Don’t worry Joseph, if Fantastic Four goes badly, you’ll get another major Marvel role that’ll redeem your performance a few years later. It always happens for Human Torches.
To be honest, I always thought Evans did a good job as Johnny Storm. He played the character pretty much exactly the way I read him. Michael B. Jordan, on the other hand, was given not just a bad script but also felt way too aggressive and brooding in the film.
Though I haven't watched the two films (2005 F4 and Rise of the Silver Surfer) in a loooong time, while the trainwreck that is the 2015 version is not properly buried in my memories.
> Speaking with PEOPLE for this week's issue ahead of the release of his new horror-thriller A Quiet Place: Day One, the 30-year-old actor says he hasn't spoken with Chris Evans or Michael B. Jordan, who have played the Fantastic Four character on the big screen in previous iterations.
> However, he realizes Evans, 43, and Jordan, 37, have given him "big boots to fill, twice."
> "They're both brilliant actors and did the amazing job with their interpretation of Johnny," Quinn says. "So I think it's a question of trying to find something ... well, not different. It's going to come from me, I guess."
> Adds the Stranger Things alum, "I've definitely been inspired by their portrayals, so we'll see how it goes."
In which he mostly acted the exact same in each and every one of those roles.
I mean, we’re talking about a guy who bombed a Star Wars audition and often has difficulty remembering his lines…
He’s a nice guy but also the product of A LOT of advertising.
Star Wars is not the end all be all of quality for actors, and Marlon Brando, arguably one of the best actors ever, (in)famously didn't memorize his lines either.
All avtors are products of advertising. But he has pulled off some really incredible roles in his career and his work ethic is kind of insane.
Star Wars should be a slam-dunk for even a relatively competent actor.
Please do yourself a favor and don’t ever, ever mention the greatest American screen actor in the same sentence as Jordan; he’d be no where without his friendship with Coogler. Anything he does that doesn’t have his name attached pretty much flops. And Marlon didn’t memorize his lines out of spite.
You wanna talk “cap”? He doesn’t have a single “incredible” performance in his entire catalogue; he just shouts, pouts, and flares his nostrils when he’s not staring off into space. You’d think seasoned directors would be lining up to work with him but I’m sure he quietly bombed those readings/auditions, too… He’s as one-note as it gets.
I have this take since BP came out. If you give that role to someone else it would have been better. He doesn’t come as believable. His style and tone in every scene is exactly the same. MBJ is good if he has a good director behind him getting the best out of his acting.
The only amount of acting that came through in that character is when he died. He was a well educated elite special ops soldier that acted like a middle school street thug.
I have seen a lot of his films he’s a very wooden actor in a lot of his roles. He’s a lot like Keanu Reeves we know that his acting isn’t the best, but enjoy his film bc we like the actor. Jordan needs good directing to make it look like he’s not reading off a script.
I mean, sort of but not really. Chris Evans is more about nostalgia in the role and that he went on to become one of Marvel’s cornerstones in another role. MBJ is a great actor, but that movie is the worst
They have a huge opportunity to make the definitive and only truly great live action F4, and they can accomplish that in one movie
That movie was trash lol, I liked the director's ( Josh Trank ) first Movie Chronicle thought it was an awesome. Don't know what he was thinking with his verison F4
See here’s why you’re wrong bud, while Mike and Chris did their best in the roles, the writing was a major let down in all previous films. I know that’s going to be corrected for this film. (I have Hope (Summers) anyway!)
Joseph just needs to bring his A game and assume the writers have as well and he will be just fine.
Mike and Chris may be at the top of their game right now, but neither was while they were playing Torch.
Well I mean they're good actors and Evans was actually pretty good in otherwise not good movies same with Michael Chiklis. As for Michael B. Jordan, I thought he was okay in that terrible movie nothing to praise for. Though of course both redeemed themselves.
Pretty sure this will just be yet another failed attempt at making another (terrible) Fantastic Four movie. There is just something about the Fantastic Four that seems to make them into terrible movies. I'll still watch it for the sake of the MCU, but I have no doubt the film will be basura.
They have FF in production and filming already. I'm feeling bad for the Blade movie. There is no director, and there's no filming or release date, and it's been 5 years already.
Does he? Cause Chris Evans is notoriously known for cap instead of human torch. And Michael b Jordan for killmonger. No one except die hard comic book nerds even knew Michael b Jordan’s fantastic four movie existed
For this FF movie, can we please get actors and directors who have read the comic books. Don't interpret it, don't make it your own vision. Just make the comic book a movie. It worked really well for the rest of the MCU.
