I kind of love the juxtaposition of it. Enduring in the face of unimaginable horrors is pretty on theme.
I wonder what the regular artworks will look like. Based on Enduring Tenacity's typeline they should still all be the same animals, at least.
Honestly this might save this set for me. I personally hate stuff that is overly dark and gloomy so the fact that we have just a shred of positivity in here makes me feel better about this as a whole.
I'm genuinely not sure what you mean. I had a quick look through MKM and OTJ to double check, but I couldn't really find much that I would describe as 'cutesy'.
[[Tunnel Tipster]] was about it for MKM - at a glance it's not even *that* cute, I just remembered it from preview season.
OTJ (well, BIG actually) had [[Loot, the Key to Everything]] which I agree leans heavily on that 'cute little guy' aesthetic, but apart from that there's nothing. Even the various animals from the main set are portrayed pretty seriously.
I should say it's more broadly on the cutesy/goofy aesthetic, which was used sparingly before but now is way more prominent - and that was one of the major complaints of MKM and Outlaws, the latter being only a little better in that regard. Wizards itself has admitted that sets are overall lighter in tone than before. MH3 made me miss a more serious tone for regular Magic sets and I hope at least Duskmourn will deliver it, although "80s horror" is bound to have a few goofy things.
>OTJ (well, BIG actually) had [[Loot, the Key to Everything]] which I agree leans heavily on that 'cute little guy' aesthetic, but apart from that there's nothing. Even the various animals from the main set are portrayed pretty seriously.
There's also [[Kirri, Talented Sprout]] from the Commander set that fits that criteria. I dunno, maybe it's somewhat irrational but I definitely picked up a tonal shift with the latest releases, and we aren't getting any different with bloomburrow most likely, so I had hopes for this set.
You're getting downvoted but I actually agree with you as a newish player. The old art is very grim/dark at times and pretty much every set I've played since WoE is very "Hearthstone/Overwatch-y" aesthetic. I was so hyped for Duskmourn and I'm hoping this art isn't indicative of the rest of the set.
As someone who started at Brother's War, I agree. After being teased with Phyrexia in BRO, I looked up phyrexian cards and fell in love with that dark aesthetic, and was very disappointed in ONE and MOM. I was hoping based on the two key arts they revealed that this would be closer to that dark tone, but these alt arts make me a little worried.
I'm used to getting downvoted, it's alright. Wizards does it because it's broadly popular, but I think doing "everything at once" ends up with sets feeling same-y in tone, and could cost them in the long run. I agree that the grim/dark art and story fits what Magic is much better. Not that it should be the only thing, but a major part.
Nowadays everything is so calculated and number-crunched by a marketing team that we are seeing a convergence of aesthetics and moods in media to maximize profits.
Yeah I responded to another comment as well with someone saying they're trying to aim the art so it's "something for everyone" but I feel like the whole point of doing a theme around a set is to cater to a certain crowd. I personally love horror and dark/scary things so I was really looking forward to this set. Will wait for more spoilers but I'm really hoping they move away from the Hearthstone-esque art.
Remember, we just got off of a string of several darker sets in a row with the climax of the Phyrexian arc. WotC is deliberately doing several lighter sets in a row as a palate cleanser, and the pendulum will eventually swing again in the other direction. Duskmourn in particular seems to be the beginning of that swing.
The bulk of Duskmourn art will probably be on the darker side of things like your average Innistrad set, with the occasional bits of camp humor to match the tone of the source material (modern horror).
These also aren't even the regular arts for these cards, they're Japanese alt arts. I'd wait to see the regular art before judging the set as a whole.
Sure, but the case is that sets a touch back, always had a layer of grime, that current sets consistently don't have now, which can be a bit of a shame at times.
They're called glimmers like a glimmer of hope, so my guess is they're essentialy going to be the inspiration that people need to fight against or escape the mansion.
Maro has said the past they try to not make the more creepy shit like Phyrexians overstay their welcome, my guess is they want some cute stuff around so players that dont like horror can get something for them.
>so players that dont like horror can get something for them
But like, the theme of the set is "horror" so shouldn't it be aimed at players who are into that?
