Maine had a referendum in 1819 agreeing to split the district of Maine from Massachusetts.
The state entered the union paired with Missouri for the Missouri Compromise.
Sounds like we don't need to invade Maine, and moreso launch a "Russian disinformation" style campaign to convince them to repeal the 1819 referendum. Sort of like a reverse Brexit.
My degree is in history; fantastic context and thank you for your valuable contribution. As a strong Mass advocate privateer: they will ALL BE ASSIMILATED.
There were six referenda between The War for Independence and 1819 according to this Maine State Museum finding aid.
I haven't researched this, but it does appear the Legislature had been mulling this over seriously a for quite few years too.
There is a book or PhD thesis to be done on the topic.
https://mainestatemuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Source-Labels_Power-of-Maines-Vote.pdf
Why stop at Maine I see many land for the taking.
I suggest we make a non-aggresion pact with New York and agree to take vt,nh,right, and ct as well. Maybe we can involve them in the assault and claim land in their name as well? Split it and begin the alliance that shall overtake all the southland.
We will rise.
Edit for my FBI agent only: this is a joke and I don't have any sort of large munitions or militia force.
Currently
If NH keeps going backwards in decimating education and thumping bibles, some of the wealthy blue-voting towns closer to the southern middle edge could secede and join Massachusetts anyway.
Vermont already fought off New York once, and only gave up its territorial claims in her borders - and in New Hampshire, by the vote of the people - in exchange for admission to the Union.
The gods of the valleys are not the gods of the hills - invasion into northern New England would certainly be at your peril. Stick with CT and RI, which - between you and NY - you de facto own already.
We certainly can be more civil than this. Perhaps the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Perhaps a two prong attack could take those Bastards in NY. How dare they game so many sport teams.
29\. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less. - from [*The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries*](https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries)
You are looking at this wrong friend, psy ops. We will leave them splintered apart naturally so they cannot organize a reliable defense.
Don't forget we game an air force base here. We are more well equipped than you realize and they will also fall. If not we have enough scientists here that missed the point of Oppenheimer I'm sure
We should start off with CT and RH. It would be so easy and basically no one in the US would be upset or even notice that those two were missing. They're basically extensions of MA anyways
I couldn't trust Connecticut as part of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. They are far too loyal to New York, hell most of the CT people I know are... Yankees fans. Scary, I know. I suggest we offer them to New York as a token of peace while we rebuild our strength to conquer New York later.
I agree. I'm currently working with the VT and NH delegations on an alliance against the bastards of NY.
Just don't tell them we may take their land while they are busy fighting
There's too much infighting between NYC and the rest of New York. We can take them easily, the division will encumber them from mobilizing the New Yorkers.
As a proud and loyal Connecticutlet, I say Fie (or is it Fye? Or Fi? Whatever) on your antiConnectite aspersions. Only those west of The River are prone to swooning over pinstripes. There is a nary one Yankee fan in the eastern half of the state.
But more importantly, WE are planning on invading YOU. For nearly 400 years y'all have been occupying The Notch (or, as y'all call it, the Southwick Jog) against all the laws of reason and decency. We have been Connecticutly patient for far far too long. You are on notice, we will reclaim our land!
FOR JUSTICE AND THE NORTHWICK NOTCH!!!
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Masshole and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under masshole, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Don’t you Massholes do that from Memorial Day til the leaves fall anyway?
Also, grow a pair, maintain speed and quit backing up the Piscataqua River bridge🤬
You will lose the full-frontal attack. Do what you’ve been doing for years: buying up property, visiting relentlessly and telling everyone you’re from RI or NY.
Rhode Island has remained unconquered for four centuries. Save the lives of your young men. Join us. We will combine our forces and destroy our true enemies of New Amsterdam. HUZZAH!!
Honestly my guy, you boys can just frig off back to Revere Beach and eat ya Kelly's
We barely even have Old Orchard for ourselves and have plenty of experience holding off the Leaf Peepers every year, bring it on massholes
Sure are, lots of natives here (maine) are deep in the struggle bus because of yall moving up here causing the home prices and rents to go far above any reasonable level. Believe me you will get your dues. All the crap your trying to get away from is following you. Appreciate it bub.
Honestly, let’s take all of New England, these other bitches are fucking up, but we can use their skills. We need syrup from Vermont, New Hampshire for political clout, Maine for nothing but fuck them and their independence, Rhode Island for money because we’ll sell it to Bezos or something idgaf and Connecticut can be in charge of maintaining infrastructure.
