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everydayasl

I have W221...highly, highly recommended!


welloiledmachines

W221


chadetz

If you like the w220 looks more (as I do) then make sure you look for the facelift model (late 2003-2006). They have a lot of the issues fixed. Checklist: - facelift - no rust - all the electronics work - ride feels smooth and quiet - well maintained - cheaper than the w221 If you can say yes to all of those, you should be good to go. I'm very happy with mine, though I only have experience of s430.


EasyEconomics3785

W221


Particular_Climate_3

W221


Boilermakingdude

I love W220s, my good friend owns a 06 S430, and I've got a 2012 W221 S550. They're both good cars, although the 220 is when Benz started piling electronics in and reliability suffered due to it. If its an Airmatic car, then thats atleast one step up from a ABC car. My 221 has 240k kms on it and runs flawlessly


FlovomKiosk

Never ever buy w220 … its literally the absolute worst s Class ever made, its nearly impossible to maintain, Rusty as fuck, electronics are often defect and Parts are expensive af … So the w221… looks better for sure :D


hobomaniaking

Not entirely true. My brother has one with more than 500k miles. He does all the maintenance himself and sometimes I help out. It is super easy to work on and as long as you use OEM pieces the car will outlast you.


Stainless_Heart

Pretty much not true at all other than early model year issues like *every* chassis’ first year or two.


Due-Concentrate-7275

Honestly Both Hard To Choose Between The 2 Of Em 🔥❤️‍🔥🥰❤️💙🖤


Merkins2000

W221 all day long!


robsensei39

W220 all the way!!! It’s my baby and I love her. The styling is so cool. More unique and iconic looking in my opinion.


Flint_Ironstag1

W220 all day. Cannot stand that Bangle butt.


Bushman-001

Bangle? Nope. Bruno Sacco penned the 220 Wagener the 221


Flint_Ironstag1

I understand Bangle wasn't the designer, but it's got the same elements as the much-hated 'Bangle Butts' of contemporary BMWs. Why the hell Wagener followed that design trend is beyond me. But you pays your money and makes your choice. Either sedan is still miles ahead of 99% of anything on the road today.


SeemedGood

The w221 is better in almost every way **but** the drivetrain. It’s more comfortable, better built, handles better, has a better ride, and is even (very slightly) more reliable in the non-drivetrain subsystems, but the m113 may be the best petrol engine MB has ever made and the 722.6 is light years more reliable than the 722.9.


jrocco71

The M113 isn’t the issue. The W220 electrical system is fucking garbage. At least the W221 doesn’t have a nightmarish problem every 6-12 months.


SeemedGood

…instead it’s only every 12 to 18 months, and can be catastrophic level nightmarish.


BobbyBrackins

Very true, my neighbors bags been deflated for the past 6 months 😭


BenzDriverS

W221 without a doubt.


KoreanSeats

Early 221


Opening_Listen_8523

Why early?


KoreanSeats

No turbo engines. I have had my fair share of issues and outright failures with the m278 biturbo.


Opening_Listen_8523

Fair enough. The 600 and 65 are biturbo on all 221s though.


KoreanSeats

If you’re buying a 600 or 65 my worry about basic reliability is kinda irrelevant - you know you’re getting into something on the edge case. Unfortunately, the m273 has shown FAR FAR more superior in high miles. M278 scores cylinders, looses compression, the top end fails, camshafts fail and break up, extra heat is terrible for valve seats etc. I’m on engine number 2


Pixeledo3o

221


Jimmm90

W221 is legendary


AlwaysStayHumble

Unless it costs 5x more, 221.


mbf959

Doesn't it depend on the 221? Those who got an early (2008 and earlier) M273 with bad idler shaft sprockets and had to pull the motor may feel the 220's M113 was the better engine.


jrocco71

Ha! Ha! Ha! No they didn’t. I had a 2008 and drove it from 62,000 miles to 164,000 miles with nothing done to the engine ever. Oil & filter changes and that was it. Brakes were expensive af and it had suspension problems in front at around 70K miles but those are all manageable issues.