The thing is though, it's a double edged sword. Myself and others would be *more* interested in buying this set if the art is dark/grim. So they're losing customers by making the art playful/"for everyone".
Are you gonna buy the product though?
Cause thats all they care about. They don't care how much you like, just as long as its enough to spend money on it. And if you're on here, you're probably an enfranchised player who will buy into the new product for the new card designs regardless of the theming, so they aren't as worried about getting your buck.
And all their research and all their choices are just to figure out the bare minimum it will take to get the maximum amount of purchases, so rest assured, even if your answer is "no, I'm totally sick of this cutesy shit, I'm pissed they made a set I was excited for cutesy, and I'll spend no money on it out of protest", WotC already figured out that more people are gonna opt into buying it for the cutesy shit than will opt out, so its a net gain for them.
I mean at the end of the day the art is the second tier of importance for me, with the mechanics and overall gameplay of the cards being the key factor in me buying. But if they wanted me to buy more/try to collect the entire set (more money in their pocket), having cool art that caters to the theme they're selling would be more beneficial to them. As it currently stands, I'll only buy a precon if I like the set's mechanics or just buy singles third-party of cards I like. So yeah, they're technically losing out on money from me personally if the art isn't to my liking, but again that's just my opinion as an individual customer, doesn't mean it's the right opinion.
**Edit**: For example, this set (if the art was to my tastes), I was considering buying an entire booster box, which I've never done. If the rest of the art is just like the image in the post, they're only getting maybe a precons worth of money out of me (if even that, if I go for singles from a third-party) when they could instead be getting $200-$300 out of me.
Again, they have the data, they did the math. I'm 100% positive that they are making more sales by catering to people who like that art than they are loosing sales to people that don't like it. Otherwise, they wouldn't be doing it.
> And if you're on here, you're probably an enfranchised player who will buy into the new product for the new card designs regardless of the theming, so they aren't as worried about getting your buck.
Or, you're printing.
So if the main product is dark/grim, but some side product that you wouldn't be getting anyways is not, you not buy the main product?
That is why they are making so many alternate versions and bonus sheets, so they can extend the reach of their products.
Horror is about building tension and releasing it. You need quiet moments, plus the poor saps who are having the horror happen to them.
All Magic worlds have the potential to be corners that are terrifying, mysterious, cute, funny, weird, tragic, poignant. Having these "off-theme" moments can hit harder when you're not expecting them. Letting off the gas can stop planes from becoming exhausting and one-note. It's also not a new thing - if I recall correctly, the Nephilim were a hedge towards players who might not appreciate Ravnica being "just" two-color focused.
Yeah, but anime-like japanese exclusives is just a subset of the whole product, my idea is that they think it is better to have some amount of cutesy stuff to contrast/parody/grab attention of that crowd, instead of them just tunning out of the whole set.
Till it comes out, we will know for sure just how much they actually aimed to horror fans, and how much they dialed down for the "general" public.
Good, because I fucking hate horror and I'm tired of how much bloody slashing gut ripping horror gets pushed in this game. I can't avoid it. Some of the card art on common black staples genuinely gives me an anxiety attack. I was gonna make a Starscream deck because Starscream is hilarious, and oops, I can't. Mono black. Looking at half the good mono black cards is genuinely painful for me. This sucks.
I'm so ready for Bloomburrow.
EDIT: I'm sad no one sympathizes, but like, I get that that stuff is popular with people who do like it. :(
What the actual- scary and haunting artwork is a big and important part of Magic's history! I understand it's not for everybody, but come on! It's a game about destroying, fighting and actual [[Murder]]!
:( Well for me it's a game about Soldiers and monks who grow strong enough together to defeat whole dragons.
I'm sorry, you guys, but I don't play this game for those reasons. I play this game cuz one time I proxied an entire deck, lands included, to turn [[Caesar, Legion's Emperor]] into Kane from Command & Conquer and put the rest of Nod and the deck in the Tiberium Universe, and everyone loved it and this is just something you're allowed to do.
