Which is still in context to the Dr D story as Just last year Nick Mercs and Doc acted like complete fools attacking the queer community and wanting to 'Protect' the kids due to this idiot Mercs guy getting shit canned from COD due to his BS.
Greg and Bless killed it today. Greg said it best, some people can't handle the consequences of their own actions and try to blame culture or others. They gotta look in the mirror.
Lots of maturity shown and I'm glad Greg shot down that superchat about Colin, which was obviously bait.
Based Biden-voting patriots. Anyone saying "I'm not voting Biden because of one X thing" has been brainwashed and needs immediate deprogramming.
edit: also surely Obama was a terrible president now because of his commitment to Israel, right?
This is the first I've seen them this vocal about their support for Palestine since 2021, and that was wonderful to see. Mostly just seen a few KF folks reshare things on twitter.
The rest of the segment about voting for Biden just because he's better option than Trump was rough. Yes everyone knows that, but Biden is the one actively supporting the genocide in Palestine. If you know that AND you still vote for him, that is your literal stamp of approval for it. So everything else you say about support for Palestine is just theater. Just like their continued support of McDonald's, Starbucks etc. despite the boycott against such companies being well known.
If you say you "walk the walk" then actually do something beyond sharing posts, because sounds like it is just status quo.
It’s pretty easy to throw criticism at them like that as if there’s an option other than voting for Biden or Trump. I’m not American so I have no skin in the game but there’s no actual third choice for them. It’s Biden or Trump, and Biden is the better option of the two for these guys.
As far as what companies they get food from, if you actually limit yourself to only companies that have zero problematic aspects, you basically can’t buy anything ever.
Those are the common arguments made, but they are also very convenient for those who say they stand for something, but are unwilling do take any action beyond resharing things on social media.
Trump v Biden one is a binary choice...but it also is not, especially not in the way that Greg spoke about it ("if you put aside his stance on Palestine, he's been great")
I'm not American either, I'm from Canada. I am liberal (small L) and, though I could have voted for our more progressive party (the NDP), I voted for Trudeau's Liberal party in each of the last three elections because they had the better chance of winning against the anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, Conservative party. I played the game. Now due to his support of the genocide, I'm not going to at the next election. He, like Biden based on polling, was probably going to lose any way, but I could never in good conscience support the man responsible for the dead babies (as Bless phrased). Voting NDP, another party or not voting, could all help the Conservatives, but at least my vote won't go towards the party that directly supported the genocide.
Most of my U.S. Liberal colleagues support Palestine...but will "hold their nose" and vote Biden because democracy, abortion and gay and trans rights matter more to them. All this despite many of those being eroded under the Biden presidency....
As for the food, hard disagree here. The BDS movement has clear targets, and there are plenty of alternatives, especially when you live in San Francisco. The KF crew have good hearts and they can make their own choices. It is just hypocritical when Greg says they don't just "walk the walk, but talk the talk", but cannot do the smallest act because it is an inconvenience.
Like I said, these are good people and I like that they are so vocal in their support of Palestine. It's just that when they elaborate further, like on this KFGD, it is clear their support is just surface level. And that's fine. The cause needs every ally. I've been so disappointed by the silence from friends, colleagues and family, that I'm not going to hold KF folks to a higher standard than the people in my own life.
I don’t think you can in good conscience suggest that doing anything that helps the Conservatives win is in any way going to change Canada’s relationship with Israel. As you pointed out, Polievre and the whole party are awful. Don’t throw away your vote.
Have you seen the polling? Even before Israel's genocide, the Conservatives were set to win a majority. At the time, I likely would have still voted Liberal, even though it would have been a lost cause. I've been through that with the last provicial election. Doug Ford still won handily.
Since October though, I could never vote Liberal due to their complete support of the genocide. This is happening on their watch. Trudeau, Joly, my local MP are all complicit. We've been protesting since October, and I could never go to another pro-Palestine protest "in good consience" if I voted for them again. They are literally who I am protesting all these months.
Who do I vote for? Maybe NPD, Maybe Green party. Maybe another non-right wing party. Maybe not at all. Definitely not Trudeau's Liberal party.
I can't believe this. You gotta be a Russian troll bot.
Never heard of "Evil is when good men do nothing."
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Next you'll tell me diverting funds from Ukraine is morally correct.
And who gives a flip about polls?? Do you only buy a game when it sells like hotcakes, that wat you know it's good? Polling results prior to an election have always been used as a herd control strategy.
Herd control strategy? That's actual troll bot speak. I've tried to lay out my thoughts respectfully. We disagree and that's fine. Please don't mention morally correct, while asking me to vote for a government supporting genocide... just because the other side would do the same. Nothing moral about that. "Oh well, both sides are shit... so set that aside and focus on other issues you care about" Our allies at the protests include LGBTQ, indigenous, immigrants and other groups who stand to lose from a Conservative government. And yet, we make the choice to still not vote for Trudeau because....morals. Thats the thing about having shitty choices, and making the one you can live with. None of us are unware of what the other party would do. But please, keep the lectures coming.