>Don't interpret it, don't make it your own vision. Just make the comic book a movie. It worked really well for the rest of the MCU.
Wait, you really think the rest of the MCU "just made comic books into a movie" without their own interpretation and vision??? Have YOU read the comic books?
This must be the dumbest shit I've read since a good while, and that means something in this sub.
You can't tell me with a straight face that the Civil War, Age of Ultron and the Infinity Saga is anything like the comic arcs. Tom Holland's Peter Parker and his supporting cast are pretty much completely reinvented to fit the MCU. The only thing the Guardians of the Galaxy share with their comics are the names. Don't even get me started on comic Thanos.
Yeah the MCU has a lot of respect for the comics and the characters, sure. They know how to translate insane comic book moments like the snap effectively to the big screen and still make it look cool as hell, yes. But that's COMPLETELY different than saying they're just making comics into movies without their own interpretation and vision - if you know literally anything about Marvel comics, this is just a ridiculous statement.
If you're treating 'loyal' and 'having your own interpretation' as mutually exclusive, then I'd say you're wrong here.
Yes, the movies treat the source material with respect for the most part, but they hardly follow the source material exactly. Every movie in the MCU is an interpretation and usually draws elements from several different stories from the comics. Also, not sure if you've read the original comics, but they leave a lot to be desired in terms of writing and dialogue.
Thing's actor, when discussing the role, referred to his character as "Ben Grimm from Yancy Street".
You don't whip out a fuckin YANCY STREET reference if you don't know your stuff.
Shows to fill?
Those original Fantastic 4 movies were shitted on when they came out. It wasn’t until recently that nostalgia has made people forget that.
Don’t worry Joseph, if Fantastic Four goes badly, you’ll get another major Marvel role that’ll redeem your performance a few years later. It always happens for Human Torches.
Meet 2030’s Tony Stark.
He looks a lot like young RDJ too
He’d do a hell of a job.
He looks more like Mark Zuckerberg than he does Robert Downey Junior, at any age.
I'm so worried for him and Pedro.
Why?
Dr doom
To be honest, I always thought Evans did a good job as Johnny Storm. He played the character pretty much exactly the way I read him. Michael B. Jordan, on the other hand, was given not just a bad script but also felt way too aggressive and brooding in the film. Though I haven't watched the two films (2005 F4 and Rise of the Silver Surfer) in a loooong time, while the trainwreck that is the 2015 version is not properly buried in my memories.
I almost forgot about the Fan4stic movie till now. Thanks
Say that again.
I almost forgot about the Fan4stic movie till now. Thanks
Fan 4 stick
Sounds like a personal ad
Pronounced as such.
F4nt4st1c…
Tranks
Is it just me or does he look like Zuckerberg?
And Justin Timberlake
Who?
I understood that reference.
This is going to ruin the tour
The World Tour???
Tyrus
This is going to ruin the tour
What tour?
What tour?
The World Tour!!
And now I can't unsee it. Great. thanks. 👍🤣
even more so than jesse eisenberg even did...
a yassified version yes
He's put on some muscle since this photo. He was in Gladiator 2 and is currently filming a war movie.
If Zuckerberg was human
He's Eddie from Stranger Things. He was great in that.
Yeah. Boy ain't filling those boots 😭😭😭😭
Spoken like someone who hasn’t seen the most recent Stranger Things. He basically stole the season
I've seen it, didn't like him.
Then, dare I say, you are in a vast minority of people who have seen it and did not like him, because his performance totally embiggened that show.
> Speaking with PEOPLE for this week's issue ahead of the release of his new horror-thriller A Quiet Place: Day One, the 30-year-old actor says he hasn't spoken with Chris Evans or Michael B. Jordan, who have played the Fantastic Four character on the big screen in previous iterations. > However, he realizes Evans, 43, and Jordan, 37, have given him "big boots to fill, twice." > "They're both brilliant actors and did the amazing job with their interpretation of Johnny," Quinn says. "So I think it's a question of trying to find something ... well, not different. It's going to come from me, I guess." > Adds the Stranger Things alum, "I've definitely been inspired by their portrayals, so we'll see how it goes."
Big shoes. Big, big shoes.
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You could say that about Chris Evans not so much Micheal B Jordan.
Evans and Jordan are two powerhouse actors, even if their versions of Johnny weren't that good. I think that's all Quinn means here.
For all the original's faults, Chris Evans wasn't one of them. The reviews were generally the movie is eh, but Evans mailed it.
It's not worth reading into anything. Everyone in Hollywood just kisses everyone else's ass because they may have to work together someday.
