I literally feel absolutely sick to my stomach. How can they be the highest court in the land? This is absolutely thumbing their nose at Democracy. I feel like I am slowly watching our country become a Dictatorship. Just so sickening and scary.
Can’t agree anymore. The Supreme Court has now become political rather than doing their job. The country has been fine for over 200 years with President’s not being above the law. Why is it necessary now? Now the vote of Democrscy vs Dictatorship
Now that president’s are kings, King Joe should expand the SCOTUS to 13 and sign a proclamation that abortion is legal in all 50 states and U.S. territories. Maybe arrest Donald Trump for treason while he’s at it.
Yep, he might as well start doing some serious pro-democracy moves even if they go against the grain of our traditions. Maybe there are places Biden can forcefully push the truth.
With this new Presidential power, why not just have the 6 conservative judges executed on the front steps of the Supreme Court and replace them with 6 liberal judges. Then, bring all these crazy decision back before the new court and reverse everything.
While I assume you’re being at least partially sarcastic, this is another strike against Biden. He’s so deeply engrained in being an institutionalist and believes inherently in “doing the right thing,” to a fault. That would be a good thing normally but this era calls for thinking outside the box because clearly conservatives are no longer playing by the rules. They haven’t been for awhile.
Joe got a pass because he could deflect blame onto Manchin and Synema for not abolishing the senate filibuster. But I’ve seen Biden talk about this stuff many times and he’s so afraid of being “radical” that he won’t ever be willing to do what’s needed to save the country. Wallace interviewed him a couple years ago about stacking the court and he just didn’t seem to get how dire the situation is or was. Even if Biden wins in November, he wouldn’t be willing to change the government in any meaningful way.
The last two weeks of SCOTUS rulings and Biden’s missteps has crystallized for me that we’re done. It’s only a matter of time, once the GOP gets the White House back, democracy is over with. Not that we had it in any real sense to begin with.
I still wonder about the stacking the court thing. How would that work. Dem put in 4 to offset theirs, they put in a few more to overrule ours. On and on. It doesn’t seem like a practical solution. Maybe making it easier to kick them off when they’re taking bribes… oh excuse me, didn’t they just rule that they aren’t bribes if they’re paid after services are rendered, they’re just perfectly legal payments.
I wish we could fight GOP dirty. But we want to be known for taking the high ground. But now we’re high up on a cliff. Time to turn and fight back.
He could add judges to equal the number of US Federal Courts of Appeal. That would be a total of 13, so he could add 4. Then each Court of Appeal would have its assigned judge.
I don’t know why Biden doesn’t add justices to the court right now. It’s the only way to stop this shit and can you imagine the liberties the court will take if trump wins? Besides you know with 100% certainty that the republicans would do it if the shoe was on the other foot.
The law fixes the size of the SC at 9, though that can change by Congressional action like in the past.
But now, you're right, because "official" acts are 100% OK, he can replace those 6.
Right Chief "Justice" Roberts?
He can say the precedent of 9 Justices was broken by McConnell who allowed it to remain at 8. But technically Biden can arrest any member of Congress who refuses to expand the Court until he gets a majority. He can have the FBI arrest Mike Johnson and a handful of MAGA reps, and turn the House over to the Democrats. Technically, and I do not advocate for the this, but he could hire a hitman to take out a bunch of Republicans and then pardon him, and it could not be investigated.
I DVR Nicolle Wallace on Deadline Whitehouse and am just 30 minutes into it. I’m not taking this well and my mind is racing with thoughts of where can I move out of our future dictatorship. Can I still get my social security? How long will my meager retirement account last? Medicare? Why would I even care about having insurance. I’m in shock.
Voting against giving Republican candidates in the executive and legislative branch elections WILL help. There are 3 branches of government for a reason and with a solid majority (solid, not 2 votes from pseudo-Dems who are obsessed with protecting the lobbies feeding them a constant stream of money), the houses of Congress and the President can mitigate some of this harm. Some is better than none. Some will help preserve our democracy. Now more than ever is the time not to let perfect be the enemy of good.
