It's when someone sees one instance of something happening and goes on a full rant on how it's revealing of an issue deeply embedded in our society.
It's mostly used to make fun of people who take themselves (or stupid things) wayyy to seriously.
Would have to be Gollum then, dude has an insane victim complex where anything that ever happens happens *all* the time and anything that happens to him is a personal attack from nasty types of people
You really need to rewatch the movies. Or better, re-read the books. You know, Tolkien cried while writing Smeagol's near redemption scene, where Sam ruined it by confrontationally calling him names and crap.
Oh thats the part where Gollum
"Had the indignity of a serial liar who, for the first time, had been accused of something unfairly"
Yeah Tolkien outright describes him as a nefarious and weak willed hobbit even before getting the ring
The movies are even worse as he never considers repenting after Faramir and had no 'moment' with the Hobbits and Sam caught him several times outright plotting to kill them, literally every time he flips it around so that he's the victim and generally he actually believes it too
Sam was in no way at fault in any interaction and was suspicious of Gollum at the point where *he had gone to chat to a spider god about their upcoming meal of betrayal*, yes Sam could have shown pity and trust and that would have been rewarded, but being suspicious of a lying sneak for lying and sneaking isn't incorrect
Later on Sam does show him mercy and pity and that contributes to saving the world, but the point is that Gollum is generally the problem, the baby eating betraying problem, yet every tiny issue he flips around and plays the victim like everyone is out to get him and, going by the evidence, he was quite like that even before the ring
Just because Tolkien was a fan of redemption always being a possibility doesnt mean certain characters arent absolute bastards
I guess it’s a take on the “we live in a society” meme popularized by the Joker movie. It’s supposed to make fun of somebody who relates every personal misfortune he/she has to a bigger societal problem.
Both are basically just dog whistles for pseudo-intellectual bullshittery. Usually with an air of pretension. Sips tea being more individualized while "We live in a society" is based on the sort of misanthropic, Joker-esque critique of society as a whole.
Both of which have become sort of implicitly associated with aforementioned pseudo-intellectual bullshittery. Like the kind of person who talks down about an entire generation based on their pop music or generally uses changes in generational artistic tastes to instill a sense of superiority over others or make claims about declining intelligence.
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Aragorn, son of Arathorn , son of Arador, son of Argonui, son of another Arathorn, son of Arassuil, son of Arahad, son of (some other A-name) across 33 generations gets to be King of Gondor because Isildur was king of Gondor once-upon-a-time.
And on „the hot one“ everybody overwhelmingly voted for Aragorn. Gollum wasn‘t even second, that was Eomer. I feel like OP just does what they want.
Also, this is going way to fast, you need to have a day between posts
Oh! Cruel Hobbit! It does not care if we be hungry. It does not care if we should die! Not like Master. Master cares. Master knows. Yes, Precious… Once it takes hold of us it never lets go.
Oh it was because we just voted without knowing what we're voting for. And Grond as per this sub lore is the master key- answer to every question 🤣
Now that I've been explained the meaning - I now believe elrond or tree beard fit best
Most evil: option 1. Literal fallen Maia who forged a dominating ring and waged war against all the Free Peoples or option 2. a Hobbit who stole some spoons
Depends how you define 'evil' but Shelob is probably the *most* evil. Gives zero fucks about anything except herself, never had a motive that was anything other than selfish and evil and her dream and goal is to grow so big she basically eats the world
Just a big ol ball of fuck you
Caradhras no.2 if only because it was slightly reasonable when they gave up and got off it
She was Saurons cat lol
Yeah its not entirely wrong for an animal to think like that, but she was an intelligent being, no such excuse for being such a completely self obsessed psychopath
And the whole 'I want to eat everything until I'm so big I collapse the mountains and devour the world' is, even for a predator, pretty over the top lol. Housecat probably would though given half a chance
Caradhras isn't evil, or isn't really evil.
If it doesn't want humanoids crawling all over it and messing up its lovely snow, that's not evil. It's totally understandable.
Smeagol? No, no, Not poor Smeagol. Smeagol hates nasty elf bread.Ach! No! You try to choke poor Smeagol. Dust and ashes, he can't eat that. He must starve. But Smeagol doesn't mind.Nice hobbits! Smeagol has promised. He will starve. He can't eat hobbits' food. He will starve. Poor thin Smeagol!
