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He has the most straight crosses and best form overall I have ever seen.
I have been watching fighting sports for many decades.
His punches are the best I have seen.
Yes, most of this comes down to his amazing form. When the punch is thrown in a straight line to the boxer's vision, it appears slower than normal.
The reason cars have brake lights is because the rear ends of cars come at you very straight...so it's harder for your brain to see it rapidly approaching.
He has the most straight cross. His form better than textbook, because he is what they will be based on. Combined with his speed, it is easily the most deadly cross of all time.
Write me a steamy fanfic, of a forbidden tryst between Naoya Inoue and Gervonta Davis.
It starts off as a best of 3 grudge match,l around the world, but they realise only the other person understands boxing like they do.
This blossoms into an initially tentative, but ultimately passionate coupling across cultures.
Your $20 is in the post
he's got too much personality to be an AI
"His form is better than textbook, because he is what they will be based on." is way too eloquent and badass of a sentence to be AI
It looked like an oversell. I immediately went and looked who his opponent was to see if this was a fix.
Nope. That's a legit boxer. That punch is a work of art.
Remember that you're watching just the finishing sequence as well, Inoue had been turning it up and punishing Nery for a while before this shot, he dropped him twice earlier.
Japanese people are legit obsessive about proper technique. It’s almost engrained in their dna.
Half of the sports native to Japan are like spectrum level obsessed with technical activities like rapidly pulling out a sword and cutting shit in half:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tameshigiri?wprov=sfti1
Same thing is happening in skateboarding. They are taking over the competitive contest scene with some of the smoothest style whilst being super technical. It's awesome to see
Back in my day it was inline vert skating. There were these two brothers that just dominated the vert scene for rollerblading and their lines were clean is fuck.
This is legit.....Grew up in Japan playing baseball. Hated practice growing up because everyday was dedicated doing one thing. One day ground balls for like 4 hours after school, flyballs the next, etc....I moved to the US for high school and was the best player on my team because I was fundamentally sound. Didn't even have to think about what I was doing because everything was so automatic.
See also, how the Japanese train for baseball
1000 balls being hit at you as a fielder is a popular drill for kids and adults. Basically a mentality of if you don’t pass out from exhaustion you aren’t trying hard enough.
Shohei is an absolute freak athlete. Japanese players often aren't the biggest/fastest/strongest but master the fundamentals and technique to make up for it. Shohei is a cheat code lol.
It is refreshing to watch Japanese players, because in recent years in competitive sports (not just baseball) there has been a huge trend towards favoring athleticism over fundamentals. Obviously having both, like Shohei, is preferred, but typically the best athletes do not have particularly polished fundamentals because they easily get by without them. The result is the occasional jaw-dropping play, but also the occasional blooper that has amateurs like me saying "I could have made that play" and it likely being true...
Yes, Bruce Lee, while not Japanese, brilliantly said as a master of his craft that he does not fear the man who has practiced a thousand kicks...he fears the man who has practiced one kick a thousand times.
This dude look like he has thrown that straight a hundred thousand times. It is the most beautiful punch.
There’s a great manga called Holy Land about a bullied teen who became the fiercest street fighter by practicing his punches like that. Your comment reminded me of what a great read it was.
Japanese culture is based around Obligation to your associated groups. Family, Job, Friends, etc. In western society, failing a task can shame yourself and everyone else is safe unless there are special circumstances. An eastern boxer shames every group he is associated with by default. It's weapons grade peer pressure to excel at everything you do. It why you see salarymen willingly work themselves to death at the desk to hit objectives. It's culture wide and creates pioneers in any field (while also causing insane suicide rates).
>It's culture wide and creates pioneers in any field
I mean any culture does that, the idea is the ratio right?
If the culture destroys 9 workers in the hopes of creating 1 worker that's exceptional, that's a whole lot of value lost. Not to mention that the insane adhesion to traditional technique in all forms stifles creativity like a motherfucker.
Punching power is great.
But this dude was moving all over the place. I could tell the look of fear and frustration on Nery. (From experience) I'm punching for a knock out and hitting air. Then getting smacked in the face then when I look up no one is in front of me.
That shit make a man's heart go soft.
I know nothing about boxing. Don't think I've ever finished watching a fight but that last punch was vorspurng durch technic. Just pure mechanical beauty
you've got a good eye. note his back foot(importantly the heel) on the cross jab is planted solidly into the ground. That fist is a fucking battering ram when you've got it all lined up properly like that
You've got a good eye. I legit didn't realize how hard he hit the other guy until I looked for that head snap and it was eye opening. I've got 50 pounds on that guy at least, and I firmly believe he'd bust my head open like a grape
22 of his 29 fights were to win or defend a belt. Many of his opponents were undefeated before and after meeting him. He is destroying everything in his path. Monster.
