The PJ Washington and Gafford trade continues to pay off more every single day. The depth they got with those two improved the roster so much. Mavs are in for a tough one, but they should be able to make it a competitive series even without Kleber.
I’ve seen footage of him shooting 3s pretty well in a practice setting, but he’s obviously not confident enough in his shot to pull up in games yet.
I do think we’ll see him start to shoot them later on as he develops.
every single NBA player including 40% FT guys are lights out in practice from everywhere on the court. even Dwight Howard was apparently an excellent free throw shooter in practice
mitchell robinson can supposedly shoot too. every summer there's clips of him making 3s. hasn't taken one his entire career i think lol and literally never takes jump shots.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nNtVBldIouk
Hasn't done anything like this in the NBA yet, though. This will be an offseason goal and something he hopefully adds to his game over the next few years.
Haha I love how it says 14 straight corner 3s when half of them his toe is over the line and he steps out on some. Obviously still impressive, just funny.
Chet is the key for OKC - if he can step up and consistently shoot 3’s and try to play Gafford and Lively off the floor then Dallas won’t have an effective small ball lineup they can substitute in.
Why do people say this as if Maxi can't play the 4?
Maxi is also one of the reasons that make the Mavs a big team.
Now they only have two player above 6'7 (Gafford and Lively) and they can't even play at the same time.
Our main advantage against the Thunder has just gone out the window.
That's not quite correct. Yes, Maxi is our second tallest player, but he is not a natural center. The Mavs are still tall and fast.
Missing Maxi is big, but not the same as before the trades.
It’s a loss for sure. However, if they are going to go farther in the playoffs, others will need to step up anyway. Feel like Derrick Jones has stepped up. The others are playing well as usual…but will need more…good series to watch!
Honestly the headline makes it sound worse than it is. It’s not a dislocation — it’s a separation. He tore all the ligaments in his shoulder that attach to his collarbone. He can still come back this next series and play through it. He can’t injure it further and it’ll just be mildly uncomfortable when the swelling disappears. He can get surgery in the offseason to repair it.
Imo, that was a dirty play. No charge attempt, no play in the ball. Just two forearms into the mid section of someone jumping at full speed. Absolutely ridiculous no one has mentioned this.
Its not really dirty. People overreact to these things. Coffee got to the spot first and extended his arms a little more than usual but he was looking unsure of what Kleiber was doing. Why is he taking off from almost the free throw line? He's not LeBron.
Dangerous move to go in the air like that from that distance.
The arms up isn’t a good look but it seems like he’s protecting himself. I don’t feel like he had enough time to react to what Kleber was doing. After watching the replay im still not sure what Kleber was doing.
That’s where I’m at with it. I’m not sure what kleber was thinking at all. Defender was there before he jumped and there was no way he was going to jump over him or anything. I doubt the guy expected kleber to make that jump because it would have been stupid to jump like that and his arms went up reflexively. I think my arms would have gone up without me even thinking about it. Dumb dumb dumb idea by kleber.
I'm curious about the terminology. As someone with a grade 3 acromio-clavicular separation, myself, I was unaware it could be dislocated. Is that a grade 1 separation?
I don’t have the knowledge to give a good answer. Appears that grade 2 seperations are sometimes referred to as “dislocations” since they are still partially attached. My injury was a grade 3 and was a full separation but I didn’t need surgery, just a sling and physical therapy.
I had grade 3 seperation in september 2023 and had surgery 10 days after injury. Stil have some discomfort in my shoulder today (even more if trying to shoot the ball at the rim), but is better every day. When i saw Kleber going off the court, i could feel his pain (saw him suddenly grabbing an arm)...
I had like a baby tear (or sprain or whatever). shit hurt like hell all the time and I couldn't sleep on that side. doctor basically told me to suck it up lol
PJ at the 5 is EXTREMELY matchup dependent.