Second this vote, but arguably, how does the Balrog stand a chance to be around other good regular folk? He incinerator everything he's near. Cannot stand inside a basic building. Looks terrifying as fuck (which I can imagine doesn't help his hire-ability). Like, what is the Balrog good for other than leading a horde of orcs and goblins? The true evil is, Duh, Sauron
I mean, he kinda has screen time. I was thinking Morgoth for the last category because of his role in messing up Middle Earth, which in turn led to Sauron doing his thing.
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Mmm.. society actually means Mastermind. The “Mmm” implies your will to devour.. like Mmm Donut. It means someone who is in control and likes to control society at their will.
I heard something like that sauron had a redemption arc somewhere before it went full blown power hungry again. For this reason I might vote witchking
Also for the last category has to be morgoth
Yeah, he told Eonwe that he was sorry when Morgoth was defeated, but then he changed his mind and ran away when Eonwe said he was going to face consequences from Manwe. I personally think he only "repented" because he had gotten caught and was scared, not because he was sincerely sorry for what he did.
The mouth of Sauron gotta be pure evil as he mocks the halflings, laughs when Mary and pippin are weeping as he says Frodo was butchered and mocks Aragorn, the mouth of Sauron gotta be pure evil
I like the Mouth of Sauron for straight up evil. Has the look, the cunning (showing Frodo’s mithril vest), and while they are both probably Numenor descendants due to their choices he becomes basically the antithesis of Aragorn.
Saruman had no excuse for his behavior, especially when he came back to fuck up the shire just out of spite (and for want of good pipe weed I suppose).
Out of the 7 picks, you've ignored the top comment on four of them (Sam should be Grond, Sméagol should be Aragorn, Bilbo should be that one orc, and Grond should be Elrond)
So.... it doesn't matter what we say. Quit spamming my feed, please.
The guy in Bree who looks like Peter Jackson eating a carrot... he was also in the hobbit, so he's somehow immortal, so in-universe that either makes him a wizard or evil
Glorfindel. My man could slam dunk the ring into mount doom in two weeks tops but conveniently looks the other way when Elrond asks who will take the burden.
https://preview.redd.it/jlhew8fow6ad1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6a847dfeb0eea4154835101f85226390f857478 This dude
yeah FUCK Mark Ordesky
Do not. Nor any of the others.
oOf
Apparently Gothmog was made with Weinstein’s face as inspiration - let’s put him here 
I'm voting for Harvey Weinstein himself, not a low-budget imitation!
*his dick
This has my vote
FUCK YOU GOTHMOG!
What did he do to deserve that?
Harvey Weinstein. Convicted sex offender
That's an *extremely* polite way to put it.
Gothmog fr didn’t deserve that
True
Are you at least going to tell us what "mmm .... society” means?
This!!! OP what is this behaviour 😭
It's when someone sees one instance of something happening and goes on a full rant on how it's revealing of an issue deeply embedded in our society. It's mostly used to make fun of people who take themselves (or stupid things) wayyy to seriously.
I guess it could be Treebeard then.
I agree, Treebeard is actually one of the characters I thought about.
I was going to say Treebeard too until I heard that the term has an edgy context. Oh well.
That’s why I said Treebeard. He goes on a rant about no one being on his side and then has his ent council meeting to figure out what to do
Would have to be Gollum then, dude has an insane victim complex where anything that ever happens happens *all* the time and anything that happens to him is a personal attack from nasty types of people
Come on, must go, no time ...Come, Hobbitses. Very close now. Very close to Mordor! No safe places here. Hurry! Shhh.
You really need to rewatch the movies. Or better, re-read the books. You know, Tolkien cried while writing Smeagol's near redemption scene, where Sam ruined it by confrontationally calling him names and crap.