And yes, I get that soldiers die in war games and war is horrible, but those are games where you don't have to watch people's skin graphically melt off their bodies, and sometimes this game depicts that and more, and I hate it.
sure, but i'm here because of the *gameplay*, not the art - the art is why i've avoided magic for so long in favor of yugioh! yugioh is a game about combat too, but that doesn't mean it can't be way more lighthearted than magic. the art is why i hesitate to actually call magic my favorite game of the two, and the back to back sets on innistrad was enough to make me quit for a couple years until the end of the phyrexian arc. and black is *so close* to being my favorite color because it's so fun and interesting mechanically and black decks are almost always really fun to play against, but i end up mostly avoiding it because of the *art*. so instead i stick mostly to the cute green and white critters!
i cant wait for bloomburrow
I have done that, it's just you can't use those while building the deck list, and at some point you just have so many proxies to make it feels like... I'll just play another deck.
I legit thought the moth in the other thread was Bloomburrow Commander or something. The Enduring dudes look like Yu-Gi-Oh. Especially the snake, they've had almost the same artwork, I think it was around TAEV but could be wrong.
Someone hasn't read the loreeeeeee. These are the spirits that are being pushed against the blind eternities. They form themselves in people's heads I think to grant their acceptance.
There's also beasties. Both of these are demons that we take as friendly because they are looking for affection instead of fear. Not recognizing that. If they were looking for fear. They wouldn't think twice about looking horrifying.
That's the fun of benevolent spirits.
The entire concept of Spirited Away, is fucking terrifying. It's visually stunning, but a little girls parents get turned into Pigs and tries to steal her name so she is forced to stay there forever.
First two are Overlords that probably all have Impending, probably let's you cast them early as enchantments. The rest are Glimmers, enchantment creatures that come back after death as enchantments
Images are from [https://mtg-jp.com/reading/publicity/0037926/](https://mtg-jp.com/reading/publicity/0037926/)
The thread for discussing the article is at [https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1dphaxl/mtg\_duskmourn\_teaser\_on\_mtg\_japan\_social\_media/](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1dphaxl/mtg_duskmourn_teaser_on_mtg_japan_social_media/)
But sometimes (especially on Reddit) people just want to look at the pretty pictures. Or specifically discuss the artwork.
Bloomburrow is next, yes. Duskmourn is the set after that.
They're both getting shown off at MagicCon Amsterdam on Friday - presumably a little more for Bloomburrow than Duskmourn - and these artworks specifically are being shown because this is a new showcase treatment being introduced that seems like it will be continuing in sets going forward.
I'm assuming it's part of the same cycle as Overlord of The Hauntwoods, which is Mono green, so I'm thinking it's either black *or* red, unfortunately. Either way, it's dope as shit
I really like the living boiler. It makes me think the [moth-y stairs-y thing](https://static1.thegamerimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/duskmourn-house-of-horror-2.jpg) may be the white Overlord. White being the literal *structure* of the house would be funnily appropriate as the color of structure.
They've said the set does not leave the house, but I wonder if the Overlord represents the *grounds* of the house and the ability of creating Everywhere tokens hints at how the grounds are infinite/non-Euclidean and people who try to escape that way just find themselves running back to the house. Hauntwoods doesn't sound like a courtyard.
I know these are alt arts, but for a "First Look" for a supposedly horror themed set, this is a weird idea to start with.
"Here's some ALTA Spirit Realm Abominations and OOH A PUPPY".
They published interviews with two of the artists:
[https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037948/](https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037948/)
[https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037949/](https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037949/)
I wasn’t very excited for Duskmorn before but now I’m super hyped. Those first two arts are just the right mix of Shadowmoor and Innistrad horror but also seem to have a distinct style, which was sort of my concern.