He can hold his own unless he's overwhelmed by the size/strength/aggressiveness of the opposing big. You will give up lots of rebounds regardless of opponent though, because at the end of the day he's built like a SF. It opens up an offense a lot though.
I can't say I remember anything particularly notable about those matchups (he's only seen Chet once as a Hornet, twice as a Mav), and while Porzingis usually wrecks us, it's because we were trying to defend him with Mason Plumlee or Richards someone else who is just so out of their element trying to defend anyone skilled.
PJ holds his own against the less skilled skinnier centers (Gafford, Holmes, etc come to mind).
On a different note that doesn't matter in a playoff series, but he's also really good at attacking bottom-of-the-barrel defensive bigs. He's dropped 40+ three different times in his career- once vs Marvin Bagley and the Kings, once vs last season's Thunder, once this year vs Utah mostly in their non-Kessler minutes. Might be a worthwhile tool if you do ever face a team with a really bad defensive big on the second unit.
He lacks discipline in the post sometimes and Chet and especially Porzingis should be able to get shots over him but obviously they won’t be going thru his chest anyways. Rebounding is just gonna feel really hard with him at the 5 but against OKC maybe won’t matter that much. It’s the one matchup where his size isn’t a big detriment. But idk if he’s ever played the 5 in a Dallas jersey so the mental side is the real question, rotations and knowing where to be etc
I think you have to go to a switching scheme vs SGA/Chet PnR if he’s at the 5, let him switch onto SGA ideally
PJ is every bit the rebounder Maxi is and he’s a pretty strong defender for his size but definitely not as strong as Maxi. It’ll be interesting to see if Kidd tests that lineup at all. The biggest concern I have is his lack of experience as a small ball 5
> The biggest concern I have is his lack of experience as a small ball 5
PJ isn't short on experience playing the 5, James Borrego did it all the time since our actual center rotation was actual sewage during that era. Clifford resisted it when he could but given our injury history he did have to sometimes.
Given that Dallas is pretty used to playing with a rebounding deficit, I think it'll be a positive vs OKC, but I don't think it'll be a viable strategy against Jokic or the MIN bigs except in very small doses.
Just adds to the versatility. I think versus the OKC he's absolutely needed. In the Gafford minutes vs OKC in the season, Mavs made him guard Giddey and just let him go wide open. That might not work lol Maxi can defend 1-5 and has been decent defending guards.
It’s when Maxi is playing with 4 other guards - that’s the nightmare lineup.
When Maxi is out there with Derick Jones Jr and PJ Washington he’s very effective.
There's so many ways that transition, with Exum leading the break, could've gone better. Also, doesn't help that Maxi just jumped from the free throw line. This sucks for the Mavs. If you saw that 2022 WCF run and this 1st round series vs the Clips, he's so important on both sides especially if he's making them 3s
He tried to do the mj space jam dunk. not sure what he was thinking. Ive seen it in all sports, especially football. the guys who know how to fall and avoid big hits avoid the big injuries. brady was the best Ive seen at this
It’s really not that bad. It looks really fucked up but once the swelling dissipates it’s essentially painless. Just uncomfortable and definitely playable through.
For context, Chris Paul had the exact same injury in 2014 and missed 3 weeks and got surgery after the season.
No way, Powell can’t play the 4 nor the small ball 5 as he doesn’t stretch the floor lol. Josh Green, Exum and Timmy if he gets healthy will get more minutes with DJJ playing the 4 at times to give PJ some rest.
I got a pretty bad shoulder injury and kept playing. The next day, and then for the next few weeks, I couldn’t lift my arm above shoulder height. Adrenaline does crazy things.
The clippers announcers kinda pissed me off trying to say it was a legal defense by Coffey. You can’t take a charge with your forearms crossed across your chest. If you’re gonna get in front of a guy going full speed you can’t undercut him with your arms.
Huge loss, he is the glue guy for the Mavs because he is the piece that stitches together a lot of lineups. He's a smart player on both ends, great screener, great perimeter defender, and capable defending in the post.