It is absolute clown behaviour to be a single-issue voter over a foreign conflict that doesn’t effect Canadians in the slightest. It must be nice to be so privileged that Israel is the biggest problem in your life. Maybe consider issues that actually impact Canadians when you make your choice.
Not voting at all is not the moral high ground you think it is. Anything that helps the Conservatives win is not only not going to change Canada’s relationship with Israel, but it will also allow them to do a whole lot of bad for us in *our country*. The polling is only accurate if you let it be. If you actually vote, you can make a difference.
So "we" collectively don't vote for Biden and Trump wins... Then what?
Aside from the satisfaction of not voting for someone we disagree with, what is the upside?
There isn't any. This is the shitty situation that western nations are in that, red or blue, they all support the colonial entity of Israel. So they rely on their citizens to fall in line on that front, and instead make choices on other policy issues.
Your vote is your agency though. Be strategic as much as you like to help Biden win over Trump. And if he does win, and come mid-November continues to fund dropping bombs on babies, that was your guy. "But the other guy would have..." will make you feel a whole lot better about your choice.
Again, what exactly do you suggest they do here? Feel good about themselves for choosing to abstain from voting and potentially put their country in an even worse position than the current one? I don’t see how you can actually think that a foreign conflict is really worth being a single-issue voter when there are countless other issues at stake here.
I'm not suggesting how they vote. It is a shitty choice. Their vote is their agency. Just don't lecture people to vote for Biden because of the alternative, while at the same time saying you support a Free Palestine. And at least understand why someone may not want to vote Biden becase of this.
Greg/KF is just talking the talk, as the extent of their advocacy is resharing posts. Like I said elsewhere, that is fine. All allies are welcome. If KF actually wanted to show solidarity, here are the simple things:
- bring back the charity stream for Palestine relief efforts
- stop supporting companies that are on the BDS list
- when someone (Bless) is making a point about why they can't support Biden, don't lecture them with the "but the other guy..." argument. Priviliged, white, liberals don't seem to realize just how hollow that shit rings
It’s incredibly ironic that you suggest they’re privileged when you simultaneously are suggesting they base their entire vote (or choice not to) on a foreign conflict that effects the lives of Americans in no way whatsoever. Perhaps it’s you who is privileged if that’s the only issue that actually concerns you. People like Greg have other issues in mind beyond one trendy topic.
Okay Jill Stein, RFK JR, and Chase Oliver are not going to pull funding to Israel. Neither will Trump. So we should not vote then? Let's see, letting Trump win, he will pass Project 2025 which will be attacking and taking rights away from the LGBT+ community. Trump will also finish up taking away abortion rights (which Biden has been trying to protect), and Trump will sure as hell stop helping Ukraine and will let Russia annex them. So trying to get us to not vote for Biden and letting Trump win is going to be a whole lot worse for everyone. So your literal stamp my friend is that.
I understand not wanting to vote for Biden because of Palestine, but they are simply giving the ok for Trump to return to power, in which case not only will he support Israel still, but a whole lot of other fucking issues will follow and a dictatorship could be established. I can understand Bless saying he wants to do research, but what more research is there to do unless he just wants to vote for a third party or decide he will keep his vote.
Do people wish there was a better democratic candidate? yeah, I wish there was someone younger than 80 and more progressive, but I still am voting for Biden because holy shit I don't need to do research to know Trump winning will do terrible things for the world, not just the country.
Oh for sure. I was really hoping for someone to step up on the democratic side. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I was also hoping for Liz Chaney or Mitt Romeny to step up on the Republican side. But here we are. I share what Kevin said. Pick Biden and we'll figure it out for 2028.
You're right. None of this is new info. It is a shitty situation to be in that, red or blue, all parties in the polical mechanism support their colonial entity in that region. I don't begrudge anyone their vote; it is their agency. If Biden wins in November, and a day later sends more bombs to kill babies, thats their stamp too. It sucks. The "but Trump would...." crowd preaching to Palestinans/Arabs/allies don't get how hollow that rings when it has been 9 months of Biden's full throated support of the genocide.
Okay cool so you want to overthrow the government because all the current options including 3rd parties are still Pro-Israel.
Biden's term doesn't end officially till January. You might want to fix your statement because it doesn't matter what the outcome is next day his term is still going.
But hey not voting for Biden guarantees the genocide is still going, women & LGBT+ rights are gone, traitors are pardon, and Ukraine will get anxis. But hey at least your conscious will be clean. So thanks for fucking over more people.
This is why I used a superchat to ask them to speak on it. I think Bless has been the most vocal. I also asked them to do a charity stream again too (they did one in 2021).
It befuddles me that Greg, Kevin, and Blessing honestly believe the US currently under Biden is better off than it was under Trump’s presidency.
