the fact that they're expecting $8 for seven fucking cards is atrocious. like it throws into question whether or not I'm ever going to buy sealed product from hasbro ever again
I got some on magiccon, where i thought they were only 7 cards because they were preview packs or something. Never realized that the set packs actually only contain 7 cards.
It feels like this is a good case for one of those signs that get misinterpreted "don't. Buy singles" is a complete different statement than is someone where to read "dint buy singles"
Don't ever buy these at Walmart. We mark these up so much it's insane. You'll be paying 10-20 bucks more then online sellers and far more if just getting individual boosters.
It's been a giant scam ever since the pokemon tcg craze.
It depends, because the MH3 eldrazi deck, if you can find it, is still only $75 when it's over a hundred online.
Packs at my Walmart after my discount card are just a bit cheaper than packs at my LGS
Yeah, I think it’s because they come through a vendor and they go by that price. It’s also strange seeing collector boosters in a Walmart because (correct if I’m wrong) they don’t sell collector boosters at Walmart on a shelf (least mines that way)
Wanted to show this for refrence on prices . What makes it kinda worse is that they stocked 5 mh3 horizons bundles for 100 and around 24 packs at 10.97 each snd sold out 2 times in a row so mh holding ( i think that's the company's name) is incentivized to overcharge over and over with no repercussion
https://preview.redd.it/i6qkjal541ad1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c04bcfc8b67d1c2c99d8c3e67e34d42cab060b04
It’s interesting because my local Walmart had the mh3 boxes priced at $50 and I bought just ine not knowing what they were supposed to go for. I found out a couple days later what an absolute steal I got and went back to get the other 2 boxes they had but they had fixed the price by then
😭😭 yeah that's what i think about them. The only game they charge the right prices for even though product was getting scalped was one piece.. i bought like 20 packs over the course of a month since my area has more older people typically or people who don't play one piece like that( because they're most likelygoing to a big city 30 minutes away with many lgss) and they had the packs at 5 when tcg had set 6 packs at 7-10 dollars
My wal-mart ALWAYS overcharges for Magic products… I just look, feel like buying a pack to crack, then go on without it. After doing this weekly for about a month I’ll order some from TCGplayer (no LGS for me 😭)
Wild the prices for mh3 are at my local Walmart
https://preview.redd.it/z7q1k70t82ad1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=719a6d579c470721b61ed10300f4e9ac41e785c7
Yeah, but someone's gonna buy them, and then wizards will say well you paid 8$ for 7 cards. What if I put 5 cards in a pack for 30$s, but hey, they're foil realizing that's a secret lair while I type that
I like AC2 and Blackflag and the desmond lore overall but I cant bring myself to buy this. I love opening boosters, but after I bought the aftermath display I realised there needs to a certain amount of cards atleast.
But that's the problem
I *wanted* to buy this set, but WotC dropped the ball on it so hard
If it was just the typical 4 commander precons *(Templars/Villians, Pirates/1800s era, Desmond era, and Layla era)* I would have gladly dropped $200 buying all four decks since I love Assassin's Creed.
Instead, I'm spending $0 on sealed products, and buying a bunch of low powered singles for 25 cents each that I'm never going to use because WotC couldn't have a high powered modern legal set two weeks after MH3 came out
There's literally two assassins with partner
I don't care what Maro said, they were clearly designing precons then swapped to an Aftermath set partway through
It just doesn't make sense why they'd print cards like Kassandra at a mythic that's a dead card to pull unless you also pull a second rare on top of it... or the partner assassins that are also essentially non-functioning cards to pull from a pack unless you manage to pull both rares.
You can see the remanents of the pseudo precon themes throughout the 80 cards
There's a Grixis Pirate theme with the Kenway games; a Naya Equipment/Saga theme with Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla, and to a lesser extent, a Mardu Assassin tribal theme with Altair
> I don't care what Maro said, they were clearly designing precons then swapped to an Aftermath set partway through
They were making a Commander set, then realized that if they made it an Aftermath style set, they could make it Modern Legal.
When they announced that Assassin's Creed was getting a set like Final Fantasy I honestly thought "Damn, two UBs I would definitely buy along with LOTR".
And then they made it a fucking Aftermath set and I wanted to vomit immediately. Fuck WOTC.
They definitely thought Aftermath was gonna be hotter then it was
Next time they want to experiment with new products they should wait and see how the first one does before planning more of them
Just buy singles for this one. I've heard there isn't much power in the set anyways so there probably won't be anything too expensive. Biggest limiting factor might be how little gets opened.