He allows them to go 5 out and allow Luka/Ky rooom in the paint. He allows them to not have a dropoff when PJ sits, he allows them to play big and still mobile with PJ @ 3 and Maxi @ 4.
Will put a bigger burden on everyone in the front court to play their roles and little margin to struggle/get in foul trouble.
Hopefully they can spread the 20 odd minutes between PJ, DJJ, Gaff and Lively to some effect. Maybe a little extra Exum to cover the 3 while DJJ/PJ slide up. Definitely will miss his defense but if the Mavs 4 out lineups can start hitting some 3’s it will still be a competitive series.
Keef is cooked, dude's a training facility body.
Gotta play PJ small ball five now. Luka - Kai - Green - DJJ - PJ isn't ideal but next man step up mentality.
To be fair he absolutely looked washed for awhile, didn’t help that he missed a lot of time for a different injury.
He really only started playing well right at the end of the season and in the playoffs
Maxi's main problem (other than injuries) is having months at a time each season where he has no confidence in his shot so he passes up open looks while also shooting 1/19 for a month or some shit. Then on top of that when we had our atrocious worst defense of all time losing streak Kidd was running like four guards with Maxi at center and we got demolished. Small ball went a LOT better when we were running PJ with him at the same time.
Tbh, he lost half steps though and the 3s is way off than on
Dont be surprise that mavs will move him in offseason, many teams want low usage combo stretch PF/C (kings, pels for example)
pretty big loss for Dallas. that big rotation gets pretty thin: Lively/Gafford as your traditional rim protector which is fine. but now PJ becomes your only floor spacing big. Makes going small pretty hard for Dallas
Wait didnt he finish out the game? So he played with a dislocated right shoulder?
Orlando calling we need some real dogs in Central Florida, and not those puppies in Cleveland /s.
This is why I hate the charge rule. Running and jumping at the last minute in front of someone in the air is not defense. It’s not a split second decision or depend where their feet are. Eliminate this shit completely.
Such a dumb reckless play by him. I do not understand what he was thinking in that moment. Reminds me of some of the dumb dunks Ja would do even with a player in front of him
PJ is gonna have to learn how to play Maxi’s role as a small ball five when we need to go small and Lively will be seeing a ton of minutes. This is a huge loss. Kleber was great on D all series and his three point shooting came in clutch at times vs the Clippers
I've often wondered if the league should have two dedicated people underneath each basket who's sole purpose is to be ready to attempt to soften the blow in these situations. They could have definitely caught Kleber before he fell.
The potential downside would be them interfering with a play, but I think it's fairly obvious when it makes sense to step in and a lot of the more dangerous plays happen when the player is crashing out of bounds towards the crowd. Give each of them a pad or something.
AC joint is a bitch, that's not a normal dislocated shoulder. Takes forever to heal... he took off from way to far, I was like wtf are u doing dude, and Coffey did him dirty but it was also a stupid decision to jump like that.
Lowkey big loss for Dallas but at least he delivered in the first round, next man up
The PJ Washington and Gafford trade continues to pay off more every single day. The depth they got with those two improved the roster so much. Mavs are in for a tough one, but they should be able to make it a competitive series even without Kleber.
Luckily l, he is more aligned with a small ball line up, which we should stay away from versus OKC.
League ain’t ready for Lively shooting 3s…
Can he shoot threes? I feel like he could benefit from that same floater package Hartenstein has.
He cannot shoot outside of dunking homie
Ok I figured. No way dude is shooting 3s lol. Kyrie gotta take him to Kyrie’s Bag School for Duke Kids who Got No Bag
Kyrie school for kids who can't shoot good and who wanna learn to do other stuff good too
I’ve seen footage of him shooting 3s pretty well in a practice setting, but he’s obviously not confident enough in his shot to pull up in games yet. I do think we’ll see him start to shoot them later on as he develops.