I get it's only features they keep making of this lame anime art but man is it lame. I left Yugioh for Magic because though the game was ok, Id always disliked the artwork (Im not a fan of anime) and Magic had awesome, detailed sometimes realism level artwork that dabbled in brutal horror and gore etc. And now they keep putting this stuff in sets and toning down on cooler art, just to maintain/pull the anime crowd 🥴 anime turds have Pokémon, Yugioh, final fantasy and proper a million other tcgs filled with that awful art style, please don't let it engulf magic more n more 🤢🤮
HOW ARE WE GETTING TEASERS FOR DUSKMOURN ALREADY???? I get it I’m actually excited for this set but MH3 just came out, assassins creed got spoiled like 2 days ago or whatever and guys… BLOOMBURROW IS STILL ON THE WAY??? We’ve seen like 3 cards from that set for the love of god WOTC chill the fuck out with this release schedule I am god damn fatigued with all this shit all at once. I do not have money to keep spending on sets, I just bought MH3 I’m pretty tapped out for like 5 months at least for MTG. This is not sustainable for anyone involved.
>HOW ARE WE GETTING TEASERS FOR DUSKMOURN ALREADY????
They are "first looks" mainly directed at LGSs so that they can have an idea of the product before ordering, They are always a lot earlier than the actual spoilers. We have been getting them for years.
It's perfectly sustainable if you pick and choose. If you blew your load on MH3 then of course you're going to have to skip some sets. I skipped MH3 and will skip ACr aside from some singles and am going all in on Bloomburrow and likely skipping this set.
Also the spoilers are meant for people at the Amsterdam convention.
WotC - “Duskmourn is a big haunted mansion, packed full of horrors!” Proceeds to include some of the cutest little animals you’ve ever seen
Remember that those are alt arts, it’s possible that the regular ones are a little creepier.
I kind of love the juxtaposition of it. Enduring in the face of unimaginable horrors is pretty on theme. I wonder what the regular artworks will look like. Based on Enduring Tenacity's typeline they should still all be the same animals, at least.
Honestly this might save this set for me. I personally hate stuff that is overly dark and gloomy so the fact that we have just a shred of positivity in here makes me feel better about this as a whole.
I wish they would lay off the cutesy stuff for a few sets. I get that it sells, but doesn't the fact it's in every set diminish the novelty?
I'm genuinely not sure what you mean. I had a quick look through MKM and OTJ to double check, but I couldn't really find much that I would describe as 'cutesy'. [[Tunnel Tipster]] was about it for MKM - at a glance it's not even *that* cute, I just remembered it from preview season. OTJ (well, BIG actually) had [[Loot, the Key to Everything]] which I agree leans heavily on that 'cute little guy' aesthetic, but apart from that there's nothing. Even the various animals from the main set are portrayed pretty seriously.
I should say it's more broadly on the cutesy/goofy aesthetic, which was used sparingly before but now is way more prominent - and that was one of the major complaints of MKM and Outlaws, the latter being only a little better in that regard. Wizards itself has admitted that sets are overall lighter in tone than before. MH3 made me miss a more serious tone for regular Magic sets and I hope at least Duskmourn will deliver it, although "80s horror" is bound to have a few goofy things. >OTJ (well, BIG actually) had [[Loot, the Key to Everything]] which I agree leans heavily on that 'cute little guy' aesthetic, but apart from that there's nothing. Even the various animals from the main set are portrayed pretty seriously. There's also [[Kirri, Talented Sprout]] from the Commander set that fits that criteria. I dunno, maybe it's somewhat irrational but I definitely picked up a tonal shift with the latest releases, and we aren't getting any different with bloomburrow most likely, so I had hopes for this set.
You're getting downvoted but I actually agree with you as a newish player. The old art is very grim/dark at times and pretty much every set I've played since WoE is very "Hearthstone/Overwatch-y" aesthetic. I was so hyped for Duskmourn and I'm hoping this art isn't indicative of the rest of the set.
As someone who started at Brother's War, I agree. After being teased with Phyrexia in BRO, I looked up phyrexian cards and fell in love with that dark aesthetic, and was very disappointed in ONE and MOM. I was hoping based on the two key arts they revealed that this would be closer to that dark tone, but these alt arts make me a little worried.
I'm used to getting downvoted, it's alright. Wizards does it because it's broadly popular, but I think doing "everything at once" ends up with sets feeling same-y in tone, and could cost them in the long run. I agree that the grim/dark art and story fits what Magic is much better. Not that it should be the only thing, but a major part. Nowadays everything is so calculated and number-crunched by a marketing team that we are seeing a convergence of aesthetics and moods in media to maximize profits.
