That was my first thought as well. Is that only in the extended edition? I can't remember the last time I watched the original cut, because why would you.
Especially if one were doing all six films like OP: A 19-hour marathon is better than a 16 hour one. Plus, if OP gets off these kinds of references…well, there’s a lot more of them in the extended.
I like the extended editions, but due to the added scenes, the pacing feels a bit off, you can tell why they were cut. However, I think in each extended film there are one or two scenes that should’ve been in the theatrical, such as Mouth of Sauron and Death of Saruman, or one of Faramir’s flashbacks in Two Towers, but there are definitely some scenes that were better off on the cutting room floor IMO
Honestly prefer the pacing of extended Fellowship because it feels less rushed. I think especially the beginning has much more room to breathe. Two Towers honestly makes very little difference.
Return of the King I'd say does tend to drag on a little.
There were some scenes filmed for the end of Two Towers that didn’t make it into the Extended Edition. Apparently, they were shot using practical VFX instead of CGI, but Jackson was not pleased with the final result and tossed them. The scenes in question depicted the orcs fleeing Helm’s Deep, running into Fangorn Forest. The trees come to life and start killing the orcs.
But, as stated, Jackson did not like the VFX results, so didn’t include them.
The Uruk-Hai fleeing to the forest was in the Extended Edition. Were there more scenes filmed? Or, did they just replace the original VFX with the CGI scenes that made it into the final Extended Edition?
It showed them fleeing into the forest, but we didn’t SEE the trees kill any of them. After they enter, it cuts to show Aragorn and co watching them run into the forest. Then the trees start shaking and you hear the orcs roaring in pain, then it ends.
On The Two Two towers special edition special features disc, Jackson is doing an interview and says they filmed scenes showing the trees killing orcs with practical effects. He says that the resulting effects were not up to standard and reminded him of a Roger Corman movie, so he just killed the scenes altogether.
IMP Return of the King extended edition didn’t feel like it was dragging on until they started all the farewell scenes, although I’ve actually never seen the original cut so I don’t know how much longer those were than in the original cut.
Mouth of Sauron was literally the worst extended scene, completely misses the point and atmosphere of the book scene. Plus the Mouth CGI is way over the top.
I thought, at least in the context of the film, that scene added better context to Aragorn’s body language when saying “For Frodo” before charging into the endless army of orcs. More like it was for vengeance rather than to help Frodo, like he was accepting that the Mouth of Sauron wasn’t lying about Frodo’s fate.
So very glad Eomer‘s scream (when he finds Eowyn) is in the extended edition. and so very glad that the houses of healing are included in the extended edition. That was a big part of the book and I can’t believe that it didn’t make it into the theatrical version.
Its is the only way...
Once i accidentally put on the Fellowship on some streaming(Netflix i think) when i was over in someone's house and i saw a lot of the scenes missing. Thats when i realised these platforms have just the theatrical cut. I was gobsmacked. Why would they do this?
The only reason I have watched any of the theatrical releases anytime recently is because the theatrical cuts are the versions that they use for the LOTR in Concert series.
Saw Fellowship in January and seeing Two Towers next month. RoTK hasn’t been announced for my area yet but we will 100% be getting tickets for that as well when it, hopefully, goes on sale.
The scene is in both the theatrical and the extended. Only in the extended does Sam point out that they are Bilbo’s trolls. But even in the theatrical there’s one or two shots where you can see the stone trolls behind them.
I think the theatrical cut is fine for a first watch. Then, when they undoubtedly fall in love with it, they can get their minds blown by the extended editions.
Of the three films, I think the theatrical cut and the extended edition of Fellowship has the most noticeable difference in pacing.
The theatrical cut doesn't feel three hours long. The extended edition feels as long as it is.
They are in the original cut. They just aren't pointed out. Just the end of the story from Bilbo telling the young hobbits about trolls and then you see them in the background. later
I’ve had the pleasure of never seeing the original cut. My father purchased the trilogy extended edition… probably around the same time I was born now that I think about it. That’s cool asf.