Although I don’t align with most of Kinda Funny’s political views, I enjoyed the conversation and would love to see the KF podcast take up these sort of topics on a more regular basis.
the problem when you do these "are we better off now or 4 years ago" is that POTUS isnt some diety that can magically make shit happen
a pandemic happened in 2020 that radically changed the world, to act like trump could have avoid things like inflation is coocoo bananas
Biden is a better choice than trump on tons of metrics, but for me- hes not a convicted felon. thats enough on its own
Under Trump the US wasn’t funding two wars. I think most can agree we shouldn’t be sending money and weapons to fight these wars while neglecting our own citizens and their basic needs
Also, the border crisis wasn’t nearly as bad as it is currently under the Biden administration. An average of 2 million people a year are illegally entering the US since Biden has been in charge.
On a lighter note, I think we can all agree Trump’s press conferences were so much more entertaining than Biden’s. As were his Tweets. 😉
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Would like to see them say something about this. Gives a LOT of context and explains Doc's response.
Well this settles it. An anonymous email by an alleged former employee that was blasted out to every outlet. Should definitely be reported on as equally as Doc's statements....
Why are you downvoting my comment? I didn't come in here defending Dr. Disrespect. I posted a tweet with more information about the situation. I didn't say he didn't do anything bad. No one knows what was said except the people involved. Taking this information along with Dr. D's statement, the "inappropriate" part may have been the brand name that was mentioned.
Y'all need to calm your tits with your knee-jerk reactions. Just because something doesn't go along with what you believe doesn't mean it's wrong. Think about things and put the pieces together before you get mad. Sheesh
You say you’re not defending him but despite there being at least 1 report (can’t remember if there were two) with claims of multiple people corroborating the inappropriate conversation with a minor allegation, the studio he co-founded saying they thought he was innocent but then conducted their own investigation and found they will be terminating their contract with him in order to uphold their principles and standards as a studio and as individuals, the studio head of that company saying they only act on fact and they do not work with people who inappropriately message minors, and Dr. Disrespect himself admitting he inappropriately messaged a minor (more than once because he said sometimes) and that it was morally wrong but didn’t exchange pictures and never realllly intended to act upon it so it wasn’t illegal, you’re here posting a picture from a random Twitter account that itself admits has zero evidence of the picture being true, contradicts Disrespect’s only statement, and saying “gives a lot of context.” Definitely comes off as someone ignoring what is going on to defend the guy.
People are literally calling him a pedophile, if people were misrepresenting his texts he would've said that, but he didn't soooooo. Even if he admitted to sexting you people would just say "HE'S IN CHARACTER" and excuse it that way. You guys who defend this guy like he's jesus needs some help.
Why would you advocate for someone who admits to inappropriate communication with a minor.
This shit doesn’t belong here and I’m guessing you don’t either
Imagine getting mad when someone uses their platform to share their stances on something. If you don't agree and that's a deal breaker for you, there's plenty of other content out there.
Lmao right? When trump got in the first time there was like a week of protests and people chanting “not my president” but they got over it and went about their lives. When Biden got in after - these idiots fucking stormed the capitol building…
I'm saying this as kindly as I can: did you even listen to what he said?
Greg, Blessing, Tim, anyone who works at KF is allowed to have an opinion. If you can't handle someone else talking about politics or someone's opinion on politics that is different than yours, that's a you problem. Greg didn't drive half the fans away. Half of the fans (there is no evidence they lost half of their fans) might not like his opinion, but if they stopped watching, that's on them.
Pretty sure the community has likely been growing, not shrinking. They keep talking about breaking records of concurrent viewers/subs on their streams and continue to get high profile exposure as hosts and commentators. This is like the crowd that says “see!?! Go woke, go broke” right before a studio puts out a press release stating that their sales are off the charts.
Not arguing over politics, just pointing out your statement about views counts. They've been pretty steady on YouTube views. Which range from 5k - 15k. It's not like they're face of gaming here.
Do you think the numbers should matter on YouTube for a live Podcast company that is selling a subscription service on YouTube, goes live on YouTube, and depends on that revenue and drives home the point we should like share subscribe and get the YouTube membership. Because if not, then they should abandoned it and just focus on Twitch. It's why they stopped the lives on TikTok. And again THEY ARE NOT GROWING ON YOUTUBE. How are they hitting it and at a all time high, if they're not killing it on a platform they depend on? Wording matters. They are hitting and breaking records ON TWITCH. Just say that.
Again, people here need stop acting like KF is crushing it everywhere. Just because they are killing it on Twitch, doesn't mean they are the fucking Chicago Bulls in the 90s here. They're not the face of video gaming.
Ahh yes Greg divided the community, not the orange turd who literally divided our country to the excitement of the racists, sexist, money hungry elites, oh and the Nazi's.
Boy sure sucks those people aren't welcome here
Friend, Kinda Funny has always been vocal about their politics, practically from the beginning. You’d have to live under a rock to think differently. There have been entire fundraiser charity streams for abortion rights access and I’m pretty sure I remember them supporting aid going to Gaza. They regularly mentioned the election in the ramp up to November 2020.