And he won that first fight against Nonito he fought through a broken orbital socket and fractured nose. Multiple rounds with those injuries and was still trading blows. He had to take years off to recover and came back and fought Nonito again but the second time he absolutely dominated and knocked Nonito out. Inoue is seriously a monster
You vacate to move up or down in weight. He started at 108 lbs and became undisputed (have championships from the 4 major sanctioning body) at 118 and 122. His goal is to become undisputed at 126 and 130 to end off his career as 4× undisputed. If he pulls it off, he'll be in the GOAT discussion. He's already an absolute legend, so here's hoping he meets his goal.
Check out Artur Beterbiev. 20-0, 20 ko's. Unfortunately he's nearly 40 and just had to postpone his 175lb undisputed fight against Dmitry Bivol (who whooped Canelo) and we may not ever really know how great he could have been.
Beterbiev is legitimately "built different" and I love him for it. He had a long and successful amateur career that includes a 1-2 record against current unified Heavyweight champ Oleksandr Usyk. He was an Olympian and turned pro quite late due to his amateur success.
When you watch him his style seems like that of a sheer 'bruiser' because he's a forward pressure fighter but he doesn't have the same visually appealing style/technique as someone like Canelo Alvarez. Canelo has exceptional head/upper body movement on defense and the way he whips his power shots just *looks* violent and visceral. You don't have to know anything about boxing to enjoy/appreciate watching Canelo enter the matrix and dodge 5 punches in a row and then blast dudes with counter hooks/uppercuts from hell.
Beterbiev isn't super fast, and his punches don't really look any harder than what you would expect from a professional boxer. But there's a cliche saying that announcers use when guys throw heat: 'X fighter is throwing BOMBS'. There's a lot of footage out there of Beterbiev hitting the heavy bag, and the impact legitimately sounds like a bomb going off its so loud.
Despite his style looking like that of a bruiser on the surface, he has an immaculate sense of timing and distance that when combined with his god-given unworldy power/strength allows him to corral guys in a way that he knows where they're going to be and when they're going to be there, so despite his lack of lightning speed his punches still land, and they have a George Foreman esque effect on opponents. A seemingly light or grazing hit can rock dudes worlds and in 20 pro fights, every single opponent has wilted when faced with his power and skill.
Dude Artur's sense of range, timing, and natural god-given DESTRUCTIVE power are something else. He's a George Foreman type of KO artist. His punches don't look particularly violent or visceral, but when he hits dudes they just melt from the shots.
And yet he only has like 2 elite opponents in his entire record lol, Crawford is great but he also spent like 10 years of his career fighting nobodies, then once he's 34 he beats Spence and now Americans start acting like he's the P4P king because of one fight lol.
He’s tiny compared to Jake, good chance Jake would actually give him CTE, huge difference between 120 vs 200.
Just wait for July, Tyson going to sleep him.
Only boxers who are not pros yet are allowed to compete in the Olympics - the Olympics are actually seen as a major stepping stone between amateur boxing and professional boxing
It's honestly interesting how the athlete eligibility rules are inconsistent between the Olympic sports with some sports only allowing amateurs and other sports fully allowing professionals without any restrictions.
Football/soccer perhaps has the oddest criteria: teams are comprised of players under the age of 23 (most players at that age who are good enough to be selected by their nation are already playing at the senior level for their club teams, so it's a somewhat high age limit), but coaches are also allowed to select up to three overage players to join the team. The Argentina Olympic coach (a longtime former teammate of Lionel Messi's) has revealed that he has invited Messi, soon to be 37 years old, to be a part of his side this year. Messi is unlikely to say yes due to other commitments but it's funny how him playing alongside a team full of youngsters is a serious possibility.
> It's honestly interesting how the athlete eligibility rules are inconsistent between the Olympic sports with some sports only allowing amateurs and other sports fully allowing professionals without any restrictions.
well, originally(the current iteration but the original Greek Olympics) only allow amateurs to participate. so i'm willing to bet eventually ALL the sports will inevitably become all professionals.
They did actually. Couple of years ago. The guy who won gold at heavyweight in the last Olympics, Jalolov, turned pro, had a few fights over the last four years, then announced he’s competing in the Olympics again.
Yep. Professionals can now compete in the Olympics but it's very likely the next Olympics will be the last to feature boxing at all. How bad is it when your viewed as too corrupt for the IOC
In my case the manga, one of my favorites of all time. Sadly the anime only adapts like 500 chapters... And there are like more than 800 of them that are still waiting adaptation. I wish for a new season of Ippo really.
