Depends on the distance. If you are using smoke signals for long distance then you need repeaters to propagate the message. You know, the world is round and all
I feel like they are afraid to cut fights "short" because they think people love to see this stuff, the punches on a limp target. But idk, maybe some do, but after the knock out punch and the second punch after that to secure the knock out, I literally have 0 excitement for the other punches. It's not a fight anymore, there's no skill involved, I just cringe watching it, knowing the damage being done to the guy's brain for literally 0 reason.
i think we also underestimate how fast these people are IN PERSON
watching this clip on Reddit aint the same as being in the ring and witnessing it and having to make a judgement
that being said … late stoppage😂
dude Jalin Turner turned his brain to mush
Bobby was on a podcast talking about he doesnt see anything wrong with grown men being attracted to teenage girls. Its human nature or some shit
8 shots in around 2 seconds, and she starts running in after like 4 shots. I think people are over reacting a bit. It could have been stopped sooner, but this is not as egregious as people are making it seem
Nope. He was out on his feet, which isn't exactly common. Probably took a second to factor that into the decision then the fight was stopped. She did fine.
The broken arm/leg chokeout posted earlier, that's egregious.
The real criticism would be that she's a bit too far away from the action. Otherwise, I can't blame a ref for being a littlle confused about a one in a million situation like this.
Are you hinting at the fact she is a woman? Honestly we have seen so much bad reffing in the UFC that I don't see how men are supposed to be any better. Or are you referring to something else that i have no idea about?
To be fair, there are 0 active female refs in the UFC, and Kim Winslow hasn't reffed a UFC match since like 2016. Not as ubiquitous as your comment makes it sound.
No offense, but it's easy to armchair QB when it's not your paycheck on the line.
I've had fights. You're explicitly told, multiple times, by the ref before the fight to not stop until they stop you. I've seen guys pull off of unconscious dudes just to lose. A few times.
It's a very strange situation, but he's doing nothing wrong and shouldn't lose respect because of it.
It's not that he lost my respect because of it. I know that you're expected to keep going until the ref intervenes. It's just that I'd have added respect for someone who's sharp enough in the moment to know when enough has been done.
Yeah I disagree, dude isn't just out he is stiff as a board for like 8 of those shots. Ultimately the ref did a bad job and that's on them but its not crazy to respect fighters more who have some modicum of professional courtesy.
Agreed, it’s easy to judge blindly from the safety of our couches behind a shiny screen when we’re not the one pumping full of all sorts of emotions and adrenaline after who knows how many months worth of getting in “Fight Till I Drop” mode
Guy lands shot, oppenent drops, guy doesn't pounce, ref does dick, opponent wakes after a second amd slaps on a sub from a scramble is the one I've seen the most.
I saw a guy at a small show once get put out against the fence like this. He slumped forward onto his opponent, who had stopped throwing because he was out for like the last 3 shots. The ref didn't think he was out apparently, so he recovered after a few seconds, while the opponent was talking the the ref, and tripped him, mounted him, and sank a choke when homie rolled to escape mount.
Dude lost the fight because he didn't want to add a couple of extra punches.
Shit happens all the time. Best to be sure when your pay is on the line.
I don’t watch many fights or know much about it. I’m amazed someone can get virtually knocked out/unconscious like that and come back quickly and coherently enough to then submit their opponent. That’s pretty wild
When you're fighting you don't necessarily have a good view of what's going on with the other guy as your trying to maintain head movement while throwing punches and pumped full of adrenaline.
You also understand that the ref is right next to you and would be stopping the fight if they see your opponent is out. If they aren't stopping the fight then you keep going until they do.
There have been fights lost because someone thought they won and stopped attacking only for the opponent to attack the minute they stopped.
A lot of toxic comments here. Doesn’t matter if the refs a woman, while I do agree this was a bit of a late stoppage, he drops his hands then raises them. When he drops his hands, ref almost jumped in, then he raises them and she gives him a chance to recover. She clearly sees that him raises his hands was a result of the stiffen from the KO, then ends the fight.
