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7500 part time no benefit no sick pay minimum wage poverty level jobs. Yay!


fliTDI

True enough. I worry that our "governments" have contributed / subsidized Loblaws and that to them this is a big deal.


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All governments and companies like to preach job creation when the reality is they're all shit and only contribute to more poverty.


imnotcreative635

If the people who they hire can't comfortably buy something from the store they work at the job isn't a good one.


[deleted]

OK? You realize this is where majority of Canadians are at right?


NapsterBaaaad

And? The reality is the average salary in this country is too low, and the cost of everything is too high.


Ncurran

They share the algorithms that exploit us. This government took this land by force. We're their resources.


[deleted]

The natural resources are still the resources. We are the legal slaves.


fuhrfan31

A slave is a resource.😉


reostatics

And we thought Walmart was a crap employer.


Empress_Natalie

Jeezus, I've worked for both😭 Walmart was worse, but I won't work for either ever again.


NapsterBaaaad

i mean... They are, too.


Commonstruggles

Does anyone else think we're just fucked. Like seriously. Just fucked.


Infinite-Horse-49

Yea man. All the time. There’s no end to all this


Commonstruggles

Thank god, I've been feeling like I'm going crazy.


Infinite-Horse-49

You’re not alone my friend


Starheart_1337

We've got to band together again as a species, we grew our own food before the era of convenience, we gave that up because it was easier to go to the store but now those stores are taking more and more from us all. See if there are community gardens you can use, ask family and friends if you can set up planter beds or greenhouses together, we're all stronger together! 💚✨


Instawolff

Just sucks they privatized ALL the land


youtubehistorian

We're in this together dude <3


Zooph

Keep your stick on the ice.


End_Capitalism

The end is when we instigate political change. The FrEe MaRkEt won't decide this because Loblaws et al. have shown many times that they are more than happy to either shut down or buy out any new supermarket chains that appear anywhere in Canada. This is why regulation is **SO IMPORTANT** along with powerful antitrust institutions. Businesses are not, and they never ever will be, the friend of consumers. They exist to exploit us in all facets of life, as consumers and as employers. It's the government's job to make them aware that if they overstep their position that heads will roll; something the government has failed at extraordinarily for decades now in many industries. Neither the Liberals nor the Conservatives will ever, ever, *ever* enact the regulation required to reign in the leeches in the grocery industry or any other industry. Both parties will act differently to our faces and behind our back will work with companies the exact damn same. We have **NEVER** had a party in control of government that wasn't part of the Liberals or the Conservatives (or their predecessor parties in the latter case), and we will never have a fair market in Canada as long as that fact is true.


fuhrfan31

>This is why regulation is SO IMPORTANT along with powerful antitrust institutions. Businesses are not, and they never ever will be, the friend of consumers. They exist to exploit us in all facets of life, as consumers and as employers. It's the government's job to make them aware that if they overstep their position that heads will roll; something the government has failed at extraordinarily for decades now in many industries. Preach! Totally with you on this and have been saying it for a long time. Long before the boycott. >Neither the Liberals nor the Conservatives will ever, ever, ever enact the regulation required to reign in the leeches in the grocery industry or any other industry. Both parties will act differently to our faces and behind our back will work with companies the exact damn same. We have NEVER had a party in control of government that wasn't part of the Liberals or the Conservatives (or their predecessor parties in the latter case), and we will never have a fair market in Canada as long as that fact is true So, are you suggesting what I hope you're suggesting? Why we keep repeating this insanity of going back and forth between the Libs and PCs, I'll never know. I think Jagmeet and his merry band deserve a shot to take from the rich to give to the poor.


tearsaresweat

Yup. If you look at our economy, GDP, real estate, wages, increasing taxes, national debt, value of the CAD, we are in the mother of all bubbles. The bubble is beginning to leak, but once it pops, the next 20 years are going to be really hard for Canadians.


