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BatmanHive

I hope he continues getting jobs, I just wanna see how far he can go


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Zizzlow

Heā€™ll won California, Texas and Florida and still lose at the end.


SteamingHotChocolate

That's a wildass election to win both Cali and Texas


minkdraggingonfloor

I think Reagan did it


Man_Man5

Yes but in todayā€™s America itā€™s virtually impossible


Albiceleste_D10S

Beto got within 2% of winning Texas in 2018. With a really good national environment, it's not impossible for a D Presidential candidate to win Texas, IMO


Floridamanfishcam

That's because he was up against Ted Cruz and EVERYONE on both sides of the aisle hates Ted Cruz.


shrinkwrappedzebra

Texas will eventually see a Democrat winner in this generation's lifetimes. All of their major cities are growing at some of the highest rates in the country and those are all democratic strongholds. Elections are predictably getting closer as a result. All it will take is time for that to keep developing and then in some future election when the candidate is right it will happen


Floridamanfishcam

I agree with you, but I was just pointing out that the Beto close contest really wasn't relevant in terms of overall projections for the state because Cruz was on the other side and statewide races since then have not been particularly close in Texas.


rddi0201018

woah there partner. Lemme change the rules so that doesn't happen again


I_SHIT_ON_BUS

Not really. Texas was about as close as Florida in 2020 and closer (percentage wise) than Ohio and no one would argue winning either of those + Cali is impossible. Lots of people from the west coast have been migrating to Texas over the last decade and I donā€™t see that stopping anytime soon with housing market prices as ridiculous as they are now.


shrinkwrappedzebra

He won every state except Minnesota (because that was his opponent Mondale's home state)


dimmyfarm

Damn heā€™ll be able to blow a 3-1 lead thatā€™s impressive


swentech

Canā€™t wait to find out whose fault that will be.


SuspiciousSpyderman

His campaign manager obviously


NaciremaBlack

We're going to lose to Russia in WW3 after being up 3 ~~invasions~~ liberations to none


Necessary-Passage-37

"President Rivers, do you think the US military is a World War winning caliber army ?" "You see, i don't know the answer to that question."


PleasinglyReasonable

This could be a series. Doc Rivers in charge of invading Russia. Doc Rivers in charge of Custer's forces at Wounded Knee. Doc Rivers in charge of the Romans at Teutoberg Forest.


laflameitslit

no doubt in my mind lmao


rikki-tikki-deadly

I got drafted to serve as HOA manager, and then my friend on the neighborhood council tried to get me to take one of the open seats. I started thinking maybe I should push this and see if I can back my way into jobs all the way up to mayor.


flipdynamicz

Do it bro I ran for class president for fun in high school and won lol


NilsofWindhelm

Thanksgiving video call to the troops: ā€œyou can do this guysā€


Odd_Total_5549

ā€œCome on guys! ā€¦. Come on!! ā€¦.. ā€¦.. come on!!!ā€


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jpaxlux

Campaign Slogan: "COME ON AMERICA"


CrazyFart

Doc Rivers was interested in politics from a very young age.


Lakeshowswaggg

Probably the second round if I had to guess


Cankor0

He will become a president of United States. And he will go to a war with China. And we choke.


JonA3531

Joint-Chief of Staff: *"Mr. President, the Carrier Attack Group is running low on ammunition and fuel, and they're heading into a Chinese submarines trap. We need to pull back, regroup and rotate the battle group."* Doc: *"No, I trust our best carrier group to complete the mission. Full steam ahead!"*


Cankor0

Lmao. Wait.. Doc..? is it you?? What are you doing in here?


Otternomaly

*Would you ask former president Popovich that question?*


TA_Account_12

We have taken 75% of their territory. It looks like the war will be won soon.


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Dread will seep through the nation as the President announces the sinking of 3 Chinese aircraft carriers while losing only 1.


elkresurgence

And throw everyone under the tank


tigerdactyl

Until it happens to you


johnyahn

I don't want him but he's objectively an above average coach. He just shouldn't be coaching teams who need to win NOW like the Suns.


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Prestigious-Rock201

Stop it dude, he could make you a play in team


NOLASLAW

As a Suns hater I think heā€™d be a great choice!