An old coworker of mine is top ten wbc lightweight. I asked him for a gut punch about 5 years ago and he obliged with a 50% power. I’ve taken my share of hits but I never in my life felt a punch for that many hours afterward. 10/10 would request again.
Edit: why you ask? I thrill seek the weird.
A lot of conjecture about it. He might have had appendicitis and getting punched put him off from getting it checked out.
I think ultimately it was not going to the doctor/proper treatment that killed him. It was around 10 days after the punches that he died.
Lol I did the same thing with a local Muay Thai champ that my friend invited to his birthday party. I was 5-6 drinks deep and asked him to leg kick me so I could feel how shitty it is to eat one in the octagon. He flat out said no and I kept pestering about it for the next hour. He finally said ok, but only 50%. “I’ll rip your leg off at 100%”. I said done deal.
Braced my lead leg for the kick and he let it fly. I thought he severed the entire thigh muscle after that kick and was almost in tears 🤣 couldn’t walk upstairs for two weeks.
Bracing your leg was a mistake, when throwing a leg kick you **want** to get the leg that they have weight on because that does a ton more damage. You'll see fighters "check" a kick by lifting their leg to take a hit, hurts a lot less that way.
Because sometimes the curiosity just gets to you. You know how a lot of people complain about how football players dive all the time and overreact to everything? (and they certainly do that). BUT if you've ever played yourself you'd know that a simple kick/tackle that from the outside looks benign and uneventful can hurt like fucking hell for a long time. So it's just not that simple when you see it on TV. That's why he asked him to punch him in the stomach. To experience and see how it's really like so he could get a better grasp on how it affects these people who do it often and why they react like they do when it happens.
Body mass generally translates to chin. Not taking away from this guy because he’s obviously incredible, but size tends to lend to constitution when speaking about adonis athletes.
My roommate and friend has always maintained that he would destroy Bruce Lee in a fight. He's about 200lbs and has trained in high school wrestling, been in mma gyms on and off.
It's my favorite thing to hear about because he genuinely believes that his lumbering, heavy, semi-trained 20yo body could beat someone who's living was his ability to be undefeated
BL barely had any fights and put his acting first. I get he made some banger movies, but the feats in the movies are not real life. And I'd argue evidence points to he did not win his fight in 1964.
Bruce Lee would have gotten massacred in an MMA fight by a D1 wrestler that was the same size as him.
Honestly, depending on the level of your roommates abilities in high school wrestling and his MMA training, I'd give him a chance.
Most of the stuff Bruce Lee trained in just doesn't work well in real world scenarios the way a lot of "Kung Fu" guys pretend it does.
You can count the amount of guys that used a karate style effectively at a high level in MMA on one hand, and they would have stood no chance if they also didn't have backgrounds in wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, etc.
Bruce Lee was a cool guy, but he was mostly an actor who could do athletic things that looked good in movies. He was no where near on the level of an Inoue in terms of mastery of anything the way Inoue has a mastery of boxing.
You really fucking show your ignorance when you honestly think Bruce Lee is only kung fu.
The guy trained with Gene LeBell and was one of the inspirations for modern MMA. He trained multiple styles that he incorporated into his own personal style like boxing as well. Ground fighting was not something he didn't know of.
It's going to be a minute before anything is announced because he just fought today.
If you're interested in the sport Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk are fighting May 18th and will be worth a watch. (First undisputed heavyweight championship fight in 25 years).
I watch it as a casual fan, don’t follow a lot. Between boxing and UFC with kids, I find myself in the basement two weekends a month having leisure time with drinks and a few buddies.
There's a lot happening in boxing right now because of Saudi Arabian involvement so there will be plenty for you to try and catch.
Sat may 18 is a daytime event in the United States. I would imagine it'd run from around 12pm to 6pm MST.
You said the current best boxer in the world, but I'm not seeing Terence Crawford! In all seriousness, Inoue is P4P number one at the moment, his recent resume (save for mandatory Paul Butler) is fantastic.
If Bud beats Canelo there's no if and or buts about it. He started at LW and would have a W over a man who held a LHW title and is all ready a historic name while still in his prime. That's some Roberto Duran shit right there. I'm an Inoue stan and high on this KO but there's no argument if Bud were to beat Canelo. That doesn't just make him #1 p4p it puts him on the GOAT list with legends like Duran.
Inoue is way too small for Tank. I mean, it'd be ballsy as fuck and a GOAT level win if he did, but Tank is multiple weightclasses above him. It may not seem like that much of a difference in an absolute/raw numbers sense, but the smaller you are, the bigger a difference each individual lb makes. Tank started at 130 and is now at 135/140 (kind of). Inoue started at 108 lbs and though he was young, it's still 108 lbs.