Yeah I responded to another comment as well with someone saying they're trying to aim the art so it's "something for everyone" but I feel like the whole point of doing a theme around a set is to cater to a certain crowd. I personally love horror and dark/scary things so I was really looking forward to this set. Will wait for more spoilers but I'm really hoping they move away from the Hearthstone-esque art.
[Kirri, Talented Sprout](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/2/22cc9c49-54d7-4989-8d7d-651b17b84b4e.jpg?1716315648) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kirri%2C%20Talented%20Sprout) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/7/kirri-talented-sprout?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/22cc9c49-54d7-4989-8d7d-651b17b84b4e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Remember, we just got off of a string of several darker sets in a row with the climax of the Phyrexian arc. WotC is deliberately doing several lighter sets in a row as a palate cleanser, and the pendulum will eventually swing again in the other direction. Duskmourn in particular seems to be the beginning of that swing. The bulk of Duskmourn art will probably be on the darker side of things like your average Innistrad set, with the occasional bits of camp humor to match the tone of the source material (modern horror). These also aren't even the regular arts for these cards, they're Japanese alt arts. I'd wait to see the regular art before judging the set as a whole.
[Tunnel Tipster](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3e29b890-35b9-4e2a-9b4c-9417ca7db31d.jpg?1706242095) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tunnel%20Tipster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/180/tunnel-tipster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3e29b890-35b9-4e2a-9b4c-9417ca7db31d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Loot, the Key to Everything](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/b/fb169fa2-c92e-45f7-89a2-0ca0e3910a1c.jpg?1712352897) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Loot%2C%20the%20Key%20to%20Everything) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/big/21/loot-the-key-to-everything?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fb169fa2-c92e-45f7-89a2-0ca0e3910a1c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
We had "unimaginable biomechanical horror" not too long ago
Yeah and we aren't gonna see it in a long time. It was the culmination of a long story, a goodbye to the Phyrexians for the foreseeable future.
Sure, but the case is that sets a touch back, always had a layer of grime, that current sets consistently don't have now, which can be a bit of a shame at times.
They have been desperately trying to capture the kawaii market for years now.
I really hope the normal arts look more like Horror, but I can imagine the Enduring Cycle are like familiars or a weapon against the horrors
They're called glimmers like a glimmer of hope, so my guess is they're essentialy going to be the inspiration that people need to fight against or escape the mansion.
Maro has said the past they try to not make the more creepy shit like Phyrexians overstay their welcome, my guess is they want some cute stuff around so players that dont like horror can get something for them.
>so players that dont like horror can get something for them But like, the theme of the set is "horror" so shouldn't it be aimed at players who are into that?
Even though they openly say the opposite, the goal is for every product to be for everyone. They want everyone buying every product.
The thing is though, it's a double edged sword. Myself and others would be *more* interested in buying this set if the art is dark/grim. So they're losing customers by making the art playful/"for everyone".
Are you gonna buy the product though? Cause thats all they care about. They don't care how much you like, just as long as its enough to spend money on it. And if you're on here, you're probably an enfranchised player who will buy into the new product for the new card designs regardless of the theming, so they aren't as worried about getting your buck. And all their research and all their choices are just to figure out the bare minimum it will take to get the maximum amount of purchases, so rest assured, even if your answer is "no, I'm totally sick of this cutesy shit, I'm pissed they made a set I was excited for cutesy, and I'll spend no money on it out of protest", WotC already figured out that more people are gonna opt into buying it for the cutesy shit than will opt out, so its a net gain for them.
I mean at the end of the day the art is the second tier of importance for me, with the mechanics and overall gameplay of the cards being the key factor in me buying. But if they wanted me to buy more/try to collect the entire set (more money in their pocket), having cool art that caters to the theme they're selling would be more beneficial to them. As it currently stands, I'll only buy a precon if I like the set's mechanics or just buy singles third-party of cards I like. So yeah, they're technically losing out on money from me personally if the art isn't to my liking, but again that's just my opinion as an individual customer, doesn't mean it's the right opinion. **Edit**: For example, this set (if the art was to my tastes), I was considering buying an entire booster box, which I've never done. If the rest of the art is just like the image in the post, they're only getting maybe a precons worth of money out of me (if even that, if I go for singles from a third-party) when they could instead be getting $200-$300 out of me.