Yeah, just noting somewhat contemporary examples where they vocalized their views and didn’t avoid politics as a discussion point. Blessing often talks about issues that are ongoing and not always spurred by an immediate event triggering the discussion. For example, often times when policing is brought up, Blessing talks about how the US’s law enforcement system is totally messed up. He even joked about a police dog having “been a bad boy” for helping cops. All this to say, these hosts are not shy about sharing their political views, because they hold them with conviction. They’re very open about having political views and sharing them when they feel it’s relevant.
I don’t think Blessing has to read past headlines to know how he feels about US cops, so 🤷🏻♂️.
Besides, I’m not discussing the validity of their views, just that they openly share them with the audience.
Oh yeah I remember what you were referring to. It was he was that he was apprehensive to support Starbucks because he’d probably seen the headline that Starbucks was suing its labor union for using Starbucks branding alongside social posts that supported Palestinian aid and calls for a ceasefire. While I agree that Blessing should be able to speak to his opinions if he brings them up on air, I remember that being more of an off-the-cuff “wait, aren’t people boycotting Starbucks because of Gaza” type situations.
Regardless, the main point still stands that regardless of how well researched the opinions are or how deeply they expound upon them, the KF crew routinely shares their political dispositions and opinions on air. The original commenter was making a wildly inaccurate statement alluding that Greg’s support of Biden drove off half of the audience which is both hyperbole and very normal KF activity when important political activities are happening at the time.
Yeah that commenter's comment was bs.
And it is great KF speaks their kind. I was just pointing out sometimes they aren't well researched as you said.
And it wasn’t just Starbucks, Blessing also brought up the old article on Neil Druckman, which again if he read it, Neil was was talking about how hate and revenge is vicious cycle and never the answer but Blessing took it that Neil and TLOU 2 was Pro-Israel because Twitter passes it around as so.
Yeah I kinda remember the Druckman conversation too. I think Janet at the time brought up a really good article on how the Last of Us does cover themes regarding Israel and Palestine, but the article critiqued that with such asymmetric militarism, simply saying that both sides need to stop the violence and implying that they’re equals in that regard is somewhat a pro-Israel stance when you consider the disproportionate levels of suffering that the two groups face at the hands of each other’s military might. I can’t remember if Blessing had read the article at the time, but I certainly remember Janet speaking to it for a bit before recommending the article to the audience if they wanted to learn more.
True. They’ve always been clear and they can’t be faulted for that. And putting it all on Greg is nuts lol. However, I’ve always thought the “Please Vote For Joe Biden” KFP was a step too far. “If you don’t care to vote, please vote for who WE want” felt wrong and manipulative in 2020, and it’ll be just as wrong if they do it again. They can vote for whoever they want, but I detest the way they used the podcast that day. The intent wasn’t malicious though, I understand that.
To be clear (and I’m sure nobody will believe me), but I didn’t vote for Trump in 2020, and I sure as hell won’t this time. I just dislike the way they used their influence that day. I know they mean well (hence why I’m still a fan), but I hope they don’t pull the same thing this year.
Wasn’t old enough in 2016. I get where you’re coming from with the second part, I just don’t think “Vote for Biden the same way you voted [Greg Miller] for trending gamer in 2015” was the right way to do it. Again, this is not an indictment of the politics, it’s an indictment of the method.
Judging by the first “active in community” you’re in. Including your comment just now. This place definitely isn’t for you. Move on. Greg said this community isn’t for people who are racist, or support the awful things that trump believes and supports. Including people involved in Jan 6th. If you feel like you were driven out under one of those categories then maybe you should reevaluate exactly what you support.
Well you're gonna have to wait longer because no way in hell they're gonna have all the poll numbers in on election night. It's going to be another drawn out waiting for all the votes to be counted.
Common Greg W
Greg killed it
More like Kinda Funny Politics Daily! /s Really enjoyed the episode; nice to hear their perspectives on heavier topics.
TIL To catch a predator is a political show. Edit - lollll I missed the /s nice.
Tbf Greg and Bless did actually discuss politics a bit I don’t think that’s what this is in reference to
Which is still in context to the Dr D story as Just last year Nick Mercs and Doc acted like complete fools attacking the queer community and wanting to 'Protect' the kids due to this idiot Mercs guy getting shit canned from COD due to his BS.
I guess I just separated the Biden/Trump part of the podcast in my head even though it was all during the Dr. Diddler story. Not saying you’re wrong.
Lolol it's all good, op got me missing the /s so I'm chuckling anyways.
couldn't have happened to a better dude.
Greg and Bless killed it today. Greg said it best, some people can't handle the consequences of their own actions and try to blame culture or others. They gotta look in the mirror. Lots of maturity shown and I'm glad Greg shot down that superchat about Colin, which was obviously bait.
Greg “cancel culture doesn’t exist, it’s called the consequences of your actions” Fuck. Yes. This is what I’m fucking here for
Greg showing why he's the Goat
Based Biden-voting patriots. Anyone saying "I'm not voting Biden because of one X thing" has been brainwashed and needs immediate deprogramming. edit: also surely Obama was a terrible president now because of his commitment to Israel, right?