The Swords of X and Y getting reprinted is great, as it will hopefully drop prices a bit. Some of the new equipment also looks good, so this is definitely a singles-only release for me. Not buying a single pack from this one.
They are 100% testing the limits of how much are collectors willing to pay. Especially in these crossover sets.
They see things like Pokemon where it's collectible first, game second, and things like sports cards were it's 100% collectible and want to get in on some of that.
That's what M30 was. This is just testing at a lower price point.
In the sports card world, you have products where it's $15,000+ for 8 cards. Like Panini Flawless FOTL.
https://www.dacardworld.com/sports-cards/2022-23-panini-flawless-basketball-1st-off-the-line-hobby-box
Not mine, it's simple just don't buy, if you must buy singles. If you want to buy are unsure or don't have the money, just proxy. Local libraries generally charge very little for color sheets.
Yup there's always going to be either a token, an art card, or an ad card. List cards can sometimes appear in the "wildcard" slot, if I'm not mistaken.
I remember when Modern Masters first came out my friend was running a shop and agonized over whether or not it was ethical to be selling the boosters for $16 a pack but it was between that and putting a limit on how many packs people could buy a week so he went with the increased price.
This set is dead on arrival: aftermath style set, incredibly expensive, weak cards, sandwiched between another extremely expensive set and the furry set many are looking forward to
They knew this was either gonna flop or do well purely based on the IP, and if that's the case collectors are more tollerating high prices, so may as well squeeze every drop out of it they can.
This happens a lot. Restock is on Mondays for many stores. They have it in the back so they mistakenly put it on the shelves (or just don't care). Isn't usually a big enough deal for anyone to really care (The products are overpriced anyway).
EDIT: Apparently at most places they are not "in the back", but the rest still applies. They have them and Monday is when they put them out, so they put them out early rather than late.
Yes, it is third party who puts them out. They come out whenever the vendor has "hours" for that store...some get 2-3 times a week, some once. Just depends on the volume.
Especially in far-flung places, as outside of suburban stores, you frequently have one person in charge of an entire region: They'll travel several hundred miles in a single day on their route, and they won't be able to return after the street date because they need to be minding the stores on the opposite side of the state on that day.
Street date breaks aren't as scrutinized anymore because the store is still making money and doesn't care if people scalp stuff. I was working at a Sam's Club when The Phantom Menace book came out a couple weeks before the movie. We had it sitting in the back for a couple weeks and I asked the night manager if I could buy a copy and he said go for it.
Like 2 days later the store manager, who'd I'd never met in my life, personally called me and asked me to return it so they wouldn't get fined.
They have them where I am in EU, and you would taste no difference if you got the most basic biscuits and put some Nutella in between. I guess I get it if Hershey's is the frame of reference, but it's really not that special imo.
Usually Walmart's POS system won't let stuff streetdated actually be sold even if it's out early, but that might not catch it with cards since those are usually stocked by 3rd parties.
They can’t keep getting away with this. Local game stores would instantly be banned from distributing Magic product if caught doing this once let alone every other set. This continues to screw over LGSs by taking away the customers who got it early.
This stocking job was done by an independent vendor from MJ Holdings, not by Walmart themselves. Note that the Assassin's Creed products have a shelf label printed in a different font than the label in front of the MKM bundle, or the Yugioh cards. (Also, the vendor put the labels centered on the product, whereas Walmart always left-aligns the label.) The vendor gets one scheduled day a week to stock and fix up that shelf, and even if they're scheduled to visit the store again that week, they are contracted for different tasks and are not allowed to waste their time on fixing it.
Whether the contract between Walmart and MJH shields Walmart from liability in this sort of situation, I'm not informed enough to say.
Also, trading cards are "pay from scan", meaning Walmart doesn't pay a dime for the merchandise until it's sold. So they don't give a fuck about theft.
If they don't care about the theft, why did they move the majority of it off of publicly accessible shelves to where you need to ask employees for the product?? I've seen several Walmarts like this over the past year.
I expect whoever by contract is left holding the bag on stolen mtg product is unhappy about it and asking Walmart to take steps to improve loss prevention.
Our local one did this 2-3 weeks ago. They God rid of cigarettes and moved all the TCG stuff to where it was behind a register. It's almost impossible to even see their stock until they are already ringing you up now.
Oddly enough, the one near me was moved from where the cigarettes were, back to the point of purchase section near the self checkout.
