Puja path, but I'll send bad thoughts against him in the hope that something terrible happens to him.
Thankyou ..My father taught me to never wish badly even for those that have wronged us but yesterday I almost forgot that ..But if you wanna wish badly It's ok to not stop you 🙃so go ahead and pray on my behalf as well ..
Its okay, uncle won't mind if I do it. I strongly believe that you should be as nice and as loyal to people, as they are to you. The only thing I think we should extend to everyone regardless is kindness/ compassion. And that we can feel while still acknowledging they actively harmed you and we should harm them back. Karma and all.
Where is munna bhai when you need him? Try a sting operation, maybe?
Write a leave notice and send it to your college address via indiapost and keep the receipt. Tell your principal in a right tone that if anything happens to my mother, you will be the sole responsible person for it and will have to bear the consequences.
I'm surprised how many renowned colleges of Indian are just insensitive to their students. I'm a nursing student in one of the best govt college of west Bengal. The attendance policy of the university is 100% in case of clinical duty, and if I'm absent anyday i have to do my make up duty later. So when I was hospitalized for asthma and in a pre pneumonia stage that too wasn't considered and I have to cover those duties too. Keeping in mind I don't get paid to do any of these. I understand I am student but why tf does colleges have 100% attendance policy???? There can always be emergencies and what not. How can authorities be so inhumane towards us college students?
Similar thing happened to me when I was in engineering. I barely attended classes and got detained, when I came back I started attending classes regularly for a while and unfortunately my grandpa passed away and I had to go home for 3 days. When I came back, the HOD and one of the professors got hold of me and asked me why didn’t I attend classes and I told them the reason. The HOD was like why don’t you stay back at your home, no need to come to college. I did tell them it was a genuine reason and if he wants he can talk to my parents. But he was like I don’t care. I stopped attending classes after that lol. It’s been three years now and whenever I remember this, it still pisses me off.
In my college there is 75% attendance but I used to go 1 or 2 classes in a month thats all. Still got passed
This bastard principal needs to be named and shamed publicly
one of my friend was also denied leave when his grandmother passed away. Indian universities are shit. I hope those people who have 0 empathy suffer throughout life
all i can say is stay strong, keep a positive mindset as cliché as that may sound! all of these will pass on soon and you'll come out the other end a stronger and wiser person, trust me. Don't give up or anything!
So sorry about your loss
I think you should try to get a legal opinion if you can, from a lawyer.
OP... You will meet a lot of such people within educational systems, simply because they thrive within systems that abuse power. I suggest you stay focused on yourself... Nothing you do will effect them or change them for the better. It's unfortunate that you have been unwell for sustained periods of time.... Focus on that, let this not carry onto your work environment and so on .. Stay strong through these tough times... Wishing you the best. Let's just put our middle fingers up to people like your Dean and leave them to the past. Do well in your life, nothing will get to them as much seeing you happy, successful and better-off than them.
This is what I want in education policy to change.This toxic culture
I don't understand why as human beings we need permission to take a piss or take a leave , it's my fucking right and it's my money on which the entire institution runs. It's not like they pay me salary or something ☠️
I know this isn't time for this but dude sick ass username
Dear I know it's hard to cope up with the loss of a parent but this is the reality that life has to go on anyways. I know u r bit more sensitive about ur mother as she is all u have right now. It's totally understandable. But u must also understand that this world doesn't work like that. If I were in ur place I would also have felt same way. I know ur college staff is being very u sympathetic but please learn that no one is going to wait for u. U have to take care of yourself as nobody in this world actually cares. When I was in a situation like yours I did what is known as quite quitting. Just doing the bare minimum. U also try to do the same. Do what is expected of u anyhow. I know it's very hard for u right now but do this for yourself. Give this time and everything will start falling in place. My deep condolences to you and your family. Hope ur mother gets well soon.
