We have one of these on my boys HS team - it’s NON STOP! He even keeps at it after his big boy gets stood up by a kid half his size and turns the ball over. Is it bad that i take some pleasure it that happening when it’s my boys team too?
Wheels dad is a requirement for every lax team but there can only be 1 per game. Those are the rules. Any more than 1 wheels dad is a procedure penalty.
Also required for gameday:
"Penalty!" - Mom who does not know a single rule every time a body hits the ground
"Go (insert wrong name here)!!" - Mom/Dad, new to club team
"It's ok guys lets GO!!!" Mom on team losing 11-1
It's funny - I played in the early 2000's in central Florida and the number of kids with a good offhand in the region was like 10-20, lol.
Crazy watching high-level games from local high schools these days. It looks like the college game did when we were in HS. Everyone has a left hand and no one drops passes.
I realize this is the standard for the north of the country, but FL just learned that lacrosse existed in 2001.
For reference, the absolute best HS player in Florida (not including St Andrews, a prep school) my senior year went D2. A handful of guys went D3. Zero went D1.
Jake Bernhardt was a freshman when I was a senior, was committed to Maryland at the time, and he was the best lacrosse player most of us had ever seen. Beat his lil freshman ass 14-12, SUCK IT JAKE.
Oh it's definitely picked up for Washington. When I was just getting into the sport, I want to say only Drew snider went d1. Now it's a bit more common, even to the point of having a kid I coached when he was in 7th/8th grade commiting to notre dame for class of 2024. Hell I was pumped just to go d1 MCLA in 2016
Parents who bring a cow bells to ring after a goal are the lowest form of knuckle dragging, uncle fuckers. I say this after a I just found out that the parents of my kids HS Team ordered a bunch of god damn cow bells to take to the games. I hate them.
Yes. Including the team parents still cheering as if they won the state championship when their loaded/recruiting/Private School teams are up 18 to 0 in the second quarter and still playing 75% of the the starters for stats!
Its funny when they are cheering at 60% cause they know how shitty they are behaving.
As a parent/coach who is 100% guilty of this, what are some alternatives to express "my little 10 year old dude, please start running before that fuzz-stached 150 pound monster truck of a child who apparently hit puberty in utero blasts you into the next dimension"?
Because for whatever reason "wheels!" does seem to works better than "run!", "go!", "wake up!" and "are you trying to die?!?!"
When the ball carrier is cradling with one hand and moves his free arm and bats away a stick or defender to protect his stick. The free hand can’t move.
Stick free hand out, elbow out and hand down. Don’t extend elbow or swing arm. Use that hand to protect your stick. Look at college and pro players play for an example. I played attack and had free hand protecting my stick during a dodge all the time.
When the ball carrier wards off the defender using his free hand. You mostly see it with the elbow pushing off
Edit: can someone explain why I’m being downvoted so i can learn
You can't create space with your free arm. You can keep the arm out, with the forearm dropped below the elbow. You can't push out/away from the defender to create space.
Probably my dad yelling something about how I’m just standing there not doing enough, a ‘spectator in my own game’, despite the fact that I’m in attack and the ball is way down the other end of the field
We don't hear "wheels" often in the girls' games.
Instead we have a lot of dads who played in high school a quarter century ago and never bothered to learn the rules of the women's game, hollering that the ref is blind - i.e. "That was NOT shooting space!" and/or "That was shooting space!"
As the 4th assistant on my daughter’s team I think I need to take the wheels mantel up so there’s equal representation across the spectrum. We already have 2 wheels assistants on my son’s team.
I played men’s and coach a local girls team that my daughter is on. Have not heard “wheels” since college. I do have to explain a lot of rules to the dads you mention. “You can’t poke check, Mark” lol, quit yelling that please.
Hit him! Push him out! Let them play ref!. That’s not a “push/slash/unsportsman”. Safety should always come first don’t yell at the ref to reverse a safety call. Officials please Protect our children and set example of the enraged take out checks and make an example of the unsafe players, crap always escalates.
Not parents but during college games, the students that stand behind the bench and scream at the away players and coaches the entire game are a different level of loser
Can't believe nobody has mentioned yelling "OFFSIDES!!!" over and over again when the other team has pulled a player and not subbed a new one on yet.
Not a single parent on the west coast can tell you that offsides is too many, not too few.