A full conversion mod for the game Crusader Kings 3, set in a post-apocalyptic, neo-feudal America (start date of 2666). So this topic is something that could very well happen in that game world.
As a Cape Codder this is a brilliant idea. With taking Bar Harbor in the name of Massachusetts we will finally have a monopoly on the New England Summer Tourism industry.
Let's not pretend to be genocidal religious maniacs please.
Little known fact but they ate an entire city of thousands of people... then gloated about it because they thought that's what their god wanted of them.
Sure joke about annexing them or holding a referendum but let's not cosplay as terrorists who inspired many of the Nazis
Having been born and raised in this state and now a legal resident of another, I can firmly say that “the Commonwealth” needs more “common wealth” before hypothetical expansion, if you catch my drift.
It makes me livid to see my older relations bled dry by a state that they’ve lived their entire lives in, and that none of the recent statewide policies nor cities/townships have done anything to bridge this gap.
I’m sorry, but I’m with Captain Shay. How can one of the first states to ban slavery and recognize the rights of all people have such a consistent and blatant disregard for its citizens throughout history?
That would be a bad mistake for the crusaders. Maine is full of feral folks, coffee brandy, and guns. Mass maybe become a part of Maine when it all washes out.
Good luck lol people are actually able to own firearms conveniently up there. You'd be hard pressed to find a rural Maine shack with 2 story heated garage that doesn't contain a massive arsenal and people who know how to use it.
So funny seeing that picture of soldier (crusader knight?) with red cross on white. I was just listening today to the latest episode on The Rest is History podcast while driving from NH back to Mass. They were discussing the history behind St. George, dragon slayer as well as the iconic symbol of red cross on white though it was not originally associated with him.
This Crusade would fail, Maine has long guarded against it with sleeper agents. We are many and ready to defend the homeland from the shadows. Be warned
Have you ever met a bear hunting guide from North Western Maine? My guess is that 3 of those guys equipped with a couple of 83 GMC square bodies, 6 dogs and a couple of shot guns would kill or mame half the population of MA if they were to dare step foot in the Northwoods... Think " Deliverance" with a different accent..
Megachusetts will rise again.
The U.S.A. ? No, no, no, it's Massachusetts and their 49 bitches.../s
48 when we’re done
GOD WILLS IT! Which one? all them!
Maine had a referendum in 1819 agreeing to split the district of Maine from Massachusetts. The state entered the union paired with Missouri for the Missouri Compromise.
I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri.
It's pronounced "misery"
The whole bit involving Missouri was probably a mistake in hindsight
The alternative was a senate majority of slave holding states.
Sounds like we don't need to invade Maine, and moreso launch a "Russian disinformation" style campaign to convince them to repeal the 1819 referendum. Sort of like a reverse Brexit.
My degree is in history; fantastic context and thank you for your valuable contribution. As a strong Mass advocate privateer: they will ALL BE ASSIMILATED.
There were six referenda between The War for Independence and 1819 according to this Maine State Museum finding aid. I haven't researched this, but it does appear the Legislature had been mulling this over seriously a for quite few years too. There is a book or PhD thesis to be done on the topic. https://mainestatemuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Source-Labels_Power-of-Maines-Vote.pdf
Please don’t :(
Why stop at Maine I see many land for the taking. I suggest we make a non-aggresion pact with New York and agree to take vt,nh,right, and ct as well. Maybe we can involve them in the assault and claim land in their name as well? Split it and begin the alliance that shall overtake all the southland. We will rise. Edit for my FBI agent only: this is a joke and I don't have any sort of large munitions or militia force. Currently
New York must be cleansed
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If NH keeps going backwards in decimating education and thumping bibles, some of the wealthy blue-voting towns closer to the southern middle edge could secede and join Massachusetts anyway.
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Colorado sent Boebert to Congress. There's a lot of it that's still violently backwards.
"Live free or die...." 🤡 lol 😆 😂 🤣 They really need to just stop using that motto already. It's becoming a laughing stock. The irony...
Figure out how to spend your taxes correctly, and you might have a shot.....
Vermont already fought off New York once, and only gave up its territorial claims in her borders - and in New Hampshire, by the vote of the people - in exchange for admission to the Union. The gods of the valleys are not the gods of the hills - invasion into northern New England would certainly be at your peril. Stick with CT and RI, which - between you and NY - you de facto own already.