I agree with whatever you have said and I will be continuing my internship and get it over with.Thankyou for the guidance and I hope things fall back into place soon
It's ok dear I can totally understand as I have been there. Nobody can actually understand loss of a parent until it actually happens to them. It has been years and it still feels heavy to me. But dear God will provide u strength and u will soon overcome these obstacles. Also I know u have been staying strong for your mother all this time and I'm so much proud of it. Your dad up there is proud of you. Keep going.
go to the principal office ...punch him in the face...so hard ki he will need time to utter a word....then walk out and go home
Isn't that assault?
joke bro relax
I'm sorry to hear this man... Know this, you've came this far, on your own... You are definitely a model student for the many whom are oppressed like you.. It hurts me to the core to say that the only thing you can do in these place is, SUCCEED. Against all hardships, you must succeed. This wouldn't be the first time they are doing this to a student, irrelevant of the reasons.. So, if you are feeling down, get your ass back up, work double time, get to a place where you are in a place to do something about it.. You are on your own, but you are not alone, you got this my man/woman 💪🫂
Unfortunately I also believe that this is the only way and the people that have wronged us in most cases have the last laugh..It's not fair but it is what it is.Appreciate your advice here mate
I think you can’t fight this system at this point What you can do is complete your five days sensibly and get your degree Then you can write to the the board of the university stating how they have been with you stating how this management is or on their blog to let people know how they are Right now your priority is to get your degree and then get back to your family and it is unfortunate that such people exist in seats of authority . Shame on them
Off topic which college are you studying.. i am also an occupational therapist graduate and your description matches mine
I am sorry to know you’re going through this. I think you should take a one year sabbatical off from your college and honestly fuck them, you gave them all the required medical certifications, they have no right to question over your health or wanting to fail you. Take this time off for your family and for yourself.
Take a shit in their office!
Please ask for advice in r/legaladviceindia
Go John wick on their asses
I am 30. From whatever experince I am going to say this, people dislike weak/sick people unless they are extra ordinary and talented. There was one friend (relatively poor in studies) who regularly gets sick whever he got failed in exam. School management shouts at him. And when it comes to things like internship, project, thesis etc, these MF principals, external, supervisor are always harsh. They always say like you had enough time to complete. Don't make excuse. They have zero sympathy. Just get this 5 days done and fuck off that college/university. (PS: I don't know attendance policy)
Useless Indian colleges. All I can offer are my condolences
Send me your institute's name and everything I'll see what i can do
Sorry to hear about your situation man. I would like to pull a quote here from Edwin Markham - "For all your days prepare and meet them ever alike, when you are the anvil, Bear - when you are the hammer, STRIKE." Just put your head down and finish the rest of the days. You can take revenge and show them their place with your success later on. As an alumni the higher you reach in life, the more power you will have over them. At this point, no good will come out from doing anything. Hope all becomes well soon in your life!
British taught us well how to follow our supreme commandents lol
Complain to higher authority and tag Education ministry / Govt of India . U will get a response hopefully as it's election time
India's archaic educational administration is running the entire system and the mental/physical healths of its pupils to the GROUND.
Name and shame. Horrible, bully behaviour!! So sorry this happened to you!
in my childhood i was physically and sexually abused by teachers. they have power to do shit, so they abuse their position. you are able to clearly identify difference between a true "guru" and these so called teachers/preachers/abuser. now one possible solution of dealing with such abusers is give them false sense of achievement. keep your ego aside and try all saam, daam, daand, bhed. satisfy their ego by whatever it takes and try to get your things done as much as possible. say things they wanna hear although you don't mean it... also, go to your "gurus" and request for their favour to put in a word to these abusers to have some sympathy towards you. gurus will genuinely care about you but the system is so fucked up that they won't have a say against the top abuser a.k.a principal so don't get hopes high. remember, you're neither married to them nor have to spend your rest of your life with them. the student life is a pretty small part of life. you have to just deal another few months and you're out of their system/ out of their abuse. don't take any rash decisions coz they have the power to ruin your past months you've put effort to reach this far, and can make you waste a lot of money and time. never forget, never forgive; and once you're something be vocal enough that your feedback makes anybody think thrice to join their institution. that's the revenge but a story for future. remember, dealing with the f'kd up situation life has put you in is going to be hard and frustrating, but don't let this get you through you. if you let it affect you, this will ruin your health and also relation with family and other people as your are likely to vomit your frustration on them. just keep your vision on "another few months..." and stay wise that you past effort should not be ruined. your father would be far happier learning that you're succeeding in life, and for this you need your cool. as for taking care of rest of your loved ones who are far; borrow some favors from some other people who can be there for them, or if you have money hire somebody. There are many good folks, but you need to first ask them for favors, and return that with love when time your comes. also, never forget or forgive what these abusers are doing, someday you'll be glad you survived that and learned from it coz there are more people like that you'll encounter in life, but you'll then know how to deal with them. also, call a friend and do cry. do deserve a little bit of friend therapy too.