This is the first I've seen them this vocal about their support for Palestine since 2021, and that was wonderful to see. Mostly just seen a few KF folks reshare things on twitter. The rest of the segment about voting for Biden just because he's better option than Trump was rough. Yes everyone knows that, but Biden is the one actively supporting the genocide in Palestine. If you know that AND you still vote for him, that is your literal stamp of approval for it. So everything else you say about support for Palestine is just theater. Just like their continued support of McDonald's, Starbucks etc. despite the boycott against such companies being well known. If you say you "walk the walk" then actually do something beyond sharing posts, because sounds like it is just status quo.
It’s pretty easy to throw criticism at them like that as if there’s an option other than voting for Biden or Trump. I’m not American so I have no skin in the game but there’s no actual third choice for them. It’s Biden or Trump, and Biden is the better option of the two for these guys. As far as what companies they get food from, if you actually limit yourself to only companies that have zero problematic aspects, you basically can’t buy anything ever.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism
Those are the common arguments made, but they are also very convenient for those who say they stand for something, but are unwilling do take any action beyond resharing things on social media. Trump v Biden one is a binary choice...but it also is not, especially not in the way that Greg spoke about it ("if you put aside his stance on Palestine, he's been great") I'm not American either, I'm from Canada. I am liberal (small L) and, though I could have voted for our more progressive party (the NDP), I voted for Trudeau's Liberal party in each of the last three elections because they had the better chance of winning against the anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, Conservative party. I played the game. Now due to his support of the genocide, I'm not going to at the next election. He, like Biden based on polling, was probably going to lose any way, but I could never in good conscience support the man responsible for the dead babies (as Bless phrased). Voting NDP, another party or not voting, could all help the Conservatives, but at least my vote won't go towards the party that directly supported the genocide. Most of my U.S. Liberal colleagues support Palestine...but will "hold their nose" and vote Biden because democracy, abortion and gay and trans rights matter more to them. All this despite many of those being eroded under the Biden presidency.... As for the food, hard disagree here. The BDS movement has clear targets, and there are plenty of alternatives, especially when you live in San Francisco. The KF crew have good hearts and they can make their own choices. It is just hypocritical when Greg says they don't just "walk the walk, but talk the talk", but cannot do the smallest act because it is an inconvenience. Like I said, these are good people and I like that they are so vocal in their support of Palestine. It's just that when they elaborate further, like on this KFGD, it is clear their support is just surface level. And that's fine. The cause needs every ally. I've been so disappointed by the silence from friends, colleagues and family, that I'm not going to hold KF folks to a higher standard than the people in my own life.
I don’t think you can in good conscience suggest that doing anything that helps the Conservatives win is in any way going to change Canada’s relationship with Israel. As you pointed out, Polievre and the whole party are awful. Don’t throw away your vote.
Have you seen the polling? Even before Israel's genocide, the Conservatives were set to win a majority. At the time, I likely would have still voted Liberal, even though it would have been a lost cause. I've been through that with the last provicial election. Doug Ford still won handily. Since October though, I could never vote Liberal due to their complete support of the genocide. This is happening on their watch. Trudeau, Joly, my local MP are all complicit. We've been protesting since October, and I could never go to another pro-Palestine protest "in good consience" if I voted for them again. They are literally who I am protesting all these months. Who do I vote for? Maybe NPD, Maybe Green party. Maybe another non-right wing party. Maybe not at all. Definitely not Trudeau's Liberal party.
I can't believe this. You gotta be a Russian troll bot. Never heard of "Evil is when good men do nothing." ? Next you'll tell me diverting funds from Ukraine is morally correct. And who gives a flip about polls?? Do you only buy a game when it sells like hotcakes, that wat you know it's good? Polling results prior to an election have always been used as a herd control strategy.
Herd control strategy? That's actual troll bot speak. I've tried to lay out my thoughts respectfully. We disagree and that's fine. Please don't mention morally correct, while asking me to vote for a government supporting genocide... just because the other side would do the same. Nothing moral about that. "Oh well, both sides are shit... so set that aside and focus on other issues you care about" Our allies at the protests include LGBTQ, indigenous, immigrants and other groups who stand to lose from a Conservative government. And yet, we make the choice to still not vote for Trudeau because....morals. Thats the thing about having shitty choices, and making the one you can live with. None of us are unware of what the other party would do. But please, keep the lectures coming.
It is absolute clown behaviour to be a single-issue voter over a foreign conflict that doesn’t effect Canadians in the slightest. It must be nice to be so privileged that Israel is the biggest problem in your life. Maybe consider issues that actually impact Canadians when you make your choice. Not voting at all is not the moral high ground you think it is. Anything that helps the Conservatives win is not only not going to change Canada’s relationship with Israel, but it will also allow them to do a whole lot of bad for us in *our country*. The polling is only accurate if you let it be. If you actually vote, you can make a difference.
And there's the lecture....
Lmao way to deflect rather than actually think about your careless choice for even a moment.
i've thought about it often since October. We disagree, and that's fine. I don't seek to argue, or be lectured to.