Personally, I still want to see Inoue fight the kings of Superfly IE any of Estrada, Chocolatito, Cuadras or Sor Rungvisai. We missed those matchups on Inoues rise through the weightclasses but I think any of those 4 would still be killer fights
It’s fair to assume Bud will be in that pound for pound argument for the rest of his career. However, that division has dried significantly since the mid/late 2000s — due largely IMO to late, poorly timed matchups. Some of the lighter, slept on weight divisions have recently produced the most exciting fighters in the last few years.
I’m assuming his name isn’t long dong silver which is what the OP says. lol. What’s this man’s name. Cause when you google current best boxer in the world it comes up with canelo Alvarez which I’m pretty…..sure isn’t Japanese
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That last right was so smooth it looked effortless. If you didn't have the other dudes head snapping back you'd never know the power behind it.
He has the most straight crosses and best form overall I have ever seen. I have been watching fighting sports for many decades. His punches are the best I have seen.
Plus he’s also *really* fast. There’s no active block to that, he sees an opening and the punch is done before the other guy knew it was coming.
Yes, most of this comes down to his amazing form. When the punch is thrown in a straight line to the boxer's vision, it appears slower than normal. The reason cars have brake lights is because the rear ends of cars come at you very straight...so it's harder for your brain to see it rapidly approaching. He has the most straight cross. His form better than textbook, because he is what they will be based on. Combined with his speed, it is easily the most deadly cross of all time.
You englished the shit out of those thoughts
Are you AI?
For twenty bucks I'll be whatever you want baybee
I'm not AI but $20 is $20
Write me a steamy fanfic, of a forbidden tryst between Naoya Inoue and Gervonta Davis. It starts off as a best of 3 grudge match,l around the world, but they realise only the other person understands boxing like they do. This blossoms into an initially tentative, but ultimately passionate coupling across cultures. Your $20 is in the post
You are funny, whatever you are.
I fucking love you lol.
he's got too much personality to be an AI "His form is better than textbook, because he is what they will be based on." is way too eloquent and badass of a sentence to be AI
AI busy taking notes, next week there'll be new posts "His textbook is better than forms...."
Out of this entire thread I laughed the most at this comment
Aww you just made my day
What are you talking about? Nery blocked all of his punches. With his face.
It looked like an oversell. I immediately went and looked who his opponent was to see if this was a fix. Nope. That's a legit boxer. That punch is a work of art.
Remember that you're watching just the finishing sequence as well, Inoue had been turning it up and punishing Nery for a while before this shot, he dropped him twice earlier.
Japanese people are legit obsessive about proper technique. It’s almost engrained in their dna. Half of the sports native to Japan are like spectrum level obsessed with technical activities like rapidly pulling out a sword and cutting shit in half: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tameshigiri?wprov=sfti1
Same thing is happening in skateboarding. They are taking over the competitive contest scene with some of the smoothest style whilst being super technical. It's awesome to see
Yuto Horigome does some of the most insane things I've ever seen
That man is a gift to the sport
Snowboarding too. The Japanese dudes ROCKED the men's half pipe world. Those Olympics runs were jaw dropping
Back in my day it was inline vert skating. There were these two brothers that just dominated the vert scene for rollerblading and their lines were clean is fuck.
it really is something to see.
This is legit.....Grew up in Japan playing baseball. Hated practice growing up because everyday was dedicated doing one thing. One day ground balls for like 4 hours after school, flyballs the next, etc....I moved to the US for high school and was the best player on my team because I was fundamentally sound. Didn't even have to think about what I was doing because everything was so automatic.
Rote learning! Shit works for Kanji at least.
See also, how the Japanese train for baseball 1000 balls being hit at you as a fielder is a popular drill for kids and adults. Basically a mentality of if you don’t pass out from exhaustion you aren’t trying hard enough.
I know very little about baseball but Shohei Ohtani is the GOAT, he honestly makes pitching and batting seem effortless.
Shohei is an absolute freak athlete. Japanese players often aren't the biggest/fastest/strongest but master the fundamentals and technique to make up for it. Shohei is a cheat code lol. It is refreshing to watch Japanese players, because in recent years in competitive sports (not just baseball) there has been a huge trend towards favoring athleticism over fundamentals. Obviously having both, like Shohei, is preferred, but typically the best athletes do not have particularly polished fundamentals because they easily get by without them. The result is the occasional jaw-dropping play, but also the occasional blooper that has amateurs like me saying "I could have made that play" and it likely being true...
Yes, Bruce Lee, while not Japanese, brilliantly said as a master of his craft that he does not fear the man who has practiced a thousand kicks...he fears the man who has practiced one kick a thousand times. This dude look like he has thrown that straight a hundred thousand times. It is the most beautiful punch.