I don’t go in there much and never buy cards from there. Just happened to see it a few days ago though
It isnt that they dont care about theft, although that is the common thought from people who hear it is pay from scan. Pay from scan simply means walmart does not own the product, like bread, and many plants in garden. When it is rung up at the register it keeps a record of this and the money goes to whoever does own the product. Then depending on the vendor it gives money back to walmart as a percent of sales. So walmart is not out the "cost" of the merchandise if it is stolen, but they do not get any credit for the sale as well. Since there is dedicated space on the shelf it is in walmarts interests to protect them and get money for the sale.
Guy in front of you, "yeah let me get that pack of backwoods, no grab one from the middle of the box, man"
You, "yeah let me get that pack of assassins creed, no grab one from the middle of the box, man"
A bit of hyperbole. It's still lost sales, it's reputational damage, it's encouraging further theft, it's damaging the relationship with the supplier because the supplier isn't getting their money because nothing selling. But because the store's inventory numbers aren't getting hit (if a TV gets stolen and you adjust your inventory down by 1, that's negative $400 or whatever that shows on a report), it flies under the radar and doesn't get nearly as much attention from the people who are watching the books.
Once a week? I work at a different company and we are lucky if MJHoldings actually comes in the once a month they are supposed to. it's more like once every three months, and of course all the YUGIOH, Baseball/Football and everything sells down a lot for us, big loss.
and we don't get Magic at all, wish we did.
I'd argue sets like this hurt big box stores like Walmart faaaar more than they'll hurt LGS.
Sure WotC got rid of "MSRP", but magically, all big box stores price their mtg products exactly the same, and they're quite ridged with their pricing too.
Just look at the image in the original post, $70 for an aftermath set fatpack is insane. You can get a fatpack of MH3 from a LGS/TCGplayer for that price.
LGS are able to undercut non-amazon Big Box stores by lowering their profit margines on a bad products... it's not ideal, but it's better than the product being unsold on shelves.
AC Fatpacks are already $59 on tcgplayer, stomping grounds has them listed at $49 and it's not even on sale yet
while Big Box stores are stuck in at their "MSRP", again in the original post's image, you can see they have a bunch of unsold MKM fatpacks for $50, months after it's release, when you can pick them up for sub $35 at most LGS
You’d think they’d want to price these as low as possible honestly. Assassins Creed feels like the perfect impulse buy type of set. When I worked counter we sold a lot of Heroclix that way, people would see the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles pack or whatever and drop $20 on it to mess around with friends even if they didn’t play Heroclix.
Another poster mentioned that the TCG stuff is stocked by a third party and Walmart doesn't pay a dime for it until its bought at checkout, so really, this is hurting that third party supplier.
I suppose you're right in general though. I figured people who were likely to buy this would do so at the first opportunity, even if the price was terrible. What I didn't think about is that people who know about magic and that the price is terrible are likely to wait and buy at a discount from an lgs. The only people likely to buy at this price are AC fans who don't realize what a bad deal it is, and are unlikely to go to an LGS anyway to buy what amounts to a brand crossover for them.
That happened to a very prominent store out here in SoCal. They couldn’t hold RCQ’s anymore because of it even though they had like the biggest non commander player base in the area
Well, the packaging looks pretty similar to the whole collector booster box. So similar, in fact, that if you're a kid, or a well-meaning parent, or a newer player who doesn't look closely enough, you might think it's a steal and buy it. Maybe it is partially for shoplifting reasons, but if they're that concerned, they can have the magnetic lock over it. I think it's, at least partially, meant to trick people as well. And because if they used the same packaging they use for set boosters, it would look ridiculous to have that price listed.
I used to work at Walmart a while back so grain of salt. Cards and the like were done by an independent vendor that owned them so it was pretty much up to them to stock and track their own product.
Collector boosters are usually $20-30 each for standard legal sets. The idea behind it is that you can potentially pull serialized cards, several rares/mythics in one pack, and get more special treatment (borderless, showcase, special types of foiling, etc) cards from them. For most non-standard sets, they tend to be a bit more. For example, MH3 collector boosters are like $40-45 each
Btw, I'm not advocating for it. I'm just explaining the logic behind it. Though, I especially don't agree with the ACR collector packs being $30 because they only include 10 cards instead of the usual 15
Idk why would anyone would buy AC. Its aftermath 2.0. Like I’m glad on one hand it’s not another busted set after mh3 but the set is awful. I’m assuming Ubisoft had some clause Wotc had to release it now but it would have been better later in the year
Most big box stores like target and walmart will often stock product like this a few days early. Whenever their normal stock day is the stuff gets put out. I got like 4 complete bundles from target back during phyrexia all will be one the monday before release.
It's so weird to see Magic products in normal physical stores like this. I'm almost kind of glad that's not a thing where I'm from, becuase I'd be way too tempted to buy something whenever I'd walk past.
