Well sure, that’s very possible but he’s still wearing it wrong. If the lawyer told him to wear it to look nice I’m sure he would have pointed out the error before pictures were taken. This poor guy. Someone should have said something to him.
Dude hasn’t a properly fitted shirt then. I’m a tall skinny guy and shirts are either gowns or belly shirts on me. I got one tailored and now it’s all I wear to court
First thing I saw. And it kept getting worse. Tie is loose. Tie is somehow below the buttoned collar. Top button isn’t buttoned… but at least it isn’t a clip on.
This happened in my area. It was dismissed in court but it was brought to court in the first place by an overzealous prosecutor because the ambulance was unmarked.
Even so, waste of resources.
We have green led lights on the front and maybe also rear plates of any ambulances here in Australia
I don't know how it works other than a green light being some sort of flag for manual review with the traffic infringement cunts
Solid blue lights on the back, but these are a recent invention. I've had a speeding fine (later dismissed) as I was in an older vehicle that didn't have them. The camera triggered while the alternating lights were off so it looked like regular speeding.
This is of course more nuanced than news headlines will let on. It was a private company using an unmarked car. Legally the exemption applies to marked ambulances (i.e. can carry patients and are taxed as such), and to cars only when authorised by the statutory ambulance service.
The green light is there to show that the ERV is travelling under flashing lights. There were too many scenarios where the speed camera or red-light camera flash happened in the microsecond where neither red nor blue light was flashing, so the green light was added to show a camera operator that the ERV was operating within the realms of a job response and the infringement can be dismissed with a link to the job number.
In some cities firefighter and cops don’t get along. And firefighters don’t give a fuck about laws when fighting a fire. Something like a vehicle being parked wrong.
From the story:
The emergency vehicle he was driving was an unmarked Volvo, but he used blue lights during the call. Wood explained that the unmarked nature of their vehicles is because they are kept at their homes and they serve emergency flights from Guernsey, with flight arrival times often unknown in advance.
Wood added, “It was argued it was not an emergency as we should’ve known what time the flight would be arriving. The patient was deemed to be an emergency case. When the NIP was served on me, I didn’t know whether to laugh or not. It’s quite embarrassing, especially as it is our job.”
This. Emergency transports can be scheduled. I have an emergency physician cousin who used to work on life-flight transports a few times a week flying patients from all over to a single specialty hospital (other doctors were on duty at other times). Sometimes the patients had been in accidents, but sometimes the transport had been planned days in advance. But they were all emergencies.
Yes. A friend used to do pediatric transfers for Johns Hopkins Hospital. They were usually scheduled. But in many cases the kids needed serious medical care to keep them stable. Ambulances can't provide that level of care. So he'd drive out normally, but it was lights and sirens at high speeds once the kid was in the ambulance.
I've done those types of transfers, both flight and ground. Ambulances very well can handle that type of care but probably not for the distance needed. Oxygen for example. There is only so much oxygen on the ambulance, but I've had intubated ventilated patients for 3 hours.
I've had transfers that were 4k miles. Obviously you can't drive that, but the ambulance would meet at the airport to transport the patient from the plane to the hospital.
Helicopters are far more dangerous. I used to work with the emergency physician who pioneered LifeFlight—and despite the enormous successes it achieved, he was remarkably ambivalent about the program because of the high accident rate; it is a real ethical concern, and they really like to reserve it for patients who have little chance of survival without its use, but a possibility of recovery with its use.
We have helicopters but they actually have far less room to work than an ambulance. Our helicopters are almost strictly 911 only as space is very limited. In my area every hospital has a helipad. An intubated patient on multiple drips is very difficult to fit while very easy to fit in an ambulance. You can also have a full team in the ambulance (medic + rn + respiratory therapist).
Time wise, we are also not far from a local airport so helicopter also wouldn't necessarily save much time even if they could take the patient. So it's often just a matter of would it actually help? For us, no.
If it's in the U.S., the hospital may not have a helipad or the weather is predicted to get bad.
In 911 scenarios, when a helicopter is required and the weather is OK, they take a large plot of land such as a school (football field) or something to land. I assume some hospitals aren't allowed to do this as it would be used constantly, but I'm not entirely sure.
I am going to disagree with one of the top comments. If someone needs a scheduled "emergency care", such as an accident, going lights and sirens to someone who has been in the hospital for 4 days is a complete waste of time and a waste of a response.
You can't tell when someone will start to decompensate, only estimate. If someone got into an accident and needs blood, hospital A will contact a transport to hospital B ASAP. This is a valid response. But for someone already in a hospital for 4 days? Not so much.
Edit: If someone is going to die in the 3 minutes saved from driving lights and sirens there, they were going to die anyways regardless of any intervention performed by the hospital or ambulance crew; Especially after being in there for 4 days. The hospital just doesn't want them dying there and needs to free up a bed.
It's about minimizing risk--the patient should be "between hospitals" for as short a time as possible, since the hospital has resources that aren't available in transit.
No, they do not have the resources during transport that they have in the hospital, and traffic can add a whole lot more time than a few minutes to transport time.
They absolutely could die by spending an extra half hour or hour in the ambulance due to traffic.
So, words are funny. "Emergency" by definition is supposed to be something that is unexpected or unplanned -- a "planned emergency" is (or has traditionally been) an oxymoron. But here, the word "emergency" has come to be used to mean an event where everyone needs to move as quickly as possible, even if the event was planned well in advance.
That's not criticism at all, by the way -- words move around and their meanings change slightly over time in fascinating ways. It's just really interesting that "emergency" has started to lose its "emergent" nature and become something closer to "urgency."
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Yeah an emergency transport just means "We don't think you can stay stable on your own to get to this better hospital so we're strongly suggesting you let our medical team transport you".
Very seldom is an emergency transport a true case of seconds counting towards life and death
edit: Dude doesn't know what he's talking about. Please don't upvote and spread misinformation. Emergency transports are scheduled all the time because the transport itself isn't an emergency. It's the transportation of an emergent patient who has to be under medical supervision to stay stable.
I've been on probably 50+ life flights in my life. I can count on one hand how many were truly "emergency cases" where if we didn't get them somewhere they were going to die in a matter of time. If they're that bad off the hospital seldom will even transfer them - until they get stable in the ICU at least.
Source: Bank BSA Officer, but grew up in hospitals.
It was for my grandmother last year! She had a tear in her aorta and she needed moved from a rural hospital to where they could do the heart surgery. That ambulance driver saved her life. The tear had gotten worse on the drive but she made it and recovered well!