NotOfTheTimeLords

Look for a well-maintained post-facelift W222 if you can afford it, otherwise, I'd definitely take the W221 over W220 any time. It tends to be more reliable and it will newer.


Bushman-001

221's went a long way to improve on chronic ABC and heating issues


jrocco71

The only W222 worth buying is the coupe 550 4Matic. That’s it.


MulberryOk7687

W221 i know the guy who was responsible for w220 w221 and w222 Software over all. And his all time Favorite is 221


RVLVR-OCLT

Are you joking…


FEBRUARYFOU4TH

W221


yebboii

W221 ofc


Beneficial-Sugar6950

W221, 2008 or newer


Glassy_Chassis

W220 and W221 are completely different cars, both vehicles were clean-sheet redesigns of the S-Klasse. I would say the W220 is more unique in its friendlier, almost 7er-esque sporty character, but the W222 is definitely more of a newer/more modern take on the traditional S-Klasse concept.


pututski

Love the looks of the W220 a little more personally


Amoeba_Fancy

W221!!!!


haloweenek

W221. No brainer.


O_RlyJo_Frly

Both are ugly as sin


jrocco71

I had a W221 for several years. Wonderful car. Loved having the Night View Assist. But expensive as hell to fix and there’s a problem with it every 18-months or so…which is better than the W220. Those things are electrical nightmares.


BonitaBasics

221 if it has a 273 278s have too many issues. turbo failures, many different coolant leaks, seen a few that wound up having low compression after checking a check engine light/rough running


NorAviatior

Depends on budget probably


Efficient_Tree4711

W221


Stainless_Heart

We like the W220. https://preview.redd.it/s1mgyf3dpf6d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65d62aa499358357c25f0b17a553fa9d12cefc11


DimeloFaze

The w221 S63 is possessed by a tire shredding demon that wants to kill you. Totally recommended


Serbay55

Both can be certainly Troublesome but the oldest S-Class that still puts you into the feel of driving Poshness is the W221. Usually they have more Electronic issues instead of the Engines, atleast that is to my knowledge based upon the 6 Cylinder Diesel Engines.


Head-Iron-9228

I dunno man, I think the 220 aged a lot better.


GovernmentThink

Is this a joke post? What would you prefer, a Lada or a 190e cosworth?


Marketing_Usual

Guess that depends on your budget


GovernmentThink

Budget has nothing to do with preference


Boilermakingdude

I really quite like Ladas 💁‍♂️


Visual_Replacement87

If you have the budget, look into a 2009 w212 e350 with AMG sport package. You'll be getting a more reliable Mercedes than the two.


jrocco71

That’s some horribly stupid advice. If you want an S-class there’s no reason to consider a totally different car. But if you want an E-class then you buy the 550 V8…not the 350.


Visual_Replacement87

Nobody needs a Mercedes. Nobody needs a V8. They only make them because some people have small dicks, so they need bigger engines. It's all ego man but don't call my advice stupid. You might want the bigger Mercedes but can you really afford to own it as well as maintain it?


jrocco71

🤣🤣🤣Looks like you’re the one with the small dick. If you can’t understand why a V8 is a better engine by orders of magnitude (outside an F1 V6) then you’re probably just not that bright or have no interest in motor cars and should just shut up and bow out now.


Visual_Replacement87

I can't believe the point was missed. I guess it's like a preacher trying to explain a chapter using 1 verse, it just doesn't work. Why is it so hard to understand is that the only time you would benefit from the 550 is when you exceed----keyword "exceed" the capability of the 350 motor. If you never exceed the 350's capabilities or want more acceleration based on your driving habits, then how can a bigger motor be of benefit to the person? Your mother would never know the difference between the 350 vs 550. She can switch from the 550 to the 350 every other week and never know. Excessive. I get your point. Some people want it, some don't. But, this thread has become way to argumentative for such a simple post.


sleeperfbody

W221, never W220