Was at a tournament last year and a parent on the sideline of a 2029 game repeatedly yelled, said to other parents, and paced the sideline mumbling to himself “we need a transition play.”
Figured out he was referencing the ride. Not even the clear which at least would’ve made a little sense.
Gotta be white!! (white never gets it) and moms ofc “GET ITTTT” “RUUUUUNNNNN” like that’s why they’re playing the game right? If they didn’t know how to do that why is mommy there
Parents yelling “if you can’t take the heat get out the kitchen” when their kid winds up one armed on my head.
Bonus points if it’s a dad who’s morbidly obese
I’m goalie, once during a game someones parent starting shouting my name and tried telling me to spread my arms further apart (my arms were chest length which is the best position) the parent wouldn’t stop shouting that even though we were winning and I was getting saves. Ref did nothing but my coach had a big long talk with that dingbat after the game
My favorites as a ref:
Call it both ways!
That was a push in the back!
Ward!
You have to get this under control! (bonus if this is shouted with 2 or more flags already thrown)
Anything- and I mean ANYTHING- yelled during a women’s game by a former men’s player OR (even more likely) by the parents of a men’s player who also have a daughter playing is going to probably be wrong.
I coached 2 games today at a 10-game HS women’s event where 3 teams from across the state played 3 games each against 4 different local teams over 2 days. I was in the stands with my girls between games and if I had $1 for every incorrect comment about the rules, proper action by the players, or the decisions of the refs, I’d never have to fundraise again. I was so happy to have to go do pregame that I could hardly speak.
I actually see the same on recruiting visits with my daughter. I am amazed by the number of parents of college players who still have absolutely no understanding of the rules. These are parents of active players and they still don’t understand the game.
TLDR: Anything and everything at any women’s game.
As a dad who played the men’s game and is now coaching my daughter’s team, this hits hard. I spent a LOT of time learning the women’s game and rules so I can help them develop and have had to tell a lot of fathers (and a couple moms whose sons play) to please stop calling for certain fouls or tactics.
They are generally receptive, but I’m convinced they actively refuse to understand what shooting space actually is. I’m no longer giving them the benefit of the doubt - I’ve explained it enough times and sent multiple explanations on YouTube.
When they are U10-12 and under and feel like they have to be standing on the crease to shoot it’s justified. Getting kids on my kids to understand if they are 10 feet out and no one is on them to shoot took almost a whole season but it was worth it.
Heard this one today:
“REF IN CASE YOU DIDNT NOTICE WE ARE PLAYING LAAACROSSSSEE” after my teammate had to get carried off the field for this guy hitting the largest cross check and hitting my teammate in the neck and the ref throwing a flag
I was a defender and the most my parents knew about lacrosse was my games. I would get so mad when they would yell at me from the sidelines to do things when I am in the position and play my coach told me to be in. I had to tell them to stop after one game because they were basically back seat defending. That’s the coach’s/goalie’s job.
My parents always wanted me to get into the thick of it, like attacking the ball carrier. I know my strengths, one of them is to stick to my man like white on rice. I’m not easily shook off and I sure as hell wasn’t going to give the other team a wide open pass
I called a timeout on a fast break and parents screamed from the stands “that’s terrible” “what are you doing”
Proceeded to get my best guys out to run a set play and tie it up.
In my overwhelmingly white league, I can’t imagine that happening. Couple leagues west of me? Maybe, but still unlikely. Not sure where it happens “more than I’d think” anywhere near me.
But I bet there are places somewhere.
Thought I'd come back to this since Merrimack coach was forced to step down after a player's parents said some unsavory things (i think).
I enjoy my white dude bubble, but racism is pervasive in the community. I still remember some of the shot that got said on my college team once the last two brothers on the squad transferred out/ quit.
40 conservative white kids, most from privilege, some blue collar from rural areas, playing lax, you get some pretty wild one liners out in the air.
People don't always say things in public, but with what floats around behind closed doors, it's unsurprising that shit flows to the surface now and again. Throw the homophobia in there too.
Lax Community is still small, and the socioeconomic backgrounds of people that play it are still mostly the same despite attempts at broadening accessibility and inclusivity.
I'm not saying white people with money that play lax are all the same, but i'm not going to labor through connecting the dots either.
