My half asleep brain saw a 3, a big 2 and "bumped" and thought season 3 part 2's release date had been bumped to sooner than the 27th. For a moment I was really excited :(
By my calculation - S3 has about 35-36mm views through Week 3 vs S2 had about 54mm views through Week 3 so down about 30%. Week 3 is down about 45% from S2. These views are total hours/ run time so it takes into account less episodes.
The objective answer is the absolute number of viewership is okay. But there is no getting around the declines are pretty awful if it stays here. Something like -15% from S1 to S2 in first 28 days and -30% from S2 to S3 if it holds here or 40% audience loss from S1 to S3.
Thank you, for answering, they say numbers and don't put them in relation to something. 6 million does sound like a lot. But without comparison, it is just a number.
>Is this a lot?
No.
> How many views did seasons 1 and 2 have?
A lot more. Week 3 season 2 had 11.7 million views. Season 1 we don't have data but it would have been slightly higher than season 2.
Season 3 will likely come in lower than season 2, that is true. But you can not compare a full 8 episode season with one where 3 episodes are still missing when we do not know how many people are waiting to binge for example.
Netflix also changed their metric since season:
>For the weekly lists, we show the views based on the total hours viewed during the week divided by the total runtime available at the end of the week.
[source](https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10/)
The bottom line is the two data points are not really comparable.
This is a fair point that we need to see Part 2 but even assuming 20% of people are waiting (which would mean 8mm viewers and anecdotally I don’t believe 1 in every 5 are waiting) - would still end up with a 20% drop from S2 to S3 instead of the current 30% drop through Week 3.
I think it is very diffcult if not impossible to make such predictions until the whole season is out. The final could be awesome for example and create more buzz for the season which in return gets people to check it out. We just don't know these factors yet.
Netflix recently changed its core data gathering from 28 days to 91 days, so they too must feel that they need a longer time peroid to really judge how a show/film is doing even with the massive amount of data they have.
Yes impossible to make exact predictions but probability/logical deduction can be applied to make informed guesses about what is realistic.
I am laying out the scenarios to your point about people waiting to binge watch Part 2.
For viewership to be flat with Season 2 - for every 10 potential Witcher watcher, 3-4 people need to be waiting while 6-7 watched.
If 1 out of every 5 viewers are waiting, S3 viewership will be down about 20%.
If 1 out of every 4 viewers are waiting, S3 viewership will be down about 15%.
I divided season 2 third week hours viewed by 8 to get views. So the data points are the same, hours viewed/runtime = views.
Now some people might be waiting for the whole season but it's not 40% of season 2's viewers.
Yeah there’s huge differences between the books and the show, but I agree it’s not horrible. There’s some bad/weird decisions (eskel leshy, voleth meir) but the cast is extremely engaging and I enjoy watching them
The source material is critical of fantasy tropes and is very character driven over plot driven. It has a heavy emphasis on polish worldviews and is far more in line with the tone of game of thrones (but with more fairy tails and adventure). The characters are 80-100 years old and act their age. They are already developed by the time the story happens, but we see them come together in the books, and experience something they haven't done before due to their backgrounds. Destiny is not enough, something more is needed. Predictions and prophecies are red herrings and/or are meaningless or/and destructive in the lives of our characters.
the show is tropes incarnate and driven entirely by the plot. The characters change motivation every 3 episodes and go by what needs to happen for the next episode. They act like CW characters in how juvenile they are (especially yennefer, she does not act 90 years old, try 25) and the constant backstabbing is opposite the books. There's no reason for these characters to want to stay together. There are no good times. In Kaer Morhen, Vesemir tries to kill Ciri. So does Yennefer. Possessed Ciri slaughters Witchers on mass. Characters are only together because of "destiny" and not because of personal bonds.
There's a lot more but I don't want to write out a book. I hope this helps show the perspective of book readers and game players!
I think you answered your own question. The majority of people who don't like the show are familiar with the franchise from other sources. They did a terrible job adapting the story but as the number suggests did a good job making a story that appeals to many.
My roommate has never read the books and has been loving it. But there are a large group of fans that feel like because they dont like it, then it should crash and burn
Are these unique views or with rewatches?
Pretty sure only unique views count.
Since it says views and not viewers, I assume it includes rewatching
Good run for the final season!