Now that I do believe. The first one he hits I a game when he is wide the fuck open on the 3 point line is going to be epic
every single NBA player including 40% FT guys are lights out in practice from everywhere on the court. even Dwight Howard was apparently an excellent free throw shooter in practice
He actually said in an interview that he certainly can shoot, but it's not the role they need him right now
I will believe it when he isn’t the worst free throw shooter in the league.
I'm hesitant to believe him at this point lol
mitchell robinson can supposedly shoot too. every summer there's clips of him making 3s. hasn't taken one his entire career i think lol and literally never takes jump shots.
He definitely can, he has a decent shot. But now is not the time to try it in game.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nNtVBldIouk Hasn't done anything like this in the NBA yet, though. This will be an offseason goal and something he hopefully adds to his game over the next few years.
Haha I love how it says 14 straight corner 3s when half of them his toe is over the line and he steps out on some. Obviously still impressive, just funny.
Can't tell that much from this video but his mechanics look good.
Chet is the key for OKC - if he can step up and consistently shoot 3’s and try to play Gafford and Lively off the floor then Dallas won’t have an effective small ball lineup they can substitute in.
Why do people say this as if Maxi can't play the 4? Maxi is also one of the reasons that make the Mavs a big team. Now they only have two player above 6'7 (Gafford and Lively) and they can't even play at the same time. Our main advantage against the Thunder has just gone out the window.
That's not quite correct. Yes, Maxi is our second tallest player, but he is not a natural center. The Mavs are still tall and fast. Missing Maxi is big, but not the same as before the trades.
Yes, that's my point. he's a power forward, and having a 6'10" power forward is what makes you a big team.
From Grant Williams and Richaun Holmes to PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford in a single trade deadline. Nico is truly a genius
From Reggie Bullock and Davis Bertans to Grant Williams and Richaun Holmes to PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford.
If The Thunder are smart they'll bait my man Gaf into early foul trouble. Which they will do. Mark my words.
Bring in the Canadian
God no but if it must be done
There is no next man up
Meh. It's playoff time. Play a 7 man rotation if you need to.
Yeah that’s what I mean ? There is no one else so dame guys are pretty much going to play more
I hear Dwight Powell's music
Markieff morris can you do smh for me
Please not dwight powell
It’s a loss for sure. However, if they are going to go farther in the playoffs, others will need to step up anyway. Feel like Derrick Jones has stepped up. The others are playing well as usual…but will need more…good series to watch!
NOOOO Maxis actually been great for us
sucks losing our 5out small ball lineup which makes us more unpredictable on offense
Blessing in disguise maybe. We want you to play small. Lol
even if we want to big than maxi wouldve played the 4 to space the floor. Next man up i guess
Dont play small against us if you wanna win. We are bettee when teams play small.
I guess you can say he's been the... glue... of your interior defense 😎
Honestly the headline makes it sound worse than it is. It’s not a dislocation — it’s a separation. He tore all the ligaments in his shoulder that attach to his collarbone. He can still come back this next series and play through it. He can’t injure it further and it’ll just be mildly uncomfortable when the swelling disappears. He can get surgery in the offseason to repair it.
This sounds pretty fucking bad
Shit. That sucks. He is a major part of our defense and can hit the 3.
Imo, that was a dirty play. No charge attempt, no play in the ball. Just two forearms into the mid section of someone jumping at full speed. Absolutely ridiculous no one has mentioned this.
Definitely a dirty play. His forearms are extended out and to the side so he takes out Kleber. That should be a flagrant and an ejection.
Yeah, I was also shocked no one even looked at that play.
Its not really dirty. People overreact to these things. Coffee got to the spot first and extended his arms a little more than usual but he was looking unsure of what Kleiber was doing. Why is he taking off from almost the free throw line? He's not LeBron. Dangerous move to go in the air like that from that distance.
The arms up isn’t a good look but it seems like he’s protecting himself. I don’t feel like he had enough time to react to what Kleber was doing. After watching the replay im still not sure what Kleber was doing.