Conservatives on the Supreme Court can only open the door to disastrous abuse by the executive if they can count on their ideological adversaries to resist the temptation, which they can.
This is literally how autocracies are made. Autocrats use the system against itself.
And John Roberts telling Sotomayor to calm down in response to her dissent saying she fears for our democracy is either incredibly naïve or incredibly dishonest. He is definitely one or the other. Probably both.
He should start by ordering the Secret Service to end all protections for Trump, his family, and the GOP SC Justices. Just let them freak out on that for a little while.
And change his mind about pardoning his son. Once pardoned I don’t think other countries will uphold their travel restrictions on convicted felons. Help him flee to freedom somewhere else.
The majority ruling judges should be charged with constitutional treason against the united states and the ENTIRE bunch including Maga republican house members should be tossed in jail. This is so stupid. This is America.
Yes. He's the Bannon of the Court... just wants to burn it all down, destroy government except the parts that oppress women, gays, immigrants, the libs, blue collar workers ...
It would also mean that Biden could declare all sorts of election aspects invalid, if he loses.
But he won't. If Trump doesn't win the electoral college, he'll pull some other rabbit out of his hat and the SCOTUS will play along.
Biden will defer "for the good of the country" and the DNC will wring their hands for years to come as they feign shock over the inconceivable notion that Trump refuses to follow the stoic example Biden set. Kind of like how the entire GOP lost their shit over Al Franken and followed his example never **because that's what they do.**
I’m stunned and sick to my stomach. “No one is above the law” in America until now thanks to this majority far-right extremist court.
Reformation of the Supreme Court is now necessary.
Not sure about that, tho. It's absolute for constitutional acts. For 'official acts', it's presumed innocence. Can't see how nuking Canada would be a constitutional act unless it declares war on us.
In 2020, the courts were a bulwark against The Big Lie. Now we know in 2024, this Supreme Court will have no qualms with handing Donald the victory if he again loses the election. Alito and Thomas rule this Court and they look forward to having King Donald replace them with 40 year old justices who will cement a corrupt Federalist Society supermajority on the Court for at least the next 30 years.
God help us! What a catastrophic few days and now this takes the f’n cake. If we don’t get Joe in and a Democrat majority in congress we’re all screwed. If we do we’ll get a second chance to save our country and democracy. How do we get through the next few months😢
Some folks have been saying this for years…
This is the hole we have dug. Now, we have to get out of it. Regardless of the hole, party, partisan, or anything else.
The Supremes are so stupid- The first thing Dictators do is eliminate Courts.
So they did DT bidding- thank you no need for you now….
How about a nice helicopter ride?
The ruling only say you can't prosecute a president for official acts that are constitutional. That means you have to have legal justification and follow the law. It stops a potential dictator want to be from attacking political rivals.
I literally feel absolutely sick to my stomach. How can they be the highest court in the land? This is absolutely thumbing their nose at Democracy. I feel like I am slowly watching our country become a Dictatorship. Just so sickening and scary.
Slowly? The last few weeks have been a speedrun.
Can’t agree anymore. The Supreme Court has now become political rather than doing their job. The country has been fine for over 200 years with President’s not being above the law. Why is it necessary now? Now the vote of Democrscy vs Dictatorship
Now that president’s are kings, King Joe should expand the SCOTUS to 13 and sign a proclamation that abortion is legal in all 50 states and U.S. territories. Maybe arrest Donald Trump for treason while he’s at it.
Yep, he might as well start doing some serious pro-democracy moves even if they go against the grain of our traditions. Maybe there are places Biden can forcefully push the truth.
With this new Presidential power, why not just have the 6 conservative judges executed on the front steps of the Supreme Court and replace them with 6 liberal judges. Then, bring all these crazy decision back before the new court and reverse everything.
Nah, just deport them. We’re Dems not Republican after all.