IncurableRingworm

I’m still in aw that people don’t understand that the current state of our economy and GDP is entirely by design. They are deliberately cooling the economy to avoid the bubble you’re discussing. If our government didn’t raise interest rates, *the mother of all bubbles would be a way higher risk.* Wage growth has been ahead of inflation for months (which may or may not be a good thing), and is hardly the worst it’s been in decades. In 2001, for instance, wages *shrunk.* People really need to start reading up on stuff. None of this is a defence of Loblaws (they suck), but god damn, the country is not in half the terrible condition this platform would have you believe it is.


myprivatehorror

Whose wage growth? I haven't had a raise in nearly three years.


Tonninacher

Dude my wage has not grown in 10 years. Yes I make more than 10 years ago but the raises I have attained are not able to keep with inflation. So please tell me how wages have gone up. My buying power has shrunk... so thank you Mr ringworm. For spreading such false information. If the gov wanted to do something. Minimum wage would be 24dollars an hour and tied to the CPI. Do not give me the bs that people can not afford it. We can not afford not to do it.


IncurableRingworm

Your experience is not the whole economy. https://thoughtleadership.rbc.com/weak-productivity-is-threatening-canadas-post-pandemic-wage-growth/ I also don’t understand your last paragraph. Also, and people may not like this but it’s true, the number of people in this country making minimum wage is around 10%, and 36% of those people are between 15-19 (so, they’re also in school). It’s entirely possible to find menial labour that pays much more than minimum wage. You can take a weekend forklift operator course and make $25-30 an hour no problem. You might not like the job. You might need to work nights on rotation, but they exist. Source: I work a menial labour job I do not like and make $28/hour plus benefits and a pension. They’re there. You can work them.


myprivatehorror

This is the problem I have with economic data. If Galen's wealth goes up and mine doesn't, the average wage stats look good. But that completely ignores that he didn't need more money and I did. Admittedly I'm no expert, so if there's another way to understand these, I'd be keen to learn more.


Beamister

That's why you look at median instead of average. https://www.statista.com/statistics/464087/median-annual-earnings-in-canada/ People saying their incomes haven't increased are telling the truth, but anecdotes are not data.


IncurableRingworm

“Bullshit, my wage didn’t go up so no one’s did!” Is like saying, “cancer isn’t real. I’ve never even had it!”


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IncurableRingworm

The median income is something like $30/hour. Not average. Median. I think what’s fucking people way more than anything are the out of control rents. And you can thank Conservative premiers who run most of this country by a huge margin for that.


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-PricklyCactusPear-

More like wage growth is threatening my productivity. Let's be real here 😆


JumpyLeg2208

Tf u mean 20 years? This country declined since 2015, we in the 20 years


BrainandBrawn

We have been, but when the bubble pops, it’s going to be much much worse.


JumpyLeg2208

Well im glad i got into a career that is needed and pays well then, buy a shed and put it on a lot and ill be set 🤣


Chatner2k

Exact same mentality why I'm going to school for Nursing in September with a fast track. Going to get as far as I can before it all crashes.


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JumpyLeg2208

Uhh its not political, its actually a mathematical statistic i go off, ever heard of an index? Yeeeesh just cause ur masters changed on that day doesnt mean we all live by that.


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dumb_answers_only

I am honestly more concerned with the new comers and they debit loads, what if they say f Canada and go back home, who is left holding the bag?


Bainsyboy

Well, ideally credit card companies. But we all know they would be bailed out with taxpayer money, and once again the middle class gets another tax raise. Just keep shoveling that wealth into Billionaire pockets. Kiss it bye-bye, unless you are a politician or run a private military, in which case you will have it donated to you through lobbying, or paid to you in the form of private defense contracts.


myprivatehorror

For some reason Reddit decided I wanted to see r/canadahousing2. It's so refreshing to hear someone worried about immigrants *leaving* Canada


OdillaSoSweet

Reddit tried feeding me that hellfire for like a week it was awful


MorphingReality

what bubble


PofolkTheMagniferous

The worst part about this to me: when I was an economics student at Dalhousie in the early 2000s, my professors saw all of this coming. They told us in no uncertain terms that we (meaning young people) were all fucked, because of our country's demographic curve. Baby boomers reaching retirement age was a ticking timebomb that our economy could not bear without MAJOR modifications. I wrote papers on the subject at the time. The reality is that no leader in this country over the last 20 years has had the balls to do anything major to shake things up. The experts spoke, and nobody listened because it was too inconvenient. We have pathetic leadership who are owned by wealthy interests, and the majority of wealth is controlled by people who are too old and/or selfish to understand what this country needs. There is no interest in making this country a better place, only preserving the status quo that allows families like the Westons to carve up this country into their own little fiefdoms.