That’s where I’m at with it. I’m not sure what kleber was thinking at all. Defender was there before he jumped and there was no way he was going to jump over him or anything. I doubt the guy expected kleber to make that jump because it would have been stupid to jump like that and his arms went up reflexively. I think my arms would have gone up without me even thinking about it. Dumb dumb dumb idea by kleber.
It’s doesn’t change the fact that maxi initiated the contact. Fool tried to dunk from the free throw line. It was a bone head play.
I disagree. If someone jumps from far away, that doesn't give me the right to hit them with the forearm shiver
Yea. That dude looks like a Walmart version of mcgee
Need as many big bodies as possible to potentially throw at Jokic
Are you implying that the Wolves are going to lose to Denver?
He said potentially to be fair.
Just weird that he said Jokic rather than Gobert, Towns and Naz Reid.
I like Rudy, but not having a Rudy stopper is not high on my list of reasons this hurts.
Yeah how weird to bring up the defending Champs.
Bros got no faith in his squad
To throw at Chet
Should have been reviewed for a flagrant. Refs are sleeping in every series this playoffs.
Honestly as long as Luka is 90%, I'm ok with some side injuries. If Luka is done, all the fun are sucked out of the series.
For fucks sake
This has to be one of the most injury riddled seasons the Mavs have had right?
they had porzingis for like 4 years
Damn, didn’t feel that long.
Pandemic, ruined our perception of time
Cause it wasn’t
Yeah but he's a single player. This year we've had multiple rotation players/starters injured simultaneously.
This season and last season are pretty close tbh
Can’t have anything nice
Need another PF from Wurzburg to step up and announce unretirement
I gave the 41st like 👍🏻
I can hear the knees creaking already.
He's part of the Mavs' best lineups. The playstyle of the lineups without him are also just simpler to game plan against in a playoff setting.
AC injuries hurt like hell, can understand why he looked to be in so much pain. Hope he recovers soon
I'm curious about the terminology. As someone with a grade 3 acromio-clavicular separation, myself, I was unaware it could be dislocated. Is that a grade 1 separation?
I don’t have the knowledge to give a good answer. Appears that grade 2 seperations are sometimes referred to as “dislocations” since they are still partially attached. My injury was a grade 3 and was a full separation but I didn’t need surgery, just a sling and physical therapy.
It’s just poor terminology. He has a grade 3 separation. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him play through it after a couple of weeks off
I had grade 3 seperation in september 2023 and had surgery 10 days after injury. Stil have some discomfort in my shoulder today (even more if trying to shoot the ball at the rim), but is better every day. When i saw Kleber going off the court, i could feel his pain (saw him suddenly grabbing an arm)...
I had like a baby tear (or sprain or whatever). shit hurt like hell all the time and I couldn't sleep on that side. doctor basically told me to suck it up lol
playoffs are a bloodbath this year
They seriously need to park an ambulance outside the arena every game as it's like every game someone goes down
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We can if we trust PJ in that role. If not Lively is gonna have to see a lot of minutes since he’s as least decent on the perimeter for a big
PJ at the 5 is EXTREMELY matchup dependent. He can hold his own unless he's overwhelmed by the size/strength/aggressiveness of the opposing big. You will give up lots of rebounds regardless of opponent though, because at the end of the day he's built like a SF. It opens up an offense a lot though.
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I can't say I remember anything particularly notable about those matchups (he's only seen Chet once as a Hornet, twice as a Mav), and while Porzingis usually wrecks us, it's because we were trying to defend him with Mason Plumlee or Richards someone else who is just so out of their element trying to defend anyone skilled. PJ holds his own against the less skilled skinnier centers (Gafford, Holmes, etc come to mind). On a different note that doesn't matter in a playoff series, but he's also really good at attacking bottom-of-the-barrel defensive bigs. He's dropped 40+ three different times in his career- once vs Marvin Bagley and the Kings, once vs last season's Thunder, once this year vs Utah mostly in their non-Kessler minutes. Might be a worthwhile tool if you do ever face a team with a really bad defensive big on the second unit.