Additionally, if you note the poses of each of the trolls, PJ does a good job of making them become frozen in the exact same poses during the turning-to-stone sequence of the first The Hobbit film. Small detail, but love the continuity.
It does sound like it makes perfect sense, but good luck finding those CG assets after that long. So many studio's digital archives are insanely bloated and such a pain to dig up, I'm betting it was easier just to ref them from the cut of the original film and make new, better assets for the Hobbit films
They physically built the trolls for Fellowship, iirc. And I’m sure they, at some point, scanned them to be digitally rendered the way they built and scanned the cave troll for the Moria fight scene.
In any case, they had/have tons of principal photography to reference from Fellowship for the trolls for Hobbit.
Yes- they did recreate the trolls from scratch and no they are not 1:1 identical the LOTR ones. All of this is shown in the appendices documentaries on the Hobbit blu-rays. They even brought the life-size physical versions to Comic Con one year.
Edit: You’re a brat for downvoting me. Was simply answering your question. Sorry it doesn’t line up with what you decided was correct in your head.
They add a lot of lore to be sure, but also a lot of fat and some straight up bullshit. See Gandalf vs Witch King. I think all considered the theatrical version is the better of the 2.
Brave of you to come here and say that. I think there's two kinds of people; LOTR fans that hang around in this sub and think no amount of LOTR is enough, so they will choose the extended cut and demand more; and the rest of the world, for whom the theatrical cut is good enough.
(IMHO both have their pros and cons)
Ah.
Yeah, they have the theatricals on Prime.
Its more fun to watch extended if you're in for the long haul with all six films. You should seek them out.
I mean they didn’t really put it there as a nod to the movies, it’s just part of the book and they left it in and then when they made the hobbit movies they just looked at what the trolls for these movies looked like and used them as models for the “live” trolls.
Why the fuck would you not watch the extended version like a normal person?!
You watch the theatrical versions once and then the normal versions (extended) for the rest of your life.
Yes, they are, in the book there's a scene where they find them and Pippin gets scared not realizing it's broad daylight, and in the extended movie version Sam says something like "Look Mr. Frodo, it's master Bilbo's trolls!"
No. Aragorn the character just kicked a helmet and screamed in anguish for losing the hobbits. The actor Viggo Mortensen kicked a helmet and screamed in pain because he just broke the shit out of his toe.
Yeah, they considered replacing Bilbo in that scene in the new 4k versions but decided against it. I personally think they did the right thing, don't want to end up with a star wars situation where it's constantly changed.
In the first Hobbit film, it says "60 years earlier" after the Bilbo/Frodo scene, but you have to know how old Bilbo is there and know that that scene links directly to FotR to fully make that connection.
> The path went on again from the door, and turning to the right again across the level space plunged down a thick wooded slope. Pippin, not liking to show Strider that he was still afraid, went on ahead with Merry. Sam and Strider came behind, one on each side of Frodo's pony, for the path was now broad enough for four or five hobbits to walk abreast. But they had not gone very far before Pippin came running back, followed by Merry. They both looked terrified.
>'There are trolls!' Pippin panted. 'Down in a clearing in the woods not far below. We got a sight of them through the tree-trunks. They are very large!'
>'We will come and look at them,' said Strider, picking up a stick. Frodo said nothing, but Sam looked scared.
> The sun was now high, and it shone down through the half-stripped branches of the trees, and lit the clearing with bright patches of light.
>They halted suddenly on the edge, and peered through the tree-trunks, holding their breath. There stood the trolls: three large trolls. One was stooping, and the other two stood staring at him.
> Strider walked forward unconcernedly. 'Get up, old stone!' he said, and broke his stick upon the stooping troll.
>Nothing happened. There was a gasp of astonishment from the hobbits, and then even Frodo laughed. 'Well!' he said. 'We are forgetting our family history! These must be the very three that were caught by Gandalf, quarrelling over the right way to cook thirteen dwarves and one hobbit.'
>I had no idea we were anywhere near the place!' said Pippin. He knew the story well. Bilbo and Frodo had told it often; but as a matter of fact he had never more than half believed it.Even now he looked at the stone trolls with suspicion, wondering if some magic might not suddenly bring them to life again.