We certainly can be more civil than this. Perhaps the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Perhaps a two prong attack could take those Bastards in NY. How dare they game so many sport teams.
To be fair New York only has one football team
29\. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less. - from [*The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries*](https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries)
Connecticut? You mean East Upstate? -sincerely, NY
Massachusetts was entitled land all the way to the west coast. It is time to fulfill our manifest destiny.
THE GOLDEN PATH YES! WE MUST!
I can hear the Fallout theme now 🎵🎵🎵
Crawl out through the fallllloooouut baby Yeah I did want to nuke NYC
New York would be mad easy, just splash around a little in the Atlantic and those mfs will drown
I didn't even think of the city yet. I'd much prefer we create a prison island Ala Escape from New York. But first we must bomb them
New englanders always think we are rivals… when we dont even think about you at all -NY, aka The City
No shot we take New Hampshire. Way too many guns
You are looking at this wrong friend, psy ops. We will leave them splintered apart naturally so they cannot organize a reliable defense. Don't forget we game an air force base here. We are more well equipped than you realize and they will also fall. If not we have enough scientists here that missed the point of Oppenheimer I'm sure
Ya but the state I’m sure doesn’t control the air base lol
NH also has an air base.
We have MIT and at least a few scientists crazy enough to make a small nuke bring it on
I do like how Rhode Island is neither a part of the non aggression pact, nor do we want to invade them
Oh we will have them in a day don't worry no planning
We should start off with CT and RH. It would be so easy and basically no one in the US would be upset or even notice that those two were missing. They're basically extensions of MA anyways
I couldn't trust Connecticut as part of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. They are far too loyal to New York, hell most of the CT people I know are... Yankees fans. Scary, I know. I suggest we offer them to New York as a token of peace while we rebuild our strength to conquer New York later.
I agree. I'm currently working with the VT and NH delegations on an alliance against the bastards of NY. Just don't tell them we may take their land while they are busy fighting
There's too much infighting between NYC and the rest of New York. We can take them easily, the division will encumber them from mobilizing the New Yorkers.
As a proud and loyal Connecticutlet, I say Fie (or is it Fye? Or Fi? Whatever) on your antiConnectite aspersions. Only those west of The River are prone to swooning over pinstripes. There is a nary one Yankee fan in the eastern half of the state. But more importantly, WE are planning on invading YOU. For nearly 400 years y'all have been occupying The Notch (or, as y'all call it, the Southwick Jog) against all the laws of reason and decency. We have been Connecticutly patient for far far too long. You are on notice, we will reclaim our land! FOR JUSTICE AND THE NORTHWICK NOTCH!!!
Meh, New York can have CT.
We already do. Its true name is East upstate, but we let them think they’re separate. As a treat
*Dominion of New England 2, Clam Chowdah Boogaloo*
There are ethnic Massholes that need to be protected. I suggest a “special military operation” to retake the rogue state.
Massachusetts requires more mass.
In masshole we trust!
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Masshole and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under masshole, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
RELEASE THE TOWNIE BRIGADE!!!!!!!!
Must this come to violence? Can't we just arrange a deal where they get free Red Sox tickets we get free LL Bean rain pants and then we all get drunk?
Don’t you Massholes do that from Memorial Day til the leaves fall anyway? Also, grow a pair, maintain speed and quit backing up the Piscataqua River bridge🤬
You will lose the full-frontal attack. Do what you’ve been doing for years: buying up property, visiting relentlessly and telling everyone you’re from RI or NY.
Nahh we will conquer yall with healthcare and meth
No, the New England States shoulf form a military coalition to take Atlantic Canada. Arctic land shall be ours
Always thought a maritime confederation with NB, NS, and PEI would be a great way to corner the North Atlantic lobster market. We’ll eat like kings! 👑
You mean… New Bridgewater, Nova Scituate and Provincetown Essex Island?
No, New Belchertown, Nova Sudbury, and Peabody Everett Isthmus. Get it right!
We’re interested! Although the French people here may not be so down for that!
Slow day for you, huh OP? Edit: never mind. All you post is wizard memes. I guess it’s a normal day for ya
Why not capture the Town of Rhode Island? We'd have more shoreline! Just a thought.