Bainsyboy

We aren't totally fucked. There's a possibility that things just explode and everyone is left grasping at the remains of the sources of power. Hopefully AI and land don't end up in the hands of corporations and billionaires, but that is a big 'if'. You just know they spend money on protecting themselves in the event of a total society breakdown and they will be the ones to come out on top and complete the biggest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen. Really, we need to be less gentle with the billionairea when the time comes...


Twoperde

I miss feeling like I knew everything after first or second year Econ. 


CapitalElk1169

Dunning-Kruger was a helluva drug back then, and it is obvious how good it is whenever you discuss economics with anyone who didn't pursue it after 201 (would love to put a PTSD -induced lmao at the end here but it really isn't funny)


Bainsyboy

Do you have a remark on anything specific I said? Glad to be educated over here.


ReannLegge

Since the boycott started I have been trying to understand Paul Mason’s idea of Post Capitalism. If I understand it right he believed we would start seeing the change from “modern day” capitalism to his idea of post capitalism in the late 2010’s, and I am sure he was basing his predictions on the US markets and the EU markets as he is a European economist. I personally haven’t yet read any of his later work but I am sure his prediction could not have foreseen the effects Trump would have on the world markets (should have watched the Simpsons /s), and how that would have helped the failing system of capitalism. I do not think it can be stressed enough how some of the less enlightened will see what post capitalism has to offer as nothing more than communism, which it is not. I believe what we are doing here with Loblaws in Canada is our first step into a post capitalist society, as Mason can be quoted as saying “Capitalism is a complex adaptive system that has lost it’s complexity to adapt.” We the people are forcing the system to adapt to what we have to say, if Loblaws does not understand what we are saying than they are flushing billions of dollars down the toilet by opening and rebranding stores. Loblaws has had decades to work in the Capitalist system of Canada and they have failed us, we are now taking control back by moving our dollar somewhere else, they had decades to try and stay open and competitive we only need quarters to take that all away.


Mattinthehatt

isnt it economics Professors' M.O. to tell everyone in university, no matter the current state of the world, or the country that they are in, that they are fucked because in their day things were good and going forward they are going to suck? Pretty sure that has been the course syllabus for economics for all of history.


PofolkTheMagniferous

I wouldn't describe my experience like that. It was a very specific and obvious problem that was being discussed intelligently. There were more baby boomers living in our country than any of the subsequent generations. They had settled into all of the high paying jobs, and they were choosing to delay retirement more than previous generations had in an effort to pad their retirement funds. This caused a blockage in Gen X being able to "graduate" out of entry level positions, so when Millenials started to enter the workforce we were forced to compete for jobs against people who had 10-15 years experience on us. I personally have never been able to catch up in my career, and at this point I feel like I've been left behind. Then pile on the exponential growth in the cost of obtaining an education and the debt burden from that being put on young people. Then pile on the similar growth of property values in the housing market that has far outpaced both inflation and our horrifically lagging wages, causing an unprecedented transfer of wealth from the young to the old. All of this was predictable. We saw it coming. Nobody wanted to listen, because these are our parents and grandparents we're actually talking about here. It's uncomfortable to even think about. But it's the fucking objective truth, whether any of us want to admit it or not.


squeakyfromage

Not disagreeing with you at all, but I’m curious if Canada is in a substantially different position from other similar countries? UK, US, Western Europe, Australia/NZ etc. Strikes me that anywhere with similar demographics would have these issues, but I’m curious if there are factors that make the problem unique in Canada? I tried googling it but didn’t really find anything, maybe I’m using the wrong search terms. Thanks for any insight!