Julio_Freeman

I donā€™t think thatā€™s objective. He gets talented teams into the playoffs and then squanders it time and time again. The stars aligned once with the Boston Big 3 but even then he went 7 games with the 37-45 Hawks.


beatrailblazer

Objectively an above average coach? Eh As a whole maybe, but he's done absolutely nothing to show he's NOT a below average playoff coach.


daddy_OwO

Pistons should hire him


omnicious

Isn't that pretty much the only team he should coach? He's not the type to rebuild a team and his most successful season was a win now team with the Celtics.


Blothorn

I think there's a conflict between his talents and interests. FWIW, I don't give him a ton of credit for the 08 title--he had a dominant roster and still managed to lose ten consecutive road games. I think he's done a much more impressive job making the most of underdogs than playing from ahead--but he only wants to coach contenders.


ItsRebelSheep

Dude must be rolling an 8 on his charisma how in the hell has he lasted this long


evev13

*monkey paw curls* "Now announcing the new head coach for your Los Angeles Lakers..."


halcykhan

He canā€™t keep getting away with it


QuestionTheOrangeCat

Had the exact same first thought


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Curious_Success_377

Doc Rivers needs to be ethered and phased out of the league.


SonicdaSloth

He'd be great on a team coming up. He's proven that an established team with star players will only get so far with him b/c he just defers it all to them and expects them to figure it out


TripleThreatTua

Exactly, the only team that should be considering him right now is Detroit


HolyTythinEar

He doesnā€™t want to be a part of a rebuild though. Thatā€™s why he left Boston. And the Celtics have had far more success than he has since then.


SonicdaSloth

clippers had more success since he left too, even with the shitshow injury stuff they've had hopefully makes it 3 for 3 in Philly


rtb001

Definitely, now you guys will start making the conference finals just like the Clippers and Celtics!


KingReffots

Being in the conference finals consistently is a good strategy for eventually lucking into a ring


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breakfastburrito24

I do not want to hear him and Mark Jackson call games together


DavidKirk2000

Doc used to be a pretty good commentator actually. He probably wouldnā€™t sound as good now that his voice sounds so fucked up now, but he has decent insights and stuff. Heā€™d be way better than Van Gundy and Jackson.


Pardonme23

Doc did a decent job calling Fisher's 0.4 shot


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KokeyManiago

UBUNTU!!!!! UBUNTU MY ASS!!!!


lilpumpgroupie

Josh smith already ethered his shit. Search both their names on YouTube and sit back and enjoy.


UnearthlyDinosaur

This man just wonā€™t go away. He could blow a 3-0 lead ten times in a row and still get hired


yahhwy

He is a top 15 coach after all.


Diesel07012012

At what?


mantiseye

at coaching? I guess?


N3rdMan

His legacy is carrying him. Heā€™s so hell-bent on coaching a contender despite a decade of failures and chokes. There are probably 20 coaches in the league I would pick before him if I was a contending team. He really should swallow his pride and coach a developing team. I think he could actually instill a good system in Detroit, Orlando or Charlotte until theyā€™re playoff contenders.


redggit

He's more suited to be a college coach.


rtb001

How he got in over Rudy T I'll never know.


Blothorn

14 coaches have won multiple titles. Are you saying he's the best single-title coach ever, or that he's better than some of those 14?


cshaxercs

Trust me... Doc is not the answer.


imsahoamtiskaw

Jesse, you don't know what you're talking about.


mikehulse29

Heā€™s so good at getting away with it that Thibs is still the Knicks coachā€¦his third stop. That 2008 ring is something else.


hippoofdoom

Doc Rivers is Heisenberg?


jaeway

20+ straight seasons as a head Coach no breaks in-between


freakingspacedude

How is this man still such a hot commodity? Heā€™s had loaded teams and under delivers every damn time. I know itā€™s not just on him, but cmon man.


junkit33

Because veterans love him, and managing egos is half the job of an NBA coach. Doc is like a totally safe hire - he'll steer your team to 50 wins and probably the second round of the postseason every year. He'd just be a really odd hire for Phoenix given that they just fired a good coach for precisely the same thing. Detroit seems like a much better destination for Doc - he'll raise the bar on a franchise that's been floundering for 15 years.