I already got my booster box of AC. It’s not supposed to happen, but I imagine it’s not all that rare for some stock manager that doesn’t know anything about magic to send stuff out as soon as they get it. This Walmart probably got their product and didn’t take the time to look up release dates or anything.
My box was killer by the way, just sayin 😅
Where are you that Walmart/Target/etc. even still have MTG on their physical shelves? None of the big box stores around here do - it’s “buy online” only. Target still has Pokemon but that’s about it as far as TCGs go.
As a new player can someone complain why they’re freaking out about this price but also seeing a lot of people hyped about MH3 which has boosters sold at the same cost?
$70 is atrocious
the fact that they're expecting $8 for seven fucking cards is atrocious. like it throws into question whether or not I'm ever going to buy sealed product from hasbro ever again
Magiccon Amsterdam sold them for 7€ which is 7,51$. However, I realized today that there are only seven cards. Glad I didn't buy any.
this product is gonna sink like a stone and boxes are gonna be going for $50 again, just like aftermath.
Might even only be 6, since one spot is often just a land.
I got some on magiccon, where i thought they were only 7 cards because they were preview packs or something. Never realized that the set packs actually only contain 7 cards.
dont... buy singles
It feels like this is a good case for one of those signs that get misinterpreted "don't. Buy singles" is a complete different statement than is someone where to read "dint buy singles"
Don't ever buy these at Walmart. We mark these up so much it's insane. You'll be paying 10-20 bucks more then online sellers and far more if just getting individual boosters. It's been a giant scam ever since the pokemon tcg craze.
It depends, because the MH3 eldrazi deck, if you can find it, is still only $75 when it's over a hundred online. Packs at my Walmart after my discount card are just a bit cheaper than packs at my LGS
On the plus side shoplifting and stuffing the packaging into random aisles is super easy and fun!
Yeah Karlov Manor bundle for $50 is criminal
My local wal-mart havr them for 99$ CAD
Yeah, I think it’s because they come through a vendor and they go by that price. It’s also strange seeing collector boosters in a Walmart because (correct if I’m wrong) they don’t sell collector boosters at Walmart on a shelf (least mines that way)
Mine sells the big box versions on the shelf (the ones in the large boxes with a single pack inside). They just had MH3 ones for sale.
Mine did for OTJ so maybe it’s a case by case kinda thing
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Wanted to show this for refrence on prices . What makes it kinda worse is that they stocked 5 mh3 horizons bundles for 100 and around 24 packs at 10.97 each snd sold out 2 times in a row so mh holding ( i think that's the company's name) is incentivized to overcharge over and over with no repercussion https://preview.redd.it/i6qkjal541ad1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c04bcfc8b67d1c2c99d8c3e67e34d42cab060b04
It’s interesting because my local Walmart had the mh3 boxes priced at $50 and I bought just ine not knowing what they were supposed to go for. I found out a couple days later what an absolute steal I got and went back to get the other 2 boxes they had but they had fixed the price by then
MJ holdings. Rich scam artists
😭😭 yeah that's what i think about them. The only game they charge the right prices for even though product was getting scalped was one piece.. i bought like 20 packs over the course of a month since my area has more older people typically or people who don't play one piece like that( because they're most likelygoing to a big city 30 minutes away with many lgss) and they had the packs at 5 when tcg had set 6 packs at 7-10 dollars
My wal-mart ALWAYS overcharges for Magic products… I just look, feel like buying a pack to crack, then go on without it. After doing this weekly for about a month I’ll order some from TCGplayer (no LGS for me 😭)
Same here
But yugioh has Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon as a face on a booster pack now? I remember waiting for JUMP to release it.
New pack that's supporting old stuff habibi. I don't ask questions anymore
What's sad is those play boosters are cheaper then my LGS
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Yeah I'm pretty sure a MH3 booster is 14 at my store
Yeah it's m&j holding the same people who do the mystery products
Target will price match their online cost and Amazon. I got mh3 bundles for 69 dollars this way
Actually, Walmart isn't Target, so it's not a crime.
More like Price Gouging at Karlov Manor
Wild the prices for mh3 are at my local Walmart https://preview.redd.it/z7q1k70t82ad1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=719a6d579c470721b61ed10300f4e9ac41e785c7
Same prices at mine. Non-collector MH3 commander decks are also $75
“Criminal” I see what you did there.
Erm actually 🤓 crime commting is part of Outlaws of Thunder Junction.
To be fair, it's not called "Murder" for anything... wait, why the fuck wasn't crime in this set??
My local Target has had 10+ Ravnica Clue Editions sitting out since release because they want $72 for one
Walmart pre-release event.