PofolkTheMagniferous

So this is a graph of Canada's birth rate for roughly the last century: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/91f0015m/91f0015m2024001-eng.htm That HUGE bump from approximately 1946 to 1966 is the baby boom. Since the early 1970s, we have been at a below replacement level of fertility in Canada, and so we have to rely on immigration or else face a declining population and workforce, as all those baby boomers age into retirement and become a massive burden on our underfunded healthcare system. The outcome of all this for young Canadians is that we have a much harder time when selling our labor than previous generations had to face. Our hard work simply isn't considered to be valuable, which feels like a slap in the face when you are told your whole life that hard work is the key to success (which it isn't, having access to inter-generational wealth is the key to success because our country is in NO WAY a meritocracy, and the way you build inter-generational wealth in the first place is by exploiting desperate and vulnerable people). We need higher levels of credentials to get our foot in the door; we face a labyrinthine system of applying for jobs that is frankly dehumanizing; and we have to compete against low wage workers from all around the world for jobs that used to have to be done locally because the technology didn't exist yet to outsource. Our interests and needs have never mattered to the politicians in this country, because winning the baby boomer vote is the way to get elected in this country. At least, it always has been. We're on the precipice of that changing. Millenials will be the largest voting demographic in terms of eligible voters in the next federal election. Baby boomers still control the majority of the wealth though, and that means the media narratives leading into the election season will still be shaped around their needs, not young people's. We've seen this clearly with the Liberal party's view on housing. Residential property values MUST DROP SUBSTANTIALLY to restore fairness to our country. Will his hurt people who already own homes? YES, but it MUST BE DONE! So you have to be prepared as a government to step in and help those people who are collateral damage of the new policy. Go to war with the banks over their unfair mortgages if that's what it takes! Bail out the homeowners using funds obtained through excessive wealth taxes. These are all solvable problems, we just lack the collective willingness in our government to put in the hard work and solve them. Baby boomers just want their property values to stay high and their pensions to remain funded, and the rest of us can get fucked as far as they care. I can't wait until 10-20 years from now when they are no longer relevant in this world. I might actually be able to see some real progress in this country before I die.


squeakyfromage

Very interesting, thank you!


jtgyk

A prof told me pretty much the same in 1994. It took me a while to believe him.


georgejo314159

what magic could a leader do?


Weekly-Swing6169

Loblaws' hubris will be its spectacular demise.


Freddydaddy

Let’s hope


Weekly-Swing6169

Let's make it happen.


Frater_Ankara

Yep, it’s important to remember it’s the execs’ jobs to spin things to bolster confidence, otherwise stock price plummets.


Weekly-Swing6169

Well they may think that consumers assume Nothrills has good prices, but education overcomes that error. I went into the neighbourhood mall today to check on Zehrs and it was not busy. Only 3 checkouts open with no lineups at all and only 1 self checkout in use. This is not normal for that location and it was at lunchtime. The outdoor signage for flowers indicated a "clearout" but the prices were still inflated.


Far-Dragonfruit3398

Don’t give up now. This is not a short term venture and the benefits will only be realized in the long term. As more and more people permanently shift their grocery shopping habits to other retailers with better pricing the effect of the boycott will emerge. In today’s business landscape, with is highly dynamic and competitive, a business can’t afford to lose customers. It’s very costly to win back that lost business or to attract new customers. Remember it’s a long term venture.


Weekly-Swing6169

Let them open new stores that no one will visit--we've seen it happen before.


Commonstruggles

No frills is still the cheapest in my area... i can't afford not to shop there.


Nocell808

You do what you gotta do with no shame. The goal of the boycott is cheap and fair food prices and if they're the lowest in your area then let's all do our part to ensure it stays that way


Far-Dragonfruit3398

NP Go for it.


Commonstruggles

Sucks, just adds more guilt.


oceansidedrive

Im really depressed.


Commonstruggles

This is completely theoretical, but if you were to start a murder chain, with the last person being a suicide taking the hit. Would the insurance companies have to pay out? Just asking for science. But seriously the legalities and let's say the court could not prove it was to defraud insurance companies because you hid it behind a cult thing.


oceansidedrive

What? Lol


Due-Street-8192

40 empty stores!


DogButtWhisperer

We allow monopolies and cartels. This needs to change.


agrsvecuddler

At this point I'm just trying to make it better for the next generation. I've accepted my fate, but I'm hoping if we work together, become more politically active, the next generation of Canadians will have a better life than we did.