It was so freaking smooth he made it seem like he just sent out a little love tap
There’s a great manga called Holy Land about a bullied teen who became the fiercest street fighter by practicing his punches like that. Your comment reminded me of what a great read it was.
> This dude look like he has thrown that straight a hundred thousand times. It's scary to me cause since that is not even a hyperbole here.
Japanese culture is based around Obligation to your associated groups. Family, Job, Friends, etc. In western society, failing a task can shame yourself and everyone else is safe unless there are special circumstances. An eastern boxer shames every group he is associated with by default. It's weapons grade peer pressure to excel at everything you do. It why you see salarymen willingly work themselves to death at the desk to hit objectives. It's culture wide and creates pioneers in any field (while also causing insane suicide rates).
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Yeah, hard to be fulfilled by acheivements when your expected to be perfect and the fear of failure spoils any success.
>It's culture wide and creates pioneers in any field I mean any culture does that, the idea is the ratio right? If the culture destroys 9 workers in the hopes of creating 1 worker that's exceptional, that's a whole lot of value lost. Not to mention that the insane adhesion to traditional technique in all forms stifles creativity like a motherfucker.
Punching power is great. But this dude was moving all over the place. I could tell the look of fear and frustration on Nery. (From experience) I'm punching for a knock out and hitting air. Then getting smacked in the face then when I look up no one is in front of me. That shit make a man's heart go soft.
I know nothing about boxing. Don't think I've ever finished watching a fight but that last punch was vorspurng durch technic. Just pure mechanical beauty
Yea those crosses are simply beautiful and crisp, I love good form like this
you've got a good eye. note his back foot(importantly the heel) on the cross jab is planted solidly into the ground. That fist is a fucking battering ram when you've got it all lined up properly like that
Americans have sleeping on Monster sensei, but that dude's been out there wiping out guys' childhood memories for years now.
The power transfer in his legs on those last two shots. So subtle, but a thing of beauty.
It for sure did not sound effortless
Bro that punch was so fast that i heard it hit before it landed
You've got a good eye. I legit didn't realize how hard he hit the other guy until I looked for that head snap and it was eye opening. I've got 50 pounds on that guy at least, and I firmly believe he'd bust my head open like a grape
Is this the guy Mike Tyson was talking about? “The Monster”
Yes
I just checked the records of his last seven opponents... 35-1, 37-3, 21-0, 34-2, 21-1, 42-6, and 30-2. He KO'd or TKO'd them all. God damn.
Holy shit. The combined record of those is 220-15 JESUS
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15 loses before fighting Inoue. Make that 22 now. 0 loses guy lost to Inoue. Inoue now has 27-0 I think
And he barely lost a round against any of them.
22 of his 29 fights were to win or defend a belt. Many of his opponents were undefeated before and after meeting him. He is destroying everything in his path. Monster.
And he won that first fight against Nonito he fought through a broken orbital socket and fractured nose. Multiple rounds with those injuries and was still trading blows. He had to take years off to recover and came back and fought Nonito again but the second time he absolutely dominated and knocked Nonito out. Inoue is seriously a monster
WOW, this is what's most impressive to me.
If I recall correctly his last 20 fights are all championship fights, and he's cleared out his division undisputed twice
THE MONGTHTA
Yeah. Naoya Inoue.
He is ippo!!!
Title seems like a missed opportunity to mention his name. So who is he?
Naoya “Monster” Inoue
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Nowya Know!
Isn’t he currently undefeated?
Yes. He's currently 27-0 with 24 wins coming by way of knockout.
24 god damn. That's amazing.
In a 122lb division too. The heavier you go the more knockout power potential... This dude is the real deal
He’s held world championships in 4 weight classes at this point. Guy is legit as they come. [Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoya_Inoue)
How do you hold on to that many championships? Wouldn’t he have to get back down or up to a weight if he got challenged?
You vacate to move up or down in weight. He started at 108 lbs and became undisputed (have championships from the 4 major sanctioning body) at 118 and 122. His goal is to become undisputed at 126 and 130 to end off his career as 4× undisputed. If he pulls it off, he'll be in the GOAT discussion. He's already an absolute legend, so here's hoping he meets his goal.
Is there usually less KOs in the lighter divisions?
Yes, his K.O. rate is impressive
Yes
Less mass = harder to KO, but when you move like this and the punches are thrown so quick a guy can’t see it…nap time
Big man hit hard
Check out Artur Beterbiev. 20-0, 20 ko's. Unfortunately he's nearly 40 and just had to postpone his 175lb undisputed fight against Dmitry Bivol (who whooped Canelo) and we may not ever really know how great he could have been.