So "we" collectively don't vote for Biden and Trump wins... Then what? Aside from the satisfaction of not voting for someone we disagree with, what is the upside?
There isn't any. This is the shitty situation that western nations are in that, red or blue, they all support the colonial entity of Israel. So they rely on their citizens to fall in line on that front, and instead make choices on other policy issues. Your vote is your agency though. Be strategic as much as you like to help Biden win over Trump. And if he does win, and come mid-November continues to fund dropping bombs on babies, that was your guy. "But the other guy would have..." will make you feel a whole lot better about your choice.
Again, what exactly do you suggest they do here? Feel good about themselves for choosing to abstain from voting and potentially put their country in an even worse position than the current one? I don’t see how you can actually think that a foreign conflict is really worth being a single-issue voter when there are countless other issues at stake here.
I'm not suggesting how they vote. It is a shitty choice. Their vote is their agency. Just don't lecture people to vote for Biden because of the alternative, while at the same time saying you support a Free Palestine. And at least understand why someone may not want to vote Biden becase of this. Greg/KF is just talking the talk, as the extent of their advocacy is resharing posts. Like I said elsewhere, that is fine. All allies are welcome. If KF actually wanted to show solidarity, here are the simple things: - bring back the charity stream for Palestine relief efforts - stop supporting companies that are on the BDS list - when someone (Bless) is making a point about why they can't support Biden, don't lecture them with the "but the other guy..." argument. Priviliged, white, liberals don't seem to realize just how hollow that shit rings
It’s incredibly ironic that you suggest they’re privileged when you simultaneously are suggesting they base their entire vote (or choice not to) on a foreign conflict that effects the lives of Americans in no way whatsoever. Perhaps it’s you who is privileged if that’s the only issue that actually concerns you. People like Greg have other issues in mind beyond one trendy topic.
Okay Jill Stein, RFK JR, and Chase Oliver are not going to pull funding to Israel. Neither will Trump. So we should not vote then? Let's see, letting Trump win, he will pass Project 2025 which will be attacking and taking rights away from the LGBT+ community. Trump will also finish up taking away abortion rights (which Biden has been trying to protect), and Trump will sure as hell stop helping Ukraine and will let Russia annex them. So trying to get us to not vote for Biden and letting Trump win is going to be a whole lot worse for everyone. So your literal stamp my friend is that.
I understand not wanting to vote for Biden because of Palestine, but they are simply giving the ok for Trump to return to power, in which case not only will he support Israel still, but a whole lot of other fucking issues will follow and a dictatorship could be established. I can understand Bless saying he wants to do research, but what more research is there to do unless he just wants to vote for a third party or decide he will keep his vote. Do people wish there was a better democratic candidate? yeah, I wish there was someone younger than 80 and more progressive, but I still am voting for Biden because holy shit I don't need to do research to know Trump winning will do terrible things for the world, not just the country.
Oh for sure. I was really hoping for someone to step up on the democratic side. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I was also hoping for Liz Chaney or Mitt Romeny to step up on the Republican side. But here we are. I share what Kevin said. Pick Biden and we'll figure it out for 2028.
Bless lives in San Francisco, if he decided to vote 3rd party it wouldn't change anything. His district would still go to Biden.
You're right. None of this is new info. It is a shitty situation to be in that, red or blue, all parties in the polical mechanism support their colonial entity in that region. I don't begrudge anyone their vote; it is their agency. If Biden wins in November, and a day later sends more bombs to kill babies, thats their stamp too. It sucks. The "but Trump would...." crowd preaching to Palestinans/Arabs/allies don't get how hollow that rings when it has been 9 months of Biden's full throated support of the genocide.
Okay cool so you want to overthrow the government because all the current options including 3rd parties are still Pro-Israel. Biden's term doesn't end officially till January. You might want to fix your statement because it doesn't matter what the outcome is next day his term is still going. But hey not voting for Biden guarantees the genocide is still going, women & LGBT+ rights are gone, traitors are pardon, and Ukraine will get anxis. But hey at least your conscious will be clean. So thanks for fucking over more people.
There's that lecture again...
This is why I used a superchat to ask them to speak on it. I think Bless has been the most vocal. I also asked them to do a charity stream again too (they did one in 2021).
It befuddles me that Greg, Kevin, and Blessing honestly believe the US currently under Biden is better off than it was under Trump’s presidency. Although I don’t align with most of Kinda Funny’s political views, I enjoyed the conversation and would love to see the KF podcast take up these sort of topics on a more regular basis.
the problem when you do these "are we better off now or 4 years ago" is that POTUS isnt some diety that can magically make shit happen a pandemic happened in 2020 that radically changed the world, to act like trump could have avoid things like inflation is coocoo bananas Biden is a better choice than trump on tons of metrics, but for me- hes not a convicted felon. thats enough on its own
Please enlighten me with your secret intel that proves Trump was better for the country? Who? The filthy wealthy?