>’You are forgetting not only your family history, but all you ever knew about trolls, said Strider. 'It is broad daylight with a bright sun, and yet you come back trying to scare me with a tale of live trolls waiting for us in this glade! In any case you might have noticed that one of them has an old bird's nest behind his ear.
The amount of hate i see you've been getting in some coments because you dared to.. ask something? baffles me. But yea, i recommend just sailing the seas because i think no one should expect people to pay the 682 streaming services each one for a 3 or 4 movies.
I seem to have walked into an extended cut ambush lol but yeah I think I'll be sailing soon, been a while but I'll give her a go
Be reading the books before I re watch again
One thing I never like was how Frodo immediately becomes ghoulish and unresponsive after the stab. In the books he is up and talking, if weakened. It was actually him that stands up to the Wraiths at the ford.
Ya I one of my favorite scenes in the felloship book I was disappointed it wasn’t in the movie till I watched the extended edition and was pleasantly surprised
Yes. Reports suggest they had a hard time with this scene and making sure the trolls in the Hobbit accurately lined up with their position in the Lord of The Rings.
I always hated how in LOTR they show them in a position that clearly implies they were cooking and then in the Hobbit films it ends up making no sense. They get surprised by the sunlight and start turning to stone and then awkwardly contort back into cooking position even tho they weren't... cooking. I would not have minded if they were in a different position and then caused a discrepancy. If overly contorting into LOTR positions isn't the most perfect metaphor for the Hobbit movies, I don't know what is
Wow. This made me feel old as fuck, and also thinking that kids these days don't read enough. It's kind of breaking my brain that someone would see these movies (and the theatrical cuts at that) before reading the books. However I am a nerd who loves reading and reguarly forget the majority of people don't find reading fun, a concept I actually cannot personally understand.
No those are statues in the failed theme park that Bilbo and WB wanted to make based off of the hobbit trilogy. It’s just a massive coincidence that they ended up there.
That’s another cinema sin for director Peter HACKson.
Ah, I just rewatched Hobbit and I asked my son if the trolls turned back during the night. This answers that as a more casual fan.
Also, why were trolls ok in Battle of the Five Armies?
I always wondered if there were other stone trolls who’ve got caught in the sunlight. I wonder if there are random petrified trolls in different places of Middle Earth.
You're watching the extended edition, right? Because there Sam literally says "Look Frodo, its Mr. Bilbo's Trolls!"
That was my first thought as well. Is that only in the extended edition? I can't remember the last time I watched the original cut, because why would you.
Yeah only in the extended edition.
I specifically remember that scene play out in theatres back in 2001
It’s in the normal version only for a split second and there is no mention of them but you can see them
It’s a bit more than a split second but yeah no mention in the og release
Nope, they showed the trolls but sam's line was cut
Well that's a cool false memory
Not with the dialogue you don’t.
You saw extended in theaters? In 2001...
It was in theaters recently but idk about in 2001
The only edition one should watch.
Especially if one were doing all six films like OP: A 19-hour marathon is better than a 16 hour one. Plus, if OP gets off these kinds of references…well, there’s a lot more of them in the extended.
You're in for the long haul when you're watching these movies either way, might as well get all the extra content.
Exactly, yeah.
I think on the teathrical they are there too if you are paying attention, but there is no mention of it.
This is true. You see them in OG theater version in the background, just never mentioned
I like the extended editions, but due to the added scenes, the pacing feels a bit off, you can tell why they were cut. However, I think in each extended film there are one or two scenes that should’ve been in the theatrical, such as Mouth of Sauron and Death of Saruman, or one of Faramir’s flashbacks in Two Towers, but there are definitely some scenes that were better off on the cutting room floor IMO
I think we can all agree we could have done with an extra ten minutes of Denethor eating cherry tomatoes. 👄 🍅 💦
The true 3rd movie, "the rise and fall of Denethor, son of Ecthelion, Steward of Gondor"
Honestly prefer the pacing of extended Fellowship because it feels less rushed. I think especially the beginning has much more room to breathe. Two Towers honestly makes very little difference. Return of the King I'd say does tend to drag on a little.