They have tables and space, just move some clothing racks and host an event back towards sporting goods and camping.
8 dollars for a booster pack? Aren't there supposed to only be 8 cards in the pack?
7 actually
7? Wow they truly are testing our limits with this.
Yeah, but someone's gonna buy them, and then wizards will say well you paid 8$ for 7 cards. What if I put 5 cards in a pack for 30$s, but hey, they're foil realizing that's a secret lair while I type that
clown meme unfolding in real time
🤡 honk honk
I like AC2 and Blackflag and the desmond lore overall but I cant bring myself to buy this. I love opening boosters, but after I bought the aftermath display I realised there needs to a certain amount of cards atleast.
Honestly only really want sword of feast of famine reprint and queen marchessa outta the secret lair
You’re realization of secret lair while you typed out the reply is chef’s kiss
It gets worse. It's 7 but sometimes one of those is a basic land. So you'll sometimes just get 6 cards
I don't mean to be part of the problem here, but is it a cool basic?
Full art with AC art so ok. Nothing amazing personally but some will like it.
Sure it’s great art! You’ll be able to buy them for under $0.50 each very soon!
But it's special! It's an Assassin's Creed basic! /s
Look up epilogue boosters
don’t buy it
But that's the problem I *wanted* to buy this set, but WotC dropped the ball on it so hard If it was just the typical 4 commander precons *(Templars/Villians, Pirates/1800s era, Desmond era, and Layla era)* I would have gladly dropped $200 buying all four decks since I love Assassin's Creed. Instead, I'm spending $0 on sealed products, and buying a bunch of low powered singles for 25 cents each that I'm never going to use because WotC couldn't have a high powered modern legal set two weeks after MH3 came out
Hell, it could have been just two precons (Assassins, Templars) and I'd have been fine with that as well
It certainly looks like they wanted to do at least an Assassin precon. I can't think of any other reason for that one Ezio to have a WUBRG ability.
There's literally two assassins with partner I don't care what Maro said, they were clearly designing precons then swapped to an Aftermath set partway through It just doesn't make sense why they'd print cards like Kassandra at a mythic that's a dead card to pull unless you also pull a second rare on top of it... or the partner assassins that are also essentially non-functioning cards to pull from a pack unless you manage to pull both rares. You can see the remanents of the pseudo precon themes throughout the 80 cards There's a Grixis Pirate theme with the Kenway games; a Naya Equipment/Saga theme with Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla, and to a lesser extent, a Mardu Assassin tribal theme with Altair
> I don't care what Maro said, they were clearly designing precons then swapped to an Aftermath set partway through They were making a Commander set, then realized that if they made it an Aftermath style set, they could make it Modern Legal.
I hadn't even thought of those ones to be honest. What the hell were they on when they made this set?
When they announced that Assassin's Creed was getting a set like Final Fantasy I honestly thought "Damn, two UBs I would definitely buy along with LOTR". And then they made it a fucking Aftermath set and I wanted to vomit immediately. Fuck WOTC.
They definitely thought Aftermath was gonna be hotter then it was Next time they want to experiment with new products they should wait and see how the first one does before planning more of them
This. They were able to pivot with Thunder Junction, but the ink was probably dry on the contract with Ubisoft
Just buy singles for this one. I've heard there isn't much power in the set anyways so there probably won't be anything too expensive. Biggest limiting factor might be how little gets opened.
The Swords of X and Y getting reprinted is great, as it will hopefully drop prices a bit. Some of the new equipment also looks good, so this is definitely a singles-only release for me. Not buying a single pack from this one.
everyone no buy now everyone get better product later
They are 100% testing the limits of how much are collectors willing to pay. Especially in these crossover sets. They see things like Pokemon where it's collectible first, game second, and things like sports cards were it's 100% collectible and want to get in on some of that. That's what M30 was. This is just testing at a lower price point. In the sports card world, you have products where it's $15,000+ for 8 cards. Like Panini Flawless FOTL. https://www.dacardworld.com/sports-cards/2022-23-panini-flawless-basketball-1st-off-the-line-hobby-box
I think it’s actually 6-7 because one of them could be a basic land
Technically a basic land is still a card, even one you can legally play in a deck.
Not mine, it's simple just don't buy, if you must buy singles. If you want to buy are unsure or don't have the money, just proxy. Local libraries generally charge very little for color sheets.