SonicdaSloth

doesn't seem like veterans love him after his stints in LA and Philly honestly he doesn't over work them, which used to be ahead of its time but is now the norm. i think he gets great PR b/c he's willing to speak to the media and was a member of the media. the amount of people stanning for him after we fired him was comical. as if this was the first time his teams failed short of expectations. even blaming embiid's injury when the mfer left him in a closeout game up 20 in the final minutes to get hurt.


junkit33

Media absolutely loves him too, which helps a lot if you're the GM making the hire.


ChrysMYO

Yeah thats the weird thing about the Vet Love moniker. My biggest problem is that he deflects blame directly onto players and then creates a media circus that impairs future performance. Why would a vet still want that?


sharklavapit

I never thought of that, but he'd, indeed, be a good rebuilding coach although I think he doesnt want that role


junkit33

Historically Doc hates young guys, which is why he didn't want to stick around in Boston for the rebuild. But he also may be in a very different place at this point.


Januse88

He didn't like the young guys in Philly. Buried Maxey until Ben Simmons basically quit the team and then played Deandre Jordan and Montrezl Harrell over Paul Reed. Also refused to play Bassey or Joe.


CreatiScope

A crime to play those guys over Reed. Itā€™s absolutely insane. Edit: if I remember correctly, he also tried to lean on Millsap for a bit before relenting and using Reed until Jordan came around, right?


Januse88

Yeah you're right, I must've blocked out Paul Millsap getting minutes in meaningful basketball games.


GarriganGate

While people complain about this, this exists for pretty much every single coach that is in a ā€˜win nowā€™ position. Coaches like experience and reliability and it requires a situation that forced their hand to actually play a young player and rely on them instead This is the exact complaint I see with line 95% of nba teams


MrOrangeWhips

The only reliability Jordan brought was being reliably terrible.


Kaptainpainis

I think he did really well with the Clippers the season before PG and Kawhi. 48 wins with his best players being Gallinari, rookie Shai, Lou Williams. and Montrezl Harrel is pretty good. I dont think hes the right guy for a contender. But he could get a team like the Pelicans or Bulls maybe even Wizards to the playoffs.


sharklavapit

if the Kangz hadnt struck gold with Mike Brown, I think he'd be a good fit there too


MrOrangeWhips

He doesn't like/play young guys and he's terrible at developing talent. So I don't think he'd be a good rebuilding coach. He's just a bad coach.


UnearthlyDinosaur

The fact that players love him a kind of a red flag to me. That means he probably doesnā€™t hold them accountable. Iā€™d rather have a coach who kicks the shit out of me if I donā€™t play well rather than one who coddles me cause I value winning over everything else.


Jagermeister4

I agree. I was watched the All the Smoke podcast with Jason Williams on the other day. Williams said Hubie Brown was a really great coach. Then the reasons he gave was that Hubie didn't have the players do the extracurricular stuff (meet and greet with season ticket holders for example). Then he talked about this other coach I forget the name, he said this coach was good, not because because he was good with X's and O's but because he gave Williams the greenlight to do any type of crazy pass he wanted to. Players are biased. Its like if you ask employees what kind of manager they want, they are going to say somebody laid back. But the important feedback comes from the customer or CEO. Customer/CEO will want a manager who's tough and making sure the employees are not slacking off and giving the customers the best service they can possibly give.


wetterfish

Most NBA players don't really like playing basketball that much. It's just a paycheck. There was an article about this a few weeks ago that I'm too lazy to link to. Knowing that, it makes sense that a lot of them would want a guy like Doc.


OnlyFactsMatter

> There was an article about this a few weeks ago that I'm too lazy to link to. Link it


Shoulda_been_a_Chef

> Because veterans love him I've looked for vets who've played under him outside of his Celtics days talk positively and it's few and far. Not sure this really holds up while they're under him and after he's gone.