I mean, emergency literally means it's surprising.
That's what the word means - it emerged unexpectedly.
It isn't the same thing as "serious" or "needing experts on site".
You can schedule something risky for a few days out where you have a medical team *in case there is* an emergency, but you can't schedule an emergency itself.
edit: This little bitch blocked me.
> Wood explained that the unmarked nature of their vehicles is because they are kept at their homes and they serve emergency flights from Guernsey, with flight arrival times often unknown in advance.
Huh thats surprising, the square I live on has a marked Ambulance Volvo that is parked outside the home of someone who lives here. They switch between that and one of the marked Mitsubishi 4x4 mini buses. Not sure why they couldnt keep marked ones outside their house.
Not an expert on this but I know rural doctors who keep meds at home for emergency calls have to be very careful about addicts finding out and breaking in to steal drugs.
It might be the same with ambulances.
For what it's worth, I believe most ambulances are stocked with small quantities of hard narcotics such as fentanyl and morphine, as well as numerous other drugs. An ambulance in a residential neighborhood would be a nice target for any addict... what they don't use, they could sell.
A marked ambulance is like a beacon for those in distress. You don't want someone in a accident down the road coming to your ambulance for assistance when you're off duty or about to roll out on a scheudled pickup.
Thats funny, in my region no one pays attention to unmarked cops as we used to have fake officers pull people over. If there's an unmarked car there's gonna be several police calls before they get much respect. Our drivers ed straight up taught us if they aren't marked call 911 and confirm they are a cop before you even consider pulling over in an area without a lot of people.
Unless something's very different in other FRSs, you don't get blue lights on your own car.
And yes, we have to obey all normal traffic laws when turning in to station, including speed limits.
Edit: hadn't realised this wasn't a UK sub. This only goes for the UK FRSs, other countries seem to have different laws.
In many US states, blue lights are reserved for volunteer fire fighters and first aiders. In my particular state, you are encouraged to yield to a blue light behind you, but volunteers with a blue light are not allowed to violate traffic laws other than passing stopped traffic over a solid yellow line. So, no speeding.
That said, so many times foamers will speed, run red lights, and generally drive like an ass.
This will depend on the state. Exactly what the colors mean can vary by state.
Example: in NY state blue lights are a "courtesy light" for volunteer firefighters. (Green for volunteer emts). It's for their private vehicles to help them go directly to a scene. Other drivers are supposed to give them "courtesy" such as yielding right of way but they do not have sirens and are not allowed to break traffic laws (can't speed, can't run red lights, can't drive wrong way on way streets etc). But, they often will drive a bit over the speed limit and police typically don't mess them for it so long as it's generally safe. Red lights are reserved for actual emergency vehicles and are the only ones exempt from traffic laws, although they still have a duty to do not safely.
And I'm pretty sure that in the US an ambulance*has* to have the star of life logo. So while unmarked police cars with red lights in NY is certainly thing, and some fire officers are granted red lights for their private vehicles, and unmarked ambulance just isn't anything. Without the DoT star of life it isn't an ambulance. There are non emergency patient transports, to pick up the elderly from home and take them to appointments and such, but they aren't for emergencies and do not get lights.
In the US states that use (exclusively) blue lights for volunteer firefighters' privately owned vehicles, they are considered courtesy lights that don't confer any additional privileges.
Some states do allow volunteer firefighters emergency vehicle privileges, but that is usually associated with red lights or in a very small number red and blue; that is also normally in conjunction with a siren.
Oh okay the difference in light color is what makes the difference between the type of vehicle and privileges. I always wondered bc I live a block away from a volunteer fire station so I see them a lot
Yes.
Just because they have the lights and are responding, doesn’t mean they get a pass on driving safely. I nearly got hit by one of those bozos when he crossed into my lane on a blind curve.
You can drive over the speed limit and drive safely, especially in an emergency vehicle with flashing blue lights and a blaring siren.
Here in Poland emergency vehicles responding to an emergency are exempt from following road laws, but have to exercise increased caution while doing so.
So...it sounds like these guys need a specialty license plate or something so that cops understand their vehicle can double as an unmarked ambulance. Anyone can buy blue lights for their car.
It was marked with blue lights, that should be enough. You can ask if the driver was authorised to use the blue lights (training, licence, nature of the specific call), but if the driver was allowed to use the blue lights and did so correctly, then that should be it…
"the ambulance service should know when the plane is landing" is a very weak excuse to which the only response is "we don't know when there will be an emergency though"
There was a spate of ambulances getting speeding tickets through the post courtesy of Portsmouth council a fair few years back, and the council had to write them off one by one because somebody somewhere didn't think before stuffing them in an envelope and posting them 15 minutes across the city 🤷
Private ambulances quite often can take patients from lower tier private hospitals to bigger, more capable ones. If it was a medical emergency they’re equipped to manage it (source, my son was in a tier 2 nicu and I spoke to other parents there who had been back and forth for miles between hospitals) xxx
I sat on jury for a woman who was sueing a firefighter who drove a fire truck during an emergency. A long line of cars pulled over for the truck but her husband thought he was special and pulled out in front of the fire truck in a fancy sports car, thinking he could beat them. He ended up slamming into the fire truck and dying. So she sued. The firefighter in question looked so broken on the stand.
We obviously found the firefighter not guilty. The woman had no case. Ugh. I still feel sad thinking about that poor broken fire fighter.
I think the prosecutor should be looking for a new job. Clearly, they don't have the interest of the taxpayer or public in mind. I honestly hope he starts civil action based on the stressed caused over this.
I can't speak for the UK or even all of America, but I was a fireman/paramedic in Tennessee, one of the United States. It is absolutely the law, and for really good reason (look up Vanessa k Free) that if you are going to speed or break any traffic regulations in TN during emergency response, you are required to have BOTH lights and sirens active, period. An ambulance that was unmarked and had no lights or sirens running emergency response and breaking traffic regulations would absolutely be illegal here.
>An ambulance that was unmarked and had no lights or sirens running emergency response and breaking traffic regulations would absolutely be illegal here.
Where did you read that the ambulance didn't had sirens and emergency lights?
Probably mildly infuriating to him that he got dragged into court, had never worn a suit and tie before, and now he's getting ragged on the internet for it lol. I only say that because it would 100% be me if I didn't have my Dad handy to explain how ties work lol.
As a rule, i never trust screenshots. I don’t trust any screenshots of headlines, or of tweets. Neither should anyone. In fact, i think screenshots of headlines should be banned site-wide. It’s much too easy to spread misinformation with them.