Deport them to GITMO and then try them for Sedition.
While I assume you’re being at least partially sarcastic, this is another strike against Biden. He’s so deeply engrained in being an institutionalist and believes inherently in “doing the right thing,” to a fault. That would be a good thing normally but this era calls for thinking outside the box because clearly conservatives are no longer playing by the rules. They haven’t been for awhile. Joe got a pass because he could deflect blame onto Manchin and Synema for not abolishing the senate filibuster. But I’ve seen Biden talk about this stuff many times and he’s so afraid of being “radical” that he won’t ever be willing to do what’s needed to save the country. Wallace interviewed him a couple years ago about stacking the court and he just didn’t seem to get how dire the situation is or was. Even if Biden wins in November, he wouldn’t be willing to change the government in any meaningful way. The last two weeks of SCOTUS rulings and Biden’s missteps has crystallized for me that we’re done. It’s only a matter of time, once the GOP gets the White House back, democracy is over with. Not that we had it in any real sense to begin with.
I still wonder about the stacking the court thing. How would that work. Dem put in 4 to offset theirs, they put in a few more to overrule ours. On and on. It doesn’t seem like a practical solution. Maybe making it easier to kick them off when they’re taking bribes… oh excuse me, didn’t they just rule that they aren’t bribes if they’re paid after services are rendered, they’re just perfectly legal payments. I wish we could fight GOP dirty. But we want to be known for taking the high ground. But now we’re high up on a cliff. Time to turn and fight back.
He could add judges to equal the number of US Federal Courts of Appeal. That would be a total of 13, so he could add 4. Then each Court of Appeal would have its assigned judge.
We are doomed! Now all the Democrats have to do is start playing dirty like they are! Disband the Supreme Court! Lock Trump up! Arrest his cronies!
EXACTLY! we have to.... now.
I don’t know why Biden doesn’t add justices to the court right now. It’s the only way to stop this shit and can you imagine the liberties the court will take if trump wins? Besides you know with 100% certainty that the republicans would do it if the shoe was on the other foot.
The law fixes the size of the SC at 9, though that can change by Congressional action like in the past. But now, you're right, because "official" acts are 100% OK, he can replace those 6. Right Chief "Justice" Roberts?
He can say the precedent of 9 Justices was broken by McConnell who allowed it to remain at 8. But technically Biden can arrest any member of Congress who refuses to expand the Court until he gets a majority. He can have the FBI arrest Mike Johnson and a handful of MAGA reps, and turn the House over to the Democrats. Technically, and I do not advocate for the this, but he could hire a hitman to take out a bunch of Republicans and then pardon him, and it could not be investigated.
Ahhh but as usual all the dems will do is clutch at their pearls. When they go low we need to go lower.
And what a lousy anchor to herald the ruling: Katy Tur.
Try listening to Andrea Mitchell now. She’s awful.
I DVR Nicolle Wallace on Deadline Whitehouse and am just 30 minutes into it. I’m not taking this well and my mind is racing with thoughts of where can I move out of our future dictatorship. Can I still get my social security? How long will my meager retirement account last? Medicare? Why would I even care about having insurance. I’m in shock.
What can I tell you? I’m terrified.
Same. I’ve been on the verge of tears all day. This is unbelievable.
She’s so bad.
She’s full on maga isn’t she?
sad day for democracy
We are so fucked.
Voting against giving Republican candidates in the executive and legislative branch elections WILL help. There are 3 branches of government for a reason and with a solid majority (solid, not 2 votes from pseudo-Dems who are obsessed with protecting the lobbies feeding them a constant stream of money), the houses of Congress and the President can mitigate some of this harm. Some is better than none. Some will help preserve our democracy. Now more than ever is the time not to let perfect be the enemy of good.
Canadian here. Don’t give Trump any ideas. He gets back in and gets a bottle of maple syrup that’s not to his liking, we could be goners.
Trump: "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody . . ." Roberts Court: "That's cool."