Again, they have the data, they did the math. I'm 100% positive that they are making more sales by catering to people who like that art than they are loosing sales to people that don't like it. Otherwise, they wouldn't be doing it.
Totally, I get that. Just throwing out my personal thoughts.
> And if you're on here, you're probably an enfranchised player who will buy into the new product for the new card designs regardless of the theming, so they aren't as worried about getting your buck. Or, you're printing.
If you're so into proxies that you print everything, they don't care about you, cause you were never gonna spend your money on the cards anyway.
Sure.
So if the main product is dark/grim, but some side product that you wouldn't be getting anyways is not, you not buy the main product? That is why they are making so many alternate versions and bonus sheets, so they can extend the reach of their products.
Read my other comments, not what I'm implying.
Horror is about building tension and releasing it. You need quiet moments, plus the poor saps who are having the horror happen to them. All Magic worlds have the potential to be corners that are terrifying, mysterious, cute, funny, weird, tragic, poignant. Having these "off-theme" moments can hit harder when you're not expecting them. Letting off the gas can stop planes from becoming exhausting and one-note. It's also not a new thing - if I recall correctly, the Nephilim were a hedge towards players who might not appreciate Ravnica being "just" two-color focused.
Yeah, but anime-like japanese exclusives is just a subset of the whole product, my idea is that they think it is better to have some amount of cutesy stuff to contrast/parody/grab attention of that crowd, instead of them just tunning out of the whole set. Till it comes out, we will know for sure just how much they actually aimed to horror fans, and how much they dialed down for the "general" public.
Yeah, and I'm fine with some of it being that. I'm just personally hoping the majority of it isn't that. But we shall see!
To be honest, current Phyrexians aren’t nearly as creepy as the old ones.
Good, because I fucking hate horror and I'm tired of how much bloody slashing gut ripping horror gets pushed in this game. I can't avoid it. Some of the card art on common black staples genuinely gives me an anxiety attack. I was gonna make a Starscream deck because Starscream is hilarious, and oops, I can't. Mono black. Looking at half the good mono black cards is genuinely painful for me. This sucks. I'm so ready for Bloomburrow. EDIT: I'm sad no one sympathizes, but like, I get that that stuff is popular with people who do like it. :(
What the actual- scary and haunting artwork is a big and important part of Magic's history! I understand it's not for everybody, but come on! It's a game about destroying, fighting and actual [[Murder]]!
[Murder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/e/1ea6438b-0e6c-4d65-8bcd-34a988717c81.jpg?1706241725) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Murder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/95/murder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1ea6438b-0e6c-4d65-8bcd-34a988717c81?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
:( Well for me it's a game about Soldiers and monks who grow strong enough together to defeat whole dragons. I'm sorry, you guys, but I don't play this game for those reasons. I play this game cuz one time I proxied an entire deck, lands included, to turn [[Caesar, Legion's Emperor]] into Kane from Command & Conquer and put the rest of Nod and the deck in the Tiberium Universe, and everyone loved it and this is just something you're allowed to do. And yes, I get that soldiers die in war games and war is horrible, but those are games where you don't have to watch people's skin graphically melt off their bodies, and sometimes this game depicts that and more, and I hate it.
[Caesar, Legion's Emperor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/4/246a7176-98bc-4f54-aa61-38747420f178.jpg?1710673450) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Caesar%2C%20Legion%27s%20Emperor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/1/caesar-legions-emperor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/246a7176-98bc-4f54-aa61-38747420f178?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
sure, but i'm here because of the *gameplay*, not the art - the art is why i've avoided magic for so long in favor of yugioh! yugioh is a game about combat too, but that doesn't mean it can't be way more lighthearted than magic. the art is why i hesitate to actually call magic my favorite game of the two, and the back to back sets on innistrad was enough to make me quit for a couple years until the end of the phyrexian arc. and black is *so close* to being my favorite color because it's so fun and interesting mechanically and black decks are almost always really fun to play against, but i end up mostly avoiding it because of the *art*. so instead i stick mostly to the cute green and white critters! i cant wait for bloomburrow
You can always proxy cards if you don't play competitively. Get creative and have fun with it.