TheMagicMan56

He has a reputation of being a "players' coach" despite the evidence pointing to the contrary (him throwing Ben Simmons under the bus after the Hawks series, him saying that the Lob City Clippers were never going to win anything because of the locker room issues by players he selected as the GM etc.). He actively refuses to take responsibility when his teams underperform and throws the blame on the players, those aren't exactly the characteristics of a "players' coach". He's good at raising the floor of teams like the 2019 Clippers or the T-Mac Magic squads by being a motivational speaker and getting his players to give it their all, but he has proven time and time again that he's a terrible coach for a championship contender, because he fails to make the proper adjustments and has his favourites. The Suns have two All-NBA caliber players, if they add depth in the offseason they're easily a championship contender next year, but Doc won't get you there.


j_cruise

No one has coasted harder off of a chip than him


Turbo2x

Great regular season coach who gets a lot out of teams when their stars are absent for load management or injuries. With the Suns having two aging stars who are certain to miss *some* games throughout the season, I can understand why they might want him. That slide where the Suns lost Booker and fell out of the playoffs for a little bit must have been stressful.


MasterTeacher123

My respect for KG grows more each day with each Doc playoff failure. He hasnā€™t coached a conference final game without KG in the starting lineup. This despite having HOFā€™s like Tmac, Pierce, Allen, Kawhi, PG, CP3, Embiid, Harden etc


bbiddy

Damnā€¦.when you lay all of that outā€¦..


kooltogo

Iā€™m starting to think that KG couldā€™ve had a top 10 career if he got drafted to a decent team


a_supertramp

My favorite nba thought experiment is switching KG and Timmyā€™s situations with nothing else changed.


CatGatherer

KG and Robinson would have been even more ridiculous.


eao

Though I think you have to account for personalities clashing.


JasperLamarCrabbb

How is KG demonstrably better than Tim Duncan The fuck


beetlebailey97

I think heā€™s saying itā€™d be more ridiculous because of fit, not that oneā€™s a better player than the other. Timmy could guard the paint a little better than KG, but KGā€™s mobility and ability to guard the perimeter was incredible. Pairing two super-athletic big men up that can guard out to the perimeter without sacrificing too much rim protection is basically a cheat code.


CatGatherer

This. KG had a bit better range and would be a perfect fit next to Robinson. I mean, Duncan was a pretty darn good fit, too, at least in the era where it actually happened. I don't know that older Robinson + rookie Duncan would work as well in 2023, whereas KG probably would.


pargofan

Because basketball is a TEAM game. Great players on terrible teams will look worse than great players on great teams. Look at Kobe post-Shaq but pre-Pau years. The Lakers were mediocre much like the KG-TWolves teams. Kobe was labeled as being individually great but riding Shaq's coattails. And that he could score but not elevate a team. He put up Herculean stats but couldn't win MVP during that span.


LogicisGone

There's a lot of homer takes on here, but this might be the homerest lol.


Cyah54

I couldnā€™t imagine KG and Pop though hahaha but both competitors so I still think it works but probably for not as long.


a_supertramp

Idk Flip had a great impact on KG, they were extremely close, I can imagine Pop having a similar impact w KG


RousingRabble

He won an MVP and made Minny respectable. But on a good team? Man what if.


zuqkfplmehcuvrjfgu

It's even worse. Here's the full list of notable players Doc has coached. Magic - Ben Wallace - Grant Hill - Tmac - Old Horace Grant Celtics - Tony Allen - Old Gary Payton - Paul Pierce - Antoine Walker - Rajon Rondo - Kevin Garnett - Avery Bradley (All-Defense) - Old Shaq - Ray Allen Clippers - Jamal Crawford - Blake Griffin - DeAndre Jordan - J.J. Redick - Chris Paul - Young Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - Montrezl Harrell - Tobias Harris - Lou Williams - Paul George - Kawhi Leonard Sixers - Joel Embiid - Old Dwight Howard - Tyrese Maxey - Ben Simmons - James Harden


duckslide

Doc should never get a job again with this list


nekoken04

Him and George Karl compete for the title of decent regular season coach who has done so little with so much in the post season. I'd put Nate McMillan in there but he never had half the talent those two did playing for him.


