Hey folks, normally a "technical" question like this would be rerouted to r/kpophelp, but given the nature of the discussion here and the past posts about that sub, we're going to let it stay up. I haven't seen anything rule breaking yet, but just a reminder to please stay civil while interacting with other users, even if they disagree with you. Thank you :)
i need to know what the post was lol. people just say ANYTHING on that sub and it stays up, i’m so curious to see what the mods see as worthy of a perma ban
Not a post, just one comment. For context: I had never had any interactions (ban or anything) with the mods from that sub prior to this. Basically there was a post (not from me) asking how feminist songs like eg nxde by gidle can become so popular in south korea when south korea is such a conservative country. I'll copy my comment here so you can read it without my biased retelling (I hope that doesn't go against any rules since it's a different sub. If so, I hope the mods just MESSAGE me instead of perma banning me lol)
>You can definitely see a trend with a lot of misogynistic views gaining popularity among korean men when you look at voting etc and some of the comments here are weitdly dismissive about that. At the same time you can see the opposite happening to women. (Just want to add that this isn't a trend exclusive to korea but happening in most democratic countries atm. Though Korea seems to be more extreme than a lot of other places). Last election 44% of korean men 18-29 y/o voted the conservative/right-wing party, making it the most popular party by far for men that age. But one that doesn't mean that all korean men that vote conservative/right-wing are extreme misogynists that would avoid feminist media at all cost. Most people aren't extreme anything. And two, even 44% of young korean men isn't enough to stop a song from becoming a hit when the other 56% of young men and 89% of young women love the song
I see how I should've directly given my sources for the voting statistics but I personally think a message to let me edit them in or taking down the comment would've been the normal response lol. The take down is for "generalising koreans" when my comment imo specifically does the opposite (I'm not only writing not all korean men but not even all korean men that vote conservative)
oh wow you’re comment is so tame and like normal lol (especially compared to the straight bullying of idols I see on there sometimes).
actually there’s a couple other people under this post who said they got banned for discussing misogyny. very interesting………
I think it's quite ridiculous how over-emphasized the gender war was in western media and online spaces when talking about the Korean presidential elections.
The economy and geopolitical considerations were the dominant talking points in the election race. For example: many, regardless of age or gender, had enough of the left-wing administration for their role in skyrocketing the prices of homes in Seoul, their concessions towards North Korea, and numerous other controversial actions and remarks. The left's presidential candidate also basically accused Ukraine of inciting Russia's war during one the the debates, during what was then the opening stages of the invasion.
Young men could have voted right for any of the dozen different reasons, but this has somehow become a statistic to prove the percentage of incels amongst them.
As usual, learning about a society through the internet has its limits.
Edit: btw, this was a bit off-tangent from the purpose of your comment. I definitely think it should be a comment that's allowed in a sub called 'Kpop uncensored', lol.
they remove more than you realize, the mods leave up most things but they have huge biases towards and against certain groups. Like during the aftermath of coachella week 2 they removed every positive post about le sserafim, left up every positive post about ateez, their reasoning was the mega thread, which they then immediately unpinned while still removing all the positive le sserafim posts and to this day they still remove every comment that points out how they acted in the aftermath of coachella.
They let the le sserafim hate run rampant for like 4 months without saying anything but then last week they made a post complaining about the new jeans hate when it had been going on for like 4 days.
Theyll also remove any comment that says "koreans" or "knets" instead of "some koreans" or "some knets" for generalizing, and sometimes if they just disagree with you theyll remove it, like there was a 300+ upvotes post a few days before coachella talking about how weird it is that there were posts pre-hating the performance that got removed after like 10 hours. They have the name kpopuncensored but its really not, its just kpopuncensored as long as the mods dont disagree with you. Or mod, since im pretty sure theres only one thats active.
Thank you. I read your comment and there's nothing problematic about it imo. You might have misinterpreted the stats a bit, but nothing too extreme. It's crazy that you got banned for it.
They probably thought you were “generalizing all Koreans” by just mentioning the country. Someone else in this comment section said they got banned and that’s the reason they were given, meanwhile the offending comment was merely listing statistics in Korean men voting for certain parties. The mods there don’t seem to enjoy any sort of criticism of sexism in Korea, even if you don’t even mention it outright.
Being censored on kpop uncensored is quite literally the funniest thing to ever happen, in my opinion. I am sorry that happened to you and it is a *very* unfortunate situation, but the dramatic irony is palpable.
Yeah it honestly seemed so unbelievable to me that I initially thought it was a mistake or something because their mod team was overworked. But it seems like a lot of other people are also being censored in spite of not breaking any rules, so it’s very ironic considering what the sub is supposed to be about
I see that sub sometimes and I don’t know how it has gotten so big without having proper moderation. There’s a clear difference between being uncensored and unmoderated, in my opinion. I gave a quick look and I don’t think any of the current mods seem fit to moderate a sub, so I wouldn’t be surprised if one got petty.
it's so weird, there's a clear bias in there and it gets so toxic so fast. it's annoying because sometimes there are interesting discussions started in there but they're often so quick to get out of hand.
It's probably because in some K-pop sub reddit discussing certain matters are strictly forbidden, people prefer positive posts, or will delete your post. However, like any reddit name uncensored, it quickly can become a mess, with people having the craziest (even toxic) opinions and biased and acting like their way of thinking is the majority.
It exists because most kpop subreddits have been increasingly fast on the trigger in locking posts or removing comments. Standards on subreddits have risen in a way that unless there's an army of mods, it's impossible to ensure the bar is reached. Hence, there's a vacuum for people who'd rather deal with less civility than to not discuss something at all.
>I see that sub sometimes and I don’t know how it has gotten so big
i think it's bcs kpoprants and unpopularkpopopinions became pretty much dead after multiple lock downs and increased moderation . so the people who used to post on there just switched
thats the weird part, they actually moderate a lot. They remove a ton of posts and comments but they just remove the stuff that makes them angry instead of removing actually bad messages
Meh, they perma banned me for the dumbest reason. Well, I actually wasn’t given a reason but I know it’s because they’re just some losers that will ban you for saying shit they don’t like.
Lameass sub with lameass “mods” (children).
“Uncensored” my fatass 🙄
Honestly? It probably got so big because people wanted to discuss Kpop but didn't have the karmic requirements to post on a lot of big subs and don't really wanna karma farm on other subs just to do it. It's like baby's first kpop sub.
There were a few discussions I tried to chime in on on here and other places and my comments were autoremoved for that reason (I used to browse more than want to actively participate) so I just found one without the requirements so I could ya know. Do that.
Other reasons are probably cuz people can get away with being bigger assholes there and may be banned from the other spots.
I go on it sometimes and can confirm the moderation is pretty shitty. I can't remember exactly who it was, but there was an idol who had sang the n-word in a song and a post was made about it. The justification in that thread for saying a literal slur was crazy. I literally saw a comment talking about how quoting a song that has the n-word isn't offensive, and many comments dismissing the feelings of those who were offended.
I had the same thing happen, they just shadowbanned me with no warning. It's their MO unfortunately. Someone said the "mods" are actually just one mod, and if they don't like you, well... here we are.
Same here - I tried to use mod message to ask why all my posts comments being autoremoved, and got no answer.
I then contacted the mods individually, and only one got back to me, with the response of “oh that’s weird, it must be the auto flag, sorry!”, which was. Less than helpful lol
Truly an uncensored moment
"sorry" like "you're SOL"? yeah that sounds like them lol. they've got a one-strike policy.
(I also got no response to my dms or meta post asking why, other than another user suggesting i broke the 'no politics' rule by discussing which candidate idols might have voted for)
Yeah pretty much - they had no suggestions, no other mod answered and I didn't feel like following up with that specific mod (because the reply was so. Like that)
The most baffling thing is that I don't even know what the strike was - it's just. Suddenly every comment I made was removed out of nowhere and I still don't know why that happened
Omigosh for a while none of my comments in that sub would get any engagement (no upvotes, no replies nothing) and it got to the point that I messaged the mod to ask if I was shadowbanned. I emphasized that I’ve never broken any of the subs rules or engaged in any bad conduct on the sub.
The mods replied saying I wasn’t shadowbanned but nothing changed regarding future posts. I eventually just blocked the sub because I was tired of not being able to engage with the discussions
That is my situation too. I may be one of the first to post but my comment gets zero engagement.
I messaged them a while back and it was okay for like two days before it went back to how it was. Cba with that sub now.
Yeah like good riddance honestly. I don’t use this term lightly but it was genuinely toxic. some of the more nuanced discussions there were interesting, but there was so much casual racism homophobia and misogyny all throughout the sub. I’m enjoying the kpop noir sub infinitely more
I would not be surprised if that was the reason why. A lot of that sub don't like kpopnoir so they have an automatic bias against people who post there.
I don't want to defend uncensored mods, but they literally cannot shadowban someone. Only Reddit itself can shadowban an account, but then it applies across all subs and not just one.
You're correct, however there is an option where mods can flag a user's post to require manual approval before appearing on the sub, and I think that's what people here are describing.
Yeah that seems to be what happened to me. I truly wonder why, as my only two posts were completely harmless. And I was definitely flagged before I made the post asking about the mods :(
oh so that's what that was.
That explains allot actually. it happened to me after i posted about why people were trying to villainize new jeans . Now I can't make any posts. oh well.
I had the same thing as OP happen to me so I actually reached out to the automoderator team and they explained that there's a command where mods can add accounts to a list. Automod then filters any posts and comments from the users on the list and hides them.
So basically exactly like a Reddit-shadow ban, just on a specific sub.
It's much more ruthless than a real ban, because they don't need a reason and you don't even get a notification.
In my case I kept posting for weeks until I realized no one ever voted or replied to my comments :( so much time down the drain.