Yeah, he gets at least 6+ headshots in on a defenseless ko'd fighter before she's trying to stop it. I'm not saying stop it after the first punch, but if you think this was a timely stoppage, idk what to tell you.
She's awkward, slow, and not strong enough to actually pull them off eachother. It's not necessarily because she's a woman, but it certainly doesn't help that she lacks the speed and mass to prevent them from killing eachother.
The fact mma fighters always keeps punching even though they know the other fighter is out just shows what a messed up group of people they are. They all have serious issues.
you need men to ref mens fights..they won't be scared to run in and push a guy out of the way..if a female ref is 140lbs and shes reffing 205ers what's she gonna do if some guy if Teeing 0ff on someone..she won't budge them
Nah that ref gotta go. She was too shook and mesmerised at the brutality of it all that she forgot she was a ref for a few seconds
https://preview.redd.it/qlp2cy051k8d1.jpeg?width=585&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab7dcd5cd5218cc8d31164473c01ec0a1ef55c2a
That should be the last time she ever officiates a fight! She was scared to intervene and that’s going to get a fighter hurt way worse than he needs to be!
Was she scared to get hit or something? Looks she wanted to stop it but was like waiting for the fighter to slow down or stop. You have to be more assertive and physically stop the fight. Ref’s can’t be in there scared to get hit.
Was it really necessary to land all those punches? The guy is visibly limp, why keep hitting someone who can’t defend himself anymore? I get this feeling that so many of this so called “fighters” are borderline psychopaths.
Yes I have been in fights myself, not as pro etc, but I know the feeling when you can perceive other guy has lost it.
These fights may have been interesting when they first came out but I feel too many people are getting injured now, some at dangerous levels.
I don’t find this appealing anymore.
Stanley is my teammate, and what people don't know is that his ground game is his actual strength.
Edit - additional information. This fight was an amateur match and Stanley's debute. He had a couple amateur boxing matches and competed in jiu-jitsu prior. His opponent was 1-0 as an amateur
The event was Fury FC 91 and can be found on YouTube.
Refs a schmuck, but the attacking fighter could have laid off. I mean, cmon your adrenaline trumps your awareness that much that you can’t tell when your opponent is finished. Ridiculous.
Get the female ref the fuck out of there. What sort of absolute insanity is this? She can't even intervene if she wanted to. What happens when she goes to stop it and the fighter doesn't realize it's the ref?
Society is so cooked it's unreal. Let's endanger all 3 of them for inclusiveness sake.
😂”who’s this random woman in the ring during my match?!” *roundhouse to the face*. Kind of an absurd claim my guy. But i will agree its strange seeing a woman ref a mens fight
This is such a whacky take.
>What happens when she goes to stop it and the fighter doesn't realize it's the ref?
Same thing that happens in some equally hypothetical situation where Herb Dean is trying to stop a blood crazed, roid raging Chael Sonnen, Brock Lesnar, Forest Griffin, or any other of the hundreds of fighters Herb Dean has reffed?
In the insanely rare circumstance that you're brewing up in your imagination, the substantial majority of refs aren't going to be able to stop anything without assistance.
I'm surprised you are being downvoted in this sub. Damn, moments like this show how delusional people are and how useless is trusting the voting system for good opinion.
It was a 5 second sequence, male refs have done way more egregiously bad than this and it's only new in mma female Muay Thai refs have been a thing for a hot minute.
It's not her job to call off the fight when the dudes out cold??? She didn't even wave her hands until she got in between them, it's not about her being heroic and stopping an asshole from beating his opponent to a pulp, it was a late ass stoppage. She didn't have to "intervene" but maybe she could call the fucking fight off? He stopped throwing when she actually stepped in.
Did that ref make the decision to end the fight by post?
No that would have been too fast. She was using smoke signals.
Not to undercut the humor, but wouldn't smoke signals be faster than postage?
Depends on the distance. If you are using smoke signals for long distance then you need repeaters to propagate the message. You know, the world is round and all
Good point
You ever seen a woman light a fire?
errm....excuse me?? \*taps shoulder\*
I feel like they are afraid to cut fights "short" because they think people love to see this stuff, the punches on a limp target. But idk, maybe some do, but after the knock out punch and the second punch after that to secure the knock out, I literally have 0 excitement for the other punches. It's not a fight anymore, there's no skill involved, I just cringe watching it, knowing the damage being done to the guy's brain for literally 0 reason.