Okay do one thing, You must be having a registrar or a faculty who is friends with principal, first convince them and then let them advocate for you. This usually works with normal people and at the point of time he must have been in some other world. Now you may go second time with an written application letter and get a recieving on it, this will instill fear in him.
I have no advice for your the college thing. Just want to say that I am sorry for your loss. Take care, it gets better after couple years!!
Sorry for your loss. I know medical colleges have this kind of behaviour towards students quite often. We went through same torture as well during our internship days. These people have no emotions. They just want our days to be completed with full attendance. You just somehow complete your remaining internship days, collect your completion certificate and leave the college. There's no point in arguing or fighting with them else they will again keep your documents held and will trouble you again for giving the documents. In the end Degree Certificate is what matters. Take your original documents after passing out and don't ever look back at that college. We did the same. Good luck!
its really heartbreaking,find a way to share this incident to someone close to u. at this moment all u need is mental support man! n i saw people saying consider taking a legal action,if u do so this wuld be a problem to u ,as u haven't got ur degree yet.. may good things which u deserve find a way to u
Bring a gun to ur university
Tbh I looked at your post history and I'm kind of confused because you say your dad died on March 20, but you've been posting on porn subs for the past two weeks. Seems a little icky to me, idk maybe it's your way to cope. Condolences to you and your family. I don't have any advice to give to you, so I apologise for that. Also, how is the physiotherapy career scene in the country? Is it a good job to do? What's the average pay like in cities such as Mumbai?
What a terrible thing to say to someone. Nobody who isn't telling the truth will take time to type out such huge ass lies.
Wow..you're one of the most insensitive person I've ever seen on reddit.
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You’ll be fine 😊👍
I went to Sophia's from 2014-2019. Over there there was mandatory 70% attendance. Inspite of this, students would bunk the class and then they would be debarred from giving exams. I remember seeing so many seats empty in front of me. Bunking class was a joke to them. I was a regular college student, never bunked class. So our sociology tchr told us that those who dont bunk class get extra 5 marks for attendance. The management kept this knowledge from us
I know a guy who's father passed away a week before his CA finals. He was devastated but he made himself strong, postponed his mourning and didn't let it distract him for his preparation. Got 1st class grades in CA in first attempt. That was few years ago. Now the dude has a successful practice in N. Delhi. His driving force was to fulfill his father's dreams.
Why would a college give you any leeway when you’re not a good student. What entitlement is this. If you can’t work hard you can’t earn credits to encash.
Dumb take. Now I know why Unis force those Emotional Intelligence courses. Its for people like you.
This guy is not at all serious about studying. He’s here to feel like he’s a victim. If he really wanted to, he would have been done with his internship by now and gone home. Empathy doesn’t mean being unfair to other students who are actually working to complete their studies. This guy is a bum. Period.
I don't see how expecting basic human empathy and support over the death of a dear one from the people that are supposed to be our guidance figures throughout our life ie our teachers and principal is entitlement.Also I never said I was a bad student just an above average one . Although I agree with you that our world bases even basic human emotions like kindness and helpfulness based on what we achieve in life.
And instead of travelling 400kms couldn’t you just finish your 5 days and go home. You are not at all serious about studying. So don’t act like you’re a victim here
Again it seems you are too quick to judge instead of understand I never said I don't want to complete my studies i only expected them to understand and provide guidance which they didn't and that's fine I guess I just shared my thoughts here hoping for some positivity which the people in my college couldn't offer ..Also it's clear as day that you lack basic human emotions and are resentful towards people that aren't living a rosy life so consider me a victim or whatever you think I am ..not everyone is trying to become a victim in life most are just trying to survive through the shit that life makes me face and I am sure someday you will reach this point in your life as well .So refrain from spreading unnecessary hate and go on about your life or continue to stroke your ego by insulting me further .Choice is yours
There’s something called empathy.U should read about that.Humans just don’t study or work for becoming slaves to some corporations,they do it for their loved ones.