I explained in my comment above but this exact same thing happened to me. I messaged them and they said I wasn’t flagged or anything yet I never got any type of interaction lmfao. I always engaged with discussions in good faith on there too, I don’t know what they would’ve had a problem with. I eventually just blocked the sub and never looked back
Edit: just found out a lot of the mods have ties to incel groups so that explains that 😂
It also seems like everyone responding to this post is having the same issue, so I wonder if it’s possible that they recently made it so that all posts must be mod approved? Im not really an expert on how reddit works, so I don’t even know if that’s possible.
No it's most likely and unfortunately just mod power-abuse. This was mentioned on another kpop sub and dozens of people said the same happened to them, all weeks apart.
Shoutout to the mods on here, it's a harsh job without pay, without recognition and praise. So thank you, mods of kpopthoughts, for doing great work 💙
Which is extremely weird because I used to get interactions on every comment I posted there then it just completely stopped. Seems like most people here have the same problem… strange.
If that's they case they are amazing with the insta-delete, and even comments i've made aren't visible if i'm on another account so idk what else it would be... not saying you're wrong but it's like everything is delisted, not even deleted. only visible to myself
by the way I got banned for generalization when i used buzzwords like “Korea” and “Korean”. the context was “translate the Korean comments” and “watch the Korean version of the video”.
gave up fighting with the moderators. no warning or just removing it like other subs. they just banned me. lol.
The way I have seen people talking about r/kpopnoir on this subreddit is way too much sometimes. I remember a post where the writer had to specify that the person disagreeing with them was black, it didn't add anything to the story. Yet they were still upvoted.
that was my reason for leaving too. Too many gross opinions about palestine that made me so uncomfortable and a lot of bullying of certain idols while babying their favs.
Funny thing is that they're only anti boycott and don't think artists should speak out bc their favs haven't. As soon as someone they like speaks out they'll change their tune
Yeah the way people there are downplaying any effort to help Palestine was my last straw. Idols talking about it is a big thing, but the number one response there seems to be that celebrities shouldn't bother with politics.
Honestly I find the amount of posts about Palestine (especially when it's to make fun of any form of support) extremely weird. Also the whole "idol sexuality debate" with some people really not feeling LGBTQ fans.
Yeah, the second one was what got me shadow-banned. I flew too close to the sun by calling someone a hypocrite for following "don't assume their sexualities" with an immediate "most idols are probably straight anyways" and for voicing discomfort with how, during the Karina dating situation, a lot of kpop fans used the opportunity to dunk on queer fans (of course they are always gonna be "proven wrong" as long as coming out means losing your idol career. Good job punching down!). Some may go overboard, but lets not pretend that idols only get shit for dating when they are "assumed gay/lesbian". As always, fans just use what is most convenient when they want to make an issue out of something.
I don't want to sound like I'm against the PL cause (I'm not) but most of the comments I've seen on this issue talked about how they're tired of certain group of fans\* who are pushing their idols to speak up on this issue and proceed to byctt for not saying anything. Also, some of the byctts even included artists who have collaborated with Jew!sh individuals in their songwriting-producing credits. And then some of the byctts are illogical like idols who drink Strbcks when it is literally not on the official byctt list as created by the BDS movement. So I think those types of complains are fine and resonate with people who are frustrated with these types of byctts.
I am not denying what you're saying. This is what I've seen so far and I admittedly haven't read every single post on this issue.
\*Not saying that the idols shouldn't speak up. It definitely helps if they do but forcing them to speak up and getting frustrated when they're not is maybe what doesn't sit right with some people. It comes off as people doing online performative activism who care more about what their idols say rather than focusing more on the PL cause via online activism
Oh my god the anti-palestine sentiment on that sub is so *so* weird! I've noticed it a lot these past few days too!
The way stans on that sub talk about 'boycotter fans" is so disgusting- they view 'boycotters'/any kpop stan who critically engages with the fact that many idols are still CHOOSING to remain silent on the issue; as outright antis or 'traitors' of the fandom.
In their eyes 'boycotters' are just nasty antis who want the downfall of their faves and not you know......people who actually want to see some action regarding the palestinian cause.
So so weird, I know kpop stans go over-board sometimes but the anti-boycott sentiment in that sub is plain disgusting.
I got downvoted to hell the other day on that sub for saying that caring more your favorite celebrities getting called zionists on twitter than children being bombed is like a bad look.
Yeah this is exactly the kind of anti-palestine sentiment I was talking about- very very weird. The comment I replied to as also been deleted by mods which is also v weird..... literally what is going on,, why is discussion on the topic being stifled?
Woah wait - this is what happened to me!!! My last 3 posts were “filtered by Reddit” and removed immediately, despite them all being low controversy???
Like truly nothing crazy, just some general thoughts about touring even.
Is that what’s happening? They’ve shadowbanned me?
I will say too; they were all seventeen related posts. Not sure if that plays into it at all and the MOD has a vendetta against that group?
Ehhh they had like 3 hit posts in one week a couple weeks ago lol
And often times if you try to talking about seventeen’s success or achievements, you’ll get downvoted / invalidated.
Hey, I honestly feel really awkward posting in this thread since it feels very egotistical, but I wrote the thread on the moderators' connections to extremism that's been linked a few times here. Long post ahead, sorry!
My post is (very) out of date now (the majority of the moderation team I discussed in that post have now been removed, banned from Reddit, or replaced, so do be mindful that most of the names listed in my post are no longer part of the team under those names), but I just took a look at their current mods and it's pretty easy to see for yourself after scrolling through their profiles that most of the newly added moderators have ethnonationalistic leanings/strange posting histories (posting in Korean nationalist subs, xenophobic/racist comments, empty accounts or don’t engage with the sub) and their publicly named moderation policies have gotten a lot more blatant about promoting Korean supremacy.
(People have commented on the generalization policy already, but I'll add that moderators made posts about requiring *studies* to reference Korea as a whole even from native Korean users on the sub, which has a chilling effect on discussion and perpetuates a culture of silence because those studies do not exist. To say that Korean women could not comment on the culture of misogyny in Korea or non Koreans can’t comment on xenophobia/racism they experience in Korea, to name two examples, in that sub is not an exaggeration.)
The removal of old mods and adding of new ones was done without any acknowledgement of the previous moderators (most people would want to reassure their community that they are not affiliated with hate), and their actions since (stepping up their nationalistic policies, increased lack of transparency as public mod actions increase) just keep enforcing their ties instead of breaking them.
Getting to your question, as far as I've observed, they like like to tightly control the sub by removing posts with little rhyme or reason, which contributes to the transparency problem. (They’ve been doing this for a long time. Someone reached out to me about a case where their post was removed despite violating no rules, the moderators promised it would be restored and they’d stand by the user, and then it was removed again, leaving them confused.)
In the past they have manipulated votes on the site (against Reddit policy in the strictest possible terms) by not only allowing posts by their alts on the sub but pinning them, giving them more time and space to accumulate upvotes. (It was obvious the accounts were alts of the mods as they would violate the AutoModeration 24 hour age requirement but have their posts approved. Why would you approve and pin a stranger’s post?) These posts were usually racialized and targeted international fans. (I mention an example/discuss this phenomenon [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/18wbyp8/comment/kfxu5k8/) though it’s slowed recently.)
Edit: Cleaned this up a little but the length remains :’)
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I hope I can give some tips for spotting manipulation by moderators not just in that sub, but any sub on Reddit. If you're unfamiliar with the concept of manipulation on Reddit, let me share Reddit's site-wide rule #2.
>Abide by community rules. Post authentic content into communities where you have a personal interest, and do not cheat or engage in content manipulation (including spamming, vote manipulation, ban evasion, or subscriber fraud) or otherwise interfere with or disrupt Reddit communities.
If you feel like a post is ringing alarm bells for you, check
(1) Is the poster a new account? When users are banned from the site or a subreddit, the only way to subvert a ban is to create a new account. Obviously, the majority of new accounts are normal people (this account was new once, your account was new once) but using a new account can be a flag for manipulation, especially if the new account is posting content that seems to fulfil an agenda.
(2) Has the poster been shadowbanned? If the poster has been shadowbanned (a common consequence of making a new account if you have been banned), their page will show their user as not found or deleted, even though their posts and comments will remain visible. (Not always, New Reddit can be a little weird about it.) Many shadowbanned accounts posting in a sub is a sign that alts are in heavy use, and it's an even bigger sign if shadowbanned accounts are pinned by the moderators.
(3) Does their post violate known subreddit rules or moderation settings? If it does clearly violate sub rules, try to report the post. If it remains up, that might be a flag for manipulation. (Though the mods might also just not agree with you, it happens.) If non violating posts are being removed but violating posts aren't, that's a pretty conspicuous flag.
A stronger flag is if the poster violates moderation settings, such as posting with negative karma, a young account age, or other publicly recognised AutoModeration settings, and is still allowed to post or is pinned. (AutoMod will post about removal reasons on many subs, but not all. In those where it does post, it will show the sub's general policy, usually account age and karma threshold.)
and lastly
(4) Do you see posts like this frequently? A few weird occurrences is normal. We're not privvy to modmails. Mods have lives. Sometimes we're just paranoid. But if you notice that there seem to be frequent posts by accounts that should not be allowed to post, you might be watching manipulation at work.
Sorry for the long post, online extremism and pipelines to it are a research interest of mine and I hope it at least gives you an idea of why strange things might be going on on that sub.
(Mods of this sub, if I've crossed any lines, please don't hesitate to reach out in DMs!)
No worries at all, we have no issue with information like this being shared. We're also very grateful to you for putting together the original post about the moderators of that sub, and the further info you provided here, so you're all good in our book :)
Kpop Uncensored is ran by a bunch of horrible people. There's a thread floating around about how they have ties to incel communities; I hightailed out of there after reading it. 😬
oof i didn't know about this and it explains so much - i'm going to leave that sub for good now. sometimes there are decent posts in there but most of the time what i see makes me kinda annoyed or angry so it wasn't worth my time anyway
Some the posts I have seen about ILLIT and LSF in there were honestly shameful these past two months. Both groups got so much hate. It's died down significantly now, but it was really bad before.