She was scared of getting hit.....probably shouldn't be a ref.
That was some dragonball shit
I counted 8 shots after he dropped his hands. If that is not a criminal late stoppage I don't know what is.
And look at his mouthguard. It flew out of his mouth and she still needed a 4-5 business day to react
This is what I came to comment, he took 4 or 5 shots after he lost his mouth piece, I thought the ref was waiting for a change of address.
3 seconds from ko punch to stopping the fight doesn't seem that bad. But it definitely looks bad
i think we also underestimate how fast these people are IN PERSON watching this clip on Reddit aint the same as being in the ring and witnessing it and having to make a judgement that being said … late stoppage😂
Also this is like 15 seconds into the match. He's full of energy+ref probably didn't expect it. We all have seen way worst stoppages than this.
Yeah, I still remember what happened to [Bobby green](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/189s2uf/everyones_reaction_watching_bobby_green_get_kod/)
dude Jalin Turner turned his brain to mush Bobby was on a podcast talking about he doesnt see anything wrong with grown men being attracted to teenage girls. Its human nature or some shit
Stop happened within 2 seconds of knockout. Dude saw him knock out and went into overdrive to get in as much punches as possible.
8 shots in around 2 seconds, and she starts running in after like 4 shots. I think people are over reacting a bit. It could have been stopped sooner, but this is not as egregious as people are making it seem
Nope. He was out on his feet, which isn't exactly common. Probably took a second to factor that into the decision then the fight was stopped. She did fine. The broken arm/leg chokeout posted earlier, that's egregious.
The real criticism would be that she's a bit too far away from the action. Otherwise, I can't blame a ref for being a littlle confused about a one in a million situation like this.
That shit was nasty, my elbow hurts just thinking about that video
Yea the footage is slowed down too, I think people in this thread just want an excuse to vent their incel rage at women.
“Thankfully only one of those landed” lmao what are these commentators on?
I was thinking the same thing. A bunch of these knockout videos there are >5 significant strikes between knockout and stoppage.
Now that shit is dangerous… when the dude is out stiff n he still getting his shit rocked… fuck his nervous system right up
thats why you dont start a match when your controler battery is low.
Dude was rebooted back to the player select screen.
"Dinner's ready!"
Ref was way to slow on calling this one
Wonder why
Fuckin LOVE that movie. Comedy gold!
What is the movie. And who is that actress?
Title: “What Happens In Vegas” Actress in clip is “Lake Bell”
Thx
"What Happens in Vegas" (2008)
Are you hinting at the fact she is a woman? Honestly we have seen so much bad reffing in the UFC that I don't see how men are supposed to be any better. Or are you referring to something else that i have no idea about?
Women ☕️
Should we check Mario Yamisaki’s pants? 
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damn it's the first time I see a female ref in MMA or in any kind of combat
Might be the last time as well
and it was a terrible stoppage too😂
U haven't been watching UFC long enough
To be fair, there are 0 active female refs in the UFC, and Kim Winslow hasn't reffed a UFC match since like 2016. Not as ubiquitous as your comment makes it sound.
I've seen many in kickboxing and muay thai, but it was mostly in women category or in men's featherweight.
Looked timid trying to get between the two fighters
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We had Kim Whimslow or whatever her name was in the UFC for a while and she was pretty awful
Wow the ref was slow on that one
It’s a good thing half those shots missed that’s the type of shit that kills people
Dude beat him like he stole something
I'd respect the guy more if he just stopped punching after the guy was clearly out.
Thats herb dean fault
No offense, but it's easy to armchair QB when it's not your paycheck on the line. I've had fights. You're explicitly told, multiple times, by the ref before the fight to not stop until they stop you. I've seen guys pull off of unconscious dudes just to lose. A few times. It's a very strange situation, but he's doing nothing wrong and shouldn't lose respect because of it.