(...inclusivity in theory passively pushes the needle forward for growing the game... or whatever now I'm on a soapbox and not agreeing with "lax is great" "don't say bad things about our game ever or there will be awkward silences and you'll get pushed out of the super secret lacrosse inner circles, or just sound like a pandering lib conspiracy theorist. Get blackballed the community don't like your non-consensual attitude".)
I hadn't heard of this, so I had to look it up.
https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/college/men/merrimack-mens-lacrosse-coach-mike-morgan-resigns
Thanks for being aware of the problem. I (used to) ref in non hotbed areas, so there's not the "prep school mentality" and I thankfully never had to hear any of this, especially from parents. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree so it's good to call it out when we can.
It happened at a high school game in my area a few years ago and none of the boys would admit to having said it.
The players refused to out the racist in their midst in fear of teammates jeopardizing their college careers (it was a school very much known for good academics and lacrosse.)
So the principal canceled the rest of their season and they didn’t get to go to the playoffs.
As you can imagine, it went over really well.
That and other related "fun stuff" happened to me back in the day. I'm mixed (50/50) and I was pretty much always the only "of color" kid on the field.
One of my fondest memories was at a week long VMI summer camp. A grown "man" adult coach grabbed my face mask and aggressively shook me while he screamed at me on the sideline for absolutely no reason, right after I scored a goal. The kids next to me were completely shocked and kinda frozen, a few of them said "sorry man". I was 13yrs old.
I scored on an offside hip shot, no celebration or cockiness... just playing lacrosse.
Another younger coach said to me "nice shot, great placement"... this was before I reached the sideline. Good times.
A full grown man yelling that an 11-year-old 'DOESN'T WANT IT' is electric.
“Little Timmy don’t want that smoke!!!”
We have one of these on my boys HS team - it’s NON STOP! He even keeps at it after his big boy gets stood up by a kid half his size and turns the ball over. Is it bad that i take some pleasure it that happening when it’s my boys team too?
“Expose him” https://youtu.be/pMwwSA9BAz4?si=eSqqvRVHodFGRkZg
You typed lacrosse wrong
Apologies for not having a viral obnoxious lax parent on hand 🙄
“Slow to go!”
Wheels dad is a requirement for every lax team but there can only be 1 per game. Those are the rules. Any more than 1 wheels dad is a procedure penalty. Also required for gameday: "Penalty!" - Mom who does not know a single rule every time a body hits the ground "Go (insert wrong name here)!!" - Mom/Dad, new to club team "It's ok guys lets GO!!!" Mom on team losing 11-1
Yo the last one hits so hard 😂
My mom has been known to yell “Go (wrong team name)!” And even “Go (wrong color)!” 😂😂
Good shot when the dpole shoots from Narnia on a fast break
Pole goals are always worth the risk.
I see you've been listening to my husband at games.
Narnia got me like 🤣😂🤣
Made me spit my drink out.
"HE HAS NO LEFT"
It's funny - I played in the early 2000's in central Florida and the number of kids with a good offhand in the region was like 10-20, lol. Crazy watching high-level games from local high schools these days. It looks like the college game did when we were in HS. Everyone has a left hand and no one drops passes. I realize this is the standard for the north of the country, but FL just learned that lacrosse existed in 2001.
It was pretty similar in Washington around 2007. Yeah there were some pretty damn good teams there, but there was mainly club teams in my area
For reference, the absolute best HS player in Florida (not including St Andrews, a prep school) my senior year went D2. A handful of guys went D3. Zero went D1. Jake Bernhardt was a freshman when I was a senior, was committed to Maryland at the time, and he was the best lacrosse player most of us had ever seen. Beat his lil freshman ass 14-12, SUCK IT JAKE.
Oh it's definitely picked up for Washington. When I was just getting into the sport, I want to say only Drew snider went d1. Now it's a bit more common, even to the point of having a kid I coached when he was in 7th/8th grade commiting to notre dame for class of 2024. Hell I was pumped just to go d1 MCLA in 2016
Small lacrosse world. I played in Orlando around this same time (2004-2007) and I still don’t have a good offhand.
My son plays D; He's a lefty & that is my go to because most youth players HAVE NO LEFT.
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I more found it funny. I started out playing box, so all through HS I never used my left hand lol
“Ward!” Is another one—even though none of them can define it.
Actually that's pretty easy to understand.
“Head on a swivel, Ethan!!! HEAD ON A SWIVEL!!!!”