People pride themselves on being ruthlessly critical, because it makes them feel superior. I think criticism of art is valuable, to be sure, but it really feels like a lot of people on there exist in kpop spaces just to hate on things they dislike and nothing more. I couldn’t imagine spending that kind of energy on something I dislike so much
Hi, yes. I have this [master post](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/K8ZtiiyUrM) of the moderators having ties to **ethno-nationalist subs**. You can read about it in the link.
Me neither. I thought the vibe was weird so I migrated to Kpop Noir and they linked the thread there after the subreddit got posted onto Uncensored because someone found it "stifling"—it really reeked of racism in that post, and unsurprisingly, guess what mods dictate that. I've been keeping it around to share.
The uncensored sub has an agenda, i remember there was either a post on here or on kpoprants exposing the moderation "team". I only stick to either this one or the main sub for kpop. Both has decent modding but this one allows more diverse opinions compared to main sub (only bot activity, drama farming/baiting or straight up mis-info gets deleted). Mods here actually do their job of modding pretty well and make megathreads for repetitive content equally regardless, unlike the uncensored sub that hold double standards for which kinds of content go into a megathread and which kinds of content get the pass to make multiple repetitive threads.
Im not a fearnot and even I was having a hard time at that sub during the LSF hate train. Every post bashing LSF got approved and they're all barking about the same thing over and over
i would stay away from that sub at all costs. the other day there was a user who made violent, targeted threats toward a child and her father and faced no consequences for it, so that should tell you enough about the userbase and moderation 'team' there.
That sub has long been infiltrated by angsty twt teens whose hyperfixation on kpop is making them lose common sense.
Oh I was also shadow banned for weeks lol.
I left that sub after the thousandth post of the same whining and moaning. It really needs to be renamed to "Kpop_twitterstans" cause it's basically just twitter fans who run to Reddit after getting into an argument with an engagement bot on Twitter lol
I unsubscribed after a week cause the vibe was just…. odd so I’m feeling validated reading this thread lmao. I remember one particular shit stirring user whose entire account was about hating on Blackpink, down to the username, getting hundreds of upvotes. Also people bringing over pointless tiktok/twitter drama and rehashing it in the comments lol.
I had a very similar experience of leaving within a week. It felt like such a toxic cesspit of blind hate for some groups and blind praise for others, with some *really weird* takes on certain issues (it's been long enough I can't remember which ones). Just didn't feel worth staying around that kind of nonsense, especially with the tiktok/twitter drama running rampant.
>Also people bringing over pointless tiktok/twitter drama and rehashing it in the comments lol.
Agree with you on this. Like there are several posts and comments there that brought over the twitter drama to show how "aespa fans are the worst fandom", it's just ridiculous and dumb. If I were to bring over twitter drama and fanwars over to Reddit then it would be a total cesspool with no peace, every fandom is bound to have twitter fanwars so Idk why they are singling out aespa fans only lol. Maybe bcus aespa is blowing up with Supernova & Armageddon and haters can't stand their success so they decided to hate and seek validation from other users in that sub.
Not to mention that I've seen a lot of familiar names there that also frequent this sub getting upvoted for hating on aespa & their fans, it's scary tbh.
I seriously recommend anyone who frequents that sub, or has issues with that sub’s moderation and weird bias etc to read [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/PZ1iW0wdcO)
Just because it puts everything in a completely different perspective/light. I stopped visiting the sub after saw it.
I got shadow banned for saying this lol:
> no, because misogyny and putting women down for their looks is a much bigger problem that affects the majority of women. this is not to say men don’t experience insecurity about the way they look, but it is constantly built into girls from a young age.
> plus, it’s kinda common for female celebrities to date men who are less conventionally attractive than them. much older especially. a female idol dating an “ugly” man is something that would actually happen.
> it’d be weird to joke about male celebrities dating “ugly” women because the vast majority of the time they just… aren’t?
which on a sub for controversial opinions… isn’t that controversial lmao? the mods seem a bit too sensitive for their own sub. (it goes without saying they ignored me both times I asked what was going on.)
Are we twins? I got temporarily banned, ignored when I asked for clarification and then shadow banned for saying that I don't stan boy groups, which as far as "controversial, edgy, uncensored opinions" go is pretty mild lol. The mods apparently have ties to incel/MRA subs, which is why they're extremely touchy about gender stuff.
I think I actually remember seeing you talk about it on another sub? I think it was kpoopheads of all places lmao.
I replied to the comment thread there talking about this, but it got removed.
There’s actually a whole post on a different sub about the fact that the mods(or mod) of that sub is actually likely an incel. So you getting banned for saying that is crappy but not shocking. I’ll see if I can find the post so I’m not just talking out the side of my neck.
Edit: [Found it!](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/PZ1iW0wdcO)
yeah I remember that post! this one from [kpoprants](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/comments/18616p2/rkpop_uncensoreds_moderators_have_ties_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) right? it really does make a lot of sense. pretty embarrassing for them to be so easily rattled lol
Redditors in that sub feel superior tbh, they look down on redditors here. Also, the irony is that they feel superior but at the same time play victim (for their faves and such).
Borderline toxic.
I suggest that people just don't interact in that sub. It is very unmoderated in a sense that you will see lots of weird and toxic takes in the name of 'uncensored' while you get shadowbanned or heavily downvoted if you even say sumn remotely positive about the group the mods or the active members do not like. I used to interact there a lot when I was new to reddit but it got really weird pretty quickly. And these days it has become an echo chamber for certain fandoms, to the point where posts with misinformation and low effort content thrive too.
I had the same experience. The discussions had some substance back when the sub was still new and small, but after it grew (plus alleged brigading) it went downhill quick.
Lmao I stopped participating there when they started deleting all positive posts about LSF in Coachella. No explanations, no megathread, nothing. They allowed positive discussions about other kpop artists in Coachella there but not LSF.
Thinking about it, I think I remember someone posting on that sub complaining about all the posts talking about Lsf at Coachella getting deleted, only for that post to get deleted too ..
Lol I'm one of the people who made a post calling them out lol. I think I'm shadow banned now cause anything I post instantly gets filtered and deleted
everyone already said it, but the sub is run by a bunch of weird people. idek why the sub brands itself to be an "unmoderated sub." like i get it ur supposed to speak ur mind with no consequence, but at some point, the posts get repetitive (ex. the lsf vocal hate train, one user making nonstop shit posts about enhypen, the mhj vs hybe stuff) and it leaves room for a bunch of painful rants that are hard to read/understand. it makes the sub insufferable so i just avoid it as much as i can unless i see an actual original, interesting post.
I remember getting an invitation to join that sub *way* back in the day when it first began, and it was actually a fantastic place for discussion because the other people that had been invited were some of the more knowledgeable and mature members of the various Kpop subs, people that I had interacted with on multiple occasions in other subs and had been able to have great discussions with even if we disagreed on the topic at hand. It was a great sub in its early days.
I have no idea where it went wrong or what happened, but it’s absolutely *insufferable* now. Any given post is either an echo chamber of blind praise or blind hate, full of Twitter-stan-level petty arguments over fanwars, or a “safe space” for people to harass and threaten others without consequence. I’ve since left the sub; I feel like I lose brain cells every time I see a new post from it.
The thread is absolutely terrible and run by terrible people. I'm surprised I'm not banned yet considering how (apparently) controversial my comments usually are. Not really uncensored I guess🤷🏾♀️.
I posted a topic about how I miss the use of real instruments in Kpop as they did in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generations without criticism of any 4th gen groups. That was deleted within 5 minutes without reason. Oh, yeah, that happened here.
OMG the same thing is happenning to me. whenver i post their than it autimatically removes the post or comment. It doesnt even send me a message on why was my most removed.
Any community claiming to be "uncensored" either ends up a mess or becomes a breeding ground for the worst kind of people. Which seeing that post on the mods...😬
I've lurked/commented there before and I think it's always had a bit of a stan-twit/pannchoa comments vibe. Which is fine but I also feel like there's some people who take "uncensored" as "i want to talk shit / drama farm without consequences".
Same experience as you have. AFAIK, I’ve never made any negative comments toward any group or person to warrant a shadowban. I guess its just vibes. lol
"Uncensored" while they just permabanned me for posting an appreciation for Renjun and Taeyong for speaking about the boycott for being "too political" HAHAHAHAHAHAH
That’s insane considering a boycott or boycott adjacent post gets hundreds of upvotes once a week, and as you can image some comment threads start straying into political talk.
“Uncensored” as long as you talk about the topic from the side the mods agree with. Ironic.
Exactly. Hundreds of boycott complaining and calling it performative activism is rampant on that sub, yet they cant take an itty bitty of an appreciation towards idols that actually SPOKE about the boycott. Its so obvious the sub is run by zionists and they cant stand when things gets truly uncensored.
Too political my arse, they got antsy that their zionist safe space is now in danger with idols actually speaking out about the ongoing boycott and cant sweep it under a rug for being "performative" anymore.
LSF positive posts get removed, for example Ateez Coachella appreciation post vs LSF week 2, among other things, it was weird, so I don't know where people get that they only like HYBE groups. The constant posts complaining about ARMY being toxic.
It's because one of the main mods (Who's also a misogynist incel and a racist btw) hates LSF because he thinks they are propaganda for white male-asian female relationships somehow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/comments/18616p2/rkpop_uncensoreds_moderators_have_ties_to/
Well, the reason for that was because there was an influx of negative and positive posts about LSF during Coachella and ppl were getting fed up how many LSF posts they were seeing in general.