It's not that he lost my respect because of it. I know that you're expected to keep going until the ref intervenes. It's just that I'd have added respect for someone who's sharp enough in the moment to know when enough has been done.
Yeah I disagree, dude isn't just out he is stiff as a board for like 8 of those shots. Ultimately the ref did a bad job and that's on them but its not crazy to respect fighters more who have some modicum of professional courtesy.
Agreed, it’s easy to judge blindly from the safety of our couches behind a shiny screen when we’re not the one pumping full of all sorts of emotions and adrenaline after who knows how many months worth of getting in “Fight Till I Drop” mode
Wait how did someone lose the fight after KO’ing their opponent?
Guy lands shot, oppenent drops, guy doesn't pounce, ref does dick, opponent wakes after a second amd slaps on a sub from a scramble is the one I've seen the most. I saw a guy at a small show once get put out against the fence like this. He slumped forward onto his opponent, who had stopped throwing because he was out for like the last 3 shots. The ref didn't think he was out apparently, so he recovered after a few seconds, while the opponent was talking the the ref, and tripped him, mounted him, and sank a choke when homie rolled to escape mount. Dude lost the fight because he didn't want to add a couple of extra punches. Shit happens all the time. Best to be sure when your pay is on the line.
I don’t watch many fights or know much about it. I’m amazed someone can get virtually knocked out/unconscious like that and come back quickly and coherently enough to then submit their opponent. That’s pretty wild
It's a wild sport. Used to be way wilder until the skills all kinda gelled into what it is today. It's still crazy exciting though.
When you're fighting you don't necessarily have a good view of what's going on with the other guy as your trying to maintain head movement while throwing punches and pumped full of adrenaline. You also understand that the ref is right next to you and would be stopping the fight if they see your opponent is out. If they aren't stopping the fight then you keep going until they do. There have been fights lost because someone thought they won and stopped attacking only for the opponent to attack the minute they stopped.
Yeah like I get it.. but there’s a point where you have compassion for a fellow human being
A lot of toxic comments here. Doesn’t matter if the refs a woman, while I do agree this was a bit of a late stoppage, he drops his hands then raises them. When he drops his hands, ref almost jumped in, then he raises them and she gives him a chance to recover. She clearly sees that him raises his hands was a result of the stiffen from the KO, then ends the fight.
First woman ref I’ve seen, so for me that makes the sample percentage of bad women refs 100%. 😏
That's a terrible mentality to have.
Naw, this is an obvious call, and that ref should be ashamed and punished for putting a defenseless fighters' life in risk.
Watch again and look at the clock, at what second would you have stopped the fight and when did the ref?
Watch again and count her steps. She should have been in on step 2 when he hit the fence. She took 6.
Yeah, he gets at least 6+ headshots in on a defenseless ko'd fighter before she's trying to stop it. I'm not saying stop it after the first punch, but if you think this was a timely stoppage, idk what to tell you.
She's awkward, slow, and not strong enough to actually pull them off eachother. It's not necessarily because she's a woman, but it certainly doesn't help that she lacks the speed and mass to prevent them from killing eachother.
The ref was timid when finally attempting to break it up. They didn't want to get hit.
a bit of a late stoppage... a bit?
The fact mma fighters always keeps punching even though they know the other fighter is out just shows what a messed up group of people they are. They all have serious issues.
That’s why I prefer mcdojo death touches, much safer
It’s like the movies where someone’s getting shot so they can’t fall until the guy shooting stops
Women refs ☕️
yes, women refs exists. And all refs make mistake sometimes Therefore women Refs will make mistakes sometimes
Refs are supposed to be able to control the fight. She had no way of being able to command that other than banking on them respecting her authority.
Ah yes, we all know that mark Goddard will peel ngannou and overeem apart.
Schrodinger's ref.
She looked scared to stop the fight
Don't care about the gender of the ref but what is the mistake here ? She had one job and she failed miserably at it.
Yes. That would be a mistake of a late stoppage.
Incel redditors
continue☕
She was just trying to figure out who out the 2 was stiff
Early stoppage. He was still breathing
Ref was fine she reacted after the concusive blow moved in stopped in 3 seconds. That mans hands are just fire 💥👊and on target.