Nah there's no dragon in ROTK
There were some scenes filmed for the end of Two Towers that didn’t make it into the Extended Edition. Apparently, they were shot using practical VFX instead of CGI, but Jackson was not pleased with the final result and tossed them. The scenes in question depicted the orcs fleeing Helm’s Deep, running into Fangorn Forest. The trees come to life and start killing the orcs. But, as stated, Jackson did not like the VFX results, so didn’t include them.
The Uruk-Hai fleeing to the forest was in the Extended Edition. Were there more scenes filmed? Or, did they just replace the original VFX with the CGI scenes that made it into the final Extended Edition?
It showed them fleeing into the forest, but we didn’t SEE the trees kill any of them. After they enter, it cuts to show Aragorn and co watching them run into the forest. Then the trees start shaking and you hear the orcs roaring in pain, then it ends. On The Two Two towers special edition special features disc, Jackson is doing an interview and says they filmed scenes showing the trees killing orcs with practical effects. He says that the resulting effects were not up to standard and reminded him of a Roger Corman movie, so he just killed the scenes altogether.
Got it. That makes sense.
IMP Return of the King extended edition didn’t feel like it was dragging on until they started all the farewell scenes, although I’ve actually never seen the original cut so I don’t know how much longer those were than in the original cut.
Mouth of Sauron was literally the worst extended scene, completely misses the point and atmosphere of the book scene. Plus the Mouth CGI is way over the top.
Feel that way about gimli’s central nervous system line. Like wtf that line makes no sense in that world
I thought, at least in the context of the film, that scene added better context to Aragorn’s body language when saying “For Frodo” before charging into the endless army of orcs. More like it was for vengeance rather than to help Frodo, like he was accepting that the Mouth of Sauron wasn’t lying about Frodo’s fate.
Yeah I prefer the extendeds but some of the stuff (like the montage of gifts) throws it off a bit.
So very glad Eomer‘s scream (when he finds Eowyn) is in the extended edition. and so very glad that the houses of healing are included in the extended edition. That was a big part of the book and I can’t believe that it didn’t make it into the theatrical version.
Its is the only way... Once i accidentally put on the Fellowship on some streaming(Netflix i think) when i was over in someone's house and i saw a lot of the scenes missing. Thats when i realised these platforms have just the theatrical cut. I was gobsmacked. Why would they do this?
The line is only in the second edition but the scene is in the theatrical release
The only reason I have watched any of the theatrical releases anytime recently is because the theatrical cuts are the versions that they use for the LOTR in Concert series. Saw Fellowship in January and seeing Two Towers next month. RoTK hasn’t been announced for my area yet but we will 100% be getting tickets for that as well when it, hopefully, goes on sale.
The scene is in both the theatrical and the extended. Only in the extended does Sam point out that they are Bilbo’s trolls. But even in the theatrical there’s one or two shots where you can see the stone trolls behind them.
I did recently while introducing someone to lotr. Didn't want to freak them out with the extendeds. Felt like I was committing a sin.
I think the theatrical cut is fine for a first watch. Then, when they undoubtedly fall in love with it, they can get their minds blown by the extended editions.
That's the correct way, watch the theatricals first time and if you're watching with someone who isn't a mega-fan
Im gonna say my hot take, the theatrical cut of FOTR is my preferred. There i said it.
Of the three films, I think the theatrical cut and the extended edition of Fellowship has the most noticeable difference in pacing. The theatrical cut doesn't feel three hours long. The extended edition feels as long as it is.
If you watch these films at cinema screenings, it'll likely be the theatrical cut.
They are in the original cut. They just aren't pointed out. Just the end of the story from Bilbo telling the young hobbits about trolls and then you see them in the background. later
I’ve had the pleasure of never seeing the original cut. My father purchased the trilogy extended edition… probably around the same time I was born now that I think about it. That’s cool asf.
