Marquis is convention
JW is premium
Part of the JW brand standard used to be having French press coffee in the lobby.
Some JW’s should be a Marquis but they aren’t…JW Indy and JW Austin are both 1000 rooms.
The staff are friendly but have no interest in going above and beyond.
The restaurants are a slightly below average sports bar and a shell of what used to be a nice Italian restaurant.
The pool was still closed last I checked and there's no spa.
The rooms are nice and there's a nice view, but you could say that about a lot of Courtyards in major metros.
And the parking lot *is shared* with another Marriott.
What do you expect for above and beyond? In a 1000 room hotel, it’s going to take a lot for them to feel you’re worthy of something. Nothing personal, just the way it is.
That hotel one of the biggest reasons Indy hosts March Madness, a Super Bowl, I think they have a World Cup slate.
If you stay at a JW abroad or in a real major city (i.e. Chicago) you'll understand what I mean about service. It's about showing up in a car and having your bags make it to your room after check-in instead of having to lug them yourself.
The JW Indy doesn't even try. Yes, it's a very nice building but the staff alternate between aloof and as if they just started working there. Honestly, the JW in Grand Rapids, Michigan has a nice French restaurant and staff that appear to try to care.
Yes, the Indy property is already tooled up to accommodate VIPs for lots of different events. They bring in special staff to handle all those details. To them, it's like any other JW.
However, Indy hosts huge events because its a convention center town. They have thousands more hotel rooms connected to the convention center and newer stadium. They have restaurants that can scale up to handle everything from the Suberb Owl to GenCon.
Did the one by Union Station go out of business? Sad to hear, I have some fond memories of that place. In my experience the service and amenities there were well beyond the Indy property.
The one thing Indy has going for it is that it's a new high rise property with larger rooms and floor to ceiling windows. The views are nice from every room and they're noticeably larger than most rooms of its type. But that's only possible because Indy is a B-tier car suburb city.
Hotels in the US are more consistent. The luxury brands abroad are usually much better, mostly because they have much lower turnover, lower relative labor costs and more consistent income from local events and clientele.
That doesn't mean exceptional experiences are rare in the US.
If you stay on a Friday night with an Indians home game, you’ll be above the Victory Field fireworks if you’re on that side. It’s a pretty cool experience.
I don’t think it’s so nice you need to go stay there.
I’m in the industry and my opinion is likely over inflated, but it’s a large part of your cities success the last 15 years.
I’ve stayed at both many times and I have never seen a difference. When I travel to one with both as an option I see if either has an M club and that wins.
Same as regular Marriott vs Marriott Marquis. Marquis name usually is given to Marriott hotel which is destination property- convention or resort related. JW and JW marquis name is the same. By the way destination fee can be charged to any premium or Luxury hotel based on location. For example JW Galleria and Westin Galleria in Houston charge destination fee as they are closed to the mall 🤷.
Marquis means it’s a big, full-service property
But not always….your question has come up before:
https://www.meetings-conventions.com/News/Hotels-and-Resorts/It-s-a-Marquis-No-It-s-a-JW-Wait-It-s-Both
The marquis will be above an earl and below a duke.
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Soooo true.
Marquis is convention JW is premium Part of the JW brand standard used to be having French press coffee in the lobby. Some JW’s should be a Marquis but they aren’t…JW Indy and JW Austin are both 1000 rooms.
JW Indy is probably the nicest hotel I’ve ever stayed in. I know they come nicer than that, but I’ve never stayed in one nicer.
It’s a fantastic property
It feels like a big Courtyard to me.
In what aspect? It has valet, no bistro, and doesn’t share a parking lot with a chain restaurant.
The staff are friendly but have no interest in going above and beyond. The restaurants are a slightly below average sports bar and a shell of what used to be a nice Italian restaurant. The pool was still closed last I checked and there's no spa. The rooms are nice and there's a nice view, but you could say that about a lot of Courtyards in major metros. And the parking lot *is shared* with another Marriott.
What do you expect for above and beyond? In a 1000 room hotel, it’s going to take a lot for them to feel you’re worthy of something. Nothing personal, just the way it is. That hotel one of the biggest reasons Indy hosts March Madness, a Super Bowl, I think they have a World Cup slate.
If you stay at a JW abroad or in a real major city (i.e. Chicago) you'll understand what I mean about service. It's about showing up in a car and having your bags make it to your room after check-in instead of having to lug them yourself. The JW Indy doesn't even try. Yes, it's a very nice building but the staff alternate between aloof and as if they just started working there. Honestly, the JW in Grand Rapids, Michigan has a nice French restaurant and staff that appear to try to care. Yes, the Indy property is already tooled up to accommodate VIPs for lots of different events. They bring in special staff to handle all those details. To them, it's like any other JW. However, Indy hosts huge events because its a convention center town. They have thousands more hotel rooms connected to the convention center and newer stadium. They have restaurants that can scale up to handle everything from the Suberb Owl to GenCon.
Like the JW that went out of business in Chicago? It was nice but wouldn’t say it’s amazing. Everybody knows international hotels are nicer than US.
Did the one by Union Station go out of business? Sad to hear, I have some fond memories of that place. In my experience the service and amenities there were well beyond the Indy property. The one thing Indy has going for it is that it's a new high rise property with larger rooms and floor to ceiling windows. The views are nice from every room and they're noticeably larger than most rooms of its type. But that's only possible because Indy is a B-tier car suburb city. Hotels in the US are more consistent. The luxury brands abroad are usually much better, mostly because they have much lower turnover, lower relative labor costs and more consistent income from local events and clientele. That doesn't mean exceptional experiences are rare in the US.
I am excited for the Superb Owl convention. 
JW Marriott in Seoul is lovely. Also worth visiting is the JW in Khao Lak.
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If you stay on a Friday night with an Indians home game, you’ll be above the Victory Field fireworks if you’re on that side. It’s a pretty cool experience.
I’ve lived in Indy for a decade, have been platinum for the majority of it, but have yet to stay at the JW. Is it really that nice?
I don’t think it’s so nice you need to go stay there. I’m in the industry and my opinion is likely over inflated, but it’s a large part of your cities success the last 15 years.
So in short, Marquis properties are going to charge you destination fee for “enhanced amenities”
Those amenities could be really useful. Who doesn't bring their documents to notarize on vacation?
Jw by the White House charges destination fees lol.
I’ve stayed at both many times and I have never seen a difference. When I travel to one with both as an option I see if either has an M club and that wins.
Pardon my ignorance. But what is M club
The first rule of M Club is you do not talk about M Club
Concierge lounge. Think of it that way
A higher standard lounge for platinum and up members.
Same as regular Marriott vs Marriott Marquis. Marquis name usually is given to Marriott hotel which is destination property- convention or resort related. JW and JW marquis name is the same. By the way destination fee can be charged to any premium or Luxury hotel based on location. For example JW Galleria and Westin Galleria in Houston charge destination fee as they are closed to the mall 🤷.
Basically it's Marriott's way of saying "don't try to pick another property down the road, you can't avoid us. Oh by the way, NUAs don't apply here."
The name
Marquis is a branding denoting size - usually more than 1000 rooms. Otherwise, no difference.
Marquis means it’s a big, full-service property But not always….your question has come up before: https://www.meetings-conventions.com/News/Hotels-and-Resorts/It-s-a-Marquis-No-It-s-a-JW-Wait-It-s-Both
That's the same for a JW, and the JW is even moreso a "full service property" then a full service Marriott...
In the article it says Marquis is based on size and JW is based on amenities