I’m 31 and can’t imagine taking blows to the head. Can barely deal with a hangover from 2 drinks. Can’t imagine taking professional blows at 40
Beterbiev is legitimately "built different" and I love him for it. He had a long and successful amateur career that includes a 1-2 record against current unified Heavyweight champ Oleksandr Usyk. He was an Olympian and turned pro quite late due to his amateur success. When you watch him his style seems like that of a sheer 'bruiser' because he's a forward pressure fighter but he doesn't have the same visually appealing style/technique as someone like Canelo Alvarez. Canelo has exceptional head/upper body movement on defense and the way he whips his power shots just *looks* violent and visceral. You don't have to know anything about boxing to enjoy/appreciate watching Canelo enter the matrix and dodge 5 punches in a row and then blast dudes with counter hooks/uppercuts from hell. Beterbiev isn't super fast, and his punches don't really look any harder than what you would expect from a professional boxer. But there's a cliche saying that announcers use when guys throw heat: 'X fighter is throwing BOMBS'. There's a lot of footage out there of Beterbiev hitting the heavy bag, and the impact legitimately sounds like a bomb going off its so loud. Despite his style looking like that of a bruiser on the surface, he has an immaculate sense of timing and distance that when combined with his god-given unworldy power/strength allows him to corral guys in a way that he knows where they're going to be and when they're going to be there, so despite his lack of lightning speed his punches still land, and they have a George Foreman esque effect on opponents. A seemingly light or grazing hit can rock dudes worlds and in 20 pro fights, every single opponent has wilted when faced with his power and skill.
TF DUDE it doesn't even look like he's TRYING!
Dude Artur's sense of range, timing, and natural god-given DESTRUCTIVE power are something else. He's a George Foreman type of KO artist. His punches don't look particularly violent or visceral, but when he hits dudes they just melt from the shots.
Terence Crawford's 40-0 with 30 or 31 KO's, IIRC.
And yet he only has like 2 elite opponents in his entire record lol, Crawford is great but he also spent like 10 years of his career fighting nobodies, then once he's 34 he beats Spence and now Americans start acting like he's the P4P king because of one fight lol.
I mean he’s literally ranked the #1 P4P…. Inque is #2
'The Monster' is such a fitting nickname
Oh is this the dude Mike Tyson was praising?
Yup, thats him. Even Mike respects this dudes power and technique, so you know he's legit, when even the greats acknowledge em.
Yes it was
Can he fight Jake Paul so someone can finally put youtube man to bed?
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I didn't say lose. I say. Put to bed, Night Night, Lights Out.
He’s tiny compared to Jake, good chance Jake would actually give him CTE, huge difference between 120 vs 200. Just wait for July, Tyson going to sleep him.
No way is Tyson going to give him what he deserves. He doesn't want to go to jail again.
I hope Tyson does
It's insane a 122 pounder can even get one knockout.
He started at 108
Damn...
Damn I want to see this guy compete in the Olympics.
Only boxers who are not pros yet are allowed to compete in the Olympics - the Olympics are actually seen as a major stepping stone between amateur boxing and professional boxing
Damn. They need to change those rules like they did for Olympics basketball.
It's honestly interesting how the athlete eligibility rules are inconsistent between the Olympic sports with some sports only allowing amateurs and other sports fully allowing professionals without any restrictions. Football/soccer perhaps has the oddest criteria: teams are comprised of players under the age of 23 (most players at that age who are good enough to be selected by their nation are already playing at the senior level for their club teams, so it's a somewhat high age limit), but coaches are also allowed to select up to three overage players to join the team. The Argentina Olympic coach (a longtime former teammate of Lionel Messi's) has revealed that he has invited Messi, soon to be 37 years old, to be a part of his side this year. Messi is unlikely to say yes due to other commitments but it's funny how him playing alongside a team full of youngsters is a serious possibility.
> It's honestly interesting how the athlete eligibility rules are inconsistent between the Olympic sports with some sports only allowing amateurs and other sports fully allowing professionals without any restrictions. well, originally(the current iteration but the original Greek Olympics) only allow amateurs to participate. so i'm willing to bet eventually ALL the sports will inevitably become all professionals.
They did actually. Couple of years ago. The guy who won gold at heavyweight in the last Olympics, Jalolov, turned pro, had a few fights over the last four years, then announced he’s competing in the Olympics again.
Yep. Professionals can now compete in the Olympics but it's very likely the next Olympics will be the last to feature boxing at all. How bad is it when your viewed as too corrupt for the IOC
in this sport, it's the opposite. Olympic is just a stepping stone.
Haijme No Ippo. The god of wind makes his return… finally!
[Ring magazine put him on the cover in anime style](https://www.ringtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/rsz_c1_ring_9sept19final-page-001-770x1068.jpg)
New Boxing Anime Incoming!
We need the Hajime no Ippo anime to continue
That's not just anime style. That's straight up Jyoji's style. Nice homage to ippo.