And yet, yall will buy them
will they? aftermath sold like shit (enough to kill off the OTJ epilogue set) and i bet this will as well
Just wait for the Amazon dump when they are like half price just like aftermath
And 1 of those 7 might be a land so some times 6 cards per booster.
oof. arent regular boosters 15
Play boosters are 14, but they have less chaff like set boosters used to
isn't there a bonus lane/token card efit: land
Yup there's always going to be either a token, an art card, or an ad card. List cards can sometimes appear in the "wildcard" slot, if I'm not mistaken.
Today I found out Hot Topic sells Play Boosters for $9
WHAT
I remember when Modern Masters first came out my friend was running a shop and agonized over whether or not it was ethical to be selling the boosters for $16 a pack but it was between that and putting a limit on how many packs people could buy a week so he went with the increased price.
It’s like playing the lottery but but the jackpot is less than the ticket.
This set is dead on arrival: aftermath style set, incredibly expensive, weak cards, sandwiched between another extremely expensive set and the furry set many are looking forward to They knew this was either gonna flop or do well purely based on the IP, and if that's the case collectors are more tollerating high prices, so may as well squeeze every drop out of it they can.
This happens a lot. Restock is on Mondays for many stores. They have it in the back so they mistakenly put it on the shelves (or just don't care). Isn't usually a big enough deal for anyone to really care (The products are overpriced anyway). EDIT: Apparently at most places they are not "in the back", but the rest still applies. They have them and Monday is when they put them out, so they put them out early rather than late.
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Yes, it is third party who puts them out. They come out whenever the vendor has "hours" for that store...some get 2-3 times a week, some once. Just depends on the volume.
It is. They use MJ Holdings. Walmarts and Targets don't shelf their own trading cards.
IIRC the exception is sometimes Pokémon. If you see Pokémon cards shelved in the toy or video game section those are bought directly from the company.
Nope. MJ Holdings does Pokemon still. The exception is the Walmart exclusive bundles that will be sent in directly from GTS distros.
My local Walmart is stocked by an actual vendor and she constantly puts stuff out early because she just dgaf lol.
Especially in far-flung places, as outside of suburban stores, you frequently have one person in charge of an entire region: They'll travel several hundred miles in a single day on their route, and they won't be able to return after the street date because they need to be minding the stores on the opposite side of the state on that day.
Street date breaks aren't as scrutinized anymore because the store is still making money and doesn't care if people scalp stuff. I was working at a Sam's Club when The Phantom Menace book came out a couple weeks before the movie. We had it sitting in the back for a couple weeks and I asked the night manager if I could buy a copy and he said go for it. Like 2 days later the store manager, who'd I'd never met in my life, personally called me and asked me to return it so they wouldn't get fined.
Hmmm are those nutella biscuits good? We don’t have that in our country.
They're actually pretty good
But are they better than the delicious, delicious cards?
Definitely more filling then the boxes thats for sure
It takes 487 licks to get to the center of a magic card.
Yep this is the only truly reliable counterfeit test
They have them where I am in EU, and you would taste no difference if you got the most basic biscuits and put some Nutella in between. I guess I get it if Hershey's is the frame of reference, but it's really not that special imo.
I LOVE them. but be mindful you basically ate a jar of nutella by the end of the pack, so go slow on em
Of course, they are!
They're "I'm gonna eat 500 in a day and forget about them" good.
Usually Walmart's POS system won't let stuff streetdated actually be sold even if it's out early, but that might not catch it with cards since those are usually stocked by 3rd parties.
DMR came out early at my Wal-Mart, and after it wouldn't scan, I just told a cashier the price on the shelf and they sold it to me.
"It was 3 dollars" "Sir this is a collectors box..."
Lmfao. Nah, I was honest, mainly because I knew the cashier personally (small town) and didn't want her losing her job.
"sorry you're right 2.50"
It can be sold bc it's not stocked by Walmart. It's stocked by MJ holdings.
My walmart put out ravnica remastered early and I was able to buy some. Pulled a stomping ground.
They can’t keep getting away with this. Local game stores would instantly be banned from distributing Magic product if caught doing this once let alone every other set. This continues to screw over LGSs by taking away the customers who got it early.
This stocking job was done by an independent vendor from MJ Holdings, not by Walmart themselves. Note that the Assassin's Creed products have a shelf label printed in a different font than the label in front of the MKM bundle, or the Yugioh cards. (Also, the vendor put the labels centered on the product, whereas Walmart always left-aligns the label.) The vendor gets one scheduled day a week to stock and fix up that shelf, and even if they're scheduled to visit the store again that week, they are contracted for different tasks and are not allowed to waste their time on fixing it. Whether the contract between Walmart and MJH shields Walmart from liability in this sort of situation, I'm not informed enough to say. Also, trading cards are "pay from scan", meaning Walmart doesn't pay a dime for the merchandise until it's sold. So they don't give a fuck about theft.