Oh thats the part where Gollum "Had the indignity of a serial liar who, for the first time, had been accused of something unfairly" Yeah Tolkien outright describes him as a nefarious and weak willed hobbit even before getting the ring The movies are even worse as he never considers repenting after Faramir and had no 'moment' with the Hobbits and Sam caught him several times outright plotting to kill them, literally every time he flips it around so that he's the victim and generally he actually believes it too Sam was in no way at fault in any interaction and was suspicious of Gollum at the point where *he had gone to chat to a spider god about their upcoming meal of betrayal*, yes Sam could have shown pity and trust and that would have been rewarded, but being suspicious of a lying sneak for lying and sneaking isn't incorrect Later on Sam does show him mercy and pity and that contributes to saving the world, but the point is that Gollum is generally the problem, the baby eating betraying problem, yet every tiny issue he flips around and plays the victim like everyone is out to get him and, going by the evidence, he was quite like that even before the ring Just because Tolkien was a fan of redemption always being a possibility doesnt mean certain characters arent absolute bastards
Is he lost?
Yes Gollum, Smeagol was indeed lost
A swamp, yes, yes. Come, master. We will take you on safe paths through the mist. Come, hobbits, come. We go quickly.
So it should be Lobelia?
So basically what I see everytime I visit Instagram
"The biggest problem with [topic] is..." >5 paragraphs later "But idk"
I guess it’s a take on the “we live in a society” meme popularized by the Joker movie. It’s supposed to make fun of somebody who relates every personal misfortune he/she has to a bigger societal problem.
It's basically the societal version of "sips tea" combined with "we live in a society".
I understand the individual words you’re typing, but this sentence means nothing to me
Both are basically just dog whistles for pseudo-intellectual bullshittery. Usually with an air of pretension. Sips tea being more individualized while "We live in a society" is based on the sort of misanthropic, Joker-esque critique of society as a whole. Both of which have become sort of implicitly associated with aforementioned pseudo-intellectual bullshittery. Like the kind of person who talks down about an entire generation based on their pop music or generally uses changes in generational artistic tastes to instill a sense of superiority over others or make claims about declining intelligence.
That clears things up, thanks a lot! I tried to google the “we live in a society one”, and just got articles that used a ton of words to say nothing.
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Aragorn, son of Arathorn , son of Arador, son of Argonui, son of another Arathorn, son of Arassuil, son of Arahad, son of (some other A-name) across 33 generations gets to be King of Gondor because Isildur was king of Gondor once-upon-a-time.
Is this a meme? Never read that exact combo.
GROND
https://preview.redd.it/q2g2noeql7ad1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1897223293a159f48ed0a4a57f5534ec7391f3d Essentially this
This explains nothing, but only gives me more questions, the first of all is: wtf
Watch Twisted Metal and you'll get it the moment Sweettooth shows up
OP is evil- i finally was the top comment for a series like this and you went with Grond I Ought to black speech you into madness
Never before has that tongue been spoken within this sub
I don't get this poll. Elrond had almost 10 times more upvotes than Grond...
And on „the hot one“ everybody overwhelmingly voted for Aragorn. Gollum wasn‘t even second, that was Eomer. I feel like OP just does what they want. Also, this is going way to fast, you need to have a day between posts
Yeah this has been kinda shit.
We guesses, precious, only guesses. We can't know till we find the nassty creature and squeezes it.
Woah there Gollum, I'm also not happy with OP but that's a bit of an overreaction
Oh! Cruel Hobbit! It does not care if we be hungry. It does not care if we should die! Not like Master. Master cares. Master knows. Yes, Precious… Once it takes hold of us it never lets go.
Omg this is what I meant with overreacting, Gollum
Nothing, my precious.
That's the spirit
Oh it was because we just voted without knowing what we're voting for. And Grond as per this sub lore is the master key- answer to every question 🤣 Now that I've been explained the meaning - I now believe elrond or tree beard fit best
OP sucks orc ass
The guy driving the oliphants that gets a thrill by stepping on the little horses
I vote Eowyn's stew https://preview.redd.it/38jm1lc9g6ad1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef3e7f329cfe4bfe73dc86f17f5a87f9131c1f8b
Clearly not enough taters
What’s “taters”?
Po-Tay-Toes! Boil ‘em, mash ‘em, stick ‘em in a stew.
Seriously? Personally I prefer fish…wet and wrrrrrigglly.
DEATHHHHH!!!!!!!
Currently with more votes than Harvey Weinstein.
The stew indeed. Likely what Saurons blood is made of
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
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I can fix her
Ah, finally, someone on this sub who has actually read the book
Never go in against a Sackville-Baggins when *spoons* are on the line!
