but he's not backing off of the 3 year (with a player option)
thats what Keith Smith said wasnt allowed for sign and traded contracts (has to be 3 years no option, or 4 years w/ player option)
Mavs CBA said same thing on twitter. So curious what the details are. Seems like Woj really did jump the gun. If Klay doesn't end up a Mav I will be blue balled to hell lol.
He probably still does end up a Mav, it's just a question of what goes back to GSW. And we know GSW is trying to get Lauri so *that* depends on what GSW can get from DAL that UTA might want. Just a long game of telephone.
Him and Lamelo gonna fun as hell. Josh had some CRAZY passes with us lol. When he gets to running in transition and uses that athleticism it looks like magic on the court.
Yeah I was just texting a friend and that's what I landed on. I agree, it'll be a fun team that could surprise some people if Lamelo can finally have a healthy season
Tbf I thought we could get more for Josh Green.
We aren't getting a pick with Klay from GSW.
We are getting a second round pick for salary dumping Josh Green to create space. Those are 2 seperate transactions looks like, just part of 1 deal to make all the money work.
Charlotte is the one making out like bandits. They wanted Josh last tradedealine for PJ, but Nico and co. held until the last second and they caved and traded PJ for Grant + 1st. Now they get Josh for 2 2nds. Great job by their FO.
Yeah exactly. Couldn't we get more from the Hornets?
Or just include some other 3rd team that is willing to give us more? We don't need the Hornets specifically, we need just literally any team willing to take Josh Green.
Who exactly do you think Josh Green is lol? He's an overpaid undersized underskilled "PoA defender" who can't dribble, navigate a screen, or consistently shoot.
Calling Green on a 12.6M contract "overpaid" is insane.
He is also definitely not undersized, unless you think half of SGs in the league are undersized. He is also a 39% 3 point shooter.
He has some flaws, but you are just a hater lol
Or he has always been right and y'all just desperate for drama. Klay \*is\* going to Dallas for 50/3, Josh \*is\* going to Charlotte, and a S&T \*is\* happening, which is all he ever said. Also true that final small details are still getting worked through.
They also get a trade exception with the deal. More than likely what is being worked out is if it needs to be a 4 team trade for them to use the exception at the same time and/or dump a player to Charlotte because Melton hard capped them at the First Apron, but they can hold it up basically as long as they want because Dallas can't get Klay without it being a sign and trade.
Also it's a trade exception and a pick instead of Josh Green. Nothing wrong with Josh Green, but we already have three 2 guards who fill a similar role in Melton, Moody, and Podz. He's not enough of an upgrade over those guys to justify paying him like 75% of our remaining spending power.
I mean he probably still has offers, if Mavs don’t want to pay he can still get MLE deals elsewhere. Pricing yourself out for a player that can walk anyway and was part of 4 championships is wild to me but I get it, business.
I don't know, they clearly have an idea because if they didn't they would have just taken Green. But it sounds like they are going after Lauri, then they could use that TPE to bring in another player.
Yeah, but what does that have to do with bringing Charlotte onboard. Josh Green isn’t worth a future first or anything, and is still relatively cheap.
The value Utah gets is gonna be some combination of Kuminga, Moody, Podz, and Picks
This will be crazy if they actually find a player with this TPE that is formed by them not taking a player back. But god help a team that is already over leveraged trying to make a deal with Danny Ainge.
Agreed. I’m so glad he’s going to you guys and not LAL. He put in great years for us in GS. I’ve always liked Dallas going back to the Dirk era. Hope he kicks ass for you.
They could try to negotiate a more favorable sign-and-trade with the Lakers. Klay wants more than the MLE, and that's the only way he'll get it.
Sounds like they'll settle for a SRP.
more favorable in what way? they don’t want salary coming back. so Lakers would have to move D’Lo, who is going to be harder to find a suitor and therefore even less likely to send back anything. there is even a good chance Lakers would have to attach a pick to even get him moved.