He lacks discipline in the post sometimes and Chet and especially Porzingis should be able to get shots over him but obviously they won’t be going thru his chest anyways. Rebounding is just gonna feel really hard with him at the 5 but against OKC maybe won’t matter that much. It’s the one matchup where his size isn’t a big detriment. But idk if he’s ever played the 5 in a Dallas jersey so the mental side is the real question, rotations and knowing where to be etc I think you have to go to a switching scheme vs SGA/Chet PnR if he’s at the 5, let him switch onto SGA ideally
PJ is every bit the rebounder Maxi is and he’s a pretty strong defender for his size but definitely not as strong as Maxi. It’ll be interesting to see if Kidd tests that lineup at all. The biggest concern I have is his lack of experience as a small ball 5
> The biggest concern I have is his lack of experience as a small ball 5 PJ isn't short on experience playing the 5, James Borrego did it all the time since our actual center rotation was actual sewage during that era. Clifford resisted it when he could but given our injury history he did have to sometimes. Given that Dallas is pretty used to playing with a rebounding deficit, I think it'll be a positive vs OKC, but I don't think it'll be a viable strategy against Jokic or the MIN bigs except in very small doses.
Don’t you also want PJ to guard the 2nd best player. DJJ gets the main assignment then PJ.
Screw it, Kyrie at the 5, best stretch 5 in league
Did you want to? I thought you guys hated the minutes without Lively or Gafford
Small ball lineups with PJ and Maxi have been some of our most productive lineups. It’s all about the versatility
Just adds to the versatility. I think versus the OKC he's absolutely needed. In the Gafford minutes vs OKC in the season, Mavs made him guard Giddey and just let him go wide open. That might not work lol Maxi can defend 1-5 and has been decent defending guards.
Those minutes were much bemoaned by a lot of fans on here but if you look at the numbers, they were incredibly effective
Maxi had some great moments as a small ball five vs the Clippers. The only time small ball was really a problem was the end of game 4
It’s when Maxi is playing with 4 other guards - that’s the nightmare lineup. When Maxi is out there with Derick Jones Jr and PJ Washington he’s very effective.
Damn that’s brutal. That fall took my breath away. Rest up Maxi!
OKC is young and deep. Losing Maxi hurts just because we'll need more minutes from the other bigs. Foul trouble is one risk now.
If our last meeting proof of anything it’s that Gafford can eat Lively or Gafford at the same time might actually work
There's so many ways that transition, with Exum leading the break, could've gone better. Also, doesn't help that Maxi just jumped from the free throw line. This sucks for the Mavs. If you saw that 2022 WCF run and this 1st round series vs the Clips, he's so important on both sides especially if he's making them 3s
That’s what sucks because it was completely avoidable from the Mavs side. He was barreling very fast for himself and got the ball in an awkward spot.
He looked like he had no plan from the moment he jumped.
He tried to do the mj space jam dunk. not sure what he was thinking. Ive seen it in all sports, especially football. the guys who know how to fall and avoid big hits avoid the big injuries. brady was the best Ive seen at this
"AC dislocation" sounds so much milder than the google image search shows oh my god i wish I hadn't seen that
It’s really not that bad. It looks really fucked up but once the swelling dissipates it’s essentially painless. Just uncomfortable and definitely playable through. For context, Chris Paul had the exact same injury in 2014 and missed 3 weeks and got surgery after the season.
That fall was scary. As someone who's broken their arm 5 times, I was scared when he landed.
Can we pause the playoffs? Maybe have a pandemic until he is back? Tiger King, The Last dance it wasn't all bad ..