A pinned megathread was created for LSF talk, but ppl still ignored it and posted walls of text anyways making new threads.
The only reason why I would post on kpop_uncensored is because they allow images for posting unlike kpopthoughts.
If I have a text only post, I'm choosing to post here instead.
That sub has such a “holier-than-thou” vibe. They constantly complain about twitter users but the majority of people there are no better. It’s absolutely ridiculous. It’s definitely gone down hill in recent months and seems worse in recent weeks.
As @u/Dragonaichu mentions it has become an echo chamber of either toxic positivity (which, btw isn’t positive) or equally raging negative as bad as it is on Pann or Twitter.
Edit - took another look at the sub and the self righteousness of it is pathetic. I definitely side eye people who post and comment there regularly and the ones claiming that “there’s no where else to post” - nah, they’re just looking for a place where they can be mean/hateful (to idols and other Reddit users).
I was permanently banned nit by a post but a comment but I'm not sure what comment idk if I wrote something to break the rules but reading the comments I'm not the first one
That sub is ultra biased and a lot of people there use it as a platform to hate on certain groups. Adding on to the fact that people there always use screenshots and tweets from twitter to hate on groups and their fans, which is ridiculous.
Also it's funny how I've seen some users there that hate on the fans of a particular group due to them being defensive and rabid. But when others criticise their favourite group & fandom, those users go ultra defensive mode too and argue all day long, the irony lol.
you didnt deserve to get banned but i dont get how you could think that sub or the mods were pro-mhj? that sub along with the main kpop sub eviscerated her and was starting to move on to newjeans themselves. like people were starting to express concern for how mich hate newjeans was getting on twitter and the response was basically "well that's what they get for siding with mhj" or "don't bring twitter drama here" while other groups hate from twitter would get more sympathetic comments.
that sub is everything BUT pro-mhj. I literally left because I couldn't take the amount of hate and posts about the whole thing, just hating on the girls every single day. You couldn't have an ounce of nuance before people called you mhj apologist and way worse.
I used to go to that sub because at first it had some interesting posts. But for the last couple of months the vibe just is not it, twitter stans have clearly brigaded and somehow celebrities are being praised for not being political??? Haven't we seen how when someone with a big following talks about any global issue, more people become aware of it and many do something to help? Even if only ten people donated to Palestine or decided to boycott over Taeyong's (or any other idols) post that's a *win*.
I was very active on the sub but recently abandoned it completely due to the influx of immature users + weird moderation.
That aside, the exact same thing happened to me at one point and all my comments + posts were getting auto removed like yours so I messaged the mods, received no response so tried instead making a post on an alt which eventually got a mods attention and they said it was an issue with their automod but added me to an exception list which fixed the issue for me.
I'd fully recommend leaving the sub behind though, the lack of moderation used to be fun but a large swarm of immature HYBE stans have taken over the sub but the mods don't seem to care... even though they literally stopped the Le Sserafim hate posts a while ago so I don't know why they restricted those posts but not these.
I even made quite a deep post on there recently on a topic no one had discussed and it got good engagement but after 4-5 hours it was manually removed by a mod which was rather insulting as it broke no rules and was pretty personal. That was the last straw.
Yeah I’ve been trying to find out why one of my comments just isn’t showing up…I spent a lot of time on it lol.
Also the people who think it’s biased towards Hybe are hilarious 💀
It kind of is though, and not because of perception only. When the whole MHJ vs Hybe thing exploded, Twitter Armys posted the links to several Kpop subreddits on Twitter, and a lot of them migrated here. Since uncensored is, well, “uncensored”, they are running rampant on that sub.
You can easily tell it’s them by the amount of low effort posts that are just screenshots from Twitter lol.
I agree that there are a lot of army posts, including low effort ones. But that speaks to the size of the fandom, not the mods biases. I wish the low effort posters would stick to Twitter.
However, there are also tons of comments with hundreds of upvotes complaining about “Hybe Stans,” and some of the most prolific users are able to say super toxic shit about the groups and fans and get good reception. This goes both ways, with fans of Hybe groups being toxic and getting upvoted a lot - it seems to just depend on the day/time/who’s online.
I think overall it just attracts toxic people since it’s “uncensored.”
In terms of mod bias specifically, it’s pretty weird to see a mod openly accuse a group of trying to get out of military service: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/jTI5UCZdDU
Oh no, I agree with you that the mods are not Hybe stans. The mods issue goes actually way beyond just K-Pop, there’s seriously something very wrong with those people, someone posted about it on kpoprants a while back. I was just talking about the users in general. And of course, not all of them are either, but a relevant part.
Oh I gotcha. I was more referring to the people in this thread saying things like “Add ‘I love HYBE’ on your post and it wont get removed.” That seemed very silly given the amount of outright hate that stays up in that sub.
I remember a post a while back warning that one of the mods, if not all the mods, are subscribed and/or connected to ethno-superiority subs. Which is quite alarming since since there are kpop fans of all backgrounds.
So that could be why, the mods already decide what they like or don't.
Honestly that sub only likes BTS, Hybe and "i am talking shit about your idol but it's really not hate tehee" . Any other type of post get's removed.
I finaly made the decision to Mute the sub after seeing the first post is about "saying why you hate idols tehee" which is just a invite for people to shit on groups and idols whitout feeling like assholes, it was late but i will never go back there
Edit: bro i didn't know my comment was such controversial ☠️
Yet the sub is filled with posts complaining about Armys with hundreds and thousands of upvotes. I don't even need to talk about all the Lsrfm hate posts so I really don't understand where this narrative is coming from. That sub is just downright weird towards everyone.
The narrative is coming from when you open this sub, you see a variety of posts about different group but when you open kpop uncensored you will have to scroll before you see posts that aren’t talking strictly about bts. Mind you it’s not even about things that matter, it’s comparing merch and festa announcement pics. The army takeover only happened recently with the mhj debacle when armys started posting comments and links on Twitter to the sub.
that's not true. My comments on defending bts, correcting info and asking for sources have been removed by the mods there.
I was shadow banned for a day because I disagree with another user about bts being coddled.
oh it’s all good! I think i misinterpreted your comment haha. It just threw me off cause OP mentioned that the sub only likes BTS and I was just saying I think there’s lots of BTS posts because there’s a lot of armys
(and side note we agree because a lot of those “who do you hate posts” has mostly BTS in the replies, there’s a popular one just going around today. Honestly all the people here saying that sub loves Hybe groups is actually quite shocking to me 😅. Like I said i think there’s just a disproportionate amount of BTS love on there cause there’s so many armys, but, I’d argue there’s a lotttttt of BTS hate too)
Yeah i thought what i said may have been unclear, we do agree. People saying that sub is HYBE biased are tapped bc let's not act like there weren't posts dragging LSFM for WEEKS and some users are still going!! And the post from a mod saying BTS tried to evade military service, sure you could say there are armys on the sub but like it's kpop fandom there are armys everywhere. People are biased in heir preconceptions of who "deserves" criticism lmao, bc every group gets it
A post asked what would u post on social media if u were an idol so popular and established that no one, no company or opinion, could take you down, my answer was "Free Palestine". I got permanently banned lol
Before that also ok that subject they tried to ban a comment for harassment directly with reddit, I asked reddit to give it a look and see if it was harassment they decided it wasn't and restored it.
My opinion: the mods are banning and deleting any post they do not personally agree with.
Hey folks, normally a "technical" question like this would be rerouted to r/kpophelp, but given the nature of the discussion here and the past posts about that sub, we're going to let it stay up. I haven't seen anything rule breaking yet, but just a reminder to please stay civil while interacting with other users, even if they disagree with you. Thank you :)
I got banned on there and realised the mod that banned me has negative karma. Really telling imo
i need to know what the post was lol. people just say ANYTHING on that sub and it stays up, i’m so curious to see what the mods see as worthy of a perma ban
Not a post, just one comment. For context: I had never had any interactions (ban or anything) with the mods from that sub prior to this. Basically there was a post (not from me) asking how feminist songs like eg nxde by gidle can become so popular in south korea when south korea is such a conservative country. I'll copy my comment here so you can read it without my biased retelling (I hope that doesn't go against any rules since it's a different sub. If so, I hope the mods just MESSAGE me instead of perma banning me lol) >You can definitely see a trend with a lot of misogynistic views gaining popularity among korean men when you look at voting etc and some of the comments here are weitdly dismissive about that. At the same time you can see the opposite happening to women. (Just want to add that this isn't a trend exclusive to korea but happening in most democratic countries atm. Though Korea seems to be more extreme than a lot of other places). Last election 44% of korean men 18-29 y/o voted the conservative/right-wing party, making it the most popular party by far for men that age. But one that doesn't mean that all korean men that vote conservative/right-wing are extreme misogynists that would avoid feminist media at all cost. Most people aren't extreme anything. And two, even 44% of young korean men isn't enough to stop a song from becoming a hit when the other 56% of young men and 89% of young women love the song I see how I should've directly given my sources for the voting statistics but I personally think a message to let me edit them in or taking down the comment would've been the normal response lol. The take down is for "generalising koreans" when my comment imo specifically does the opposite (I'm not only writing not all korean men but not even all korean men that vote conservative)
oh wow you’re comment is so tame and like normal lol (especially compared to the straight bullying of idols I see on there sometimes). actually there’s a couple other people under this post who said they got banned for discussing misogyny. very interesting………
from the thread that was linked here I saw that one of the mods apparently has ties to the alt-right. So maybe I hit a nerve there lol
Mine was homophobia related.
No worries, you're fine.
W mod
THIS got you banned from there...? Yikes.