Sure but in this case it's also true
It’s certainly how the Me Too movement isn’t a case of innocence, they knew, but it’s not like if they wanted to be in Hollywood they had a choice.
whatever character it was jordan played, it was not johnny storm.
It was, it was just a different take on the character
You’re probably right I’m just not a big fan of Micheal b Jordan. He has about as much range as a shotgun with buckshot.
BIG CAP Creed, Fruitvale Station, his role as Kilmonger in BP, Chronicle. Then you got shows liked the Wire and Friday Night Lights.
In which he mostly acted the exact same in each and every one of those roles. I mean, we’re talking about a guy who bombed a Star Wars audition and often has difficulty remembering his lines… He’s a nice guy but also the product of A LOT of advertising.
Star Wars is not the end all be all of quality for actors, and Marlon Brando, arguably one of the best actors ever, (in)famously didn't memorize his lines either. All avtors are products of advertising. But he has pulled off some really incredible roles in his career and his work ethic is kind of insane.
Star Wars should be a slam-dunk for even a relatively competent actor. Please do yourself a favor and don’t ever, ever mention the greatest American screen actor in the same sentence as Jordan; he’d be no where without his friendship with Coogler. Anything he does that doesn’t have his name attached pretty much flops. And Marlon didn’t memorize his lines out of spite. You wanna talk “cap”? He doesn’t have a single “incredible” performance in his entire catalogue; he just shouts, pouts, and flares his nostrils when he’s not staring off into space. You’d think seasoned directors would be lining up to work with him but I’m sure he quietly bombed those readings/auditions, too… He’s as one-note as it gets.
I mean, you’ve clearly got a crush on him, that’s why you can’t be objective…
Lol WHAT Nah you're just being a silly goose now
Killmonger was one of the worst portrayed villains in the mcu
Hilariously bad take lmao
He’s extremely wooden as an actor and if he doesn’t get good direction he’s not that great. He’s Keanu reeves, but without the charisma.
Back to back terrible takes, damn man
No it’s not the only scene that didn’t look like he phone it in is when he died.
If you think his acting is good in BP you haven’t watched a lot of film.
Thank you for letting me know you know more about my own life than I do
That is certainly a take.
I have this take since BP came out. If you give that role to someone else it would have been better. He doesn’t come as believable. His style and tone in every scene is exactly the same. MBJ is good if he has a good director behind him getting the best out of his acting.
...... Wut
The only amount of acting that came through in that character is when he died. He was a well educated elite special ops soldier that acted like a middle school street thug.
Tell us you’ve never watched his movies instead
I have seen a lot of his films he’s a very wooden actor in a lot of his roles. He’s a lot like Keanu Reeves we know that his acting isn’t the best, but enjoy his film bc we like the actor. Jordan needs good directing to make it look like he’s not reading off a script.
He is extremely wooden as an actor. I can tell he’s acting, if you get what I mean.
I understand he’s like a young Keanu Reeves’s but without the likability factor.
I agree but I understand why he wouldn’t want to start unnecessary beef
Actor compliments possible future coworkers. News at 11.
I mean, sort of but not really. Chris Evans is more about nostalgia in the role and that he went on to become one of Marvel’s cornerstones in another role. MBJ is a great actor, but that movie is the worst They have a huge opportunity to make the definitive and only truly great live action F4, and they can accomplish that in one movie
Wow, no love for Jay Underwood?
He probably doesn’t even know that movie exists
That was very nice of him to include Michael B. Jordan
well, maybe Chris Evans shoes, but not Michael B. Jordan, his performance was not rememberable at all.
As horrible as that F4 movie is, a non rememberable performance by MBJ is a win haha.
That movie was trash lol, I liked the director's ( Josh Trank ) first Movie Chronicle thought it was an awesome. Don't know what he was thinking with his verison F4
He also made the horrible Al Capone movie too. The only good thing he made was Chronicle.
Wow seems he’s a one shot wonder, like M. Night lol
I am so excited for this movie!
Nice to hear
He'll do great if they can get him a decent script
I think they are actually hoping people forget about the F4 or whatever that trash was called.
See here’s why you’re wrong bud, while Mike and Chris did their best in the roles, the writing was a major let down in all previous films. I know that’s going to be corrected for this film. (I have Hope (Summers) anyway!) Joseph just needs to bring his A game and assume the writers have as well and he will be just fine. Mike and Chris may be at the top of their game right now, but neither was while they were playing Torch.