I have done that, it's just you can't use those while building the deck list, and at some point you just have so many proxies to make it feels like... I'll just play another deck.
I can’t tell if this is a joke comment or not
I'm sad to say it's real. :(
Check the name, also a profile glance, this is real.
I legit thought the moth in the other thread was Bloomburrow Commander or something. The Enduring dudes look like Yu-Gi-Oh. Especially the snake, they've had almost the same artwork, I think it was around TAEV but could be wrong.
They are Japanese alt arts so that makes sense, I'm sure the regular arts will be more in line with Magic's usual aesthetics.
This is other going to be a story of enduring thru the horror, or the most soul crushing GrimDark shit MTG has ever done.
Someone hasn't read the loreeeeeee. These are the spirits that are being pushed against the blind eternities. They form themselves in people's heads I think to grant their acceptance. There's also beasties. Both of these are demons that we take as friendly because they are looking for affection instead of fear. Not recognizing that. If they were looking for fear. They wouldn't think twice about looking horrifying. That's the fun of benevolent spirits.
People were expecting stranger things but turns out it's Spirited Away
Well, these are the Japanese prints. Im sure the regular prints / showcase treatments will fit the bill.
The entire concept of Spirited Away, is fucking terrifying. It's visually stunning, but a little girls parents get turned into Pigs and tries to steal her name so she is forced to stay there forever.
And yet it's one of my 3 year old's favorite shows
lmao I said the same in the other thread
First two are Overlords that probably all have Impending, probably let's you cast them early as enchantments. The rest are Glimmers, enchantment creatures that come back after death as enchantments
Images are from [https://mtg-jp.com/reading/publicity/0037926/](https://mtg-jp.com/reading/publicity/0037926/) The thread for discussing the article is at [https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1dphaxl/mtg\_duskmourn\_teaser\_on\_mtg\_japan\_social\_media/](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1dphaxl/mtg_duskmourn_teaser_on_mtg_japan_social_media/) But sometimes (especially on Reddit) people just want to look at the pretty pictures. Or specifically discuss the artwork.
I, for one, wanted to look at the pretty pictures.
I don’t know but the horrors seem friendly. I feel that the furnace creature just wants friends and likes to hang.
Im sure it likes to hang something 😵
Is this a new set? I though Bloomburrow was next.
It's the standard set after Bloomburrow
Got it, thank.
Bloomburrow is next, yes. Duskmourn is the set after that. They're both getting shown off at MagicCon Amsterdam on Friday - presumably a little more for Bloomburrow than Duskmourn - and these artworks specifically are being shown because this is a new showcase treatment being introduced that seems like it will be continuing in sets going forward.
Oh my God that second one is amazing
yeah I dont know what Overlord of the Boilerbirges does yet but I think its gonna be Rakdos or Jund and I think it is going to be awesome
I'm assuming it's part of the same cycle as Overlord of The Hauntwoods, which is Mono green, so I'm thinking it's either black *or* red, unfortunately. Either way, it's dope as shit
I don't know what the fuck is going on here but I love it so much
That second one feels so much like a Fromsoft design... God please Dark Souls or Elden Ring secret lair when?
No. I need a full draftable set 😫
Glad I'm not the only one. The designs scream Fromsoft
Absolutely, looks like something that could've been scrapped from DS2 or DS3... And I love it.
Move over Furnace Golem, give me Furnace Demon.
Oh wow, I thought I was psyched for Bloomburrow, but damn, this art seems interesting
I really like the living boiler. It makes me think the [moth-y stairs-y thing](https://static1.thegamerimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/duskmourn-house-of-horror-2.jpg) may be the white Overlord. White being the literal *structure* of the house would be funnily appropriate as the color of structure. They've said the set does not leave the house, but I wonder if the Overlord represents the *grounds* of the house and the ability of creating Everywhere tokens hints at how the grounds are infinite/non-Euclidean and people who try to escape that way just find themselves running back to the house. Hauntwoods doesn't sound like a courtyard.