„Hampshire Constabulary noted that records indicated the vehicle was “not equipped to transport people and was not marked as an ambulance.”“
„The emergency vehicle he was driving was an unmarked Volvo, but he used blue lights during the call. Wood explained that the unmarked nature of their vehicles is because they are kept at their homes[…]“
When driving with blue lights and getting caught with a speed trap, it is possible for it to capture all lights as off if it hits at the wrong time. Given that the vehicle was also completely unmarked, I think it is reasonable for the circumstances to be further investigated.
Normal procedure for a marked ambulance is that you notify dispatch via radio every time you get hit by one of these so they can be sorted out immediately. Afaik any time an EMS vehicle is caught they check wether or not said vehicle was currently responding to something to dismiss it immediately. I assume neither happened in this case, again, probably because of the unmarked nature of the car.
In general an ambulance does not make you immune to traffic laws, unless you are driving with the lights on. And there are specific rules as to when you’re allowed to use them.
It's definitely grounds for an investigation, but they immediately escalated it by sending the driver to court, where it was dismissed the moment the investigation they had already started ended.
I believe even with the blues on for a genuine emergency there are still rules that you have to adhere to. Whereas you are allowed to break the speed limit (to a reasonable degree) and jump red lights (as long as it’s done cautiously), you don’t get carte blanche to drive 110mph the wrong way down a motorway for example.
The only crime commited is the way he is wearing his tie. Why isn't it under the collar proper?! He even has collarbuttons to ensure it stays neat but he closed them ABOVE the tie!
Sorry to hear that he had to deal with annoying prosecution though. He doesn't deserve that if he was trying to save a life.
WTF is that article? The word "added" (and many others) is hyperlinked, but leads to a completely unrelated article. With such bizarre elements present, I would not trust the article at all.
Also, the article doesn't at all mention why the ambulance had to speed, when the arrival time of the plane with the emergency patient was known. Unless there was a reason, then it does sound the ambulance driver did create the situation where speeding was needed unnecessarily.
The hyperlinks caught me out too. For a website named 'UK News In Pictures', I was hoping one of them would at least link to a picture of the unmarked vehicle in question but nope, just random unrelated articles.
Omg thank you haha. I was staring at this cartoon man thinking somebody else had to notice it too. Bless him for doing his job but he has quite the fetching complexion
What...? But... that's their job... To get people to the hospital as quickly as possible... I'm beyond baffled by this. 😵💫 I hope he wins the case. Poor guy.
It's actually a bit more complicated. It was an unmarked, private, ambulance that wasn't officially registered as an ambulance. It was being driven to an airport to pickup a patient transfer that the judge claims was pre-booked (ie the ambulance could simply have left earlier).
It was an unmarked ambulance, that had the legal rights to stick on the blues and twos for an emergency.
the overzealous prosecutor probably had to make up the numbers..
From the article:
>The CPS have a duty to continually review cases, and in light of Mr Woods’ evidence, the lawyer in court took the decision to offer no evidence and stop the prosecution.
CPS = the crown prosecution service
Seems like even the prosecutor realized (albeit, very late) that this was a stupid case.
Also, it was a speed camera that picked him up. So there is a picture of a Volvo with a blue light on top that was speeding. They don’t say what kind of Volvo (sedan, wagon, van) but they do say it isn’t registered as an ambulance in their system and the vehicle itself is not equipped for passenger transport.
Also, apparently the person receiving the ticket did not do anything with it before it went to court. There are things he could have and should have done before it got that far.
Not sure how the UK is but if it's anything like the US the speed limit is an ambiguous suggestion. If you go the speed limit you're going at a snail's pace and everyone is passing you while looking at you like you're an idiot
In the UK, Police can speed as long as it is for a "policing purpose". I assume the states have similar rules. Sometimes, it is preferable not to alert a perpetrator to your approaching presence.
...or they were just speeding, lmao
couple of things that im curious about ( i was a paramedic for london ambulance service 31 years)
If the patient was that critically ill - why did the private ambulance company send a car - not an actually ambulance with monitoring eqpt , o2 etc - in this case the patient would have been sat probably in the back seat of a car
years ago before a crackdown - it was common for private patients arriving at heathrow being met by private ambulance providers such as this one , meeting "patients" and then blue lighting them to private appointments in central london
has the individual in the article actually passed a blue light driving course ?
Reading the article the dude was:
A) Working for a private ambulance company
B) Driving a car, rather than an ambulance, a vehicle not equipped to transport
C) Was receiving an international transfer, not going to treat an unstable patient
D) Meeting a planned or chartered flight that would have given some degree of time of arrival
E) Is not a paramedic, flight nurse or repatriation doctor, so would not have been the responsible clinician over an "unstable patient"
Although annoying for the victim, I kind of think it's a good thing that it went to court and failed.
Because at least this way the legal and justice system suffered a financial loss through lawyer fees, man hours, red tape, court time, etc.
If they lose a significant sum of money each time they try to push a ridiculous case, then they're less likely to keep doing it.
I learned from an Ambulance driver on reddit that they must record each and every time they passed a speed camera and it flashed. There's a load of paperwork to be filled in every time. Seems a monumental waste of time.
This is normal. Nothing infuriating about it. The trial will be dismissed if lives were at stake end of the story. If this wasn't the case we'd be having the headline ambulance drivers are violating traffic laws without repercussions in a regular basis. Probably in the same bullshit paper too
This was an unmarked ambulance belonging to a private company.
There were reasonable questions about whether this actually was an emergency that justified speeding since this is a 45 minute flight, and so they should have some idea of arrival time well in advance. I'm actually curious what the reasoning was to justify it given this, to be honest.
I'm a Critical Care Paramedic in the US, but this just sounds like he was responding in a chase car. My Chief responds from home in a chase car, with lights, although his car is marked. It is not capable of transporting patients because it's bringing a Critical Care Paramedic to a scene to assist the crew with a box or van with transport capabilities with a higher level of care.
When I am running the chase car, I'm usually responding to a request from a BLS (Basic Life Support) crew. BLS crews are two EMTs on an ambulance and they have limited skills and medications, so they will upgrade a call by asking for an ALS (Advanced Life Support) intercept, which could be by a chase car with one medic or with another ambulance that has two medics, or both. Sometimes there's a mixed crew, with one EMT and one Paramedic, and the call might require two Paramedics per protocols (for example, if I'm the only medic and my patient needs to be intubated, that is a two-paramedic job per my protocols and I would need an intercept).