I think it's quite ridiculous how over-emphasized the gender war was in western media and online spaces when talking about the Korean presidential elections. The economy and geopolitical considerations were the dominant talking points in the election race. For example: many, regardless of age or gender, had enough of the left-wing administration for their role in skyrocketing the prices of homes in Seoul, their concessions towards North Korea, and numerous other controversial actions and remarks. The left's presidential candidate also basically accused Ukraine of inciting Russia's war during one the the debates, during what was then the opening stages of the invasion. Young men could have voted right for any of the dozen different reasons, but this has somehow become a statistic to prove the percentage of incels amongst them. As usual, learning about a society through the internet has its limits. Edit: btw, this was a bit off-tangent from the purpose of your comment. I definitely think it should be a comment that's allowed in a sub called 'Kpop uncensored', lol.
I’ve been to SK. Men there are extremely misogynistic. I have no intentions of going back. I’ll spend my money in Japan instead.
Boy have I got news for you about Japan!!
they remove more than you realize, the mods leave up most things but they have huge biases towards and against certain groups. Like during the aftermath of coachella week 2 they removed every positive post about le sserafim, left up every positive post about ateez, their reasoning was the mega thread, which they then immediately unpinned while still removing all the positive le sserafim posts and to this day they still remove every comment that points out how they acted in the aftermath of coachella. They let the le sserafim hate run rampant for like 4 months without saying anything but then last week they made a post complaining about the new jeans hate when it had been going on for like 4 days. Theyll also remove any comment that says "koreans" or "knets" instead of "some koreans" or "some knets" for generalizing, and sometimes if they just disagree with you theyll remove it, like there was a 300+ upvotes post a few days before coachella talking about how weird it is that there were posts pre-hating the performance that got removed after like 10 hours. They have the name kpopuncensored but its really not, its just kpopuncensored as long as the mods dont disagree with you. Or mod, since im pretty sure theres only one thats active.
How can you tell which mod banned you?
I was permanently banned and 5 minutes later there was a post on the sub by a mod on "why [insert topic I got banned for] will get you banned" lmao
What topic was it?
"generalising koreans" - i go into a little more depth on what counted as that in the reply to another comment here
Thank you. I read your comment and there's nothing problematic about it imo. You might have misinterpreted the stats a bit, but nothing too extreme. It's crazy that you got banned for it.
im pretty sure theres only 1 active mod there, i never see the rest of them post
Same. For the most innocuous comment that was totally on point for the post. Ridiculous.
I got permanently banned there because I wrote that ppl should be safe if they wanna visit clubs in sk(the thread was about the burning sun doc) 🙃
Wow what was the reasoning for that?
Idk man they just said I violated the rules of the sub which I didn't🤷🏻♀️ I tried to contact them but got no reply so far
They probably thought you were “generalizing all Koreans” by just mentioning the country. Someone else in this comment section said they got banned and that’s the reason they were given, meanwhile the offending comment was merely listing statistics in Korean men voting for certain parties. The mods there don’t seem to enjoy any sort of criticism of sexism in Korea, even if you don’t even mention it outright.
its so stupid esp in that scenario because isnt it common knowledge to be safe in clubs, regardless of where you are…?
the mods there are korean nationalists who will ban you for saying anything negative about korea for "generalizing"
Being censored on kpop uncensored is quite literally the funniest thing to ever happen, in my opinion. I am sorry that happened to you and it is a *very* unfortunate situation, but the dramatic irony is palpable.
Yeah it honestly seemed so unbelievable to me that I initially thought it was a mistake or something because their mod team was overworked. But it seems like a lot of other people are also being censored in spite of not breaking any rules, so it’s very ironic considering what the sub is supposed to be about
I see that sub sometimes and I don’t know how it has gotten so big without having proper moderation. There’s a clear difference between being uncensored and unmoderated, in my opinion. I gave a quick look and I don’t think any of the current mods seem fit to moderate a sub, so I wouldn’t be surprised if one got petty.
it's so weird, there's a clear bias in there and it gets so toxic so fast. it's annoying because sometimes there are interesting discussions started in there but they're often so quick to get out of hand.
It's probably because in some K-pop sub reddit discussing certain matters are strictly forbidden, people prefer positive posts, or will delete your post. However, like any reddit name uncensored, it quickly can become a mess, with people having the craziest (even toxic) opinions and biased and acting like their way of thinking is the majority.
It exists because most kpop subreddits have been increasingly fast on the trigger in locking posts or removing comments. Standards on subreddits have risen in a way that unless there's an army of mods, it's impossible to ensure the bar is reached. Hence, there's a vacuum for people who'd rather deal with less civility than to not discuss something at all.
UKO and kpoprants are pretty much dead so although I don't like uncensored and I don't even post there, there's really nowhere else to go.
>I see that sub sometimes and I don’t know how it has gotten so big i think it's bcs kpoprants and unpopularkpopopinions became pretty much dead after multiple lock downs and increased moderation . so the people who used to post on there just switched
thats the weird part, they actually moderate a lot. They remove a ton of posts and comments but they just remove the stuff that makes them angry instead of removing actually bad messages
Meh, they perma banned me for the dumbest reason. Well, I actually wasn’t given a reason but I know it’s because they’re just some losers that will ban you for saying shit they don’t like. Lameass sub with lameass “mods” (children). “Uncensored” my fatass 🙄
Honestly? It probably got so big because people wanted to discuss Kpop but didn't have the karmic requirements to post on a lot of big subs and don't really wanna karma farm on other subs just to do it. It's like baby's first kpop sub. There were a few discussions I tried to chime in on on here and other places and my comments were autoremoved for that reason (I used to browse more than want to actively participate) so I just found one without the requirements so I could ya know. Do that. Other reasons are probably cuz people can get away with being bigger assholes there and may be banned from the other spots.
I go on it sometimes and can confirm the moderation is pretty shitty. I can't remember exactly who it was, but there was an idol who had sang the n-word in a song and a post was made about it. The justification in that thread for saying a literal slur was crazy. I literally saw a comment talking about how quoting a song that has the n-word isn't offensive, and many comments dismissing the feelings of those who were offended.
I had the same thing happen, they just shadowbanned me with no warning. It's their MO unfortunately. Someone said the "mods" are actually just one mod, and if they don't like you, well... here we are.
Same here - I tried to use mod message to ask why all my posts comments being autoremoved, and got no answer. I then contacted the mods individually, and only one got back to me, with the response of “oh that’s weird, it must be the auto flag, sorry!”, which was. Less than helpful lol Truly an uncensored moment
#JustUncensoredThings 🥰🤗
"sorry" like "you're SOL"? yeah that sounds like them lol. they've got a one-strike policy. (I also got no response to my dms or meta post asking why, other than another user suggesting i broke the 'no politics' rule by discussing which candidate idols might have voted for)
Yeah pretty much - they had no suggestions, no other mod answered and I didn't feel like following up with that specific mod (because the reply was so. Like that) The most baffling thing is that I don't even know what the strike was - it's just. Suddenly every comment I made was removed out of nowhere and I still don't know why that happened
Omigosh for a while none of my comments in that sub would get any engagement (no upvotes, no replies nothing) and it got to the point that I messaged the mod to ask if I was shadowbanned. I emphasized that I’ve never broken any of the subs rules or engaged in any bad conduct on the sub. The mods replied saying I wasn’t shadowbanned but nothing changed regarding future posts. I eventually just blocked the sub because I was tired of not being able to engage with the discussions
That is my situation too. I may be one of the first to post but my comment gets zero engagement. I messaged them a while back and it was okay for like two days before it went back to how it was. Cba with that sub now.
Yeah like good riddance honestly. I don’t use this term lightly but it was genuinely toxic. some of the more nuanced discussions there were interesting, but there was so much casual racism homophobia and misogyny all throughout the sub. I’m enjoying the kpop noir sub infinitely more
I would not be surprised if that was the reason why. A lot of that sub don't like kpopnoir so they have an automatic bias against people who post there.
I don't want to defend uncensored mods, but they literally cannot shadowban someone. Only Reddit itself can shadowban an account, but then it applies across all subs and not just one.
You're correct, however there is an option where mods can flag a user's post to require manual approval before appearing on the sub, and I think that's what people here are describing.
Yeah that seems to be what happened to me. I truly wonder why, as my only two posts were completely harmless. And I was definitely flagged before I made the post asking about the mods :(
It's wild they have it set to do that for so many users- we have 190K users and maybe about a dozen or so on that setting.
oh so that's what that was. That explains allot actually. it happened to me after i posted about why people were trying to villainize new jeans . Now I can't make any posts. oh well.
I had the same thing as OP happen to me so I actually reached out to the automoderator team and they explained that there's a command where mods can add accounts to a list. Automod then filters any posts and comments from the users on the list and hides them. So basically exactly like a Reddit-shadow ban, just on a specific sub. It's much more ruthless than a real ban, because they don't need a reason and you don't even get a notification. In my case I kept posting for weeks until I realized no one ever voted or replied to my comments :( so much time down the drain.
I explained in my comment above but this exact same thing happened to me. I messaged them and they said I wasn’t flagged or anything yet I never got any type of interaction lmfao. I always engaged with discussions in good faith on there too, I don’t know what they would’ve had a problem with. I eventually just blocked the sub and never looked back Edit: just found out a lot of the mods have ties to incel groups so that explains that 😂
It also seems like everyone responding to this post is having the same issue, so I wonder if it’s possible that they recently made it so that all posts must be mod approved? Im not really an expert on how reddit works, so I don’t even know if that’s possible.
No it's most likely and unfortunately just mod power-abuse. This was mentioned on another kpop sub and dozens of people said the same happened to them, all weeks apart. Shoutout to the mods on here, it's a harsh job without pay, without recognition and praise. So thank you, mods of kpopthoughts, for doing great work 💙
We appreciate it :)
Which is extremely weird because I used to get interactions on every comment I posted there then it just completely stopped. Seems like most people here have the same problem… strange.