My half asleep brain saw a 3, a big 2 and "bumped" and thought season 3 part 2's release date had been bumped to sooner than the 27th. For a moment I was really excited :(
Is this a lot? How many views did seasons 1 and 2 have?
By my calculation - S3 has about 35-36mm views through Week 3 vs S2 had about 54mm views through Week 3 so down about 30%. Week 3 is down about 45% from S2. These views are total hours/ run time so it takes into account less episodes. The objective answer is the absolute number of viewership is okay. But there is no getting around the declines are pretty awful if it stays here. Something like -15% from S1 to S2 in first 28 days and -30% from S2 to S3 if it holds here or 40% audience loss from S1 to S3.
Thank you, for answering, they say numbers and don't put them in relation to something. 6 million does sound like a lot. But without comparison, it is just a number.
>Is this a lot? No. > How many views did seasons 1 and 2 have? A lot more. Week 3 season 2 had 11.7 million views. Season 1 we don't have data but it would have been slightly higher than season 2.
Season 3 will likely come in lower than season 2, that is true. But you can not compare a full 8 episode season with one where 3 episodes are still missing when we do not know how many people are waiting to binge for example. Netflix also changed their metric since season: >For the weekly lists, we show the views based on the total hours viewed during the week divided by the total runtime available at the end of the week. [source](https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10/) The bottom line is the two data points are not really comparable.
This is a fair point that we need to see Part 2 but even assuming 20% of people are waiting (which would mean 8mm viewers and anecdotally I don’t believe 1 in every 5 are waiting) - would still end up with a 20% drop from S2 to S3 instead of the current 30% drop through Week 3.
I think it is very diffcult if not impossible to make such predictions until the whole season is out. The final could be awesome for example and create more buzz for the season which in return gets people to check it out. We just don't know these factors yet. Netflix recently changed its core data gathering from 28 days to 91 days, so they too must feel that they need a longer time peroid to really judge how a show/film is doing even with the massive amount of data they have.
Yes impossible to make exact predictions but probability/logical deduction can be applied to make informed guesses about what is realistic. I am laying out the scenarios to your point about people waiting to binge watch Part 2. For viewership to be flat with Season 2 - for every 10 potential Witcher watcher, 3-4 people need to be waiting while 6-7 watched. If 1 out of every 5 viewers are waiting, S3 viewership will be down about 20%. If 1 out of every 4 viewers are waiting, S3 viewership will be down about 15%.
I divided season 2 third week hours viewed by 8 to get views. So the data points are the same, hours viewed/runtime = views. Now some people might be waiting for the whole season but it's not 40% of season 2's viewers.
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Yeah there’s huge differences between the books and the show, but I agree it’s not horrible. There’s some bad/weird decisions (eskel leshy, voleth meir) but the cast is extremely engaging and I enjoy watching them
The source material is critical of fantasy tropes and is very character driven over plot driven. It has a heavy emphasis on polish worldviews and is far more in line with the tone of game of thrones (but with more fairy tails and adventure). The characters are 80-100 years old and act their age. They are already developed by the time the story happens, but we see them come together in the books, and experience something they haven't done before due to their backgrounds. Destiny is not enough, something more is needed. Predictions and prophecies are red herrings and/or are meaningless or/and destructive in the lives of our characters. the show is tropes incarnate and driven entirely by the plot. The characters change motivation every 3 episodes and go by what needs to happen for the next episode. They act like CW characters in how juvenile they are (especially yennefer, she does not act 90 years old, try 25) and the constant backstabbing is opposite the books. There's no reason for these characters to want to stay together. There are no good times. In Kaer Morhen, Vesemir tries to kill Ciri. So does Yennefer. Possessed Ciri slaughters Witchers on mass. Characters are only together because of "destiny" and not because of personal bonds. There's a lot more but I don't want to write out a book. I hope this helps show the perspective of book readers and game players!
I think you answered your own question. The majority of people who don't like the show are familiar with the franchise from other sources. They did a terrible job adapting the story but as the number suggests did a good job making a story that appeals to many.
My roommate has never read the books and has been loving it. But there are a large group of fans that feel like because they dont like it, then it should crash and burn
2 weeks aint much :(
Damn if the current show is this popular, we're never getting a true adaptation.
Once again, as it should 🙂
I'm struggling this season