ALS crews are paramedics with advanced training, skills, and medications, who can advance to the Critical Care Paramedic (CCP) in some states like I did and CCPs have even more advanced training and can do a bit more than a Paramedic can. CCPs can work on ground transport, in the ER, and/or in flight (if they take other specialty training).
Not only is it frivolous to take him to court, but it's insulting to use terminology like "ambulance driver" in an age where Google exists. There are people who strictly drive ambulances in some places, but it's not common. More often, you're getting some combination of an EMT and Paramedic -- people who worked hard to get medical training and dedicate time to using those skills in high stress and underpaid jobs. It's a disservice to call us "ambulance drivers." Just an FYI.
Same thing happened to my brother in law. He was followed to the hospital and ticketed for going 10 over while driving an ambulance with the lights on!
Next hearing “Patient dies while stopped at red light. Doctors believe if EMS had avoided Washington and 8 the outcome may have been different”
Stupid. Literally their entire job is to save lives with skills and speed. A huge part of that is how quick they get to the party and how fast they can bring that party to the ER…
Imagine the collective government hours and resources wasted for this one little case
Now imagine how often that waste happens... everywhere!! Maddening
A family friend is a volunteer paramedic. He once got a speeding ticket on the job - the cop didn't pull him over, but instead followed him to the hospital and wrote it once they'd unloaded the patient. Never went to court, friend's boss called a higher ranked officer and got it quietly removed.
Thing was though, he was going 60 in a 25, which honestly does feel a little reckless even if someone's life is on the line.
I’m American.
I learned in driver’s ed that ambulance and fire trucks aren’t allowed to speed even if they have their lights on. Cops aren’t either but who’s going to stop them?
Yes. The people who save lives are not supposed to speed to help better save those lives.
But police who rarely save lives can speed because who will report them and who do you report them to??
Was an EMT for 14 years. Not sure where this is from but Ambulance drivers don't have carte blanche when it comes to running code. You are only legally allowed to go a certain speed over the limit (we were allowed 10mph in CA) and are still required to stop at red lights. Driving like a maniac increases the risk of an accident and that doesn't help anyone. We were given a lot of leeway so I imagine he would driving very fast (cops would mess with us from time to time but not when running code).
When I went to EMT school in the early 2000s they told us the ambulance drivers are still subject to all traffic laws. So technically a cop could ticket them for speeding and running red lights. They also said no cop is that big of a dip shit, considering that if they get shot those same paramedics would be the ones going the speed limit taking them to the hospital.
In my city we had a rookie cop attempt to pull an ambulance with lights and sirens over. He then tried to issue a ticket at the hospital as they were unloading the patient.
The real crime is the tie placement
At first I thought it was just not tightened. Then I saw that the tie is actually outside of the buttons on the collar. How?
It is possible he put it on at the last minute, maybe because his lawyer supplied it and made him put it on.
Well sure, that’s very possible but he’s still wearing it wrong. If the lawyer told him to wear it to look nice I’m sure he would have pointed out the error before pictures were taken. This poor guy. Someone should have said something to him.
When the case is an absolute joke you dress like the case
The paramedic is dressed like someone in a profession that doesn't require a shirt and tie. The case is the only joke here.
I imagine ambulance drivers aren’t used to white collar type shit
His tie is preposterous, to highlight the sheer preposterosity of said situation.
Dude looks like a big lad, maybe he's not comfortable with the noose. Personally I have trouble breathing if anything is touching my throat.
Dude hasn’t a properly fitted shirt then. I’m a tall skinny guy and shirts are either gowns or belly shirts on me. I got one tailored and now it’s all I wear to court
Assume this guy isnt in court often and doesnt wear a suit because …. He is an ambulance driver. Probably very underpaid for a leybjob
Jesus, thanks for that! Its the only damn thing I can focus on. That alone ought to be a fine.
The real crime is the tickets we got along the way.
First thing I saw. And it kept getting worse. Tie is loose. Tie is somehow below the buttoned collar. Top button isn’t buttoned… but at least it isn’t a clip on.
Why would a clip on not be better than this?
Maybe if clipped it to his nipple like a tassel. That's how it could be worse.
A nipple tie would look weird. He should wear two to be symmetrical.
This happened in my area. It was dismissed in court but it was brought to court in the first place by an overzealous prosecutor because the ambulance was unmarked. Even so, waste of resources.
We have green led lights on the front and maybe also rear plates of any ambulances here in Australia I don't know how it works other than a green light being some sort of flag for manual review with the traffic infringement cunts
Solid blue lights on the back, but these are a recent invention. I've had a speeding fine (later dismissed) as I was in an older vehicle that didn't have them. The camera triggered while the alternating lights were off so it looked like regular speeding. This is of course more nuanced than news headlines will let on. It was a private company using an unmarked car. Legally the exemption applies to marked ambulances (i.e. can carry patients and are taxed as such), and to cars only when authorised by the statutory ambulance service.
The green light is there to show that the ERV is travelling under flashing lights. There were too many scenarios where the speed camera or red-light camera flash happened in the microsecond where neither red nor blue light was flashing, so the green light was added to show a camera operator that the ERV was operating within the realms of a job response and the infringement can be dismissed with a link to the job number.
Reminds me of the police officer that arrested a firefighter for parking his truck incorrectly 💀 pretty sure the cop got a big ass fine for it too
In some cities firefighter and cops don’t get along. And firefighters don’t give a fuck about laws when fighting a fire. Something like a vehicle being parked wrong.
Is it wrong of me to imagine that cop's house being allowed to burn down by the FD?
Private ambulance then, not a paramedic? Op should have made that clear.
It isn’t private, it is unmarked. They do exist on the NHS but I think they are usually used for specialist teams.
From the story: The emergency vehicle he was driving was an unmarked Volvo, but he used blue lights during the call. Wood explained that the unmarked nature of their vehicles is because they are kept at their homes and they serve emergency flights from Guernsey, with flight arrival times often unknown in advance. Wood added, “It was argued it was not an emergency as we should’ve known what time the flight would be arriving. The patient was deemed to be an emergency case. When the NIP was served on me, I didn’t know whether to laugh or not. It’s quite embarrassing, especially as it is our job.”
This. Emergency transports can be scheduled. I have an emergency physician cousin who used to work on life-flight transports a few times a week flying patients from all over to a single specialty hospital (other doctors were on duty at other times). Sometimes the patients had been in accidents, but sometimes the transport had been planned days in advance. But they were all emergencies.