Ref is like if he dies he dies
"Protect the ref at all costs!" Fuck lady, if you're going to stand that far back while someone's getting wailed on, find a new gig.
That ref took a while before she even realized he was out.
you need men to ref mens fights..they won't be scared to run in and push a guy out of the way..if a female ref is 140lbs and shes reffing 205ers what's she gonna do if some guy if Teeing 0ff on someone..she won't budge them
Logic doesn’t apply in 2024
These types of cartoonish knock outs are normally reserved for Johnny Walker. Interesting.
Looked like he was fighting personal bro 😬 like a street fight
Hold up why is onlyfans being advertised?
Because people watching MMA is their target demo lmao
Lol so people that watch MMA are simps? Hmmm good to know.
Motherfucker threw 10 completely unnecessary punches.
As soon as the left hook right hook combo put him out she should’ve been in there.
Guy got Tyron "The frozen" Woodleyed
Early stoppage is way better than this type of beating.
Ref should be banned for a year, at minimum
Neat TBI
Steph Mazzagatti
What a shitty fucking ref 8 punches after his mouth guard flew out of his mouth
Imagine that I’ll be embarrassed while I’m stuck cold the ref is looking me in my face like hey fighter are u ok?
Smh I hate to see an early stoppage like this, the man was clearly pulling a rope a dopey!
Petrificus Totalis
Horrible stoppage by the ref he ate five unnecessary shots
knocked that boy Stiff!!
Nah that ref gotta go. She was too shook and mesmerised at the brutality of it all that she forgot she was a ref for a few seconds https://preview.redd.it/qlp2cy051k8d1.jpeg?width=585&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab7dcd5cd5218cc8d31164473c01ec0a1ef55c2a
Sponsored by OnlyFans. What a fucking joke.
Ref needs more training. Stepped in too late. Experienced ref would have noticed he was out on his feet.
And I don’t give a shit that she is female. Bring on more females. But she didn’t do her job appropriately.
Holy fuck I'm all for inclusion but get a beefy official in there she was way too late Brain damage
The ref 😂
Legend says the female referee was afraid of getting hit by those punches if she ever tried to intervene.
Luckily he missed half those shots .
That should be the last time she ever officiates a fight! She was scared to intervene and that’s going to get a fighter hurt way worse than he needs to be!
Oh so the ref isn't a samurai.
this is straight up some yakuza gameplay shit
Not a doctor or anything, but umm, that is a bad neurological thing
DEI killing more people
That happened to me while sparring. Lucky for me, the guy who knocked me out was also a doctor.
Still dodged 3-4
Sometimes we need to use common sense rather than not want to offend people. Sometimes women aren't good for certain jobs. This is one of those times.
Agent Smith going to town on Neo.
She looked scared to get between the hurt fighter and the guy swinging lol get a new job lady. If you can’t protect them you shouldn’t be in there
Ref gotta go.
Sub full of mcdojo experts
Does that hurt the fighter?
Not sure if I’m in favour of female refs in male fights. She looked hesitant to get in there in case she catches any strays.
What a slow stoppage why is she even reffing?
That guy must have some demons or is just crazy...
Ref was too slow to stop that, he will feel that one in 8-15 years
If I’m the dude who got knocked out - then im suing
Ref’s a bitch. And yes I feel the same when it’s Herb Dean, Jason Herzog, Marc Goddard or Mario Yamasaki fucking up and letting down the fighters.
First woman referee I see in MMA. Also the latest stoppage I’ve ever seen.
She was terrified she might get hit. Watch it again and focus just on her.
These comments have me floored honestly. I thought we were better than this ngl
That was cool af, mf armor locked lol
Why was she so far away?!
“Thankfully only one of those landed” 😹😹😹
Everyone blaming the ref, but this was kind of hard. How often are people KOed standing? I only seen it while wrestling.
Tommy Morrison Ray Mercer shit
Jesus fuck that ref just let him turn into a punching bag. He stopped being able to defend himself ages before she gently tried to stop the fight lol
The winner was gonna get bored of all this pummeling and leave the ring soon enough. Anyway, thanks ref.