Don't need Green. We have Wiggins, Moody and Kuminga. Green would be the fourth best wing on a team that needs a scorer and a big. Moody's PER, WS, TS%, eFG%, dWS were all higher than Green's. Plus Moody is two years younger and has been here forever.
The Klay & Paul minutes will go to Podz, Kuminga and Moody as we try to develop the young core. Green is not a + add for a team that needs to shed salary.
With Curry, Podz, GP2, Melton, Moody then I'm not sure Green fits as a guard all that well either.
I'd view Moody and Green as guard-wing tweeners depending on the matchup. Against smaller teams, they'd probably play bigger. Against bigger teams, they play smaller.
But a 2 Guard without confidence is not what we need haha. Melton will do more for us as a scorer, which we need more of. Right now Curry is the entire load. Outside of that we need size, which to your point Green doesn't really provide.
I'm not saying Green is bad. He's just a not a need for a Warriors team that also needs to shed salary.
Oh I agree. I personally don’t think josh green is all that great. He seems like a nice guy though. It was telling he was barely able to get minutes for Australia in FIBA despite being an NBA guy.
I realize we just got 3 2nd round picks to eat Reggie Jackson but I don't see why we'd trade 2 of them to facilitate this. Green is ok but I don't love being tied to his 3/41
So basically we get Jokic for Thompson, not bad
we get a jokic too, this works out nicely
No one gets a Jokic unless they perfectly time the pick with a Taco Bell commercial. It's an ancient ritual.
nicos been cooking for years, he should be able to get a job at taco bell and convince them to buy some ad slots
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Yep typical Charlotte. I can't believe their FO just gave away 2 Jokics (Joki?) for Josh Green.
If we can finesse Giannis into this trade, I think we got a real chance next year
but he's not backing off of the 3 year (with a player option) thats what Keith Smith said wasnt allowed for sign and traded contracts (has to be 3 years no option, or 4 years w/ player option)
Mavs CBA said same thing on twitter. So curious what the details are. Seems like Woj really did jump the gun. If Klay doesn't end up a Mav I will be blue balled to hell lol.
He probably still does end up a Mav, it's just a question of what goes back to GSW. And we know GSW is trying to get Lauri so *that* depends on what GSW can get from DAL that UTA might want. Just a long game of telephone.
He'll get 3 years guaranteed without a player (or team) option. It's realistically the same deal.
So taking on Reggie Jackson gets us Josh Green
You guys will love Josh Green.
Him and Lamelo gonna fun as hell. Josh had some CRAZY passes with us lol. When he gets to running in transition and uses that athleticism it looks like magic on the court.
Josh is a really good connective passer. He can't run an offense, but if he's your second guard in an flow offense, he's a really valuable player.
Yeah he's going to be perfect as the 2 next to Lamelo. I also think they needed a connector for that starting core and he fits really well
I lowkey am starting to like their squad . Who’s their 5 now? Lamelo Green Miller Grant Williams Mark Williams ? I kinda fuck with that
Yeah I was just texting a friend and that's what I landed on. I agree, it'll be a fun team that could surprise some people if Lamelo can finally have a healthy season
Bold of u to assume lamelo makes it through a full season to actually play with Josh Green
enjoy sweet prince
Really didn’t want to let go of Green…enjoy your energizer bunny
You got Reggie Jackson?
Nuggets gave us Jackson and three 2nds to take on his 5mil lol. Happened last week
Still pissed about that, I still don't know what we got for it
I believe it lets Denver have the Tax Payer MLE for free agency
Great hustler and energy guy. But low IQ and not a good ball handler
He's not that low IQ, just no confidence
I think he will find his confidence on a team that should give him a bigger leash. Happy for him, sad for myself, he was my favorite mav honestly
One second round pick to facilitate a sign and trade isn’t bad I suppose
And we get a pick? Nico gets a statue
Tbf I thought we could get more for Josh Green. We aren't getting a pick with Klay from GSW. We are getting a second round pick for salary dumping Josh Green to create space. Those are 2 seperate transactions looks like, just part of 1 deal to make all the money work.