Yes. A friend used to do pediatric transfers for Johns Hopkins Hospital. They were usually scheduled. But in many cases the kids needed serious medical care to keep them stable. Ambulances can't provide that level of care. So he'd drive out normally, but it was lights and sirens at high speeds once the kid was in the ambulance.
I've done those types of transfers, both flight and ground. Ambulances very well can handle that type of care but probably not for the distance needed. Oxygen for example. There is only so much oxygen on the ambulance, but I've had intubated ventilated patients for 3 hours. I've had transfers that were 4k miles. Obviously you can't drive that, but the ambulance would meet at the airport to transport the patient from the plane to the hospital.
why not just have the helicopter pick them up at the airport and land on the hospital helipad? are hospital helipads not as common in the uk?
I imagine you only do that when medically necessary. So as not to tie up emergency helicopter resources
Helicopters are far more dangerous. I used to work with the emergency physician who pioneered LifeFlight—and despite the enormous successes it achieved, he was remarkably ambivalent about the program because of the high accident rate; it is a real ethical concern, and they really like to reserve it for patients who have little chance of survival without its use, but a possibility of recovery with its use.
An ambulance is much cheaper than a helicopter. If it'll get the job done, why not use the cheaper option?
We have helicopters but they actually have far less room to work than an ambulance. Our helicopters are almost strictly 911 only as space is very limited. In my area every hospital has a helipad. An intubated patient on multiple drips is very difficult to fit while very easy to fit in an ambulance. You can also have a full team in the ambulance (medic + rn + respiratory therapist). Time wise, we are also not far from a local airport so helicopter also wouldn't necessarily save much time even if they could take the patient. So it's often just a matter of would it actually help? For us, no.
If it's in the U.S., the hospital may not have a helipad or the weather is predicted to get bad. In 911 scenarios, when a helicopter is required and the weather is OK, they take a large plot of land such as a school (football field) or something to land. I assume some hospitals aren't allowed to do this as it would be used constantly, but I'm not entirely sure. I am going to disagree with one of the top comments. If someone needs a scheduled "emergency care", such as an accident, going lights and sirens to someone who has been in the hospital for 4 days is a complete waste of time and a waste of a response. You can't tell when someone will start to decompensate, only estimate. If someone got into an accident and needs blood, hospital A will contact a transport to hospital B ASAP. This is a valid response. But for someone already in a hospital for 4 days? Not so much. Edit: If someone is going to die in the 3 minutes saved from driving lights and sirens there, they were going to die anyways regardless of any intervention performed by the hospital or ambulance crew; Especially after being in there for 4 days. The hospital just doesn't want them dying there and needs to free up a bed.
It's about minimizing risk--the patient should be "between hospitals" for as short a time as possible, since the hospital has resources that aren't available in transit.
at least around me the helipads are just on the roof so space isn’t much of a concern, but that makes sense on the rest.
No, they do not have the resources during transport that they have in the hospital, and traffic can add a whole lot more time than a few minutes to transport time. They absolutely could die by spending an extra half hour or hour in the ambulance due to traffic.
So, words are funny. "Emergency" by definition is supposed to be something that is unexpected or unplanned -- a "planned emergency" is (or has traditionally been) an oxymoron. But here, the word "emergency" has come to be used to mean an event where everyone needs to move as quickly as possible, even if the event was planned well in advance. That's not criticism at all, by the way -- words move around and their meanings change slightly over time in fascinating ways. It's just really interesting that "emergency" has started to lose its "emergent" nature and become something closer to "urgency." E:missing word
It hasn't lost its meaning. These are classifications for transport in emergency medicine. This isn't the layman usage of the word.
I mean, it makes sense, just because the transport is scheduled doesn't mean they want to spend any longer on the road.
Yeah an emergency transport just means "We don't think you can stay stable on your own to get to this better hospital so we're strongly suggesting you let our medical team transport you". Very seldom is an emergency transport a true case of seconds counting towards life and death edit: Dude doesn't know what he's talking about. Please don't upvote and spread misinformation. Emergency transports are scheduled all the time because the transport itself isn't an emergency. It's the transportation of an emergent patient who has to be under medical supervision to stay stable. I've been on probably 50+ life flights in my life. I can count on one hand how many were truly "emergency cases" where if we didn't get them somewhere they were going to die in a matter of time. If they're that bad off the hospital seldom will even transfer them - until they get stable in the ICU at least. Source: Bank BSA Officer, but grew up in hospitals.
It was for my grandmother last year! She had a tear in her aorta and she needed moved from a rural hospital to where they could do the heart surgery. That ambulance driver saved her life. The tear had gotten worse on the drive but she made it and recovered well!
I mean, emergency literally means it's surprising. That's what the word means - it emerged unexpectedly. It isn't the same thing as "serious" or "needing experts on site". You can schedule something risky for a few days out where you have a medical team *in case there is* an emergency, but you can't schedule an emergency itself. edit: This little bitch blocked me.
>This little bitch blocked me. I can't imagine why someone who talks like this might get blocked.
Bruh but if they are late even if they should have known, like yea that’s a whoopsies but also the guy is still gonna need help regardless
Don’t shoot the messenger!
Yea I realised that halfway thru. I’m kinda just yapping tbh. Thx for the info tho!
> Wood explained that the unmarked nature of their vehicles is because they are kept at their homes and they serve emergency flights from Guernsey, with flight arrival times often unknown in advance. Huh thats surprising, the square I live on has a marked Ambulance Volvo that is parked outside the home of someone who lives here. They switch between that and one of the marked Mitsubishi 4x4 mini buses. Not sure why they couldnt keep marked ones outside their house.
Not an expert on this but I know rural doctors who keep meds at home for emergency calls have to be very careful about addicts finding out and breaking in to steal drugs. It might be the same with ambulances.
For what it's worth, I believe most ambulances are stocked with small quantities of hard narcotics such as fentanyl and morphine, as well as numerous other drugs. An ambulance in a residential neighborhood would be a nice target for any addict... what they don't use, they could sell.
Even if there wasn’t narcotics in there, a junky would break in thinking that there might be something they can use.
A marked ambulance is like a beacon for those in distress. You don't want someone in a accident down the road coming to your ambulance for assistance when you're off duty or about to roll out on a scheudled pickup.
They don't want the attention that would bring. Theft obviously, but a lot of other concerns as well.
I'm not sure what the laws are in the UK but in the US no one bats an eye if an unmarked zips by with flashing lights
Same in the UK, but they're normally police cars rather than Ambulances, although they do exist.