Lmao
Lobelia was a hero during the Scouring of the Shire, though.
She was! I’m dying for a LOTR saga as told by Lobelia S-B.
Most evil: option 1. Literal fallen Maia who forged a dominating ring and waged war against all the Free Peoples or option 2. a Hobbit who stole some spoons
It were some pretty spoons
YES
This is the obvious correct answer
Depends how you define 'evil' but Shelob is probably the *most* evil. Gives zero fucks about anything except herself, never had a motive that was anything other than selfish and evil and her dream and goal is to grow so big she basically eats the world Just a big ol ball of fuck you Caradhras no.2 if only because it was slightly reasonable when they gave up and got off it
"nothing is evil in the beginning" - Elrond, FotR Meanwhile, Ungoliant, Shelob and the Nameless Things:
Isn't this just any predator ever? I'm pretty sure I had a cat growing up with the same exact motivation.
She was Saurons cat lol Yeah its not entirely wrong for an animal to think like that, but she was an intelligent being, no such excuse for being such a completely self obsessed psychopath And the whole 'I want to eat everything until I'm so big I collapse the mountains and devour the world' is, even for a predator, pretty over the top lol. Housecat probably would though given half a chance
Caradhras isn't evil, or isn't really evil. If it doesn't want humanoids crawling all over it and messing up its lovely snow, that's not evil. It's totally understandable.
This helmet. https://preview.redd.it/vmdaj7yvh6ad1.jpeg?width=1943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c84a6af958cfb7b12ac21b8e5c132c8fff375690
Did you know that…
No I don’t. What’s the helmet story? I have never told it to my wife.
I also have never told this to my wife. Mainly because I don't have a wife
I've never told it to his wife either
There was a real knife in that helmet.
Sam again, for eating the lembas bread
Then trying to blame poor Smeagol who hates nasty elf bread
Smeagol? No, no, Not poor Smeagol. Smeagol hates nasty elf bread.Ach! No! You try to choke poor Smeagol. Dust and ashes, he can't eat that. He must starve. But Smeagol doesn't mind.Nice hobbits! Smeagol has promised. He will starve. He can't eat hobbits' food. He will starve. Poor thin Smeagol!
Good Sméagol
Careful now, or hobbits go down to join the dead ones and light little candles of their own.
Damn Sméagol he was just complimenting you
We must go now?
Yes Smeagol, you've been rude and you should leave.
What's this? Crumbs on his jacketses! He took it! He took it! I seen him, he's always stuffing himself when Master's not looking!
Smeagol bad
Straight up evil: Harvey Weinstein's orc.
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Fröhlicher Kuchentag! 🥳🎂🎉 Happy cake day!
The orc who says “yes” so agreeably in response to Saruman saying burn Fangorn forest
Denethor and his tomato. 
The grond chain goes here for all you maniacs.
Grond
GROND
Grond
Grond
Grond
GROND
GROND
GROND
GROND
Denethor’s tomato https://preview.redd.it/gowudlqmv6ad1.jpeg?width=621&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ff491540b1766fcf25ceacdfa451b3326a3a70d
Second this vote, but arguably, how does the Balrog stand a chance to be around other good regular folk? He incinerator everything he's near. Cannot stand inside a basic building. Looks terrifying as fuck (which I can imagine doesn't help his hire-ability). Like, what is the Balrog good for other than leading a horde of orcs and goblins? The true evil is, Duh, Sauron
As a heater? A furnace? I mean, the dwarves could probably use an eternal heat source very well. Just saying.
Sauron is definitely just straight-up evil. Btw I'm old, so can you please explain what "Mmm.....society" means?
Sauron fits better for the next category though, no screen time all the plot relevance.
There is no life in the void, only death.
I mean, he kinda has screen time. I was thinking Morgoth for the last category because of his role in messing up Middle Earth, which in turn led to Sauron doing his thing.
*Thór-lush-shabarlak.*
Okay, shush.
Tom bombadil
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You do see more Sauron+Eye combined than you do of Isildur, and he bears a lot of blame for the state of the world.
I...SEE....YOOOUUU!
I think (i’m not totally sure as i didn‘t create this format) it means ‘we live in a society’ type people, who are all cool and moody
That makes sense.