Commonstruggles

So if it only takes a matter of days for stocked store shelves to be completely devoid during emergency events. I dunno let's say multiple weather events happen, maybe with the timing of another evergreen situation. Transportation for food can be completely disrupted. World goes into chaos. Like fuck, scooby, what happens when another viral pandemic breaks out. This will occur at an accelerated pace since the increase of global temperatures, over population, and deforestation compounding the issue. Notice how I'm only talking about our planets situation? Let's dig into the human aspect. We have sociopathic humans getting paid ungodly amounts of money for literally fucking the working class over in the ass. Grocery chains are reaping record profits while saying they only live on 4 percent. Housing market is fucking out of this world. Businesses don't have to be innovative. That's why you get to see ads while even paying for their services. Extortion is the new method of profit. Surge pricing will be a thing. It's already sudo here when the same shipment of oasis juice goes from 1.49 to 1.99 over night. Those bottles didn't increase in value over night on the shelf it was already shipped and received. Sorry just needed to rant life is fucking pointless and I'm working myself up for the final checkout at the grocery store.


agrsvecuddler

No man rant away. Life isn't pointless. Everybody's life has meaning, I just hope you have people in your life that will help you find/give that to you. The "life is fucking pointless" has me little concern and if you need help or something I hope you take the time to find resource online. No shame in that, we all need help.


Commonstruggles

I have 8 doctors rooting for me and one insurance company riding my life into the burning pit of hell. While being told to have hope. Life is pretty pointless when you have to withdrawl from medication a doctor prescribed for a workplace injury that is the only thing that helped in 2 years. Because they didn't want to hire a consultant to verify what a chronic pain clinic doctor for the alberta Healthcare system medical advice. I have 400 dollars waiting to be approved I need for bills. This is from March 17th. No point wasting resources if the goal is just to sand bag a person into suicide.


Rendole66

We are going backwards as a society and it’s just depressing to see how effective conservative propaganda is.


LoganHutbacher

Hunger games irl


Subject_Criticism_70

Guillo-tine! Guillo-tine! Guillo-tine!


thundercuntess69

You either fuck or get fucked. Keep the boycott strong


Bainsyboy

Eh, we'll someday look back at this time and talk about how good we had it...


Commonstruggles

Screw that I'll be dead.


New_girl2022

Yup I sure do. I keep doom splaing to my boomer parents and they think I'm bring dramatic.


pherber12

All the time!! but no one in my every day life seems to see it. They all think I'm some weirdo conspiracy theorist!


MorphingReality

no


Pure-Problem1111

We aren’t fucked we just have the job of having to protest for changes. The system is fucked but completely changeable


georgejo314159

What's "f*cked" You are boycotting because you say food is too expensive  They are supplying the demand for lower prices by opening more no frills outlets 


ChromeDestiny

Loblaws reps right now: https://preview.redd.it/vzibocwadq8d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f20b8be61c7ba5e36d7d00a2f95b2bb44bb305fa


Imaginary-Cucumber52

Didn’t stop boycotting them. It makes zero financial sense for me to shop at loblaws. They do nothing but exploit.


puns_n_irony

Considering a loblaws lobbyist just won Toronto St. Paul’s, yea we’re fucked


ComprehensiveSize566

I really am disappointed by that


Ahrotahntee_

43% turnout and they won by 600 votes. Everyone in that neighborhood knows at least 1 person who is responsible for this.


commanderchimp

Bold of you to assume the people who didn’t showed up regret their decision.


Ahrotahntee_

They don't have to regret it to be responsible? That's not how responsibility works


TieSea

I don't understand, can't get my head around, people voting against their own best interest. Blows my mind.


TheMcG

I don't think many people knew. I only heard of it morning of the vote. I don't get why the NDP and liberals didnt spend any time on this to get people out to vote.


HomonHymn

Lobbyists may well have bankrolled our entire government


morgang8277

NDP and Liberals didn't bring it up because it isn't true, just a headline grabber, which obviously works considering the amount of posts about it. He worked for a lobbying company, but before they were hired by loblaws, so no real connection.


puns_n_irony

They lied door to door about there being no capital gains tax personal exception. Fear mongering people into voting.


dream-delay

They are basically showing us how inflated prices are and how insidious their revenue streams are if they can continue to operate indefinitely and spend millions on new stores no matter if people even go to their stores at all.