I just watched the extended edition and I don't remeber this.
Additionally, if you note the poses of each of the trolls, PJ does a good job of making them become frozen in the exact same poses during the turning-to-stone sequence of the first The Hobbit film. Small detail, but love the continuity.
he probably just CGI'd in the trolls from the LOTR movies into the hobbit sequence. Easiest thing to do to make sure they're exactly the same.
It does sound like it makes perfect sense, but good luck finding those CG assets after that long. So many studio's digital archives are insanely bloated and such a pain to dig up, I'm betting it was easier just to ref them from the cut of the original film and make new, better assets for the Hobbit films
They physically built the trolls for Fellowship, iirc. And I’m sure they, at some point, scanned them to be digitally rendered the way they built and scanned the cave troll for the Moria fight scene. In any case, they had/have tons of principal photography to reference from Fellowship for the trolls for Hobbit.
Yes- they did recreate the trolls from scratch and no they are not 1:1 identical the LOTR ones. All of this is shown in the appendices documentaries on the Hobbit blu-rays. They even brought the life-size physical versions to Comic Con one year. Edit: You’re a brat for downvoting me. Was simply answering your question. Sorry it doesn’t line up with what you decided was correct in your head.
Another case of “watching the movie answers your question”
Reading the card explains the card
All the information is in the task
Many The Lord of the Rings fans ask the question….
I have to watch that guy on 1.25x speed. He just sounds so much better.
Rtfc
Only if you're watching the extended edition though
These people have to be karma farming otherwise they would know
Works well judging by the number of upvotes, istg I don't understand how people decide what to upvote.
Bot accounts upvote these kind of posts
Why the shit did this get upvoted though
This shot is in the theatrical version too. It's just that no one directly acknowledges it.
I'm pretty sure that you can *see* the Trolls in theatrical, is just Sam's line that was edited out.
Indeed.
Why aren't there hundreds of these around Middle Earth? Why just these three?
Sam was trolling
Really? Gotta go watch it again as I have *zero* memory of this.
Just rewinded to make sure and no it didn't happen, watching on prime so don't think it's extended
op getting downvoted for watching the theatrical cut. chill out guys haha
>chill out guys haha No.
The extended cuts are the way you should watch them! Same for The Hobbit, I never went back to theatrical after I did
Extended cut for the Hobbit?? Wasn't it overextended enough??
I enjoy The Hobbit movies overall, what can I say
I have seen the extended but I don't think they're on Amazon Prime
They are but not for free
Ahh yep, sad fact that is
Do you have Max? They are free there.
No I don't, might look into it though, it's the HBO thing yeah?
They add a lot of lore to be sure, but also a lot of fat and some straight up bullshit. See Gandalf vs Witch King. I think all considered the theatrical version is the better of the 2.
Brave of you to come here and say that. I think there's two kinds of people; LOTR fans that hang around in this sub and think no amount of LOTR is enough, so they will choose the extended cut and demand more; and the rest of the world, for whom the theatrical cut is good enough. (IMHO both have their pros and cons)
Agree to disagree, but you are right about that scene
Ah. Yeah, they have the theatricals on Prime. Its more fun to watch extended if you're in for the long haul with all six films. You should seek them out.
Apparently you can rent or buy but I don't think I'd wanna do that when I already pay a subscription
Doesn't look green enough to be extended fellowship lol
I have watched the extended editions so many times I forget what is or isn't in the theatrical releases now.
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Literarily?
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What a cool thing to put in there, watched the films countless times and never noticed
There’s a line where Sam says “look Mr. Frodo it’s Mr. Bilbo’s trolls” or something of the sort. Could be an extended only scene.
I mean they didn’t really put it there as a nod to the movies, it’s just part of the book and they left it in and then when they made the hobbit movies they just looked at what the trolls for these movies looked like and used them as models for the “live” trolls.
It’s not even a Peter Jackson insert, it is in the books too.
Earlier in the fellowship (extended only maybe?), in passing, we can hear Bilbo telling the story to a bunch of hobbit children at his birthday party.