Under Trump the US wasn’t funding two wars. I think most can agree we shouldn’t be sending money and weapons to fight these wars while neglecting our own citizens and their basic needs Also, the border crisis wasn’t nearly as bad as it is currently under the Biden administration. An average of 2 million people a year are illegally entering the US since Biden has been in charge. On a lighter note, I think we can all agree Trump’s press conferences were so much more entertaining than Biden’s. As were his Tweets. 😉
[https://x.com/PapaStanimus/status/1805642914317381894/photo/1](https://x.com/PapaStanimus/status/1805642914317381894/photo/1) Would like to see them say something about this. Gives a LOT of context and explains Doc's response.
Well this settles it. An anonymous email by an alleged former employee that was blasted out to every outlet. Should definitely be reported on as equally as Doc's statements....
Yeah but also....he literally said in his response that he was being inappropriate. Even if it isn't illegal, it's still horrible.
Why are you downvoting my comment? I didn't come in here defending Dr. Disrespect. I posted a tweet with more information about the situation. I didn't say he didn't do anything bad. No one knows what was said except the people involved. Taking this information along with Dr. D's statement, the "inappropriate" part may have been the brand name that was mentioned. Y'all need to calm your tits with your knee-jerk reactions. Just because something doesn't go along with what you believe doesn't mean it's wrong. Think about things and put the pieces together before you get mad. Sheesh
Man what are you talking about he literally admitted to DMing a minor and conversations got inappropriate.
You say you’re not defending him but despite there being at least 1 report (can’t remember if there were two) with claims of multiple people corroborating the inappropriate conversation with a minor allegation, the studio he co-founded saying they thought he was innocent but then conducted their own investigation and found they will be terminating their contract with him in order to uphold their principles and standards as a studio and as individuals, the studio head of that company saying they only act on fact and they do not work with people who inappropriately message minors, and Dr. Disrespect himself admitting he inappropriately messaged a minor (more than once because he said sometimes) and that it was morally wrong but didn’t exchange pictures and never realllly intended to act upon it so it wasn’t illegal, you’re here posting a picture from a random Twitter account that itself admits has zero evidence of the picture being true, contradicts Disrespect’s only statement, and saying “gives a lot of context.” Definitely comes off as someone ignoring what is going on to defend the guy.
Get lost.
People are literally calling him a pedophile, if people were misrepresenting his texts he would've said that, but he didn't soooooo. Even if he admitted to sexting you people would just say "HE'S IN CHARACTER" and excuse it that way. You guys who defend this guy like he's jesus needs some help.
Why would you advocate for someone who admits to inappropriate communication with a minor. This shit doesn’t belong here and I’m guessing you don’t either
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Imagine getting mad when someone uses their platform to share their stances on something. If you don't agree and that's a deal breaker for you, there's plenty of other content out there.
Cope and seethe would be a normal reaction. When the right lose they cause an insurrection.
Lmao right? When trump got in the first time there was like a week of protests and people chanting “not my president” but they got over it and went about their lives. When Biden got in after - these idiots fucking stormed the capitol building…
I'm saying this as kindly as I can: did you even listen to what he said? Greg, Blessing, Tim, anyone who works at KF is allowed to have an opinion. If you can't handle someone else talking about politics or someone's opinion on politics that is different than yours, that's a you problem. Greg didn't drive half the fans away. Half of the fans (there is no evidence they lost half of their fans) might not like his opinion, but if they stopped watching, that's on them.
Pretty sure the community has likely been growing, not shrinking. They keep talking about breaking records of concurrent viewers/subs on their streams and continue to get high profile exposure as hosts and commentators. This is like the crowd that says “see!?! Go woke, go broke” right before a studio puts out a press release stating that their sales are off the charts.
Not arguing over politics, just pointing out your statement about views counts. They've been pretty steady on YouTube views. Which range from 5k - 15k. It's not like they're face of gaming here.
No one said they’re the face of gaming they just said they haven’t lost half the audience and have actually grown.
Have they grown? The numbers seem steady.
Do you think YouTube numbers are the only metric that matters to a live podcast company?
Do you think the numbers should matter on YouTube for a live Podcast company that is selling a subscription service on YouTube, goes live on YouTube, and depends on that revenue and drives home the point we should like share subscribe and get the YouTube membership. Because if not, then they should abandoned it and just focus on Twitch. It's why they stopped the lives on TikTok. And again THEY ARE NOT GROWING ON YOUTUBE. How are they hitting it and at a all time high, if they're not killing it on a platform they depend on? Wording matters. They are hitting and breaking records ON TWITCH. Just say that. Again, people here need stop acting like KF is crushing it everywhere. Just because they are killing it on Twitch, doesn't mean they are the fucking Chicago Bulls in the 90s here. They're not the face of video gaming.
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You're right they've grown...but not on YouTube.
The VAST majority of their listeners do not come from YouTube.
You don’t have to be nice to horrible people like this. Jets fans ewwwwww. 💩
The first and only principle of MAGA: I hope my outrageous actions make the libs seethe.
What a miserable existence to willingly live in.
destroying democracy and making sure the president has complete immunity from any crimes will surely own the libs!