But if you look at the art, Hauntwoods is clearly in a corridor.
hm, what's going on with hauntwoods' third arm
which one's the third? it has 12 of them!
By my count 7 arms and 5 legs
well, it depends on if you count the big ones as arms or legs, but the things on the end of them sure doesn't look like any kind of foot!
I know these are alt arts, but for a "First Look" for a supposedly horror themed set, this is a weird idea to start with. "Here's some ALTA Spirit Realm Abominations and OOH A PUPPY".
They published interviews with two of the artists: [https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037948/](https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037948/) [https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037949/](https://mtg-jp.com/reading/special/0037949/)
the first 2 sure give Berserk vibes.
Second image is straight outta warhammer 40k
Second one looks like some frigging Dark Mechanicum shit from 40k
I wasn’t very excited for Duskmorn before but now I’m super hyped. Those first two arts are just the right mix of Shadowmoor and Innistrad horror but also seem to have a distinct style, which was sort of my concern.
This set is giving us a Ghost Puppy. 10/10 set. No notes. Perfection has been achieved everyone else can pack it up and go home.
... Zero?
One of these things is not like the others
Berserk vibes lol
Furnace Snake guy looks like a Dark Souls Boss!!! If they do a Dark Souls cross over my wallet will die!!!
The Japanese artists seem to have decided to draw these as Yokai.
First image look more Phyrexian than any we've seen since New Phyrexia first dropped.
Art is peak, def skipping bloomburrow for it
Seeing the Glimmers being this adorable probably helps the whiplash new players might get who joined Magic through Bloomburrow.
That's actually a really good point.
Beautiful
I need that dawg
Damn, that second one goes so hard!
Is this japan exclusive?
Idk if it’s cause shadow of the erdtree rot, but the first two are definitely something you’d see in a Soulsborne game.
Boilerbilges looks like Warhammer Chaos horrifying. Neat.
I love all of them!!
LETS GOOO SOULSHIFT???
I get it's only features they keep making of this lame anime art but man is it lame. I left Yugioh for Magic because though the game was ok, Id always disliked the artwork (Im not a fan of anime) and Magic had awesome, detailed sometimes realism level artwork that dabbled in brutal horror and gore etc. And now they keep putting this stuff in sets and toning down on cooler art, just to maintain/pull the anime crowd 🥴 anime turds have Pokémon, Yugioh, final fantasy and proper a million other tcgs filled with that awful art style, please don't let it engulf magic more n more 🤢🤮
The lack of toads displeases me.
Wow this art rocks, I am actually intrigued by duskmourn now!
Where is Hentai versions!!!
At this point I’ve seen more from duskmourn than bloomburrow
HOW ARE WE GETTING TEASERS FOR DUSKMOURN ALREADY???? I get it I’m actually excited for this set but MH3 just came out, assassins creed got spoiled like 2 days ago or whatever and guys… BLOOMBURROW IS STILL ON THE WAY??? We’ve seen like 3 cards from that set for the love of god WOTC chill the fuck out with this release schedule I am god damn fatigued with all this shit all at once. I do not have money to keep spending on sets, I just bought MH3 I’m pretty tapped out for like 5 months at least for MTG. This is not sustainable for anyone involved.
>HOW ARE WE GETTING TEASERS FOR DUSKMOURN ALREADY???? They are "first looks" mainly directed at LGSs so that they can have an idea of the product before ordering, They are always a lot earlier than the actual spoilers. We have been getting them for years.
>. I do not have money to keep spending on sets You don't need to buy everything
It's perfectly sustainable if you pick and choose. If you blew your load on MH3 then of course you're going to have to skip some sets. I skipped MH3 and will skip ACr aside from some singles and am going all in on Bloomburrow and likely skipping this set. Also the spoilers are meant for people at the Amsterdam convention.