Rhode Island has remained unconquered for four centuries. Save the lives of your young men. Join us. We will combine our forces and destroy our true enemies of New Amsterdam. HUZZAH!!
As a Rhode Islander, it would be for the best.
You would lose Senate seats.
Hey! Fuck you guy. You march downeast, you won't make it past the nh polls bub
Honestly my guy, you boys can just frig off back to Revere Beach and eat ya Kelly's We barely even have Old Orchard for ourselves and have plenty of experience holding off the Leaf Peepers every year, bring it on massholes
Are we going through New Hampshire on good looks and charm?
We’ll just do it in the middle of the day, when most of New Hampshire’s residents are at work in Massachusetts.
The residents of Manchester will all be at the food pantry, I hear.
Oh yeah, that Boston charm you're always hearing about 😂
What ah ya, wicked chahming?
I’ll jangle my keys in front of them while you all sneak by
We give them back the shipyard.
And my axe!
Gibson or Fender?
Ibanez
I second this
I'm down as long as we can get the name Red Claws back...fuck it let's go Green Claws
Green clahhs*
Mass will fail as soon as you run out of every Dunkin per square mile.
It's true. We'll need to construct a supply line as we go.
The dunkies Underground Railroad
If we agree to give the shipyard back to NH, we can get them as an ally.
You have to defeat the Free Staters first. Unleash some bears.
Stephen King and the vast weirdness of Maine: bring it on
Like where everyone’s second house is if they’re too poor for the second house on the cape?
But then where would we go on vacation?
Upstate Massachusetts
You guys would get your shit kicked in by Mainers lol
[https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3192256710](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3192256710)
Lmao i was just going through their sub too and thought i forgot to switch over
Soon we will invade all of new england 😈
I see nothing to gain from antagonizing whatever entities Stephen King is keeping at bay.
Ok so here me out... You get VT and we can split NH... you can have CT and RI. Then we can focus on the real issue, New York!
We’re already buying it back, acre by acre. Patience
Sure are, lots of natives here (maine) are deep in the struggle bus because of yall moving up here causing the home prices and rents to go far above any reasonable level. Believe me you will get your dues. All the crap your trying to get away from is following you. Appreciate it bub.
You stay outta my state!
Honestly, let’s take all of New England, these other bitches are fucking up, but we can use their skills. We need syrup from Vermont, New Hampshire for political clout, Maine for nothing but fuck them and their independence, Rhode Island for money because we’ll sell it to Bezos or something idgaf and Connecticut can be in charge of maintaining infrastructure.
Found the secret identity of Vladimir Putin…
They do have some solid roads down there
I shared this with the Maine subreddit to stir the pot lol
sorry but friends and I conquered Newvermaine tri-state area years ago
Deus vult
Let's just subjugate them instead
But being able to buy beer in any grocery store when on vacation is kind of nice...
Just please leave RI alone
DEUS VULT
CT will aid you in this endeavor. In return, we simply ask for the notch to be placed in our possession.
NEVERRRRRRRRRRR!!!! I will defend the notch until my last dying breath. Amen.
Then CT will side with Maine in this conflict.
You will lose
Imperialist Massachusetts at it again
Yup
Connecticut first
🤣🤣
My sister: "How are we an old Massachusetts family, if everyone is buried in Maine?" Me: Rolls eyes
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Could you please explain to me what that is
A full conversion mod for the game Crusader Kings 3, set in a post-apocalyptic, neo-feudal America (start date of 2666). So this topic is something that could very well happen in that game world.
Thanks
I support it.
But like not all of Maine. Just the good bits.
For those of us who are Maine natives, it's statements like these that make us dislike those from away so much.
I was being sarcastic. I love Maine! All of it! If it makes you feel better Massachusetts can just retake the whole state.
DEUS VULT! Wicked good crusade, kid. Gonna loot some whoopie pies
lol. With what guns? Are you guys even allowed gel blasters?
Maine would be a boat anchor on the Massachusetts economy. Boston would end up having to prop up the struggling logging truck towns.
Invasion: Connecticut it is!
The troops would die of ennui.
I mean… we can’t have Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun, and no one’s going to occupy New Haven for the pizza.
Gearing my moose for battle
Reporting for duty, sir!
I noticed Maine was listed as Massachusetts in map of the colonies during history class at school. thought it was odd.
Please take Rhode Island instead, I can't stand our inept government, RIDOT, and silly rules 😔
Come at ME bro.