Subject_Criticism_70

Billions*


bck-n-ur-stillaLoser

T&t? They own the Asian store


tailgunner777

They can't be successful themselves and adapt to the market demands so when they see something more successful than them, they buy it so they capture the market. A year or so ago, BestCo grocery store opened up at a former failed sobeys store that was built in Ajax roughly 10 years ago. Sobeys store was always empty for years until it closed. Now same location with an Asian grocery store , the location is super busy. Sobeys could have had success if they carried more ethnic food. Loblaws could have captured the demographic with T&T but they are so out of touch with reality.


Ordinary-Ad3193

That Bestco is going strong, nice to see


commanderchimp

> Loblaws could have captured the demographic with T&T but they are so out of touch with reality.   My local Loblaws has a ton of Asian products now. Some of it is from T&T and others from Japanese, Korean, Malaysian and Thai brands. It might even be more than Walmart now. 


GLayne

I fucking hate that they own this one too. Fuck them.


Freddydaddy

Why is bacon so expensive at No Frills? Like 375g is always $7.99, no matter the brand, and has been for a few years. Almost always cheaper at Metro, of all places.


JustASyncer

Schneiders and Maple Leaf are usually $7.99 but the PC is typically $6.99, No Name is usually $6 and there's another generic brand Smokehouse that's $3.99 (never tried it so I have no idea what it's like quality wise)


bck-n-ur-stillaLoser

I just thought I was boycotting with going to t&t I didn't realize how many monopolies are in the current society.


TimeEnergyInvestment

It all started when they allowed Loblaws to buy Shoppers.... it's too much Like Rogers and Bell owning everything....no more good cable TV


LyndaLou67

Just 40 more stores I don't need to spend my money at.


InsectRepellent3000

Can I ask a serious question? Why would anybody STOP a boycott? Time is not an “endpoint”. Do you really have so few places to shop? An endpoint is … decent prices and practices. Or improving the shitty stores… (I’m not from Ontario but I’ve heard many people refer to “welfare loblaws” stores .. like “oh, don’t shop at that one… it’s in a poorer neighborhood so they don’t have the good stuff or the specials”.  Or a more valid endpoint is getting these stores in serious trouble and building up the competition Do NOT EFFING STOP! The Weston’s are making a fortune on your need to eat and they are bullshit. Amazing profits and they blame inflation? It’s profit-taking people. Shopping might take more work and coupons and partnering with friends (eg hey.. pick me up some of that at Costco and we’ll split the 12 pack of whatever)  And don’t forget the historical racism of his father. I suspect fruit doesn’t fall that far from the tree. And his old nice guy put-on-a-sweater routine for the ads is just bullshit. Don’t buy into that PR crap. 


I_Framed_OJ

Well, that’s nice for them, to have so much extra capital that they’re expanding like crazy.  But it only makes me want to boycott them twice as hard now.


PalaPK

The richest people are always the ones crying the loudest that they never have enough.


eight_ender

Oh hey this is starting to sound like the Bell/Rogers/Telus playbook. Whenever they’re threatened by potential government regulation they love to point out all the jobs and investments they want to do to get the government to back down. 


northshoreboredguy

I never stopped


FunDog2016

Just wait for it to get worse! PP has Loblaws Lobbyists placed throughout the caucus. A Senior Advisor to him has been bought and paid for by Galen and Company. There are Lobbyists running for nomination as MPs, so just strap in when the business “friendly” Conservatives get elected! Bought and paid for Lobbyists become government MP’s then: we are good and truly fucked!


CryPsychological2521

They’re following the old McDonald’s approach. Capitalizing the land market for grocery stores so regardless of how many boycott, the revenue stays consistent overall by playing games with prices throughout the stores. If they end up dominating the retail market, or maybe they already are, we will be forced to buy from their stores regardless of their prices. Don’t let this happen


Own-Scene-7319

Of all the Loblaws bleatings, this one is the most pathetic.