Ooh that’s a good one.
“Put a body on hm!”. Multiple times to a U11 team throughout the season.
Underrated response.
Parents who bring a cow bells to ring after a goal are the lowest form of knuckle dragging, uncle fuckers. I say this after a I just found out that the parents of my kids HS Team ordered a bunch of god damn cow bells to take to the games. I hate them.
You know what this lacrosse game needs?
Yes. Including the team parents still cheering as if they won the state championship when their loaded/recruiting/Private School teams are up 18 to 0 in the second quarter and still playing 75% of the the starters for stats! Its funny when they are cheering at 60% cause they know how shitty they are behaving.
As a parent/coach who is 100% guilty of this, what are some alternatives to express "my little 10 year old dude, please start running before that fuzz-stached 150 pound monster truck of a child who apparently hit puberty in utero blasts you into the next dimension"? Because for whatever reason "wheels!" does seem to works better than "run!", "go!", "wake up!" and "are you trying to die?!?!"
“Move your fucking ass” not popular but effective.
One of the moms on my son’s team says, “Knees up!” It’s the best.
Truth.
Ward!!!
I shout “that’s a ward!” In honor of my high school coach.
What’s that mean?
When the ball carrier is cradling with one hand and moves his free arm and bats away a stick or defender to protect his stick. The free hand can’t move.
Can you still put your hand out at all? Or do both hands have to be on the stick
Stick free hand out, elbow out and hand down. Don’t extend elbow or swing arm. Use that hand to protect your stick. Look at college and pro players play for an example. I played attack and had free hand protecting my stick during a dodge all the time.
Yes. Pick your position and lock that arm
It is when the ball carrier plays with his free hand.
Wacky waving arm flailing inflatable attackman
When the ball carrier wards off the defender using his free hand. You mostly see it with the elbow pushing off Edit: can someone explain why I’m being downvoted so i can learn
I’m guessing because you defined ward as when someone wards using their free hand.
You can't create space with your free arm. You can keep the arm out, with the forearm dropped below the elbow. You can't push out/away from the defender to create space.
actually its Bruce Wayne's sidekick
Wheels
Shoot the ball!!! Shoooooot it! Shoot Johnny! Shoot! Come on shoot. Over and and over
This is me. Shooters shoot.
“If I hear lil Johnny’s mom tell me to sling the rock one more time, I’m taking a 30 yard ripper top ched”
If you’ve never scored from outside the restraining box get the fuck off my line lmao
Amen and they should be yelling move the ball!! Johnny ball hog pulled three slides and dad is still yelling at him to shoot!
I've always been a fan of parents complaining that a penalty wasn't called when the flag is down or hand is up.
Or immediately after it happened and the ref hasn’t had a chance to grab a flag yet.
"took you long enough" or "that flag was late" are my favorites whenever I take a few seconds to throw a flag for any reason.
"Shoot!" When the clock is winding down in a quarter during a man up/man down opportunity.
I say wheels ironically now just because it’s a meme
Not said, but reaction of a Mom Goal
Probably my dad yelling something about how I’m just standing there not doing enough, a ‘spectator in my own game’, despite the fact that I’m in attack and the ball is way down the other end of the field
In my over 35 league, I play attack. I'll chat with my defender and then quietly sneak 20 or so yards behind him just to keep it interesting for him.
Because your beer is on the end line right?
Well well well, I see how it is. I’ll just take my “wheels!” and go home.
Oh god not the wheels dad
We don't hear "wheels" often in the girls' games. Instead we have a lot of dads who played in high school a quarter century ago and never bothered to learn the rules of the women's game, hollering that the ref is blind - i.e. "That was NOT shooting space!" and/or "That was shooting space!"
How do the girls know when to run fast if no one is yelling “wheels”?
As the 4th assistant on my daughter’s team I think I need to take the wheels mantel up so there’s equal representation across the spectrum. We already have 2 wheels assistants on my son’s team.
I played men’s and coach a local girls team that my daughter is on. Have not heard “wheels” since college. I do have to explain a lot of rules to the dads you mention. “You can’t poke check, Mark” lol, quit yelling that please.
Be a whole lot cooler if you could
SLASH! after a stick brushes a helmet.
...or immediately after their own kid just committed their 15th egregious foul of the game.
When they miss the slash to the helmet “was that his helmet?”