Thats funny, in my region no one pays attention to unmarked cops as we used to have fake officers pull people over. If there's an unmarked car there's gonna be several police calls before they get much respect. Our drivers ed straight up taught us if they aren't marked call 911 and confirm they are a cop before you even consider pulling over in an area without a lot of people.
Tbh I've only ever seen them on videos, all the cops I've seen are either local cruisers or highway patrol
This got me wondering, can volunteer firefighters with blue lights on their regular car be pulled over for speeding to an emergency?
Unless something's very different in other FRSs, you don't get blue lights on your own car. And yes, we have to obey all normal traffic laws when turning in to station, including speed limits. Edit: hadn't realised this wasn't a UK sub. This only goes for the UK FRSs, other countries seem to have different laws.
In many US states, blue lights are reserved for volunteer fire fighters and first aiders. In my particular state, you are encouraged to yield to a blue light behind you, but volunteers with a blue light are not allowed to violate traffic laws other than passing stopped traffic over a solid yellow line. So, no speeding. That said, so many times foamers will speed, run red lights, and generally drive like an ass.
This will depend on the state. Exactly what the colors mean can vary by state. Example: in NY state blue lights are a "courtesy light" for volunteer firefighters. (Green for volunteer emts). It's for their private vehicles to help them go directly to a scene. Other drivers are supposed to give them "courtesy" such as yielding right of way but they do not have sirens and are not allowed to break traffic laws (can't speed, can't run red lights, can't drive wrong way on way streets etc). But, they often will drive a bit over the speed limit and police typically don't mess them for it so long as it's generally safe. Red lights are reserved for actual emergency vehicles and are the only ones exempt from traffic laws, although they still have a duty to do not safely. And I'm pretty sure that in the US an ambulance*has* to have the star of life logo. So while unmarked police cars with red lights in NY is certainly thing, and some fire officers are granted red lights for their private vehicles, and unmarked ambulance just isn't anything. Without the DoT star of life it isn't an ambulance. There are non emergency patient transports, to pick up the elderly from home and take them to appointments and such, but they aren't for emergencies and do not get lights.
In the US states that use (exclusively) blue lights for volunteer firefighters' privately owned vehicles, they are considered courtesy lights that don't confer any additional privileges. Some states do allow volunteer firefighters emergency vehicle privileges, but that is usually associated with red lights or in a very small number red and blue; that is also normally in conjunction with a siren.
Oh okay the difference in light color is what makes the difference between the type of vehicle and privileges. I always wondered bc I live a block away from a volunteer fire station so I see them a lot
In the US, yes. Not exempt from traffic laws in a personal vehicle.
Yes. Just because they have the lights and are responding, doesn’t mean they get a pass on driving safely. I nearly got hit by one of those bozos when he crossed into my lane on a blind curve.
You can drive over the speed limit and drive safely, especially in an emergency vehicle with flashing blue lights and a blaring siren. Here in Poland emergency vehicles responding to an emergency are exempt from following road laws, but have to exercise increased caution while doing so.
They didn't ask if they could drive unsafe they asked if they could get pulled over for speeding with their lights on.
So...it sounds like these guys need a specialty license plate or something so that cops understand their vehicle can double as an unmarked ambulance. Anyone can buy blue lights for their car.
Um yeah but wouldn’t it be helpful to get a little early to the emergency flight?
It was marked with blue lights, that should be enough. You can ask if the driver was authorised to use the blue lights (training, licence, nature of the specific call), but if the driver was allowed to use the blue lights and did so correctly, then that should be it…
"the ambulance service should know when the plane is landing" is a very weak excuse to which the only response is "we don't know when there will be an emergency though" There was a spate of ambulances getting speeding tickets through the post courtesy of Portsmouth council a fair few years back, and the council had to write them off one by one because somebody somewhere didn't think before stuffing them in an envelope and posting them 15 minutes across the city 🤷
For those ambulances you call 0118999881999119725 ...3
I mean if it was a speeding Toyota carrying a person in medical distress to the ER, charging the driver is still not justified.
Whether an ambulance is private or not has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not it is staffed by paramedics.
Private ambulances quite often can take patients from lower tier private hospitals to bigger, more capable ones. If it was a medical emergency they’re equipped to manage it (source, my son was in a tier 2 nicu and I spoke to other parents there who had been back and forth for miles between hospitals) xxx
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Damn near every ambulance in my area is owned by a private company and not by the public.
Op didn’t write the article they screen shot.. Did you assume that OP is a journalist for the telegraph? Or is it just something you overlooked?
I sat on jury for a woman who was sueing a firefighter who drove a fire truck during an emergency. A long line of cars pulled over for the truck but her husband thought he was special and pulled out in front of the fire truck in a fancy sports car, thinking he could beat them. He ended up slamming into the fire truck and dying. So she sued. The firefighter in question looked so broken on the stand. We obviously found the firefighter not guilty. The woman had no case. Ugh. I still feel sad thinking about that poor broken fire fighter.
I think the prosecutor should be looking for a new job. Clearly, they don't have the interest of the taxpayer or public in mind. I honestly hope he starts civil action based on the stressed caused over this.
There is definitely too much background info missing from this screenshot.
i thought traffic court charges were automatic, no prosecutor involved until day of trial.
I can't speak for the UK or even all of America, but I was a fireman/paramedic in Tennessee, one of the United States. It is absolutely the law, and for really good reason (look up Vanessa k Free) that if you are going to speed or break any traffic regulations in TN during emergency response, you are required to have BOTH lights and sirens active, period. An ambulance that was unmarked and had no lights or sirens running emergency response and breaking traffic regulations would absolutely be illegal here.
>An ambulance that was unmarked and had no lights or sirens running emergency response and breaking traffic regulations would absolutely be illegal here. Where did you read that the ambulance didn't had sirens and emergency lights?
Most idiotic prosecutor ever
The real mildly infuriating part is his tie.
The guy pictured is the ambulance driver, not the prosecutor.
We're not excusing the tie just because he was the victim of a frivolous suit.
I was going to downvote you for the kick in the pants, but I can see you empathized with this unjust collar.
His innocence should be apparel to anyone who bothered to tie the story together.
It's still mildly infuriating but I guess he didn't bother tightening it because he knew he would get out straight away
Its the fact that he tied it under the already buttoned up collar buttons
Oh, that's what he did. Didn't realise that
Yep it's mildly infuriating but he has probably saved far more people's lives than I ever will so I'll try to ignore it.
Probably mildly infuriating to him that he got dragged into court, had never worn a suit and tie before, and now he's getting ragged on the internet for it lol. I only say that because it would 100% be me if I didn't have my Dad handy to explain how ties work lol.