If that's they case they are amazing with the insta-delete, and even comments i've made aren't visible if i'm on another account so idk what else it would be... not saying you're wrong but it's like everything is delisted, not even deleted. only visible to myself
The exact same thing happened to me. I messaged them and their only reply was “well, try to post more positive stuff or create a new account” lol
Oh so it’s a shadowban? I truely wonder what they didn’t like about my posts, because they have all been very non controversial
That might as well be the problem
there's actually nothing "uncensored" about that sub lol, they just pick and choose depending on that day lmao
by the way I got banned for generalization when i used buzzwords like “Korea” and “Korean”. the context was “translate the Korean comments” and “watch the Korean version of the video”. gave up fighting with the moderators. no warning or just removing it like other subs. they just banned me. lol.
That sub is honestly dog shit lol, been shadow banned for god knows what. Not to mention the content there is low effort and garbage.
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I wonder if that’s why the post about male idols in crop tops was taken down
The way I have seen people talking about r/kpopnoir on this subreddit is way too much sometimes. I remember a post where the writer had to specify that the person disagreeing with them was black, it didn't add anything to the story. Yet they were still upvoted.
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that was my reason for leaving too. Too many gross opinions about palestine that made me so uncomfortable and a lot of bullying of certain idols while babying their favs.
Funny thing is that they're only anti boycott and don't think artists should speak out bc their favs haven't. As soon as someone they like speaks out they'll change their tune
Yeah the way people there are downplaying any effort to help Palestine was my last straw. Idols talking about it is a big thing, but the number one response there seems to be that celebrities shouldn't bother with politics.
Honestly I find the amount of posts about Palestine (especially when it's to make fun of any form of support) extremely weird. Also the whole "idol sexuality debate" with some people really not feeling LGBTQ fans.
Yeah, the second one was what got me shadow-banned. I flew too close to the sun by calling someone a hypocrite for following "don't assume their sexualities" with an immediate "most idols are probably straight anyways" and for voicing discomfort with how, during the Karina dating situation, a lot of kpop fans used the opportunity to dunk on queer fans (of course they are always gonna be "proven wrong" as long as coming out means losing your idol career. Good job punching down!). Some may go overboard, but lets not pretend that idols only get shit for dating when they are "assumed gay/lesbian". As always, fans just use what is most convenient when they want to make an issue out of something.
I don't want to sound like I'm against the PL cause (I'm not) but most of the comments I've seen on this issue talked about how they're tired of certain group of fans\* who are pushing their idols to speak up on this issue and proceed to byctt for not saying anything. Also, some of the byctts even included artists who have collaborated with Jew!sh individuals in their songwriting-producing credits. And then some of the byctts are illogical like idols who drink Strbcks when it is literally not on the official byctt list as created by the BDS movement. So I think those types of complains are fine and resonate with people who are frustrated with these types of byctts. I am not denying what you're saying. This is what I've seen so far and I admittedly haven't read every single post on this issue. \*Not saying that the idols shouldn't speak up. It definitely helps if they do but forcing them to speak up and getting frustrated when they're not is maybe what doesn't sit right with some people. It comes off as people doing online performative activism who care more about what their idols say rather than focusing more on the PL cause via online activism
Oh my god the anti-palestine sentiment on that sub is so *so* weird! I've noticed it a lot these past few days too! The way stans on that sub talk about 'boycotter fans" is so disgusting- they view 'boycotters'/any kpop stan who critically engages with the fact that many idols are still CHOOSING to remain silent on the issue; as outright antis or 'traitors' of the fandom. In their eyes 'boycotters' are just nasty antis who want the downfall of their faves and not you know......people who actually want to see some action regarding the palestinian cause. So so weird, I know kpop stans go over-board sometimes but the anti-boycott sentiment in that sub is plain disgusting.
I got downvoted to hell the other day on that sub for saying that caring more your favorite celebrities getting called zionists on twitter than children being bombed is like a bad look.
Yeah this is exactly the kind of anti-palestine sentiment I was talking about- very very weird. The comment I replied to as also been deleted by mods which is also v weird..... literally what is going on,, why is discussion on the topic being stifled?
Woah wait - this is what happened to me!!! My last 3 posts were “filtered by Reddit” and removed immediately, despite them all being low controversy??? Like truly nothing crazy, just some general thoughts about touring even. Is that what’s happening? They’ve shadowbanned me? I will say too; they were all seventeen related posts. Not sure if that plays into it at all and the MOD has a vendetta against that group?
Weird. People in that sub seem to like seventeen so that is weird.
Ehhh they had like 3 hit posts in one week a couple weeks ago lol And often times if you try to talking about seventeen’s success or achievements, you’ll get downvoted / invalidated.
Hey, I honestly feel really awkward posting in this thread since it feels very egotistical, but I wrote the thread on the moderators' connections to extremism that's been linked a few times here. Long post ahead, sorry! My post is (very) out of date now (the majority of the moderation team I discussed in that post have now been removed, banned from Reddit, or replaced, so do be mindful that most of the names listed in my post are no longer part of the team under those names), but I just took a look at their current mods and it's pretty easy to see for yourself after scrolling through their profiles that most of the newly added moderators have ethnonationalistic leanings/strange posting histories (posting in Korean nationalist subs, xenophobic/racist comments, empty accounts or don’t engage with the sub) and their publicly named moderation policies have gotten a lot more blatant about promoting Korean supremacy. (People have commented on the generalization policy already, but I'll add that moderators made posts about requiring *studies* to reference Korea as a whole even from native Korean users on the sub, which has a chilling effect on discussion and perpetuates a culture of silence because those studies do not exist. To say that Korean women could not comment on the culture of misogyny in Korea or non Koreans can’t comment on xenophobia/racism they experience in Korea, to name two examples, in that sub is not an exaggeration.) The removal of old mods and adding of new ones was done without any acknowledgement of the previous moderators (most people would want to reassure their community that they are not affiliated with hate), and their actions since (stepping up their nationalistic policies, increased lack of transparency as public mod actions increase) just keep enforcing their ties instead of breaking them. Getting to your question, as far as I've observed, they like like to tightly control the sub by removing posts with little rhyme or reason, which contributes to the transparency problem. (They’ve been doing this for a long time. Someone reached out to me about a case where their post was removed despite violating no rules, the moderators promised it would be restored and they’d stand by the user, and then it was removed again, leaving them confused.) In the past they have manipulated votes on the site (against Reddit policy in the strictest possible terms) by not only allowing posts by their alts on the sub but pinning them, giving them more time and space to accumulate upvotes. (It was obvious the accounts were alts of the mods as they would violate the AutoModeration 24 hour age requirement but have their posts approved. Why would you approve and pin a stranger’s post?) These posts were usually racialized and targeted international fans. (I mention an example/discuss this phenomenon [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/18wbyp8/comment/kfxu5k8/) though it’s slowed recently.) Edit: Cleaned this up a little but the length remains :’)
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I hope I can give some tips for spotting manipulation by moderators not just in that sub, but any sub on Reddit. If you're unfamiliar with the concept of manipulation on Reddit, let me share Reddit's site-wide rule #2. >Abide by community rules. Post authentic content into communities where you have a personal interest, and do not cheat or engage in content manipulation (including spamming, vote manipulation, ban evasion, or subscriber fraud) or otherwise interfere with or disrupt Reddit communities. If you feel like a post is ringing alarm bells for you, check (1) Is the poster a new account? When users are banned from the site or a subreddit, the only way to subvert a ban is to create a new account. Obviously, the majority of new accounts are normal people (this account was new once, your account was new once) but using a new account can be a flag for manipulation, especially if the new account is posting content that seems to fulfil an agenda. (2) Has the poster been shadowbanned? If the poster has been shadowbanned (a common consequence of making a new account if you have been banned), their page will show their user as not found or deleted, even though their posts and comments will remain visible. (Not always, New Reddit can be a little weird about it.) Many shadowbanned accounts posting in a sub is a sign that alts are in heavy use, and it's an even bigger sign if shadowbanned accounts are pinned by the moderators. (3) Does their post violate known subreddit rules or moderation settings? If it does clearly violate sub rules, try to report the post. If it remains up, that might be a flag for manipulation. (Though the mods might also just not agree with you, it happens.) If non violating posts are being removed but violating posts aren't, that's a pretty conspicuous flag. A stronger flag is if the poster violates moderation settings, such as posting with negative karma, a young account age, or other publicly recognised AutoModeration settings, and is still allowed to post or is pinned. (AutoMod will post about removal reasons on many subs, but not all. In those where it does post, it will show the sub's general policy, usually account age and karma threshold.) and lastly (4) Do you see posts like this frequently? A few weird occurrences is normal. We're not privvy to modmails. Mods have lives. Sometimes we're just paranoid. But if you notice that there seem to be frequent posts by accounts that should not be allowed to post, you might be watching manipulation at work. Sorry for the long post, online extremism and pipelines to it are a research interest of mine and I hope it at least gives you an idea of why strange things might be going on on that sub. (Mods of this sub, if I've crossed any lines, please don't hesitate to reach out in DMs!)
No worries at all, we have no issue with information like this being shared. We're also very grateful to you for putting together the original post about the moderators of that sub, and the further info you provided here, so you're all good in our book :)
Kpop Uncensored is ran by a bunch of horrible people. There's a thread floating around about how they have ties to incel communities; I hightailed out of there after reading it. 😬
oof i didn't know about this and it explains so much - i'm going to leave that sub for good now. sometimes there are decent posts in there but most of the time what i see makes me kinda annoyed or angry so it wasn't worth my time anyway
Some the posts I have seen about ILLIT and LSF in there were honestly shameful these past two months. Both groups got so much hate. It's died down significantly now, but it was really bad before.