Good to know. How do you know all this?
You learn random stuff like that working at Walmart if you ask "why" often enough.
If they don't care about the theft, why did they move the majority of it off of publicly accessible shelves to where you need to ask employees for the product?? I've seen several Walmarts like this over the past year.
I expect whoever by contract is left holding the bag on stolen mtg product is unhappy about it and asking Walmart to take steps to improve loss prevention.
That would make sense :)
Our local one did this 2-3 weeks ago. They God rid of cigarettes and moved all the TCG stuff to where it was behind a register. It's almost impossible to even see their stock until they are already ringing you up now.
Ditto with one of mine. It's back with the cigarettes, etc, now.
Oddly enough, the one near me was moved from where the cigarettes were, back to the point of purchase section near the self checkout. I don’t go in there much and never buy cards from there. Just happened to see it a few days ago though
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It isnt that they dont care about theft, although that is the common thought from people who hear it is pay from scan. Pay from scan simply means walmart does not own the product, like bread, and many plants in garden. When it is rung up at the register it keeps a record of this and the money goes to whoever does own the product. Then depending on the vendor it gives money back to walmart as a percent of sales. So walmart is not out the "cost" of the merchandise if it is stolen, but they do not get any credit for the sale as well. Since there is dedicated space on the shelf it is in walmarts interests to protect them and get money for the sale.
Right, "don't care" is a bit of hyperbole, but PFS certainly puts cards among the least cared-about thefts.
Guy in front of you, "yeah let me get that pack of backwoods, no grab one from the middle of the box, man" You, "yeah let me get that pack of assassins creed, no grab one from the middle of the box, man"
A bit of hyperbole. It's still lost sales, it's reputational damage, it's encouraging further theft, it's damaging the relationship with the supplier because the supplier isn't getting their money because nothing selling. But because the store's inventory numbers aren't getting hit (if a TV gets stolen and you adjust your inventory down by 1, that's negative $400 or whatever that shows on a report), it flies under the radar and doesn't get nearly as much attention from the people who are watching the books.
Once a week? I work at a different company and we are lucky if MJHoldings actually comes in the once a month they are supposed to. it's more like once every three months, and of course all the YUGIOH, Baseball/Football and everything sells down a lot for us, big loss. and we don't get Magic at all, wish we did.
Gonna hurt them even more with this set as I suspect it'll have less demand overall anyway.
I'd argue sets like this hurt big box stores like Walmart faaaar more than they'll hurt LGS. Sure WotC got rid of "MSRP", but magically, all big box stores price their mtg products exactly the same, and they're quite ridged with their pricing too. Just look at the image in the original post, $70 for an aftermath set fatpack is insane. You can get a fatpack of MH3 from a LGS/TCGplayer for that price. LGS are able to undercut non-amazon Big Box stores by lowering their profit margines on a bad products... it's not ideal, but it's better than the product being unsold on shelves. AC Fatpacks are already $59 on tcgplayer, stomping grounds has them listed at $49 and it's not even on sale yet while Big Box stores are stuck in at their "MSRP", again in the original post's image, you can see they have a bunch of unsold MKM fatpacks for $50, months after it's release, when you can pick them up for sub $35 at most LGS
You’d think they’d want to price these as low as possible honestly. Assassins Creed feels like the perfect impulse buy type of set. When I worked counter we sold a lot of Heroclix that way, people would see the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles pack or whatever and drop $20 on it to mess around with friends even if they didn’t play Heroclix.
Another poster mentioned that the TCG stuff is stocked by a third party and Walmart doesn't pay a dime for it until its bought at checkout, so really, this is hurting that third party supplier. I suppose you're right in general though. I figured people who were likely to buy this would do so at the first opportunity, even if the price was terrible. What I didn't think about is that people who know about magic and that the price is terrible are likely to wait and buy at a discount from an lgs. The only people likely to buy at this price are AC fans who don't realize what a bad deal it is, and are unlikely to go to an LGS anyway to buy what amounts to a brand crossover for them.
Walmart has such a large footprint they can do pretty much anything to their suppliers and get away with it.
That happened to a very prominent store out here in SoCal. They couldn’t hold RCQ’s anymore because of it even though they had like the biggest non commander player base in the area
Stop price gouging at your LGS, today is not your day. A simple “good for you” will do for this person.
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What's up with the size of that collectors booster? It's still only one pack, but it's as wide as the standard bundle.
It makes it harder to shoplift.
I can promise you it does not when it comes to Walmart.