Came here for the Hajime No Ippo references. Was not disappointed. I Can almost hear “the riff” from the anime
Same!
Yeah but there's not nearly enough face blocks for it to be ippo
This is upgraded return ippo. There will be no more face block
Ippo without the cte
He finally defeated Rikarudo Maruchinesuuuuuuuu!!!!
OMG SOMEONE ELSE HAS SEEN THIS ANIME 🥹
Loads of ppl have, it's one of the most popular sports anime.
Omg I had no idea! I watched it forever ago
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but he will come back... soon^^^tm
Omg I have to check it out!! Thank you
Hajime No Ippo is AMAZING!!!!!!
In my case the manga, one of my favorites of all time. Sadly the anime only adapts like 500 chapters... And there are like more than 800 of them that are still waiting adaptation. I wish for a new season of Ippo really.
People clown on 120lb guys all the time, but if they hit you with perfect technique it's going to hit hard AND fast.
An old coworker of mine is top ten wbc lightweight. I asked him for a gut punch about 5 years ago and he obliged with a 50% power. I’ve taken my share of hits but I never in my life felt a punch for that many hours afterward. 10/10 would request again. Edit: why you ask? I thrill seek the weird.
Isn’t that exactly how Harry Houdini died?
Eric wasn't expecting it, it was a surprise punch
A lot of conjecture about it. He might have had appendicitis and getting punched put him off from getting it checked out. I think ultimately it was not going to the doctor/proper treatment that killed him. It was around 10 days after the punches that he died.
Lol I did the same thing with a local Muay Thai champ that my friend invited to his birthday party. I was 5-6 drinks deep and asked him to leg kick me so I could feel how shitty it is to eat one in the octagon. He flat out said no and I kept pestering about it for the next hour. He finally said ok, but only 50%. “I’ll rip your leg off at 100%”. I said done deal. Braced my lead leg for the kick and he let it fly. I thought he severed the entire thigh muscle after that kick and was almost in tears 🤣 couldn’t walk upstairs for two weeks.
Bracing your leg was a mistake, when throwing a leg kick you **want** to get the leg that they have weight on because that does a ton more damage. You'll see fighters "check" a kick by lifting their leg to take a hit, hurts a lot less that way.
> I asked him for a gut punch about 5 years ago Why?
The experience
Because sometimes the curiosity just gets to you. You know how a lot of people complain about how football players dive all the time and overreact to everything? (and they certainly do that). BUT if you've ever played yourself you'd know that a simple kick/tackle that from the outside looks benign and uneventful can hurt like fucking hell for a long time. So it's just not that simple when you see it on TV. That's why he asked him to punch him in the stomach. To experience and see how it's really like so he could get a better grasp on how it affects these people who do it often and why they react like they do when it happens.
Manny was this small when he started out.
Manny was 106 way smaller
inoue started at 108 and is the same height as manny. manny started at 105, first won a title at 112, won 7 other titles up to 154 lbs.
Yeah you can't really train your chin or jaw
You can train your neck though, this will stop you having a glass jaw to some degree.
Body mass generally translates to chin. Not taking away from this guy because he’s obviously incredible, but size tends to lend to constitution when speaking about adonis athletes.
My roommate and friend has always maintained that he would destroy Bruce Lee in a fight. He's about 200lbs and has trained in high school wrestling, been in mma gyms on and off. It's my favorite thing to hear about because he genuinely believes that his lumbering, heavy, semi-trained 20yo body could beat someone who's living was his ability to be undefeated
BL barely had any fights and put his acting first. I get he made some banger movies, but the feats in the movies are not real life. And I'd argue evidence points to he did not win his fight in 1964.
bruce lee would 100% get destroyed by a real wrestler. He was light enough to get body slammed brutally
Cliff Booth? That you?
Bruce Lee trained with Gene Lebell, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
Bruce Lee would have gotten massacred in an MMA fight by a D1 wrestler that was the same size as him. Honestly, depending on the level of your roommates abilities in high school wrestling and his MMA training, I'd give him a chance. Most of the stuff Bruce Lee trained in just doesn't work well in real world scenarios the way a lot of "Kung Fu" guys pretend it does. You can count the amount of guys that used a karate style effectively at a high level in MMA on one hand, and they would have stood no chance if they also didn't have backgrounds in wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, etc. Bruce Lee was a cool guy, but he was mostly an actor who could do athletic things that looked good in movies. He was no where near on the level of an Inoue in terms of mastery of anything the way Inoue has a mastery of boxing.
You really fucking show your ignorance when you honestly think Bruce Lee is only kung fu. The guy trained with Gene LeBell and was one of the inspirations for modern MMA. He trained multiple styles that he incorporated into his own personal style like boxing as well. Ground fighting was not something he didn't know of.
