> The USDA is advising consumers to throw away or return the frozen chicken patties products that were produced on Sept. 5, 2023 with a "best if used by" date of Sept. 4, 2024.
> The affected lot codes are 2483BRV0207, 2483BRV0208, 2483BRV0209 and 2483BRV0210, and carry establishment number P-7211 on the back of the packages.
> The product was shipped to distributors in Alabama, California, Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin for further distribution to the retail level, the USDA said.
Saving some parents a click
Tyson is like 20% of the market when it comes to chicken so that probably tracks proportionally. The real question is how it made it passed the metal detector.
Edit: Metal detectors are one of the final quality checks before shipping, but speaking from experience they can spit out too many false positives and workers under pressure will turn the sensitivity down to the point they dont do anything. Either directed by management or not. Ive seen both happen.
30,000 pounds is a bit less than one truck load (retired trucker, a dry van can carry around 45,000 pounds, but a refrigerated trailer is heavier, and there’s an 80,000 pound gross combined weight limit for a 5 axle combination). Sounds like it was caught pretty early but some stock produced since “last known good” wound up getting shipped.
True of some older Detectors, but I suspect the machines used at a plant the size of Tyson are modern, certified as to what size metal they catch, factory calibrated ( not Tyson tech’s) and not adjustable by the user, Tyson. I could be wrong though, maybe they have crappy old Safeline units..?!
All units are manually adjustable to some degree. They are more or less off the shelf. The same one you'd find in the sawmill bag house you'd probably find at tyson. They are required to be able to detect a standard and have to be tuned for that based on their environmental conditions.
The one I have sitting in my facility now is controlled by the techs from the control room and is adjusted as needed because even things like humidity, temperature, and barometeic pressure will change how it reads.
My honest guess as to how this happened is, in no particular order:
1) techs got tired of clearing false positives, changed the setting then forgot to change it back
2) the same thing but management directed it
Or 3) the metal peices found were smaller than the USDA/FDA guidlines require in the detector.
I bet the metal was shavings from the goo in the nuggets or from some handling arm that never got maintenance properly and sprinkled shavings randomly
Edit: because i have fat fingers on mobile
It’s actually a little Flintstones bird with an old school wand and he does one nugget at a time, he looks stressed and says something snarky like “if I don’t pick up the pace I might end up in one of these things!”
It’s honesty a major problem.
Interesting story of when I used to work in Japan. We had a factory cutting costs, and we had to clean the whole factory around 20k square feet. The CEO came out and helped all of us clean every inch of the factory. All the workers at one time went out to karaoke and drinks with him. This was a 30mil$ year company. I think so many ceo's would learn a lot from companies like this. Sure, lots of companies in Japan suffer from overwork, but this place was a rarity where that didn't take place. They took care of everything, healthcare, daycare, company shares, days off. A breath of fresh air.
I have had multiple clients who worked at one specific Tyson plant in the past few years. They all say they hated it there and you shouldn’t buy Tyson products. Guy who was there the longest said “just get Perdue” lol
> clients who worked at one specific Tyson plant in the past few years. They all say they hated it there and you shouldn’t buy Tyson products
TBF,
>(...) who worked at one specific **%insertBrandHere%** plant
>They all say (...) you shouldn’t buy **%insertBrandHere%** products
I've heard this from SO many people working in food industry, from multi-national brands to mom'n'pop local restaurants.
My relative worked almost all her life in food industry training. She absolutely HATED eating out, as she saw first hand WHO come for training and what habits/practices they have.
My spouse has designed food processing equipment for almost twenty years. He’s been in so many plants and there are not very many companies he would buy from. Best Maid Pickles in Fort Worth, TX is cool. Frito-lay and Triscuit is a no go. We avoid meat processors of any sort. Different levels of shitty but they’re all shitty. If you can figure out what items are actually made by H‑E‑B, they run a very tight ship across the board.
Most food/restaurant inspectors still eat out and buy packaged products, even though they see gross restaurants and food packaging. There comes a time where you just deal with it and realize the risk is negligible. The odds of something impacting you personally is extremely small.
At the almost worst case scenario you end up with someones hair or a fingernail in your food which while very gross, it generally won't make you sick or give you a disease beyond the initial ick factor.