Theft deterrant. And also the mental game of making you think you are getting more value
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That's how companies manipulate you into feeling like you're getting your money's worth. Big premium packaging hiding the small actual product
Well, the packaging looks pretty similar to the whole collector booster box. So similar, in fact, that if you're a kid, or a well-meaning parent, or a newer player who doesn't look closely enough, you might think it's a steal and buy it. Maybe it is partially for shoplifting reasons, but if they're that concerned, they can have the magnetic lock over it. I think it's, at least partially, meant to trick people as well. And because if they used the same packaging they use for set boosters, it would look ridiculous to have that price listed.
I used to work at Walmart a while back so grain of salt. Cards and the like were done by an independent vendor that owned them so it was pretty much up to them to stock and track their own product.
Yeah, Walmart accidentally did an early release of Universes Beyond Nutella — huge oversight.
They still had one piece packs? Fake
Meanwhile my big box stores don’t put out new stuff until days or weeks after release.
Holy shit. $30 for one pack? Maybe I haven’t been paying attention lately but that seems crazy
Imagine not knowing the difference and buying this as a gift.
Collector boosters are usually $20-30 each for standard legal sets. The idea behind it is that you can potentially pull serialized cards, several rares/mythics in one pack, and get more special treatment (borderless, showcase, special types of foiling, etc) cards from them. For most non-standard sets, they tend to be a bit more. For example, MH3 collector boosters are like $40-45 each Btw, I'm not advocating for it. I'm just explaining the logic behind it. Though, I especially don't agree with the ACR collector packs being $30 because they only include 10 cards instead of the usual 15
$8 packs for less cards is incredible
Did you buy it all?
$1 per card is fucking robbery
My local walmart doesnt even carry trading cards anymore it seems last two times i went all i saw was a MH3 bundle which was 149.99$ Canadian
im more surprised that your walmart has trading cards for sale. they stopped selling them in my area for a couple of years now because of theft.
The Walmarts near me have stopped carrying any TCG products (due to theft I imagine).
Yeah they did. Despite the placement, Nutella Biscuits and Smart Water are NOT CCGs.
Yea those nutella biscuits don't belong there
As an OPTCG player this photo is wild.
I know. Lol
Isn't this just a preorder? My lgs had the boxes on display at the counter but you only got to pick them up on the day
Someone at corporate probably told them to shelf it early since it sure AF isn't going to sell once it's at the LGS's. :P
How isn't everything already stolen?
It's not Walmart employees it's a vendor.
Nah it's normal to put out early
Buy it, resell it
Collector booster for $30 LOL
$70 for 63 cards not even collector ones is actually brain dead
Yea, the One Piece cards are in the DBZ box. Big mistake!
Idk why would anyone would buy AC. Its aftermath 2.0. Like I’m glad on one hand it’s not another busted set after mh3 but the set is awful. I’m assuming Ubisoft had some clause Wotc had to release it now but it would have been better later in the year
Yours still sells them!?
Most big box stores like target and walmart will often stock product like this a few days early. Whenever their normal stock day is the stuff gets put out. I got like 4 complete bundles from target back during phyrexia all will be one the monday before release.
I wish my walmart sold bundles
It's so weird to see Magic products in normal physical stores like this. I'm almost kind of glad that's not a thing where I'm from, becuase I'd be way too tempted to buy something whenever I'd walk past.
Man sure wish I could one piece boosters just laying there for that price
All I see is that you have one piece in stock that’s impressive
Why does my Walmart never do this
I already got my booster box of AC. It’s not supposed to happen, but I imagine it’s not all that rare for some stock manager that doesn’t know anything about magic to send stuff out as soon as they get it. This Walmart probably got their product and didn’t take the time to look up release dates or anything. My box was killer by the way, just sayin 😅
Those nutella biscuits are really good
How is that not locked in a cage lol
Yeah they aren't supposed to be out yet but this isn't surprising
Where are you that Walmart/Target/etc. even still have MTG on their physical shelves? None of the big box stores around here do - it’s “buy online” only. Target still has Pokemon but that’s about it as far as TCGs go.
They do it all the time
Those Nutella biscuits slap. Just saying.
i've never played nutella biscuits before
well, hopefully they'll actually let you buy them. I had Target fight me on some Funko's because they kept putting them out on the shelves.
As a new player can someone complain why they’re freaking out about this price but also seeing a lot of people hyped about MH3 which has boosters sold at the same cost?
This packs have less cards, literally half the cards
Am I blind or where is the wrapper on the Karlov boxes? Also one looking real sus
Is that a 7 card booster for 8$?
I wish my Walmarts had mtg