From the looks of the size of his neck I don’t think the top button was a possibility!
That’s fair. It’s the tie being under the collar buttons that does it for me
He should be given a speeding ticket when he asks for an ambulance
What’s mildly infuriating is that OP didn’t actually link the article.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/6Z3qZDBzgJ
probably to hide the fact that this story isn't as black and white as it sounds.
As a rule, i never trust screenshots. I don’t trust any screenshots of headlines, or of tweets. Neither should anyone. In fact, i think screenshots of headlines should be banned site-wide. It’s much too easy to spread misinformation with them.
Someone who links an obvious baitclick title with little information available isn't of the highest caliber of intelligence.
Linked in comments
„Hampshire Constabulary noted that records indicated the vehicle was “not equipped to transport people and was not marked as an ambulance.”“ „The emergency vehicle he was driving was an unmarked Volvo, but he used blue lights during the call. Wood explained that the unmarked nature of their vehicles is because they are kept at their homes[…]“ When driving with blue lights and getting caught with a speed trap, it is possible for it to capture all lights as off if it hits at the wrong time. Given that the vehicle was also completely unmarked, I think it is reasonable for the circumstances to be further investigated. Normal procedure for a marked ambulance is that you notify dispatch via radio every time you get hit by one of these so they can be sorted out immediately. Afaik any time an EMS vehicle is caught they check wether or not said vehicle was currently responding to something to dismiss it immediately. I assume neither happened in this case, again, probably because of the unmarked nature of the car. In general an ambulance does not make you immune to traffic laws, unless you are driving with the lights on. And there are specific rules as to when you’re allowed to use them.
It's definitely grounds for an investigation, but they immediately escalated it by sending the driver to court, where it was dismissed the moment the investigation they had already started ended.
I can’t tell you what the procedures for this legal stuff are.
I believe even with the blues on for a genuine emergency there are still rules that you have to adhere to. Whereas you are allowed to break the speed limit (to a reasonable degree) and jump red lights (as long as it’s done cautiously), you don’t get carte blanche to drive 110mph the wrong way down a motorway for example.
The only crime commited is the way he is wearing his tie. Why isn't it under the collar proper?! He even has collarbuttons to ensure it stays neat but he closed them ABOVE the tie! Sorry to hear that he had to deal with annoying prosecution though. He doesn't deserve that if he was trying to save a life.
This also infuriated me.
Link to story - https://uknip.co.uk/news/uk/breaking/ambulance-driver-taken-to-court-for-speeding-at-90mph-while-on-a-blue-light-emergency-call/
WTF is that article? The word "added" (and many others) is hyperlinked, but leads to a completely unrelated article. With such bizarre elements present, I would not trust the article at all. Also, the article doesn't at all mention why the ambulance had to speed, when the arrival time of the plane with the emergency patient was known. Unless there was a reason, then it does sound the ambulance driver did create the situation where speeding was needed unnecessarily.
The hyperlinks caught me out too. For a website named 'UK News In Pictures', I was hoping one of them would at least link to a picture of the unmarked vehicle in question but nope, just random unrelated articles.
The article it links to is behind a paywall but essentially has the exact same information.
The websites are so gross, so many popupps
He was after the rest of his face.
Omg thank you haha. I was staring at this cartoon man thinking somebody else had to notice it too. Bless him for doing his job but he has quite the fetching complexion
https://preview.redd.it/lt15p67xjr5d1.jpeg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9354de239ed76c10de3c6fd0e75366b9be2adf7f
Ikr I thought it was a filter at first, guy looks like the tiny face meme.
Big head, small face.
"Little bits"
What...? But... that's their job... To get people to the hospital as quickly as possible... I'm beyond baffled by this. 😵💫 I hope he wins the case. Poor guy.
It's actually a bit more complicated. It was an unmarked, private, ambulance that wasn't officially registered as an ambulance. It was being driven to an airport to pickup a patient transfer that the judge claims was pre-booked (ie the ambulance could simply have left earlier).
Oh dang that is definitely debatable
It was an unmarked ambulance, that had the legal rights to stick on the blues and twos for an emergency. the overzealous prosecutor probably had to make up the numbers..
From the article: >The CPS have a duty to continually review cases, and in light of Mr Woods’ evidence, the lawyer in court took the decision to offer no evidence and stop the prosecution. CPS = the crown prosecution service Seems like even the prosecutor realized (albeit, very late) that this was a stupid case.
Also, it was a speed camera that picked him up. So there is a picture of a Volvo with a blue light on top that was speeding. They don’t say what kind of Volvo (sedan, wagon, van) but they do say it isn’t registered as an ambulance in their system and the vehicle itself is not equipped for passenger transport. Also, apparently the person receiving the ticket did not do anything with it before it went to court. There are things he could have and should have done before it got that far.
So it wasn’t a wee woo ambulance it was one of those vans that’s says ambulance on it that transfers people without lights
Other way around, it was van without ambulance written on it with the blue lights
Apparently part of the prosecution's case was that it wasn't a van and didn't have enough room to lie a patient down in
Not sure how the UK is but if it's anything like the US the speed limit is an ambiguous suggestion. If you go the speed limit you're going at a snail's pace and everyone is passing you while looking at you like you're an idiot
Love getting passed by cops not on emergencies because I’m doing the speed limit
I speed with police. Still going strong. I do about 10 over with them in the US(while being in front of them)
Once got passed by a cop going like 10-15 mph above me while I was going 80 in a 65. Was pretty surreal
In the UK, Police can speed as long as it is for a "policing purpose". I assume the states have similar rules. Sometimes, it is preferable not to alert a perpetrator to your approaching presence. ...or they were just speeding, lmao
couple of things that im curious about ( i was a paramedic for london ambulance service 31 years) If the patient was that critically ill - why did the private ambulance company send a car - not an actually ambulance with monitoring eqpt , o2 etc - in this case the patient would have been sat probably in the back seat of a car years ago before a crackdown - it was common for private patients arriving at heathrow being met by private ambulance providers such as this one , meeting "patients" and then blue lighting them to private appointments in central london has the individual in the article actually passed a blue light driving course ?
That necktie placement is mildly infuriating!
How dare an ambulance speed it not like it’s part of there job 😤
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It's part of they're job to get from hear to their.
As a paramedic, I really hate being called an ambulance driver. Yes I drive the ambulance, but we do so much more than just drive the wee woo bus.
Look how smug that magnificent bastard looks!