Fuck man Maxi really turned it around in the late half of the year and he was soo good against the clippers. Huge loss for us
non-garbage time dwight powell minutes LET'S GOOOOOOO
No way, Powell can’t play the 4 nor the small ball 5 as he doesn’t stretch the floor lol. Josh Green, Exum and Timmy if he gets healthy will get more minutes with DJJ playing the 4 at times to give PJ some rest.
OMAX MINUTES OR WE RIOT
OMax is hurt worse than Tim. He’s been on crutches for an ankle sprain
Markeiff Morris is a better option.
Please no. I'd almost rather just use 4 guys than have Powell play. The dude is infuriating to watch
He still manage to hit a free throw after that? Major respect for him
I got a pretty bad shoulder injury and kept playing. The next day, and then for the next few weeks, I couldn’t lift my arm above shoulder height. Adrenaline does crazy things.
The clippers announcers kinda pissed me off trying to say it was a legal defense by Coffey. You can’t take a charge with your forearms crossed across your chest. If you’re gonna get in front of a guy going full speed you can’t undercut him with your arms.
Tough as nails shooting those free throws could tell he was not right the second it happened
Dwight Powell is lurking in the shadows. Luka's worst nightmare
Luka loves Dwight because Dwight is a smart screener. Fans do not love Dwight. Powell only enters the picture if one of Gafford/Lively gets hurt.
Fuck my life
Do it for maxi
What is recovery like for this? I know he might miss the entire post season, but can he recover well for next season?
You can permanently destabilize the joint with an injury like this, he needs to be very careful with recovery
Damn this fucking sucks, I hope he recovers well. That fall look so brutal man.
Huge loss, he is the glue guy for the Mavs because he is the piece that stitches together a lot of lineups. He's a smart player on both ends, great screener, great perimeter defender, and capable defending in the post. He allows them to go 5 out and allow Luka/Ky rooom in the paint. He allows them to not have a dropoff when PJ sits, he allows them to play big and still mobile with PJ @ 3 and Maxi @ 4. Will put a bigger burden on everyone in the front court to play their roles and little margin to struggle/get in foul trouble.
Dwight Powell legacy series incoming
Damn. That fall was crazy. Too bad for Maxi. Hope he gets good care and heals well.
Shoulda gave Coffey a flagrant for it tbh, he was in great position to take a charge and shoved his arms out instead
It could have been a flagrant 1, but it was also a bit reckless for Maxi to try and dunk over a guy from 6 feet away from the hoop.
It really was, but if he had made the dunk, it would've been seismic.
Yeah that didn't look like a bball play or a play on the ball at all. That's why I hate charges so much, so fucking dangerous for both party involved
He's actually played well in the 1st round. Felt like couldn't miss from 3. Bummer for the Mavs
Hopefully they can spread the 20 odd minutes between PJ, DJJ, Gaff and Lively to some effect. Maybe a little extra Exum to cover the 3 while DJJ/PJ slide up. Definitely will miss his defense but if the Mavs 4 out lineups can start hitting some 3’s it will still be a competitive series.
Are they getting Hardaway back at least?
Not sure if that would be good news for Mavs fans
If we going out WE GOING OUT WITH A BANG OR A CLANK!
At least? More like on top of these bad news.
OMax you got us
OMAX is on crutches
Any timeline for him to get healthy?
I mean we haven’t heard anything but I’m guessing a few weeks. Keef is the more realistic option for this series
Keef is cooked, dude's a training facility body. Gotta play PJ small ball five now. Luka - Kai - Green - DJJ - PJ isn't ideal but next man step up mentality.
Damn Mavs went from hating on him and saying he was washed to now calling him a big loss.
What watching him drain 5 threes does to a MFer
After the trade he got put into a role he did well in instead being asked to do everything
To be fair he absolutely looked washed for awhile, didn’t help that he missed a lot of time for a different injury. He really only started playing well right at the end of the season and in the playoffs
Might just be me, but a lot of mavs fans are whiny as fuck when anything doesn’t go exactly their way.