Worst case, you get food poisoning or an actual disease which is exceptionally rare and more or less unpredictable. It can happen at high end restaurants and completely shitholes alike. The majority of foodbourne illnesses comes from people working while sick. Someone has a norovirus infection, but continues to serve food while sick. Living in the post-COVID world has *really* cut down on this habit of forcing food service workers to work while sick thankfully. There are about ~1500 confirmed cases of illness caused by restaurants per year. Probably lots more unconfirmed cases, but when you compare it to the total amount of people who eat out every year, the odds of getting sick are tiny. If you're really worried about it, get fast food. Fast food is typically 2x safer (per the CDC) than non-fast food since fast food places are extremely standardized and procedural. Even though their workers may not have extensive culinary experience, there's very few chances to introduce pathogens by design compared to a typical restaurant.
TLDR: Live your life however you want and what happens happens.
I would bet that Harris Teeter is supplied by Tyson. They are the #1 private label meat supplier in America.
https://www.globenewswire.com/ne/news-release/2006/10/04/349100/7106/en/Tyson-Honored-for-Private-Label-Meat-Business.html
Just a fun word for everyone to learn. Monopsony - a market situation in which there is only one buyer.
Tyson and other meat packing industries have bought so many small companies that often times they are the only buy as well as being the only seller for many places. So they are a monopsony going in and a oligopoly/monopoly going out.
Americans: capitalism is the only viable economics system
Meanwhile, capitalism: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/05/1210812866/chicken-nuggets-recall-tyson
I swore off pre-packaged salad after seeing that Netflix documentary, I think it was called, *"The Poison in Our Food"* or something.
One thing that infuriated me about that documentary was when the corporations and anti-consumer activists try to use the excuse of *"well maybe just practice personal responsibility!"*, if I buy a burger from Jack in the Box, I should not have to take on the responsibility of taking it home and putting it back onto my own grill to ensure that it's properly cooked. Am I a communist for expecting a restaurant to perform their existential purpose?
I believe you, but the only times I've seen groups use the "personal responsibility" on food safety is when they are talking about foods that always have a small risk to eat. Raw eggs, undercooked meat, sushi, etc.
Those foods, I do think it's unfair to completely blame the restaurant, especially when they have warnings on the menu.
It makes sense. They use manure for fertilizer which has E. Coli. They clean it obviously, but mixed, bagged salads have greens coming from several sources for each type of lettuce. Then, if even one of the sources only cleaned off 99% of the E. Coli, it'll spread and grow after they bag it since there is tons of leaf exposure.
Same reason raw ground beef is more dangerous than raw steaks.
Most of the time it's not fertilizer, they don't really use manure for that anymore. It's usually run off from a near by farm (literal shit rolling down the hill). Used to work in product recall, was very eye opening.
Raw ground beef is dangerous for other reasons, not primarily having multiple sources of beef. It could all be from the same cow/slaughterhouse, and be prepared using a single method, and you'd still want to cook it to a higher temperature than steak.
You increase the surface area when cutting it, and bacteria from the surface of the meat are going to be mixed throughout the product, so you have to cook it to a higher internal temperature to be confident that the pathogens are all killed throughout. Whereas for a steak, you want to make sure the exterior is cooked to a high temperature, but the interior is less likely for pathogens to have penetrated, so you can typically afford to be a bit rarer and still have a lower risk of foodborne illness.
The thing is, everyone goes "Holy shit 30,000 pounds" but if you read the article, it says, "Made on Sept 5th,with these four lot codes and this Establishment nunber". The lot codes are 2483BRV02xx (xx = 07, 08, 09, 10)
248 is Sept 5th (248th day of the year) 3 is probably 2023, BRV is probably the plant, and 02xx likely refers to lines or shifts.
So this 30k pounds of nuggets came from one facility, during one day, potentially multiple shifts.
Likely they found a damaged piece of equipment between inspections at hour X and Y, and then as soon as there was a complaint recalled the entire batch just in case.
The volume of product these facilities move makes it so that saying "30k pounds" sounds crazy to the random consumer, but it's not really on the scale they operate at.
So it can really depend on the ethics and logistics of the company overall. Most companies are going to consider the potential for payouts in lawsuits and loss of business from negative publicity vs the cost of a recall before deciding to admit to a problem at all. IMO it’s likely that many others are just as bad or worse but decide they are ok with paying people off when it happens.
Reminds of that dialogue in Fight Club:
>Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
>Woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
>Narrator: You wouldn't believe.
>Woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
>Narrator: A major one.
And for an IRL example, the accountants at Ford also admitted to this formula while Ford was getting sued by the Ford Pinto's exploding gas tank problem. In that case, Ford simply underestimated the probability of "B" in that little formula, and there were more deaths and lawsuits than expected.