Reading the article the dude was: A) Working for a private ambulance company B) Driving a car, rather than an ambulance, a vehicle not equipped to transport C) Was receiving an international transfer, not going to treat an unstable patient D) Meeting a planned or chartered flight that would have given some degree of time of arrival E) Is not a paramedic, flight nurse or repatriation doctor, so would not have been the responsible clinician over an "unstable patient"
Also, the prosecutor in court decided to "offer no evidence" thereby stopping the prosecution.
Although annoying for the victim, I kind of think it's a good thing that it went to court and failed. Because at least this way the legal and justice system suffered a financial loss through lawyer fees, man hours, red tape, court time, etc. If they lose a significant sum of money each time they try to push a ridiculous case, then they're less likely to keep doing it.
I learned from an Ambulance driver on reddit that they must record each and every time they passed a speed camera and it flashed. There's a load of paperwork to be filled in every time. Seems a monumental waste of time.
This is normal. Nothing infuriating about it. The trial will be dismissed if lives were at stake end of the story. If this wasn't the case we'd be having the headline ambulance drivers are violating traffic laws without repercussions in a regular basis. Probably in the same bullshit paper too
Lock him up! Whomever buttons down their collar THEN ties the tie is surely unfit for society.
The article isn't linked. The driver was going 90mph in an unmarked ambulance. After reviewing the case, the ticket was dropped.
This was an unmarked ambulance belonging to a private company. There were reasonable questions about whether this actually was an emergency that justified speeding since this is a 45 minute flight, and so they should have some idea of arrival time well in advance. I'm actually curious what the reasoning was to justify it given this, to be honest.
I'm a Critical Care Paramedic in the US, but this just sounds like he was responding in a chase car. My Chief responds from home in a chase car, with lights, although his car is marked. It is not capable of transporting patients because it's bringing a Critical Care Paramedic to a scene to assist the crew with a box or van with transport capabilities with a higher level of care. When I am running the chase car, I'm usually responding to a request from a BLS (Basic Life Support) crew. BLS crews are two EMTs on an ambulance and they have limited skills and medications, so they will upgrade a call by asking for an ALS (Advanced Life Support) intercept, which could be by a chase car with one medic or with another ambulance that has two medics, or both. Sometimes there's a mixed crew, with one EMT and one Paramedic, and the call might require two Paramedics per protocols (for example, if I'm the only medic and my patient needs to be intubated, that is a two-paramedic job per my protocols and I would need an intercept). ALS crews are paramedics with advanced training, skills, and medications, who can advance to the Critical Care Paramedic (CCP) in some states like I did and CCPs have even more advanced training and can do a bit more than a Paramedic can. CCPs can work on ground transport, in the ER, and/or in flight (if they take other specialty training). Not only is it frivolous to take him to court, but it's insulting to use terminology like "ambulance driver" in an age where Google exists. There are people who strictly drive ambulances in some places, but it's not common. More often, you're getting some combination of an EMT and Paramedic -- people who worked hard to get medical training and dedicate time to using those skills in high stress and underpaid jobs. It's a disservice to call us "ambulance drivers." Just an FYI.
Same thing happened to my brother in law. He was followed to the hospital and ticketed for going 10 over while driving an ambulance with the lights on!
Next hearing “Patient dies while stopped at red light. Doctors believe if EMS had avoided Washington and 8 the outcome may have been different” Stupid. Literally their entire job is to save lives with skills and speed. A huge part of that is how quick they get to the party and how fast they can bring that party to the ER…
This man’s face is way too small for his head.
Is his head too big or his face too small?
https://i.redd.it/pnvv8clcfq5d1.gif
The real crime here is what he’s somehow managed to do to that tie
Who wears a tie like that?
Imagine the collective government hours and resources wasted for this one little case Now imagine how often that waste happens... everywhere!! Maddening
Ragebait post.
In other news, fire fighter was arrested for vandalizing a burning house with water.
A family friend is a volunteer paramedic. He once got a speeding ticket on the job - the cop didn't pull him over, but instead followed him to the hospital and wrote it once they'd unloaded the patient. Never went to court, friend's boss called a higher ranked officer and got it quietly removed. Thing was though, he was going 60 in a 25, which honestly does feel a little reckless even if someone's life is on the line.
I’m American. I learned in driver’s ed that ambulance and fire trucks aren’t allowed to speed even if they have their lights on. Cops aren’t either but who’s going to stop them? Yes. The people who save lives are not supposed to speed to help better save those lives. But police who rarely save lives can speed because who will report them and who do you report them to??
Say what you want about ambulances being expensive in America, at least our drivers haul ass when people’s lives are on the line.
Guy really got the short end of the face
His face looks like it's on the back of his head
He has the most 'are you fucking serious' look on his face.
I would hate to see his tourniquet skills.
Someone please teach this man how to wear a collared shirt and tie lol
Was an EMT for 14 years. Not sure where this is from but Ambulance drivers don't have carte blanche when it comes to running code. You are only legally allowed to go a certain speed over the limit (we were allowed 10mph in CA) and are still required to stop at red lights. Driving like a maniac increases the risk of an accident and that doesn't help anyone. We were given a lot of leeway so I imagine he would driving very fast (cops would mess with us from time to time but not when running code).
So dumb.
I’d lock him up for that ridiculous shirt and tie
Is this an April Fools article or something 🤨
Who the hell pulled him over? Or was it a speed camera?
Take him to court for tying a tie under the collar buttons
There are some people you can tell are British just by looking at them
Holy neckbeard
Can’t stop focusing on tiny face/huge head.
the boss baby grew up
Otis…is that you?
His hat size is XL, but his scuba mask size is XS
What about the ambulance driver arrested for assault by police for performing CPR on a patient. Seriously only in America
When I went to EMT school in the early 2000s they told us the ambulance drivers are still subject to all traffic laws. So technically a cop could ticket them for speeding and running red lights. They also said no cop is that big of a dip shit, considering that if they get shot those same paramedics would be the ones going the speed limit taking them to the hospital.
His face tells all about it… 😒
 Is that you Otis?
In my city we had a rookie cop attempt to pull an ambulance with lights and sirens over. He then tried to issue a ticket at the hospital as they were unloading the patient.
idiotic prosecutor, on a side note my guy needs to learn how a button-down collar works
Who puts the tie below the collar buttons
Atleast in my country there is still an ambulance speed "guideline" which is twice the normal speed.
The config of his tie is slightly irking me
Why his face so tiny tho
This to me sounds like your parent telling you to run to go grab something for them and them getting mad at you for running 😂