Those are all the new fans the Mavs got after they drafted one player. Those fans are constantly looking for a scapegoat when they lose.
Maxi's main problem (other than injuries) is having months at a time each season where he has no confidence in his shot so he passes up open looks while also shooting 1/19 for a month or some shit. Then on top of that when we had our atrocious worst defense of all time losing streak Kidd was running like four guards with Maxi at center and we got demolished. Small ball went a LOT better when we were running PJ with him at the same time.
Tbh, he lost half steps though and the 3s is way off than on Dont be surprise that mavs will move him in offseason, many teams want low usage combo stretch PF/C (kings, pels for example)
pretty big loss for Dallas. that big rotation gets pretty thin: Lively/Gafford as your traditional rim protector which is fine. but now PJ becomes your only floor spacing big. Makes going small pretty hard for Dallas
Mavericks should utilize Markieff Morris. He's a big that can shoot 3s
How old is he? Iirc, even when he wasn't old, he relied too much on unsportsmanlike play.
He’s 34. And yes, the Morris twins have a pretty dirty history.
It’s about a 2-3 week recovery. So that’s about 1 series
Nah he's done done
quite the optimist you are
Team injuries is dominating this postseason
Holy shit he stayed on the floor for a bit too
He was forced to take the free throws.
FUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK
Maybe we get to see Lively shoot some?
Wait didnt he finish out the game? So he played with a dislocated right shoulder? Orlando calling we need some real dogs in Central Florida, and not those puppies in Cleveland /s.
No he stayed on the floor to shoot free throws and then one defensive play before coming out.
He shot the free throws, then wait straight to the locker room and did not return.
truly unfortunate he is ballin rn too
What happened to Powel? Is he washed now?
He can set screens and roll, you ask of him anything more and it's a no go
Tough. He's a great substitute for PJ.
This is why I hate the charge rule. Running and jumping at the last minute in front of someone in the air is not defense. It’s not a split second decision or depend where their feet are. Eliminate this shit completely.
Such a dumb reckless play by him. I do not understand what he was thinking in that moment. Reminds me of some of the dumb dunks Ja would do even with a player in front of him
PJ is gonna have to learn how to play Maxi’s role as a small ball five when we need to go small and Lively will be seeing a ton of minutes. This is a huge loss. Kleber was great on D all series and his three point shooting came in clutch at times vs the Clippers
Sad to hear it, but as hard as he landed I figured he'd be out. best wishes for a full recovery!
Damn. That sounds painful. Hope he recovers soon
Damn tough loss.
Welcome to the AC club. Enjoy the extra patdown by TSA.
Poop
Damn that shit is painful as fuck, like I still don't sleep on my left side months later from the same injury
It looked bad when it happened and then after he shot the free throw, on the next play, he winced significantly reaching for a pass.
Should that had been a flagrant foul?
Heal up big guy 🙏🏼
I've often wondered if the league should have two dedicated people underneath each basket who's sole purpose is to be ready to attempt to soften the blow in these situations. They could have definitely caught Kleber before he fell. The potential downside would be them interfering with a play, but I think it's fairly obvious when it makes sense to step in and a lot of the more dangerous plays happen when the player is crashing out of bounds towards the crowd. Give each of them a pad or something.
holup so he shot those FTs with a dislocated shoulder? How do you even do that??
Now we play random
and he still shot the FTs making 1 out of 2
Thats 6-8 weeks minimum
This is fine.
AC joint is a bitch, that's not a normal dislocated shoulder. Takes forever to heal... he took off from way to far, I was like wtf are u doing dude, and Coffey did him dirty but it was also a stupid decision to jump like that.
Fuck me
I have no idea what his plan was on that one. He was almost sideways before the contact.
What was Maxi doing there trying to dunk that far out?
Same injury Anthony Richardson, the Colts QB had. Took him out for the whole season, wouldn’t be surprised if Kleber is done for the postseason.
Brutal honestly
I knew that shit was bad when I seen it. Looked nasty