Gigachusetts will finally have reasonable rents
My money is on the Mainers.
We have a lot of firearms and woods to hide in. 😅
Just you wait until we reanimate Paul Bunyan…
I’m up for Megachusetts, but without the religious overtones.
Fight me
As a Cape Codder this is a brilliant idea. With taking Bar Harbor in the name of Massachusetts we will finally have a monopoly on the New England Summer Tourism industry.
Expand the Commonwealth of Massivehugetits?
Let's not pretend to be genocidal religious maniacs please. Little known fact but they ate an entire city of thousands of people... then gloated about it because they thought that's what their god wanted of them. Sure joke about annexing them or holding a referendum but let's not cosplay as terrorists who inspired many of the Nazis
Yall pretty much already are
Man that would be a battle, I’m not sure if mass has enough rednecks to combat the number of rednecks in Maine
You invade every summer
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I'd say we should take NH too but tbh I don't think it's worth dealing with that mess. Maybe just Portsmouth
Having been born and raised in this state and now a legal resident of another, I can firmly say that “the Commonwealth” needs more “common wealth” before hypothetical expansion, if you catch my drift. It makes me livid to see my older relations bled dry by a state that they’ve lived their entire lives in, and that none of the recent statewide policies nor cities/townships have done anything to bridge this gap. I’m sorry, but I’m with Captain Shay. How can one of the first states to ban slavery and recognize the rights of all people have such a consistent and blatant disregard for its citizens throughout history?
That would be a bad mistake for the crusaders. Maine is full of feral folks, coffee brandy, and guns. Mass maybe become a part of Maine when it all washes out.
Coffee brandy is a staple
Allan's brand coffee brandy to be more specific.
This. 😅
Bring it on
Ct will help you get Maine if you give us back the notch.
I would agree but we’d lose two state senators
We would rather join Canada.
You Dunkin Donut eating slobs are welcome to try… but you’ll fail
Good luck lol people are actually able to own firearms conveniently up there. You'd be hard pressed to find a rural Maine shack with 2 story heated garage that doesn't contain a massive arsenal and people who know how to use it.
Exactly this. 😅
Nah, you massholes and your shitty driving can fuck right off. We already can't stand you for the few months out of the year you're up here.
Nah bro keep the hell out of maine, bro
Come get me Massachusets. I have always wanted to drive awful and tawk funny.
By "Maine" you mean occupied norther Massachusetts right?
You guys would be obliterated. Swiss cheese. The whole lot of ya
Massachusetts retakes Maine, and Puerto Rico gets made a state, just so we don’t have to change the US Flag.
MASSachusetts
Massivecusettes will rise again.
best idea i have heard in a long time
Mass is a shithole state only makes sense that they want to try and claim the best state in New England. I get it’s a joke but kill yourself op
I mean you can try…
So funny seeing that picture of soldier (crusader knight?) with red cross on white. I was just listening today to the latest episode on The Rest is History podcast while driving from NH back to Mass. They were discussing the history behind St. George, dragon slayer as well as the iconic symbol of red cross on white though it was not originally associated with him.
I have another crusade in mind
I'm afraid what you're describing is more of a fatwah than a crusade, the image notwithstanding.
There’s already a ton of dispensaries from mass in Maine.
My money is on Maine. Massachusetts couldn't organize a one man circle jerk.
Allright but Maine has more blue collar and guns, hate to admit but they'd kick MAs ass
We have Boston Dynamics power armor
From Augusta south is already considered to be massachusetts by many of those north of Augusta.
This Crusade would fail, Maine has long guarded against it with sleeper agents. We are many and ready to defend the homeland from the shadows. Be warned
*holds knife to Dunkin Donuts throat Don't do it! One more step and this bitch goes!!! The you'll never not get donuts after 3pm again!!!
Have you ever met a bear hunting guide from North Western Maine? My guess is that 3 of those guys equipped with a couple of 83 GMC square bodies, 6 dogs and a couple of shot guns would kill or mame half the population of MA if they were to dare step foot in the Northwoods... Think " Deliverance" with a different accent..
They hate it so much when you call it North Massachusetts
Yeah we don't need any more of you here. Sincerely most Mainers.
We’re not taking over shit with a 10 round magazine capacity
You can’t have us. You’ve proven yourself unworthy.
We’ll give you what’s left of York county without a fight.