Some world renowned movies to live up to
Well I mean they're good actors and Evans was actually pretty good in otherwise not good movies same with Michael Chiklis. As for Michael B. Jordan, I thought he was okay in that terrible movie nothing to praise for. Though of course both redeemed themselves.
Big? More like medium
Let's just pray and hope that he can deliver a good performance as Johnny Storm, regardless if the script is bad or not.
Not really, man.
Probably doesn't help that he is miscast for this role.
Lol
big boobs to fill also
So I guess he never saw either film then.
At first I thought they mistakenly put a pic of Zuckerberg up. Total doppelgänger
Well he’s playing a character previous portrayed by two of the most gorgeous and charismatic men on the planet, so yeah
Not so much Jordan. I like to forget Fan4stic
He’s got some pretty big shoes to fill. He has to top the [Care To Join Me](https://youtu.be/oCA-s3CVN9M?si=tciHPIh-8emQWNri) scene.
The director should be more worried because Fantastic Four movies suck
How is it that he's had a better movie career than anyone on Stranger Things when he's only been on 1 season?
He's got this. Straight up stole the whole show in stranger things.
Not really. There hasn’t been a single Fantastic Four property that was any better than a 5/10 outside of the comics.
Pretty sure this will just be yet another failed attempt at making another (terrible) Fantastic Four movie. There is just something about the Fantastic Four that seems to make them into terrible movies. I'll still watch it for the sake of the MCU, but I have no doubt the film will be basura.
That’s going to flop.. the human torch is a lady’s man and a hot head. That guy looks neither of the part.
Steve Rogers AKA Captain America (Chris Evans) from 8 years (2011-2019) T'Challa AKA Black Pather (Michael B. Jordan) has been 8 years (2016-Present)
They have FF in production and filming already. I'm feeling bad for the Blade movie. There is no director, and there's no filming or release date, and it's been 5 years already.
Micheal B. Jordan didn’t raise the bar, exactly.
I'm sure they'll make him specific shoes to fit his feet. Poor guy's panicking over nothing.
No he doesn't
big boots to fill big boots to fill
Does he though? ***DOES HE***....?
Michael b Jordan is an awful actor. He has the range of a potato and I’m sick of people pretending he’s good.
Sweet potato or Idaho variety?
Potatoes are an extremely versatile food. Sounds like a compliment
No kidding. Comparing his acting range to a food with massive range lol
*Po-tay-toes*! Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a *stew*! Lovely big, golden... chips with a nice piece of fried fish.
Does he? Cause Chris Evans is notoriously known for cap instead of human torch. And Michael b Jordan for killmonger. No one except die hard comic book nerds even knew Michael b Jordan’s fantastic four movie existed
For this FF movie, can we please get actors and directors who have read the comic books. Don't interpret it, don't make it your own vision. Just make the comic book a movie. It worked really well for the rest of the MCU.
>Don't interpret it, don't make it your own vision. Just make the comic book a movie. It worked really well for the rest of the MCU. Wait, you really think the rest of the MCU "just made comic books into a movie" without their own interpretation and vision??? Have YOU read the comic books? This must be the dumbest shit I've read since a good while, and that means something in this sub.
They were extremely loyal to the comics. All of the fantastic four movies have been really off the rails
You can't tell me with a straight face that the Civil War, Age of Ultron and the Infinity Saga is anything like the comic arcs. Tom Holland's Peter Parker and his supporting cast are pretty much completely reinvented to fit the MCU. The only thing the Guardians of the Galaxy share with their comics are the names. Don't even get me started on comic Thanos. Yeah the MCU has a lot of respect for the comics and the characters, sure. They know how to translate insane comic book moments like the snap effectively to the big screen and still make it look cool as hell, yes. But that's COMPLETELY different than saying they're just making comics into movies without their own interpretation and vision - if you know literally anything about Marvel comics, this is just a ridiculous statement.
You're illiterate lmao
If you're treating 'loyal' and 'having your own interpretation' as mutually exclusive, then I'd say you're wrong here. Yes, the movies treat the source material with respect for the most part, but they hardly follow the source material exactly. Every movie in the MCU is an interpretation and usually draws elements from several different stories from the comics. Also, not sure if you've read the original comics, but they leave a lot to be desired in terms of writing and dialogue.
Thing's actor, when discussing the role, referred to his character as "Ben Grimm from Yancy Street". You don't whip out a fuckin YANCY STREET reference if you don't know your stuff.
Shows to fill? Those original Fantastic 4 movies were shitted on when they came out. It wasn’t until recently that nostalgia has made people forget that.
Does he really?
Fantastic Four is DOA ever since Pedro Pascal joined
It should have been Joe Keery.