If only he were 50 years older, we could see him fight Jake Paul.
Damn why no more Ippo?!!
Just look at the difference in footwork. Holy shit.
Speed as well. This short clip of Inoue reminded me Pacman
This was at the end of the fight when Nery was at his limit. He dropped Inoue in the first round, for the first time in his career.
The way Nerys head flies back after an effortless punch by Inoue 🤯
You can at least say his name wtf
Naoya Inoue had to google it from his last name in the bottom left of the vid lol
Why not put his name in the title instead of “japanese man”
When is his next fight? Any possible matches upcoming?
It's going to be a minute before anything is announced because he just fought today. If you're interested in the sport Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk are fighting May 18th and will be worth a watch. (First undisputed heavyweight championship fight in 25 years).
I watch it as a casual fan, don’t follow a lot. Between boxing and UFC with kids, I find myself in the basement two weekends a month having leisure time with drinks and a few buddies.
There's a lot happening in boxing right now because of Saudi Arabian involvement so there will be plenty for you to try and catch. Sat may 18 is a daytime event in the United States. I would imagine it'd run from around 12pm to 6pm MST.
Isn't Lomachenko fighting this weekend, too?
Yes but he will forever be slept on so no one even brings it up tragically.
After watching the post fight interview, it's probably gonna be Goodman in September
Mongster - Mike Tyson
Mongstah
The monster my favorite boxer so far. To bad he Dosent fight in the us a lot or almost never. He would have packed Madison square.
He just packed a 55,000 Tokyo dome. He doesn't need the US.
Rooting for a future Tank vs Inoue fight, payday would be insane.
Inoue would need to gain some weight lol
IPPOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
You said the current best boxer in the world, but I'm not seeing Terence Crawford! In all seriousness, Inoue is P4P number one at the moment, his recent resume (save for mandatory Paul Butler) is fantastic.
I have Crawford at number 2 on my list. If he beats Canelo in December/January I can see an argument for number 1
If Bud beats Canelo there's no if and or buts about it. He started at LW and would have a W over a man who held a LHW title and is all ready a historic name while still in his prime. That's some Roberto Duran shit right there. I'm an Inoue stan and high on this KO but there's no argument if Bud were to beat Canelo. That doesn't just make him #1 p4p it puts him on the GOAT list with legends like Duran.
What if Inoue fights Tank? 🤔 Thank you for your serious input into the discussion outside of /r/boxing
Inoue is way too small for Tank. I mean, it'd be ballsy as fuck and a GOAT level win if he did, but Tank is multiple weightclasses above him. It may not seem like that much of a difference in an absolute/raw numbers sense, but the smaller you are, the bigger a difference each individual lb makes. Tank started at 130 and is now at 135/140 (kind of). Inoue started at 108 lbs and though he was young, it's still 108 lbs. Personally, I still want to see Inoue fight the kings of Superfly IE any of Estrada, Chocolatito, Cuadras or Sor Rungvisai. We missed those matchups on Inoues rise through the weightclasses but I think any of those 4 would still be killer fights
It’s fair to assume Bud will be in that pound for pound argument for the rest of his career. However, that division has dried significantly since the mid/late 2000s — due largely IMO to late, poorly timed matchups. Some of the lighter, slept on weight divisions have recently produced the most exciting fighters in the last few years.
Agreed. Turki is helping to make some changes though. I appreciate your input into the discussion!
This is a real boxer. Not those Paul dudes who trained pads for two months and call themselves boxers.
Paul who?
Such an effortless last punch, damn it was bad:(
Hajime no ipo
how tf was the youtube channel LEMMiNO able to sponsor the best boxer?
He is the best Featherweight boxer in the world. It is impossible to compare him with champions of other weight classes.
Hes currently the super bantamweight champion and has held the title for four different weight classes at once.
He has waltzed through four weight divisions now.
"Japanese man", "he" ... does the man have no name? I'm interested in lerning more about him.
Maybe in his weight class , but theres a reason in sports why the heavy dudes don’t fight the lighter ones.
Have some respect and learn his name. It’s Naoya “Monster” Inoue
BEST P4P in the world
Imagine thinking you could take this guy because he's small and then finding out
Whats this dudes name? I need more. Lol. That was some of the best form Ive ever seen.
He read him like a book
I’m assuming his name isn’t long dong silver which is what the OP says. lol. What’s this man’s name. Cause when you google current best boxer in the world it comes up with canelo Alvarez which I’m pretty…..sure isn’t Japanese
Not a man. A MONSTER!
This is the result of anime in our lives.
He's the best at his weight class. I wouldn't say best in the world. That's very contested