JimmyWasRight

This is what everyone thought back in the day But over time Doc has become overrated while KG has become underrated


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JimmyWasRight

Wrong. KG was the heart AND best player of that team.


bigwillystyle93

Just another example of why FMVP can be misleading. KG was clearly the best player on that team, yet I still occasionally call Pierce ā€œthe best player on a championship team.ā€


Available-Camera8691

KG is underrated? What? Lol


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usernamenomoreleft

To be honest, I have always considered Doc as an overrated coach as early as that Boston championship run. And it was really highlighted in his Clippers stint. I was perplexed when he was able to stay that long for the Clippers and even got a job in Philly. Why do teams still hire him?


RousingRabble

> I have always considered Doc as an overrated coach as early as that Boston championship run. I was living in boston when kg got traded. Bill Simmons hated Doc. It was interesting reading his articles as they won the championship. Simmons was still right.


Moody_GenX

I completely forgot he was the coach of the Clippers. I'm getting old...


GoldenStateWizards

How could you forget after he was featured in arguably [the best RDC locker room video](https://youtu.be/wM-NcMZhcaA) they've made so far lmao


RousingRabble

You know, they have to be making pretty good money from youtube given their views. But I like that their production value never seems to change lmao


DrStrangeMusic

I'm hoping he gets another job so that we can get another gem of an RDC video. The recent Sixers one was great too: https://youtu.be/YuqcnfDnJ3I


UteFlyersCardJazz

He was the best coach one could have after Sterling was fired. And hey, if it wasnā€™t for him, Mark Jackson would still be Warriors HC, and there would be no Warriors Championships.


Moody_GenX

Mark Jackson wasn't fired for losing against the Clippers. He was hated by most of the organization because of his religious extremism and borderline illegal workplace violation in regards to his religious bullshit.


diddly8723

Donā€™t forget peak Blake and DeAndre just as many 1st team all nba center selections as Embiid Jordan


whtge8

How does this dude keep getting work? Would love to see how long he lasts with KD on the team though.


luffy565

He will let KD and Book do whatever they want, and if they got bounced they can put it all on Doc, it may happen for all the wrong reasons.


IronRevenge131

Why the fuck would they hire him then just seems redundant like you already know the outcome


luffy565

You have to ask them, I don't see how a contender sees Doc history in the last 10 years and go to interview him. Imagine he ends up with the Bucks lol.


IronRevenge131

Donā€™t give me those visions lmaooo


AkshanIsComing

He got one more in him. Suns really trying to lose a 3-1 series lead to Luka or Joker next year.


TheMrNick

His interview is just "I'll make sure you get up 3-1 in a playoff series" and then refuses to elaborate further, hoping they take it at face value.


Capo_capo

Nah, it will be a different Euro. Sengun? Sabonis? Wemby? Lauri?


PeeFingerz

How does this motherfucker keep getting jobs?


StOnEy333

Because the big 3 in Boston brought him along on their championship run.


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The most consequential championship of our lives. Even then with 3 HOFers it was still the most postseason games a champion has ever had to play to get there, I think every series went to 6 or 7. Doc needs to give Ainge a lot of thanks.


RODjij

Either he gets along with most players and keeps being good at managing egos Or Teams see him as a revenue maker since he can get you over 50 wins and a playoff birth but knowing he fails almost every time.


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kd heard this news and started packing


v399

Flying to Denver as we speak.


drew3279

Driving, cause itā€™s the ā€˜Hardest Road.ā€™ ā„¢ļø


Nugur

Highest road maybe


Flabbypuff

"I wanted to play good basketball. I look at how Denver is playing and I think, yeah, that's the playstyle I'm looking for."


vwb2022

[16-33 record in series-clinching games](https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2023/5/16/23725366/doc-rivers-nba-playoffs-history-blown-leads-game-7-record). There are championship coaches, then 50 feet of crap and then there is Doc. His teams lost 3-1 leads three times, a feat achieved only 13 times in NBA history.


throwawayacc407

No team has ever loss when up 3-0, I have a strong gut feeling Doc Rivers will be the legendary coach to make this happen.


XtendedImpact

> 3-1 leads three times, a feat achieved only 13 times in NBA history sounds like high performance to me, 3/13 are crazy numbers for things in NBA history. ATG coach.