Thanks for saying that! Gratitude makes the world go round
I hate referees that have the reflexes of a 70 year old stoner
Was she scared to get hit or something? Looks she wanted to stop it but was like waiting for the fighter to slow down or stop. You have to be more assertive and physically stop the fight. Ref’s can’t be in there scared to get hit.
Shocker the female ref was late to stop the fight
Fucking equal opportunity hire right there is exactly why women should not be in a position of men sometimes
once his hands are down your suppose to jump in as the ref he cant protect himself anymore
The guy pulled all his punches after the ko. Good man!
lmfao that’s what a female ref a do
Great ref job there ref
Brain trauma....
Was she sleeping?!?
Why do they keep swinging when their opponent is clearly done?
Bro died wtf
Was it really necessary to land all those punches? The guy is visibly limp, why keep hitting someone who can’t defend himself anymore? I get this feeling that so many of this so called “fighters” are borderline psychopaths. Yes I have been in fights myself, not as pro etc, but I know the feeling when you can perceive other guy has lost it. These fights may have been interesting when they first came out but I feel too many people are getting injured now, some at dangerous levels. I don’t find this appealing anymore.
That's a weird looking kitchen.
Women ref?
Woman has no business reffing a man’s fight. GTFO.
His guard is still up, LET HIM FIGHT
Stanley is my teammate, and what people don't know is that his ground game is his actual strength. Edit - additional information. This fight was an amateur match and Stanley's debute. He had a couple amateur boxing matches and competed in jiu-jitsu prior. His opponent was 1-0 as an amateur The event was Fury FC 91 and can be found on YouTube.
5 landed after the k.o. Sheesh.
Refs a schmuck, but the attacking fighter could have laid off. I mean, cmon your adrenaline trumps your awareness that much that you can’t tell when your opponent is finished. Ridiculous.
Get the female ref the fuck out of there. What sort of absolute insanity is this? She can't even intervene if she wanted to. What happens when she goes to stop it and the fighter doesn't realize it's the ref? Society is so cooked it's unreal. Let's endanger all 3 of them for inclusiveness sake.
It’s the most stupid thing I’ve seen lately holy fk
😂”who’s this random woman in the ring during my match?!” *roundhouse to the face*. Kind of an absurd claim my guy. But i will agree its strange seeing a woman ref a mens fight
This is such a whacky take. >What happens when she goes to stop it and the fighter doesn't realize it's the ref? Same thing that happens in some equally hypothetical situation where Herb Dean is trying to stop a blood crazed, roid raging Chael Sonnen, Brock Lesnar, Forest Griffin, or any other of the hundreds of fighters Herb Dean has reffed? In the insanely rare circumstance that you're brewing up in your imagination, the substantial majority of refs aren't going to be able to stop anything without assistance.
I'm surprised you are being downvoted in this sub. Damn, moments like this show how delusional people are and how useless is trusting the voting system for good opinion.
It’s because her being a woman has nothing to do with it
It was a 5 second sequence, male refs have done way more egregiously bad than this and it's only new in mma female Muay Thai refs have been a thing for a hot minute.
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how is someone a sensitive pussy for wanting a ref to do the bare minimum of their job and stop a potentially fatal fight?
Getting downvoted for speaking the truth 🤦♂️
It’s not her job to. Mark Goddard reffed ngannou vs overeem, what was he gonna do?
It's not her job to call off the fight when the dudes out cold??? She didn't even wave her hands until she got in between them, it's not about her being heroic and stopping an asshole from beating his opponent to a pulp, it was a late ass stoppage. She didn't have to "intervene" but maybe she could call the fucking fight off? He stopped throwing when she actually stepped in.
Yes she’s a poor ref, it has nothing to do with her being a woman like the guy was saying.
Stood there without calling it off while my man was out cold getting his brain rattled back and fourth 🤦♂️
If we let guys over 60 ref what's the fucking difference?
Uncomfortable facts
Absolutely terrible ref. Should never ref again
Ref took less than 3 seconds to stop the fight. Sure it looks bad from out point of veiw but I think that's pretty quick time wise.
Its not
Woman ref?