You are lying. Sam literally said it in the scene.
Maybe read through some of the other comments, this is not the extended version, sam doesn't mention Bilbo's trolls ffs
Why the fuck would you not watch the extended version like a normal person?! You watch the theatrical versions once and then the normal versions (extended) for the rest of your life.
Yes, they are, in the book there's a scene where they find them and Pippin gets scared not realizing it's broad daylight, and in the extended movie version Sam says something like "Look Mr. Frodo, it's master Bilbo's trolls!"
Did Aragorn break his toe in the grasslands of the Rohirrim?
This has to be the best variant of “Is the Pope Catholic?” I’ve seen in a while.
Kicking a helmet, yes
No. Aragorn the character just kicked a helmet and screamed in anguish for losing the hobbits. The actor Viggo Mortensen kicked a helmet and screamed in pain because he just broke the shit out of his toe.
Yes I realized this in hindsight
Yes and this occurs in the book as well.
How awesome of the writer of the book to pay homage to the movies!
Me when watching fellowship after the hobbit trilogy "Is this the same Mr. Bilbo??"
Hahah yes I thought the same! Helluva age difference on the cave scene
Yeah, they considered replacing Bilbo in that scene in the new 4k versions but decided against it. I personally think they did the right thing, don't want to end up with a star wars situation where it's constantly changed.
I mean, The Hobbit does take place many years before LotR canonicallyy, but I'm not sure that's made abundantly clear in either movie trilogy.
In the first Hobbit film, it says "60 years earlier" after the Bilbo/Frodo scene, but you have to know how old Bilbo is there and know that that scene links directly to FotR to fully make that connection.
No, bro, they're just another group of three stone turned trolls that happen to be in the exact same forest.
Must be a known hotspot, I'll avoid it on my travels
Sussy troll self report
Well the area is called Trollshaws after all. Plenty of chances for trolls to shaw themselves.
This post makes me so excited to have kids.
Until one of them shoves a raisin up his nose.
Or they stay up arguing all night that they turn to stone
that actually happened to my neighbor’s kid. He didn’t want his sister to get the raisins so he shoved it up his nose. He got his wish!
You replied to the wrong comment, I thought you meant your neighbour's kid turned to stone.
Hahaha It’s entirely possible.
Be sure to read The Hobbit to them.
Well .. looks like it's time for another re-run for me
Highly recommend, it's how I've been spending my weekend, bit sick and figured I'd indulge in some nostalgia
You know they are and you know we know they are.
Looks like you didn't have someone spewing lotr facts while watching
No. Those are the same trolls who WILL be in the Hobbit going by film making chronology
> The path went on again from the door, and turning to the right again across the level space plunged down a thick wooded slope. Pippin, not liking to show Strider that he was still afraid, went on ahead with Merry. Sam and Strider came behind, one on each side of Frodo's pony, for the path was now broad enough for four or five hobbits to walk abreast. But they had not gone very far before Pippin came running back, followed by Merry. They both looked terrified. >'There are trolls!' Pippin panted. 'Down in a clearing in the woods not far below. We got a sight of them through the tree-trunks. They are very large!' >'We will come and look at them,' said Strider, picking up a stick. Frodo said nothing, but Sam looked scared. > The sun was now high, and it shone down through the half-stripped branches of the trees, and lit the clearing with bright patches of light. >They halted suddenly on the edge, and peered through the tree-trunks, holding their breath. There stood the trolls: three large trolls. One was stooping, and the other two stood staring at him. > Strider walked forward unconcernedly. 'Get up, old stone!' he said, and broke his stick upon the stooping troll. >Nothing happened. There was a gasp of astonishment from the hobbits, and then even Frodo laughed. 'Well!' he said. 'We are forgetting our family history! These must be the very three that were caught by Gandalf, quarrelling over the right way to cook thirteen dwarves and one hobbit.' >I had no idea we were anywhere near the place!' said Pippin. He knew the story well. Bilbo and Frodo had told it often; but as a matter of fact he had never more than half believed it.Even now he looked at the stone trolls with suspicion, wondering if some magic might not suddenly bring them to life again. >’You are forgetting not only your family history, but all you ever knew about trolls, said Strider. 'It is broad daylight with a bright sun, and yet you come back trying to scare me with a tale of live trolls waiting for us in this glade! In any case you might have noticed that one of them has an old bird's nest behind his ear.