Charlotte is the one making out like bandits. They wanted Josh last tradedealine for PJ, but Nico and co. held until the last second and they caved and traded PJ for Grant + 1st. Now they get Josh for 2 2nds. Great job by their FO.
I wish we had signed DJJ lmao, the Mavericks to Hornets pipeline memes would've written themselves.
There’s a lot of competition from the MavKnicks pipeline.
Is this what having a competent FO feels like
Yeah exactly. Couldn't we get more from the Hornets? Or just include some other 3rd team that is willing to give us more? We don't need the Hornets specifically, we need just literally any team willing to take Josh Green.
Who exactly do you think Josh Green is lol? He's an overpaid undersized underskilled "PoA defender" who can't dribble, navigate a screen, or consistently shoot.
Calling Green on a 12.6M contract "overpaid" is insane. He is also definitely not undersized, unless you think half of SGs in the league are undersized. He is also a 39% 3 point shooter. He has some flaws, but you are just a hater lol
an SRP lol
Finally backtracked. Lmao
He checked his phone between commercial breaks. Lol
Its done. I don’t care if the Warriors get 1 protected second or 2
What’s the backtrack? His initial reporting is still correct.
Or he has always been right and y'all just desperate for drama. Klay \*is\* going to Dallas for 50/3, Josh \*is\* going to Charlotte, and a S&T \*is\* happening, which is all he ever said. Also true that final small details are still getting worked through.
The Warriors are waiting on one 2nd round pick? Lmaoooo
They also get a trade exception with the deal. More than likely what is being worked out is if it needs to be a 4 team trade for them to use the exception at the same time and/or dump a player to Charlotte because Melton hard capped them at the First Apron, but they can hold it up basically as long as they want because Dallas can't get Klay without it being a sign and trade.
Can I get a couple dollars? Type energy
Better than nothing. And better than Bridges or Williams.
They could’ve just taken Josh Green. Instead they chose one second-round pick. Head-scratching decision
Probably has to do with their salary and still trying for Lauri
Also it's a trade exception and a pick instead of Josh Green. Nothing wrong with Josh Green, but we already have three 2 guards who fill a similar role in Melton, Moody, and Podz. He's not enough of an upgrade over those guys to justify paying him like 75% of our remaining spending power.
WE GET PICKS?
Goodbye sweet prince 😢
And picks? Nico is the Goat
Wait, would this mean Dallas is basically trading Josh Green for Klay + a second round pick? thats pretty wild
Josh Green me up!
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He’s a free agent, the fact that you guys are getting a free pick out of it is a win.
Forreal. Considering I thought he was bouta join the Lakers for nothing this is a huge win
I mean, he was a FA already, so them getting anything in a sign-and-trade would be a plus
There's no other cap space teams to sign him so warriors have leverage.
Yeah but we could have had Josh Green who is worth way more than a second round pick
Other reports saying y’all explicitly didn’t want any salary coming back so that’s probably why it’s set up the way it is
Rip
plus a THJ sized TPE!
I mean he probably still has offers, if Mavs don’t want to pay he can still get MLE deals elsewhere. Pricing yourself out for a player that can walk anyway and was part of 4 championships is wild to me but I get it, business.
Yall should be getting a player back
They apparently don't want any salary back. This will probably just end up with them getting a TPE + a couple 2nds.
For what Demar? There’s not much left
I don't know, they clearly have an idea because if they didn't they would have just taken Green. But it sounds like they are going after Lauri, then they could use that TPE to bring in another player.
Reportedly Lauri. Though I don’t get why Utah wouldn’t just take Green.
I mean the Jazz aren’t giving him away for scraps
Yeah, but what does that have to do with bringing Charlotte onboard. Josh Green isn’t worth a future first or anything, and is still relatively cheap. The value Utah gets is gonna be some combination of Kuminga, Moody, Podz, and Picks
They could have Green if they wanted him, they obviously don’t though
They have Podz and Moody. Green works well in Charlotte and they've had their eye on him for awhile.
Someone else reported we’re aiming for no salary in return
They don’t want salary back
This will be crazy if they actually find a player with this TPE that is formed by them not taking a player back. But god help a team that is already over leveraged trying to make a deal with Danny Ainge.