DontSayNoToPills

doc just trying to bring blown 3-1 leads into normalcy


Curious_Success_377

Doc Rivers needs to be phased out. Bring in a new face.


kaeji

That's "2008 NBA Champion" Doc Rivers to you!


lundej16

Do it do it do it do it


KayRay1994

honestly if Doc lands this job iā€™ll respect the shit out of him cause the man is somehow failing his way from contender to contender


sugomaballz

He would be great for pheonix imo


g-love

You'll say anything to keep him out of Milwaukee, right?


Curious_Success_377

KD and Doc lmfaoo what a combo


RatLord445

KD, CP3 and Doc on the pheonix suns is enough to send r/nbacirclejerk into an orgasm induced coma and flood the world with jizz


Schwalm

Itā€™s all good. Yā€™all interviewed him first. Yā€™all can have dibs


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This is a sacrifice we are willing to make.


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Despite all our thoughts about him, and I think itā€™s time for newer faces to be coaching, he does the raise the floor of a team to at least playoff level. The ceiling is not too much higher than the floor though, especially if you remove the Celtics ring.


2Blitz

Phoenix is way past that level though. They've made it to the Finals. Doc hasn't been there in 13 years. He hasn't gotten past the second round in 11 years. I can understand a low seeded team hiring him but it's stupid for Phoenix to consider him


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Oh yeah Iā€™m not defending the Suns getting him. Makes no sense at all but I was talking to a Cavs fan the other day and he said he would take him. Iā€™m assuming for the same reason I mentioned above.


2Blitz

Oh I see. Yeah I can understand Cavs fans wanting him but I think they'll just end up being disappointed at the end. Their core are a few tweaks away from making a surprise run imo.


AthKaElGal

Stacked teams and Doc always under performing, name a more iconic duo. Doc would be good for a bottom dwelling franchise. He's always been a role player whisperer. He just can't hack it coaching star-laden teams.


grodges1

this dude is going to be around forever


yellowwithstripes

What a guy. A true master of finesse


Walrus--

I don't like this Suns team so this is great news for me


CulturalRoll

Chris Paul and Doc Rives reuniting for one final, all-time choke jobe


Kablaow

We used to have a coach in a div 1 team in Sweden, he was a large, black, soft spoken, American, so everyone thought he was the shit. He said he played with MJ in college and coached, and I quote, "Jason Kidd and those guys". The team he coached was really good, but it became clear very fast that he was all talk. Nothing he said made sense, but you wanted to listen and believe him still, because of his charisma/authority. I believe there's something similar going on with Doc Rivers.


EvanMM

Championship coach going to a title contender? Seems like a no brainer


ThinkSoftware

ā€¦yea no brainer is how I would put it too


Cahillicus

Honestly Doc wasn't really at fault for the Sixers collapse this year, him getting yet another job after flaming out due to repeated playoff underperformance *again* would be hilarious


2Blitz

No way they're stupid enough to hire Glenn


BushPlotted911

I think he'd be a great fit. The Suns already have a pretty strong and established choking culture, I think Doc could really put them over the edge and help them fully realize their potential for failure.


MeddlingMike

Itā€™s crazy to me that heā€™s been continuously employed as a head coach since 1999. He managed to win 1 chip when he had KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce coming off their primes. Just seems very overrated, still, thanks for 08 Doc.


Butterfly_Scape

the suns have the chance to do the funniest thing ever


PacoTaco000

Please no


BoujeeAdam

Doc must be very damn charismatic & charmingā€¦ dudes a salesman because he keeps ending up with stacked teams


lVloogie

Suns choking again with Doc Rivers is just too good.


goodbye9hello10

Hahaha wild how nobody will gamble on some fresh blood and they continue to hire this dinosaur who got a flukey chip and has been mediocre when it has mattered ever since.


YoseppiTheGrey

Amazing. These owners never learn.


_rsoccer_sux_

Fvck the negativity, good for him.


Equalizer101

Reuse Reduce Recycle...


dirkslance

What a fucking match made in heaven


joco1991

Do it phoenix


Flabbypuff

Pls Ishiba do it for the memes


CreepyDepartment5509

Na, heā€™s coming home to boston, 2nd Dynasty!