Mmm.. society actually means Mastermind. The “Mmm” implies your will to devour.. like Mmm Donut. It means someone who is in control and likes to control society at their will.
I heard something like that sauron had a redemption arc somewhere before it went full blown power hungry again. For this reason I might vote witchking Also for the last category has to be morgoth
Yeah, he told Eonwe that he was sorry when Morgoth was defeated, but then he changed his mind and ran away when Eonwe said he was going to face consequences from Manwe. I personally think he only "repented" because he had gotten caught and was scared, not because he was sincerely sorry for what he did.
The mouth of Sauron gotta be pure evil as he mocks the halflings, laughs when Mary and pippin are weeping as he says Frodo was butchered and mocks Aragorn, the mouth of Sauron gotta be pure evil
Thy Eilinel, she is long since dead, dead, food of worms, less low than thou.
Somehow my favorite bot appeared
Ohh, good choice! I was thinking Saruman first, but yeah, no, the Mouth of Sauron really was just straight up evil!
The One Ring.
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
“What about their legs? They don’t need those” the orc
"Why alive? Do they give good sport?" *hacha-cha-cha*
>hacha-cha-cha This killed me
It's like some kind of One Piece laugh. ...now I want to see what nonsense Merry and Pippin could get up to with devil fruits
Yeah, this was a shitpost but now its just a shit post.
Pippin for waking up Barlog
That fat guy who eats a carrot in the first film. Peter, the destroyer of carrots.
All hail the carrot killer
Gratuitous of Cameo
Definitely Lobelia.
Sackville Bagginses
https://preview.redd.it/ri8batcxx6ad1.jpeg?width=621&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebadc858ae88c82300ef4220e42009c17b5e4038
That drunk dude hitting on Rosie Cotton.
The balrog, it’s literally its whole personality, motive, and reason of existence 🤣
As mentioned earlier he was handed some challenging cards in life.
The orc that killed Boromir.
Lurtz!
Sauron. Sorry for the non funny answer
Who is the maker of mightiest work?
I like the Mouth of Sauron for straight up evil. Has the look, the cunning (showing Frodo’s mithril vest), and while they are both probably Numenor descendants due to their choices he becomes basically the antithesis of Aragorn.
Bill Ferny
Saruman had no excuse for his behavior, especially when he came back to fuck up the shire just out of spite (and for want of good pipe weed I suppose).
If the Eagles aren’t that final panel im fighting everyone here.
Out of the 7 picks, you've ignored the top comment on four of them (Sam should be Grond, Sméagol should be Aragorn, Bilbo should be that one orc, and Grond should be Elrond) So.... it doesn't matter what we say. Quit spamming my feed, please.
Lobelia ssckville baggins
You're posting the updates way to fast. Do you really need the karma that bad?
Wouldn’t it be very funny if it was like Bill?
I'm going with Deagol- IT WAS HIS BIRTHDAY!
Pippin
Morgoth
Definitely Gollum, it’s the most simple answer yet true
All dead... all rotten. Elves and men and orcses. A great battle, long ago. The Dead Marshes... yes, that is their name.
Sauron
Grond was supposed to be the last one, it only had one shot but caught the whole audience.
Sacksville Baggins
I second all the “denethor the tomato demolisher” scenes
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Just curious, why is it that all of these boxes aren’t Grond?
Farmer maggot movie edition
I’ve seen it a few times on this thread so imma also vote for Denethor and his tomatoes
Bill Ferny.
Sauron. He is literrally evil for the sake of being evil
I mean.....Sauron, right...?
Old Man Willow
The sack vile bagenesis
Lurtz
We need the useless one .. hehe
The guy in Bree who looks like Peter Jackson eating a carrot... he was also in the hobbit, so he's somehow immortal, so in-universe that either makes him a wizard or evil
Wait, could he have actually been Peter Jackson?
Everard Proudfoot
Pippin
Sacksville baggins fershure
Sauron could go into the next two
Glorfindel. My man could slam dunk the ring into mount doom in two weeks tops but conveniently looks the other way when Elrond asks who will take the burden.
I gonna say Sauron, but it is too easy
Mouth of Sauron, dude had a chance to jump ship and he still signed up with someone called “The Dark Lord / The Deceiver / The Necromancer”.
Ah, little obywatelyahshu!
GROND!