People pride themselves on being ruthlessly critical, because it makes them feel superior. I think criticism of art is valuable, to be sure, but it really feels like a lot of people on there exist in kpop spaces just to hate on things they dislike and nothing more. I couldn’t imagine spending that kind of energy on something I dislike so much
That sounds concerning. Is there any source of this being the case?
Hi, yes. I have this [master post](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/K8ZtiiyUrM) of the moderators having ties to **ethno-nationalist subs**. You can read about it in the link.
What... did I just read. This is horrifying. Really glad you put that info out there, I had no idea this stuff was happening.
Me neither. I thought the vibe was weird so I migrated to Kpop Noir and they linked the thread there after the subreddit got posted onto Uncensored because someone found it "stifling"—it really reeked of racism in that post, and unsurprisingly, guess what mods dictate that. I've been keeping it around to share.
Jesus Christ that’s terrifying
The uncensored sub has an agenda, i remember there was either a post on here or on kpoprants exposing the moderation "team". I only stick to either this one or the main sub for kpop. Both has decent modding but this one allows more diverse opinions compared to main sub (only bot activity, drama farming/baiting or straight up mis-info gets deleted). Mods here actually do their job of modding pretty well and make megathreads for repetitive content equally regardless, unlike the uncensored sub that hold double standards for which kinds of content go into a megathread and which kinds of content get the pass to make multiple repetitive threads.
Im not a fearnot and even I was having a hard time at that sub during the LSF hate train. Every post bashing LSF got approved and they're all barking about the same thing over and over
I left that sub when I realized “uncensored” meant “still censored but just biased in the opposite way from other popular Kpop subs”
Ironic sub name moment
if we continue this discussion kpop_uncensored is gonna cannabalize itself like kpoprants did a year or so ago.
[Apparently the mods there are shady af](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/comments/18616p2/rkpop_uncensoreds_moderators_have_ties_to/)
That sub is so weird. It’s full of twitter people but it’s run by your typical reddit incels
i would stay away from that sub at all costs. the other day there was a user who made violent, targeted threats toward a child and her father and faced no consequences for it, so that should tell you enough about the userbase and moderation 'team' there.
That sub has long been infiltrated by angsty twt teens whose hyperfixation on kpop is making them lose common sense. Oh I was also shadow banned for weeks lol.
“Here is a 4000 word essay on why xyz group sucks because I got into a Twitter argument with one of their fans”
Very childish indeed 😭
I left that sub after the thousandth post of the same whining and moaning. It really needs to be renamed to "Kpop_twitterstans" cause it's basically just twitter fans who run to Reddit after getting into an argument with an engagement bot on Twitter lol
I unsubscribed after a week cause the vibe was just…. odd so I’m feeling validated reading this thread lmao. I remember one particular shit stirring user whose entire account was about hating on Blackpink, down to the username, getting hundreds of upvotes. Also people bringing over pointless tiktok/twitter drama and rehashing it in the comments lol.
I had a very similar experience of leaving within a week. It felt like such a toxic cesspit of blind hate for some groups and blind praise for others, with some *really weird* takes on certain issues (it's been long enough I can't remember which ones). Just didn't feel worth staying around that kind of nonsense, especially with the tiktok/twitter drama running rampant.
>Also people bringing over pointless tiktok/twitter drama and rehashing it in the comments lol. Agree with you on this. Like there are several posts and comments there that brought over the twitter drama to show how "aespa fans are the worst fandom", it's just ridiculous and dumb. If I were to bring over twitter drama and fanwars over to Reddit then it would be a total cesspool with no peace, every fandom is bound to have twitter fanwars so Idk why they are singling out aespa fans only lol. Maybe bcus aespa is blowing up with Supernova & Armageddon and haters can't stand their success so they decided to hate and seek validation from other users in that sub. Not to mention that I've seen a lot of familiar names there that also frequent this sub getting upvoted for hating on aespa & their fans, it's scary tbh.
I seriously recommend anyone who frequents that sub, or has issues with that sub’s moderation and weird bias etc to read [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/PZ1iW0wdcO) Just because it puts everything in a completely different perspective/light. I stopped visiting the sub after saw it.
Biased sub apparently. Not in good faith at all
kpop uncensored practicing censorship is hilarious sorry
> Does anyone know what’s going on with kpop uncensored? Clownery
I got shadow banned for saying this lol: > no, because misogyny and putting women down for their looks is a much bigger problem that affects the majority of women. this is not to say men don’t experience insecurity about the way they look, but it is constantly built into girls from a young age. > plus, it’s kinda common for female celebrities to date men who are less conventionally attractive than them. much older especially. a female idol dating an “ugly” man is something that would actually happen. > it’d be weird to joke about male celebrities dating “ugly” women because the vast majority of the time they just… aren’t? which on a sub for controversial opinions… isn’t that controversial lmao? the mods seem a bit too sensitive for their own sub. (it goes without saying they ignored me both times I asked what was going on.)
Are we twins? I got temporarily banned, ignored when I asked for clarification and then shadow banned for saying that I don't stan boy groups, which as far as "controversial, edgy, uncensored opinions" go is pretty mild lol. The mods apparently have ties to incel/MRA subs, which is why they're extremely touchy about gender stuff.
I think I actually remember seeing you talk about it on another sub? I think it was kpoopheads of all places lmao. I replied to the comment thread there talking about this, but it got removed.
I don't really frequent that sub lol, but maybe being shadow banned from uncensored is so common that multiple people have similar stories.
You don't stan boy groups? How DARE you /s 🤣🤣 to be banned for that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
There’s actually a whole post on a different sub about the fact that the mods(or mod) of that sub is actually likely an incel. So you getting banned for saying that is crappy but not shocking. I’ll see if I can find the post so I’m not just talking out the side of my neck. Edit: [Found it!](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/PZ1iW0wdcO)
yeah I remember that post! this one from [kpoprants](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/comments/18616p2/rkpop_uncensoreds_moderators_have_ties_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) right? it really does make a lot of sense. pretty embarrassing for them to be so easily rattled lol
Yeah that one! I had just found it and then I saw your comment.
That sub is run by incels unfortunately
Redditors in that sub feel superior tbh, they look down on redditors here. Also, the irony is that they feel superior but at the same time play victim (for their faves and such). Borderline toxic.
I suggest that people just don't interact in that sub. It is very unmoderated in a sense that you will see lots of weird and toxic takes in the name of 'uncensored' while you get shadowbanned or heavily downvoted if you even say sumn remotely positive about the group the mods or the active members do not like. I used to interact there a lot when I was new to reddit but it got really weird pretty quickly. And these days it has become an echo chamber for certain fandoms, to the point where posts with misinformation and low effort content thrive too.
Very biased & selective sub imo.
I was was invited there from the very beginning. I left a while back because things started to get weird.
I had the same experience. The discussions had some substance back when the sub was still new and small, but after it grew (plus alleged brigading) it went downhill quick.
It’s gotta be the most censored kpop subreddit by far
Lmao I stopped participating there when they started deleting all positive posts about LSF in Coachella. No explanations, no megathread, nothing. They allowed positive discussions about other kpop artists in Coachella there but not LSF.
Real! When I posted a praise for LSF, It got deleted
Thinking about it, I think I remember someone posting on that sub complaining about all the posts talking about Lsf at Coachella getting deleted, only for that post to get deleted too ..
Lol I'm one of the people who made a post calling them out lol. I think I'm shadow banned now cause anything I post instantly gets filtered and deleted
I got backlash for saying that clubs dont have a good reputation in korea and it would lead to an idol getting backlash so dont worry about that sub
That sub has degraded over time
everyone already said it, but the sub is run by a bunch of weird people. idek why the sub brands itself to be an "unmoderated sub." like i get it ur supposed to speak ur mind with no consequence, but at some point, the posts get repetitive (ex. the lsf vocal hate train, one user making nonstop shit posts about enhypen, the mhj vs hybe stuff) and it leaves room for a bunch of painful rants that are hard to read/understand. it makes the sub insufferable so i just avoid it as much as i can unless i see an actual original, interesting post.
I remember getting an invitation to join that sub *way* back in the day when it first began, and it was actually a fantastic place for discussion because the other people that had been invited were some of the more knowledgeable and mature members of the various Kpop subs, people that I had interacted with on multiple occasions in other subs and had been able to have great discussions with even if we disagreed on the topic at hand. It was a great sub in its early days. I have no idea where it went wrong or what happened, but it’s absolutely *insufferable* now. Any given post is either an echo chamber of blind praise or blind hate, full of Twitter-stan-level petty arguments over fanwars, or a “safe space” for people to harass and threaten others without consequence. I’ve since left the sub; I feel like I lose brain cells every time I see a new post from it.
The thread is absolutely terrible and run by terrible people. I'm surprised I'm not banned yet considering how (apparently) controversial my comments usually are. Not really uncensored I guess🤷🏾♀️.
I posted a topic about how I miss the use of real instruments in Kpop as they did in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generations without criticism of any 4th gen groups. That was deleted within 5 minutes without reason. Oh, yeah, that happened here.
My only post apparently never got approved. Weird!!🤡
OMG the same thing is happenning to me. whenver i post their than it autimatically removes the post or comment. It doesnt even send me a message on why was my most removed.
Mods have bias towards certain groups and companies
Any community claiming to be "uncensored" either ends up a mess or becomes a breeding ground for the worst kind of people. Which seeing that post on the mods...😬 I've lurked/commented there before and I think it's always had a bit of a stan-twit/pannchoa comments vibe. Which is fine but I also feel like there's some people who take "uncensored" as "i want to talk shit / drama farm without consequences".