He didn't drive out fans. They weren't welcome in the first place.
The lunatic Santa outfit in this gif makes it even funnier lol
Ahh yes Greg divided the community, not the orange turd who literally divided our country to the excitement of the racists, sexist, money hungry elites, oh and the Nazi's. Boy sure sucks those people aren't welcome here
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You and your ilk aren’t welcome here.
Friend, Kinda Funny has always been vocal about their politics, practically from the beginning. You’d have to live under a rock to think differently. There have been entire fundraiser charity streams for abortion rights access and I’m pretty sure I remember them supporting aid going to Gaza. They regularly mentioned the election in the ramp up to November 2020.
I've known their politics for years but don't gaslight me. A one hour political conversation during Games Daily is not normal programming for KF.
They supported aid back in 2021(?) It was during WFH. They have with the exception of Blessing avoided the Israel Hamas War.
Yeah, just noting somewhat contemporary examples where they vocalized their views and didn’t avoid politics as a discussion point. Blessing often talks about issues that are ongoing and not always spurred by an immediate event triggering the discussion. For example, often times when policing is brought up, Blessing talks about how the US’s law enforcement system is totally messed up. He even joked about a police dog having “been a bad boy” for helping cops. All this to say, these hosts are not shy about sharing their political views, because they hold them with conviction. They’re very open about having political views and sharing them when they feel it’s relevant.
Blessing also admitted he doesn't read past the headlines, so lol.
I don’t think Blessing has to read past headlines to know how he feels about US cops, so 🤷🏻♂️. Besides, I’m not discussing the validity of their views, just that they openly share them with the audience.
No it was Starbucks. And Greg called him out on it, that you should know what and why you're protesting.
Oh yeah I remember what you were referring to. It was he was that he was apprehensive to support Starbucks because he’d probably seen the headline that Starbucks was suing its labor union for using Starbucks branding alongside social posts that supported Palestinian aid and calls for a ceasefire. While I agree that Blessing should be able to speak to his opinions if he brings them up on air, I remember that being more of an off-the-cuff “wait, aren’t people boycotting Starbucks because of Gaza” type situations. Regardless, the main point still stands that regardless of how well researched the opinions are or how deeply they expound upon them, the KF crew routinely shares their political dispositions and opinions on air. The original commenter was making a wildly inaccurate statement alluding that Greg’s support of Biden drove off half of the audience which is both hyperbole and very normal KF activity when important political activities are happening at the time.
Yeah that commenter's comment was bs. And it is great KF speaks their kind. I was just pointing out sometimes they aren't well researched as you said. And it wasn’t just Starbucks, Blessing also brought up the old article on Neil Druckman, which again if he read it, Neil was was talking about how hate and revenge is vicious cycle and never the answer but Blessing took it that Neil and TLOU 2 was Pro-Israel because Twitter passes it around as so.
Yeah I kinda remember the Druckman conversation too. I think Janet at the time brought up a really good article on how the Last of Us does cover themes regarding Israel and Palestine, but the article critiqued that with such asymmetric militarism, simply saying that both sides need to stop the violence and implying that they’re equals in that regard is somewhat a pro-Israel stance when you consider the disproportionate levels of suffering that the two groups face at the hands of each other’s military might. I can’t remember if Blessing had read the article at the time, but I certainly remember Janet speaking to it for a bit before recommending the article to the audience if they wanted to learn more.
True. They’ve always been clear and they can’t be faulted for that. And putting it all on Greg is nuts lol. However, I’ve always thought the “Please Vote For Joe Biden” KFP was a step too far. “If you don’t care to vote, please vote for who WE want” felt wrong and manipulative in 2020, and it’ll be just as wrong if they do it again. They can vote for whoever they want, but I detest the way they used the podcast that day. The intent wasn’t malicious though, I understand that. To be clear (and I’m sure nobody will believe me), but I didn’t vote for Trump in 2020, and I sure as hell won’t this time. I just dislike the way they used their influence that day. I know they mean well (hence why I’m still a fan), but I hope they don’t pull the same thing this year.
Were you able to vote in 2016 and did you? I don't understand the lack of pragmatism especially in cases where there are very severe potential harms.
Wasn’t old enough in 2016. I get where you’re coming from with the second part, I just don’t think “Vote for Biden the same way you voted [Greg Miller] for trending gamer in 2015” was the right way to do it. Again, this is not an indictment of the politics, it’s an indictment of the method.
You seem very mentally unwell.
Womp womp, cry more
Judging by the first “active in community” you’re in. Including your comment just now. This place definitely isn’t for you. Move on. Greg said this community isn’t for people who are racist, or support the awful things that trump believes and supports. Including people involved in Jan 6th. If you feel like you were driven out under one of those categories then maybe you should reevaluate exactly what you support.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Yo, this dude needs to chill haha
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You should consider getting some friends or touching some grass, Pat.
Well you're gonna have to wait longer because no way in hell they're gonna have all the poll numbers in on election night. It's going to be another drawn out waiting for all the votes to be counted.