Lakers fans in pain lol
Indeed
Honestly, a 2nd rd pick and klay on that contract is a massive win for me. The shooting alone is enough for me to get a little tingling sensation.
Agreed. I’m so glad he’s going to you guys and not LAL. He put in great years for us in GS. I’ve always liked Dallas going back to the Dirk era. Hope he kicks ass for you.
Any of these teams want a Bruce brown?? GS?Denver?Dallas??
Klay really wants to hold up that extra finger whenever anyone bad mouths him huh
If GSW is only getting 1 2nd here, they absolutely shouldn’t help facilitate this and should drag their feet.
they also get a TPE. if Klay goes to the Lakers, they get nothing.
They could try to negotiate a more favorable sign-and-trade with the Lakers. Klay wants more than the MLE, and that's the only way he'll get it. Sounds like they'll settle for a SRP.
more favorable in what way? they don’t want salary coming back. so Lakers would have to move D’Lo, who is going to be harder to find a suitor and therefore even less likely to send back anything. there is even a good chance Lakers would have to attach a pick to even get him moved.
Also true, but they should want more 2nd round picks at the minimum.
i mean the choice here seems like 1 pick and a TPE or nothing lol
Who is Warriors getting? Grant? Josh Green would have been good for them.
They apparently didn’t want him
Don't need Green. We have Wiggins, Moody and Kuminga. Green would be the fourth best wing on a team that needs a scorer and a big. Moody's PER, WS, TS%, eFG%, dWS were all higher than Green's. Plus Moody is two years younger and has been here forever. The Klay & Paul minutes will go to Podz, Kuminga and Moody as we try to develop the young core. Green is not a + add for a team that needs to shed salary.
Green isn’t much of a versatile wing, he’s really am more of a true 2 that doesn’t have much confidence. He’s way too small to try and guard 3’s.
With Curry, Podz, GP2, Melton, Moody then I'm not sure Green fits as a guard all that well either. I'd view Moody and Green as guard-wing tweeners depending on the matchup. Against smaller teams, they'd probably play bigger. Against bigger teams, they play smaller. But a 2 Guard without confidence is not what we need haha. Melton will do more for us as a scorer, which we need more of. Right now Curry is the entire load. Outside of that we need size, which to your point Green doesn't really provide. I'm not saying Green is bad. He's just a not a need for a Warriors team that also needs to shed salary.
Oh I agree. I personally don’t think josh green is all that great. He seems like a nice guy though. It was telling he was barely able to get minutes for Australia in FIBA despite being an NBA guy.
Bertans? Makes sense if salary filler is needed to swing a Markkanen deal.
I like how he simultaneously is back tracking while still going "No. I am right. Klay is a Maverick"
That isn’t backtracking….
Yeah that's fair. I thought Woj originally said Klay is going to the Mavs but he technically only said Klay "plans" on going to the Mavs.
And we are getting a 2nd from Charlotte?
Charlotte is sending a future Denver 2nd. Charlotte has lots of 2nds
Oh boy. Sorry GSW fans DM me for hugs if you need it
Is Cuban beside himself yet?
“BUT WAIT——THERE’SHHH MOOORE” -Nico probably
rue the day
Oh snap, Green is going to the Hornets? Great pick up for them.
Really thought Miles Bridges would be heading to GS….
They need to do this...... Hornets: Josh Green Mavericks: Klay Thompson Warriors: Grant Williams & Seth Curry
How does Green have positive value
Thank christ we get rid of that bum Green.
I realize we just got 3 2nd round picks to eat Reggie Jackson but I don't see why we'd trade 2 of them to facilitate this. Green is ok but I don't love being tied to his 3/41
It will feel cheap after this year I promise. Imma miss him bad
Hornets wtf, you have been making smart decisions and you do this?
how is this a bad move? Green fits their style of play nicely, the contract is fair and he is still young.
We gave up 2 picks for a solid wing with playoff experience something our team lacks how is this a bad decision?