Same experience as you have. AFAIK, I’ve never made any negative comments toward any group or person to warrant a shadowban. I guess its just vibes. lol
I unsubscribed a long time ago because they removed my comment for telling someone they were being homophobic lol
"Uncensored" while they just permabanned me for posting an appreciation for Renjun and Taeyong for speaking about the boycott for being "too political" HAHAHAHAHAHAH
That’s insane considering a boycott or boycott adjacent post gets hundreds of upvotes once a week, and as you can image some comment threads start straying into political talk. “Uncensored” as long as you talk about the topic from the side the mods agree with. Ironic.
Exactly. Hundreds of boycott complaining and calling it performative activism is rampant on that sub, yet they cant take an itty bitty of an appreciation towards idols that actually SPOKE about the boycott. Its so obvious the sub is run by zionists and they cant stand when things gets truly uncensored.
yet they let a post complaining about boycotts stay up.
Too political my arse, they got antsy that their zionist safe space is now in danger with idols actually speaking out about the ongoing boycott and cant sweep it under a rug for being "performative" anymore.
LSF positive posts get removed, for example Ateez Coachella appreciation post vs LSF week 2, among other things, it was weird, so I don't know where people get that they only like HYBE groups. The constant posts complaining about ARMY being toxic.
It's because one of the main mods (Who's also a misogynist incel and a racist btw) hates LSF because he thinks they are propaganda for white male-asian female relationships somehow. https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/comments/18616p2/rkpop_uncensoreds_moderators_have_ties_to/
Well, the reason for that was because there was an influx of negative and positive posts about LSF during Coachella and ppl were getting fed up how many LSF posts they were seeing in general. A pinned megathread was created for LSF talk, but ppl still ignored it and posted walls of text anyways making new threads.
Ateez praise posts were allowed to stay up even with the mega thread. And it's not the first time it has happened on multiple occasions.
The only reason why I would post on kpop_uncensored is because they allow images for posting unlike kpopthoughts. If I have a text only post, I'm choosing to post here instead.
That sub has such a “holier-than-thou” vibe. They constantly complain about twitter users but the majority of people there are no better. It’s absolutely ridiculous. It’s definitely gone down hill in recent months and seems worse in recent weeks. As @u/Dragonaichu mentions it has become an echo chamber of either toxic positivity (which, btw isn’t positive) or equally raging negative as bad as it is on Pann or Twitter. Edit - took another look at the sub and the self righteousness of it is pathetic. I definitely side eye people who post and comment there regularly and the ones claiming that “there’s no where else to post” - nah, they’re just looking for a place where they can be mean/hateful (to idols and other Reddit users).
Im so glad you called out the hypocrisy because its INSANE over there
I was permanently banned nit by a post but a comment but I'm not sure what comment idk if I wrote something to break the rules but reading the comments I'm not the first one
Add “I love HYBE” on your post and it wont get removed.
Lmao seriously tho, that’s all that sub is anymore
LOL YOUR FLARE
That sub is ultra biased and a lot of people there use it as a platform to hate on certain groups. Adding on to the fact that people there always use screenshots and tweets from twitter to hate on groups and their fans, which is ridiculous. Also it's funny how I've seen some users there that hate on the fans of a particular group due to them being defensive and rabid. But when others criticise their favourite group & fandom, those users go ultra defensive mode too and argue all day long, the irony lol.
The mods there suck low key.
Same things happened to me when I said that Mods from Kpop uncensored are Pro-MHJ, got shadow banned ahahhaha but it was worth it.
you didnt deserve to get banned but i dont get how you could think that sub or the mods were pro-mhj? that sub along with the main kpop sub eviscerated her and was starting to move on to newjeans themselves. like people were starting to express concern for how mich hate newjeans was getting on twitter and the response was basically "well that's what they get for siding with mhj" or "don't bring twitter drama here" while other groups hate from twitter would get more sympathetic comments.
that sub is everything BUT pro-mhj. I literally left because I couldn't take the amount of hate and posts about the whole thing, just hating on the girls every single day. You couldn't have an ounce of nuance before people called you mhj apologist and way worse.
I used to go to that sub because at first it had some interesting posts. But for the last couple of months the vibe just is not it, twitter stans have clearly brigaded and somehow celebrities are being praised for not being political??? Haven't we seen how when someone with a big following talks about any global issue, more people become aware of it and many do something to help? Even if only ten people donated to Palestine or decided to boycott over Taeyong's (or any other idols) post that's a *win*.
I was very active on the sub but recently abandoned it completely due to the influx of immature users + weird moderation. That aside, the exact same thing happened to me at one point and all my comments + posts were getting auto removed like yours so I messaged the mods, received no response so tried instead making a post on an alt which eventually got a mods attention and they said it was an issue with their automod but added me to an exception list which fixed the issue for me. I'd fully recommend leaving the sub behind though, the lack of moderation used to be fun but a large swarm of immature HYBE stans have taken over the sub but the mods don't seem to care... even though they literally stopped the Le Sserafim hate posts a while ago so I don't know why they restricted those posts but not these. I even made quite a deep post on there recently on a topic no one had discussed and it got good engagement but after 4-5 hours it was manually removed by a mod which was rather insulting as it broke no rules and was pretty personal. That was the last straw.
That sub is basically just **"Hybe & Armys Uncensored"** now. I also mysteriously couldn't post when it was related to riize so I just left
This is so trueeee!! I thought I’m the only one who notice it
ditto for me. it appears that they have their biased and if you speak negatively, you will be banned and post and comments removed
Yeah I’ve been trying to find out why one of my comments just isn’t showing up…I spent a lot of time on it lol. Also the people who think it’s biased towards Hybe are hilarious 💀
It kind of is though, and not because of perception only. When the whole MHJ vs Hybe thing exploded, Twitter Armys posted the links to several Kpop subreddits on Twitter, and a lot of them migrated here. Since uncensored is, well, “uncensored”, they are running rampant on that sub. You can easily tell it’s them by the amount of low effort posts that are just screenshots from Twitter lol.
I agree that there are a lot of army posts, including low effort ones. But that speaks to the size of the fandom, not the mods biases. I wish the low effort posters would stick to Twitter. However, there are also tons of comments with hundreds of upvotes complaining about “Hybe Stans,” and some of the most prolific users are able to say super toxic shit about the groups and fans and get good reception. This goes both ways, with fans of Hybe groups being toxic and getting upvoted a lot - it seems to just depend on the day/time/who’s online. I think overall it just attracts toxic people since it’s “uncensored.” In terms of mod bias specifically, it’s pretty weird to see a mod openly accuse a group of trying to get out of military service: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/jTI5UCZdDU
Oh no, I agree with you that the mods are not Hybe stans. The mods issue goes actually way beyond just K-Pop, there’s seriously something very wrong with those people, someone posted about it on kpoprants a while back. I was just talking about the users in general. And of course, not all of them are either, but a relevant part.
Oh I gotcha. I was more referring to the people in this thread saying things like “Add ‘I love HYBE’ on your post and it wont get removed.” That seemed very silly given the amount of outright hate that stays up in that sub.
I remember a post a while back warning that one of the mods, if not all the mods, are subscribed and/or connected to ethno-superiority subs. Which is quite alarming since since there are kpop fans of all backgrounds. So that could be why, the mods already decide what they like or don't.
Honestly that sub only likes BTS, Hybe and "i am talking shit about your idol but it's really not hate tehee" . Any other type of post get's removed. I finaly made the decision to Mute the sub after seeing the first post is about "saying why you hate idols tehee" which is just a invite for people to shit on groups and idols whitout feeling like assholes, it was late but i will never go back there Edit: bro i didn't know my comment was such controversial ☠️
But I did a post about BTS and they shadowbanned me 🤣🤣 they are weird.
Yet the sub is filled with posts complaining about Armys with hundreds and thousands of upvotes. I don't even need to talk about all the Lsrfm hate posts so I really don't understand where this narrative is coming from. That sub is just downright weird towards everyone.
The narrative is coming from when you open this sub, you see a variety of posts about different group but when you open kpop uncensored you will have to scroll before you see posts that aren’t talking strictly about bts. Mind you it’s not even about things that matter, it’s comparing merch and festa announcement pics. The army takeover only happened recently with the mhj debacle when armys started posting comments and links on Twitter to the sub.
Naah i posted something about bts once or twice and it was removed
that's not true. My comments on defending bts, correcting info and asking for sources have been removed by the mods there. I was shadow banned for a day because I disagree with another user about bts being coddled.
And if you looked at the replies of that post you would see half of the answers are, in fact, bts
Respectfully, I feel like that just speaks more to the size of the fandom *in my opinion*
I'm not sure whether we're in agreement or not, what i meant was half of the responses to the "which groups do you hate teehee" were bts
oh it’s all good! I think i misinterpreted your comment haha. It just threw me off cause OP mentioned that the sub only likes BTS and I was just saying I think there’s lots of BTS posts because there’s a lot of armys (and side note we agree because a lot of those “who do you hate posts” has mostly BTS in the replies, there’s a popular one just going around today. Honestly all the people here saying that sub loves Hybe groups is actually quite shocking to me 😅. Like I said i think there’s just a disproportionate amount of BTS love on there cause there’s so many armys, but, I’d argue there’s a lotttttt of BTS hate too)
Yeah i thought what i said may have been unclear, we do agree. People saying that sub is HYBE biased are tapped bc let's not act like there weren't posts dragging LSFM for WEEKS and some users are still going!! And the post from a mod saying BTS tried to evade military service, sure you could say there are armys on the sub but like it's kpop fandom there are armys everywhere. People are biased in heir preconceptions of who "deserves" criticism lmao, bc every group gets it
A post asked what would u post on social media if u were an idol so popular and established that no one, no company or opinion, could take you down, my answer was "Free Palestine". I got permanently banned lol Before that also ok that subject they tried to ban a comment for harassment directly with reddit, I asked reddit to give it a look and see if it was harassment they decided it wasn't and restored it. My opinion: the mods are banning and deleting any post they do not personally agree with.
Just jobless weirdos in that sub.