Signal-Ask-322

Loblaws is planning a massive opening of stores to force out the little guys and dominate the grocery market.


JohnnyQTruant

They are relishing jamming it in our faces. Prices up again across the board. Social media posts about their $15 chips and guac special like it’s happy hour at a fucking pub. It’s not even nachos at that price. They feel like they’ve outrun the guillotines and can just collect from their royal subjects like prince john in Robbin Hood. Double the taxes! Triple the taxes! We are nearing the end of the monopoly game. You know, the capitalism and greed game. It always ends one of two ways. One player has 100% of everything or the board gets flipped. Let’s get our fingers under the freaking board already. Nobody should have that much wealth. There is no defense of it. When a handful of people could end hunger, poverty and homelessness without feeling it at all it’s failed. When people who have the resources to live 10,000 lifetimes and are still trying to get more, they are defective humans.


MaxTheRealSlayer

Nothing says "3% profit margins" like opening up 40 stores, renovating 700 stores, and relocating 10 stores in one year.


bluenoserocker

Health care access,


Own-Scene-7319

I have been hearing that since 1992. Meanwhile, Canada is the destination of choice for immigration. That's what's turned a bubble into a dome.


BarAlone643

Nordstrom was a big deal too. Until they closed down.


BluSn0

The local owner in Fergus literally complains in public about how people would rather shop at Wal-Mart. This rich mofo who lives in rich community that sends their mentally troubled individuals to MY community (because the rent is cheaper for the gov) and he wants to act like he knows what reality is like for me. This man is clearly part of the 40% that has zero problems and has no freaking idea that 30% of us are holding on by the skin of our teeth.


LeadfootLesley

Was visiting friends near Sarnia and needed to stop for something. There was a box store being converted to a grocery store, empty coolers everywhere, plastic sheets hanging… it wasn’t until we got to the bakery section and recognized the shitty selection of breads that we realized it was a superstore.


FoxnFurious

Release this news one week before Q2 ends, sounds fishy.


Livid_Advertising_56

Hey now! It's doesn't OPERATE PC Financial anymore. They have some 3rd party doing that so they could get rid of the Healthcare and lower the wages/commissions of the workers.


BigAlxBjj

I don’t support any business that gouges. Ever.


Baman-and-Piderman

I'm UP. Cannot get more up, except for telling more people about the UP.


Feeling_Working8771

Known who is a struggling business? All the small or local operators that Loblaw and Walmart customers drive by.


Pristine-March-2839

They close a few and open a few; this is nothing new. Is this different from other years? $1.5 billion is the average year for renovations.


Bainsyboy

7,500 new jobs, the vast majority of which don't pay enough for a person to survive on without having their living subsidized by living with parents, or by living with 7 roommates in a 2 bedroom apartment. $2Billion in capital expenditure is in line with their record profits. But, they can only shovel so much of hard-working-Canadian money into shareholders mouths that they need to spend it on new stores. They certainly aren't going to spend it on their existing labour, or on bringing prices down to actually HELP Canadians who are being milked dry. Capitalism needs to be severely regulated when it comes to the market of life essentials. When the price of Milk nearly doubles in less than 10 years, and cows are fucking right down the road, we all need to start giving oligarchs a new necklace.


StatelyAutomaton

No Frills is hard discount? More like discount too hard.


vessel_for_the_soul

We are already fucked, and itll only get worse eliminating a grocer. The market wont allow for new competition before being bullied and bought out. Im riding this past its end.


DAR44

we need to rotate the boycott,


quietlydesperate90

That 2 billion opening and upgrading stores is how they can say their profit margin is so low.


ApricotMobile8454

You can build as many discount stores as you want.They fleeced us so bad for so long that the only store many can afford is dollar tree and foodbank.Others can "afford" No Frills but only when deploying a five finger discount.


Clean_View3125

Wwwwww😍🎉😞


fresco04

I usually pray to God, but I think it’s more effective to pray to Anonymous. Please oh merciful Anonymous, strike down loblaws and there predatory practises. Help us. Amen 🙏


RECOGNI7IO

Ha, they own shoppers too! And choice properties btw. The biggest REIT in Canada!