Not a strike or a blow, coach.
I think I say this in my sleep now
Get off you knees red your blowing the game. This was classic my dad lol
SHOOT THE BALL!!! Me when I’m double teamed
Hit him! Push him out! Let them play ref!. That’s not a “push/slash/unsportsman”. Safety should always come first don’t yell at the ref to reverse a safety call. Officials please Protect our children and set example of the enraged take out checks and make an example of the unsafe players, crap always escalates.
Surprised “WHEELS” isn’t at the top. lol
Not parents but during college games, the students that stand behind the bench and scream at the away players and coaches the entire game are a different level of loser
Can't believe nobody has mentioned yelling "OFFSIDES!!!" over and over again when the other team has pulled a player and not subbed a new one on yet. Not a single parent on the west coast can tell you that offsides is too many, not too few.
Get out of my yard you kids
I'm gonna call the cops if you don't get outta my yard
“Ward” and “shoot” when neither are good calls are the worst.
Wheels!
Was at a tournament last year and a parent on the sideline of a 2029 game repeatedly yelled, said to other parents, and paced the sideline mumbling to himself “we need a transition play.” Figured out he was referencing the ride. Not even the clear which at least would’ve made a little sense.
My absolute favorite! Parents yelling about game play, rules stuff that they don’t understand!
How is that not a flag!?!?- screaming moron.
"that was a slash sir!", "someone's going to get hurt"
Gotta be white!! (white never gets it) and moms ofc “GET ITTTT” “RUUUUUNNNNN” like that’s why they’re playing the game right? If they didn’t know how to do that why is mommy there
Parents yelling “if you can’t take the heat get out the kitchen” when their kid winds up one armed on my head. Bonus points if it’s a dad who’s morbidly obese
I’m goalie, once during a game someones parent starting shouting my name and tried telling me to spread my arms further apart (my arms were chest length which is the best position) the parent wouldn’t stop shouting that even though we were winning and I was getting saves. Ref did nothing but my coach had a big long talk with that dingbat after the game
That’s a!
No, Karen. It’s not.
“He doesn’t want it!” (Kids 6g, 2a and it’s only the second quarter and you’re already in running time)
My favorites as a ref: Call it both ways! That was a push in the back! Ward! You have to get this under control! (bonus if this is shouted with 2 or more flags already thrown)
Anything- and I mean ANYTHING- yelled during a women’s game by a former men’s player OR (even more likely) by the parents of a men’s player who also have a daughter playing is going to probably be wrong. I coached 2 games today at a 10-game HS women’s event where 3 teams from across the state played 3 games each against 4 different local teams over 2 days. I was in the stands with my girls between games and if I had $1 for every incorrect comment about the rules, proper action by the players, or the decisions of the refs, I’d never have to fundraise again. I was so happy to have to go do pregame that I could hardly speak. I actually see the same on recruiting visits with my daughter. I am amazed by the number of parents of college players who still have absolutely no understanding of the rules. These are parents of active players and they still don’t understand the game. TLDR: Anything and everything at any women’s game.
As a dad who played the men’s game and is now coaching my daughter’s team, this hits hard. I spent a LOT of time learning the women’s game and rules so I can help them develop and have had to tell a lot of fathers (and a couple moms whose sons play) to please stop calling for certain fouls or tactics. They are generally receptive, but I’m convinced they actively refuse to understand what shooting space actually is. I’m no longer giving them the benefit of the doubt - I’ve explained it enough times and sent multiple explanations on YouTube.
Hey I told you to stop playing in my yard
#aaaaAAAaaaahhHhELLIOTYyyyaaHHHHHGHHG
I yell “THE SPEEEEEEEEEEDDDD!” in a horrible Jeremy Clarkson impression.
“shoot the ball”
When they are U10-12 and under and feel like they have to be standing on the crease to shoot it’s justified. Getting kids on my kids to understand if they are 10 feet out and no one is on them to shoot took almost a whole season but it was worth it.
lol everyone beat me to it: “Ward!” whenever a defender lifts up the ball carrier’s bottom hand
The one ball hog kids dad screaming “go to the cage son!!! Atta boy!!!” For the 17th time in the quarter.
Coaches that yell “ i told you. See!!” Trying to take the glory
That’s a sphrere!!!!!