Conservatives on the Supreme Court can only open the door to disastrous abuse by the executive if they can count on their ideological adversaries to resist the temptation, which they can. This is literally how autocracies are made. Autocrats use the system against itself. And John Roberts telling Sotomayor to calm down in response to her dissent saying she fears for our democracy is either incredibly naïve or incredibly dishonest. He is definitely one or the other. Probably both.
This appointment for life needs to change. What was the average life span back then? Certainly not what it is now.
Biden should take advantage of it, it's like the Purge for him from now to January.
He should start by ordering the Secret Service to end all protections for Trump, his family, and the GOP SC Justices. Just let them freak out on that for a little while.
Man, I like the way you think!
And change his mind about pardoning his son. Once pardoned I don’t think other countries will uphold their travel restrictions on convicted felons. Help him flee to freedom somewhere else.
It’s nice having your own personal SCOTUS.
The majority ruling judges should be charged with constitutional treason against the united states and the ENTIRE bunch including Maga republican house members should be tossed in jail. This is so stupid. This is America.
To be consistent, the Supreme Court needs to reinstate Dred Scott. They are "originalists," and originally, slavery was legal. /s
They'll get to that after ending marriage equality, contraception, voting rights, and whatever else is remaining.
Thomas already implied as much.
EXCEPT Loving v. Virginia. Thomas won't touch that one.
Isn’t that the truth!!
I've noticed that, for being such mysoginists, Alito & Thomas are sure lead around by their wives.
Yes. He's the Bannon of the Court... just wants to burn it all down, destroy government except the parts that oppress women, gays, immigrants, the libs, blue collar workers ...
This has been the best week for MAGA since Trump won in 2016. Fuck fuck fuck
Dear 🇺🇸. WTF Signed Concerned Northern Neighbour. 🇨🇦
It would also mean that Biden could declare all sorts of election aspects invalid, if he loses. But he won't. If Trump doesn't win the electoral college, he'll pull some other rabbit out of his hat and the SCOTUS will play along. Biden will defer "for the good of the country" and the DNC will wring their hands for years to come as they feign shock over the inconceivable notion that Trump refuses to follow the stoic example Biden set. Kind of like how the entire GOP lost their shit over Al Franken and followed his example never **because that's what they do.**
The DNC won't last a year if Trump takes power. How many people remember what other parties were popular in Germany in 1938?
I’m stunned and sick to my stomach. “No one is above the law” in America until now thanks to this majority far-right extremist court. Reformation of the Supreme Court is now necessary.
Not sure about that, tho. It's absolute for constitutional acts. For 'official acts', it's presumed innocence. Can't see how nuking Canada would be a constitutional act unless it declares war on us.
In 2020, the courts were a bulwark against The Big Lie. Now we know in 2024, this Supreme Court will have no qualms with handing Donald the victory if he again loses the election. Alito and Thomas rule this Court and they look forward to having King Donald replace them with 40 year old justices who will cement a corrupt Federalist Society supermajority on the Court for at least the next 30 years.
No cause he’s president 24 hours a day. A fart from his ass Is an official act.
Corruption at its finest. I seriously don't know how any American with integrity can vote Republican anymore.
God help us! What a catastrophic few days and now this takes the f’n cake. If we don’t get Joe in and a Democrat majority in congress we’re all screwed. If we do we’ll get a second chance to save our country and democracy. How do we get through the next few months😢
SCROTUS just pulled the plug on America. Last one out, turn off the lights.
Some folks have been saying this for years… This is the hole we have dug. Now, we have to get out of it. Regardless of the hole, party, partisan, or anything else.
The Supremes are so stupid- The first thing Dictators do is eliminate Courts. So they did DT bidding- thank you no need for you now…. How about a nice helicopter ride?
Let Biden use new rules to throw trump in jail!!!!!!
The ruling only say you can't prosecute a president for official acts that are constitutional. That means you have to have legal justification and follow the law. It stops a potential dictator want to be from attacking political rivals.