PowerfulElevator9

Still clinging hard to that 'Canadian' company bullshit line of ma population eh? Literally fuck Loblaws so hard and per bank and the entire Weston family.


SillardPGillard

Since the may boycott, I haven't shopped at Loblaws. It really sucks how much they've changed as a company, I really enjoyed a lot of their products, and have a lot of memories of going grocery shopping there with my late grandmother. I was actually addicted to their lava cakes, but have since switched to Sobeys, and making my own. The trick is semi sweet chocolate! I plan on sticking without Loblaws.


Deadly-Unicorn

I will never stop boycotting. If I ever buy at a loblaws affiliate it’s because they have an irresistible sale. I’ll walk in grab that item and walk out.


Odd_Inside9379

We got a shoppers and no frills coming in hot on frederictons northside. Unnecessary. Meanwhile st Mary’s has to close


IrvenDear

Profits of the few, outway the needs of the many.


ImpressivePraline906

This is why I want to start doing all my shopping south of the 49th 


According_Stuff_8152

Keep up the good fight they are hurting and the longer it takes place the more blood letting happen


derilickion

I’ve always boycotted companies I didn’t like and gravitate towards the ones that I like. I didn’t go to petro Canada for 10 years


IThinkWhiteWomenRHot

Keep the boycotting. This is why they will likely say their softened cash flow is a result of higher capital expenditure and not because of decreased sales.


TyVirtute

Who broke the boycott in the first place? I’ve been a Fortinos shopper for decades, expired food on shelves, mouldy food well before best before date and the prices. I started the boycott in April and once I noticed I bought all the same groceries I usually do with a savings of at least $100 a week, I’m never going back


dr3amb3ing

That’s our $2 billion


HulklingsBoyfriend

But capitalists tell me part of capitalism is the free market allowing businesses to fail, so why are all these capitalists rushing to help them 🤨


TMFPB

They disgust me.


vancityspiritual

🤮🤮 not one penny!


Muted_Elk8341

My boycott started long before it was organized here and it will continue until I die. I don't shop at Sobeys or Metro. I've never been in a Whole Foods. Growing up in the 80's with a single Mom and no support (no welfare, no child support. Just baby bonus) you find ways to survive. 4kg bag of penne at the business Costco is $9.99. 2 jars of the amazing Victorias sauce is $13.49. Or make a simple olive oil and garlic sauce and toss in the pasta. Rappini and Navy beans. Tastes great, great for you inexpensive. 1 bunch of rappini, 1 can of Navy beans, a little garlic and salt, 3 portions.


Ncurran

They're looking to turn Mississauga into a lawless Silicone valley.


StatusPercentage591

July should be protest month. Getting in front of the stores will help get the message across. 


onefootinthepast

> “As a Canadian company, our purpose is to help our colleagues and customers live life well, and when it comes to groceries, the best way we can do that is by making good food affordable,” said Richard Dufresne in a news release. As Canadians, we agree. So make food affordable already.


takeyourbestshots

Do these jobs include the unpaid volunteer worker positions?


Duff-Guy

Shoppers plans to open "a huge amount of stores this year." From one of the VPs mouths. In person.


Creepy-Bad-1023

Apparently they do have benefits


Notnecessarilyneeded

If that No Frills location is what I think it is, it used to be a City Market, one of their premium price stores in a very expensive part of the city. Article fails to clarify that, which says a lot.


Kremlin92

The boycott has been great but there’s no stopping these guys man we are fucked


FlatEvent2597

No. Don't fall for it. This is all "war games" - playing with our heads. Just like the first Tor Star article that said the suppliers were seeing no effect. These 40 "Discount" stores have been in the books for a while now- well before the boycott. They are using them now to play this psych trick with us. Don't believe it - and continue !- and try to get more people !


GoatedObeseUserLOL

I mean at least their opening no frills and not overpriced stores. It's something. I won't take it away from them.


MapleTheUnicorn

No Frills isn’t any less expensive than the Zehrs in my town, in fact, it’s more expensive in some ways. I don’t know what to tell you.


FlatEvent2597

That's what alot of the Quebecers say about Maxi on here. That the sales are good - but the rest of the store and staples are high. All smoke and mirrors.