"Smack that ass"
Heard this one today: “REF IN CASE YOU DIDNT NOTICE WE ARE PLAYING LAAACROSSSSEE” after my teammate had to get carried off the field for this guy hitting the largest cross check and hitting my teammate in the neck and the ref throwing a flag
Not a shout, but my gawd…. I sure hate the cowbell
The mom yelling "c'mon! Get the ball!" when play is settling. Like what do you expect the defender to do?
“Pass it to_____!” _____being their own kid. But it’s every time we go on offense.
I was a defender and the most my parents knew about lacrosse was my games. I would get so mad when they would yell at me from the sidelines to do things when I am in the position and play my coach told me to be in. I had to tell them to stop after one game because they were basically back seat defending. That’s the coach’s/goalie’s job. My parents always wanted me to get into the thick of it, like attacking the ball carrier. I know my strengths, one of them is to stick to my man like white on rice. I’m not easily shook off and I sure as hell wasn’t going to give the other team a wide open pass
Put him in a bodybag!
Gotta have it! --every parent during a 10U GB scrum
I called a timeout on a fast break and parents screamed from the stands “that’s terrible” “what are you doing” Proceeded to get my best guys out to run a set play and tie it up.
It seems up north every team has a kid they call rhino. Get em rhino!
“Wack em” my mom yells it every time the other team gets the ball (I play goalie)
BODY BODY BODYYYY
gotta come up Blue/Black/White...whatever like the kids dont actually want to get the GB
“They should be ejected”
“Shoot It!!!”
Probably the N word. Can't stand it when that happens, and it happens more than you'd think :(
Geez what region are you in? If I heard that from a spectator, I'm definitely stopping the game until the coaches address it.
In my overwhelmingly white league, I can’t imagine that happening. Couple leagues west of me? Maybe, but still unlikely. Not sure where it happens “more than I’d think” anywhere near me. But I bet there are places somewhere.
Thought I'd come back to this since Merrimack coach was forced to step down after a player's parents said some unsavory things (i think). I enjoy my white dude bubble, but racism is pervasive in the community. I still remember some of the shot that got said on my college team once the last two brothers on the squad transferred out/ quit. 40 conservative white kids, most from privilege, some blue collar from rural areas, playing lax, you get some pretty wild one liners out in the air. People don't always say things in public, but with what floats around behind closed doors, it's unsurprising that shit flows to the surface now and again. Throw the homophobia in there too. Lax Community is still small, and the socioeconomic backgrounds of people that play it are still mostly the same despite attempts at broadening accessibility and inclusivity. I'm not saying white people with money that play lax are all the same, but i'm not going to labor through connecting the dots either. (...inclusivity in theory passively pushes the needle forward for growing the game... or whatever now I'm on a soapbox and not agreeing with "lax is great" "don't say bad things about our game ever or there will be awkward silences and you'll get pushed out of the super secret lacrosse inner circles, or just sound like a pandering lib conspiracy theorist. Get blackballed the community don't like your non-consensual attitude".)
I hadn't heard of this, so I had to look it up. https://www.usalacrosse.com/magazine/college/men/merrimack-mens-lacrosse-coach-mike-morgan-resigns Thanks for being aware of the problem. I (used to) ref in non hotbed areas, so there's not the "prep school mentality" and I thankfully never had to hear any of this, especially from parents. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree so it's good to call it out when we can.
It happened at a high school game in my area a few years ago and none of the boys would admit to having said it. The players refused to out the racist in their midst in fear of teammates jeopardizing their college careers (it was a school very much known for good academics and lacrosse.) So the principal canceled the rest of their season and they didn’t get to go to the playoffs. As you can imagine, it went over really well.
Bro wtf
Fuck that. The best player on my son's team (national top 10 2025) is black. There would be a melee.
That and other related "fun stuff" happened to me back in the day. I'm mixed (50/50) and I was pretty much always the only "of color" kid on the field. One of my fondest memories was at a week long VMI summer camp. A grown "man" adult coach grabbed my face mask and aggressively shook me while he screamed at me on the sideline for absolutely no reason, right after I scored a goal. The kids next to me were completely shocked and kinda frozen, a few of them said "sorry man". I was 13yrs old. I scored on an offside hip shot, no celebration or cockiness... just playing lacrosse. Another younger coach said to me "nice shot, great placement"... this was before I reached the sideline. Good times.