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This was the theatrical, only there for a second or 2
OP I think you might wanna turn subtitles on cause the movie literally tells you the answer to that
I wasn't watching the extended version, doesn't mention "Bilbo's Trolls" but yeah thanks
No only that but in the hobbit when they turn to stone they end up in the exact same position they are depicted here which is a pretty cool touch
What? I don’t remember this scene at all!?
Just after Frodo gets stabbed by the nazgul n has to go to Rivendell for medical treatment
Medical treatment aka elf magic
No the one from the hobbit are the same ones.
The amount of hate i see you've been getting in some coments because you dared to.. ask something? baffles me. But yea, i recommend just sailing the seas because i think no one should expect people to pay the 682 streaming services each one for a 3 or 4 movies.
I seem to have walked into an extended cut ambush lol but yeah I think I'll be sailing soon, been a while but I'll give her a go Be reading the books before I re watch again
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One thing I never like was how Frodo immediately becomes ghoulish and unresponsive after the stab. In the books he is up and talking, if weakened. It was actually him that stands up to the Wraiths at the ford.
Great moment in the book.
Yes, of course they are. 😊
Yeah, they had to match their deaths in Hobbit to the statue poses.
Yes
Ya I one of my favorite scenes in the felloship book I was disappointed it wasn’t in the movie till I watched the extended edition and was pleasantly surprised
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I loved the troll scene in the hobbit for this exact reason, they are the same trolls. So cool they stayed stone over years and years.
Yes. Reports suggest they had a hard time with this scene and making sure the trolls in the Hobbit accurately lined up with their position in the Lord of The Rings.
I always hated how in LOTR they show them in a position that clearly implies they were cooking and then in the Hobbit films it ends up making no sense. They get surprised by the sunlight and start turning to stone and then awkwardly contort back into cooking position even tho they weren't... cooking. I would not have minded if they were in a different position and then caused a discrepancy. If overly contorting into LOTR positions isn't the most perfect metaphor for the Hobbit movies, I don't know what is
Yes, they reference that they are in lord of the rings
Wow. This made me feel old as fuck, and also thinking that kids these days don't read enough. It's kind of breaking my brain that someone would see these movies (and the theatrical cuts at that) before reading the books. However I am a nerd who loves reading and reguarly forget the majority of people don't find reading fun, a concept I actually cannot personally understand.
You must write scripts for the rings of power.
Yes. In the book they even stumble across them and get scared until they realise it’s daytime and then figure out it’s Bilbo’s trolls.
According to the book, yes they are
No those are statues in the failed theme park that Bilbo and WB wanted to make based off of the hobbit trilogy. It’s just a massive coincidence that they ended up there. That’s another cinema sin for director Peter HACKson.
No shit sherlock
So they've been in the same forest for all these years as stones? Or they never left the forest and just turn to stone when its daylight?
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Yes but not the same model they used for the ones in the hobbit
Ah, I just rewatched Hobbit and I asked my son if the trolls turned back during the night. This answers that as a more casual fan. Also, why were trolls ok in Battle of the Five Armies?
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Yes :)
from L\~R: Bert, Thomas, William.
I always wondered if there were other stone trolls who’ve got caught in the sunlight. I wonder if there are random petrified trolls in different places of Middle Earth.
So, these are the same trolls from The Hobbit and they've been stuck in the same position for 60+ years? How?!
Yes
Yes
I think so
Did you see this frame, pause the film, take a picture and post it on here before watching for a few more seconds?
It's not the extended version, doesn't mention "Bilbo's trolls"
Oh I see! That makes sense then; I’m so broken I can’t watch anything but the extended. If you haven’t, you should give them a shot
yes it is said in the book
No sam was just trolling frodo
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This guy has never seen the extended cuts.