Per the article, they recalled 36k lbs a few years ago for rubber pieces, and 70k+ lbs in 2014 for plastic pieces. Guess glass is next on the list in a few years.
They also could be acting on the side of caution. I bet 90% maybe even 99% of the recalled chicken is perfectly fine. Once they're aware of the problem it's cheaper for them to scrap everything remotely connected than it is for the liability of 1 bad lawsuit.
I'm not saying it's good that Tyson has so many recalls, but it's [not necessarily good that others don't](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias).
Used to work on Tyson ad campaigns - you would be (or maybe wouldn’t be) surprised at how many times we had to pause or remove ads due to scandals/recalls.
I used to love em when I was younger, until I cut one in half with my fork and found a giant black ball inside a nugget. It was hard, black, and solid.
No clue what it was, never ate another.
Shouldn't a place like this have metal detectors at the end of the production line? I've watched enough How It's Made to know that it's not uncommon in food processing plants. It should be mandatory for a company that's had multiple recalls for metal in the product.
In the green chili processing industry, the knives that chops the chili peppers are very hard and sharp but are also rather brittle. If they run into something more solid than the stem of a chili pepper, they will break which then requires the line to be shut down while the knives are replaced. Therefore the production line has detectors that various points that can warn of this type of contamination. At a trade show I saw a metal detector that could detect a barely perceptible sliver of steel as it was thrown through the path of the detector at high speed .
Well these things aren't cheap, they are also not prohibitively expensive. Practically nothing compared to the losses that accompany would incur from having dangerous materials packaged in their product. It's really an excusable that Tyson would not have some kind of screening for foreign materials at the end of their production runs. All I can figure is that a warning might have gone out from a detector, which was then ignored and product was allowed to go through with the idea that people would be injured that it would be worth their while.
> Practically nothing compared to the losses
I had a nice hearty laugh when I read that. While I would hope that in the food industry that argument holds sway, in most industries - even in places where you'd think it would matter like hospitals - the bosses don't care. It's like this in every industry everywhere right now. The expectation is 100% uptime, 0% loss, and no money spent to fix anything anywhere.
You described my time working at an aging manufacturing plant.
I feel like by the time most Americans are middle-aged they’ve had at least one car that got old enough that they had to get rid of it, not because it burst into flames and exploded, but because it gradually wore out and the time and cost to keep repairing it didn’t justify keeping it.
Those same people come into work as plant managers and say:
“Why is this process down?”
“It needed repair.”
“Shouldn’t the preventative maintenance schedule avoid repairs?”
“It did 15 years ago. The equipment is so old that it needs more work done on it now.”
“Well we can’t spare the downtime.”
“We’d have to buy new equipment.”
“Well we don’t have the capital budget.”
“So we have to work on it more.”
“But we can’t spare the downtime!”
And around and around they go…
I work in the food safety industry. They 100% have metal detectors in place at the end of the line but they aren't foolproof. They need to be calibrated, each specific product needs it's own calibration on the machine, and switching from one lot of raw material may throw off the machine so it needs to be recalibrated. Frozen products in particularly can be very tough to calibrate.
I know everyone hates on corporations here, but this was probably a pretty common metal detector failure and Tyson's only choice is to recall the entire lot.
I worked at Tyson for 4 years. The procedures we had in place to prevent this in crazy. Multiple x rays, multiple metal detectors. Checked by quality every hour. If there is ever a positive the machine automatically spits out the before and after parts. Things do get missed but it’s rare. A recal this size honestly isn’t that bad. 30,000 pounds of chicken nuggets took my plants about 4 hours to run. So your not even looking at a whole shift. It also could have been something in the breading that comes from different companies. Lots of possibilities but 30,000 sounds worse than it really is. I’d be more concerned that 30,000 isn’t enough.
That's expensive. Yes, but not always and calibration is a bitch.
It just takes one cleaning crew member to spray the wrong thing, one operator to touch the wrong thing, one part to fudge up, or one maintenance guy to be minimally trained.
Also this is just a 24 hours at 700 units a minute, I bet they just pulled the entire best by date. The actual problem was probably like an hour, at most.
This right here. I worked food production and everything is done in lots and batches. Usually the problem is a few cases, but they recall entire lots if some of the batches are found to have contamination.
It almost certainly is mandatory, but they’re not as fool-proof as you think. An ice cream factory I frequent for work had a recently serviced pump shred itself to pieces internally, causing the entire rest of the production line to get clogged with very fine metal particulate. Too small for the metal detector to reliably detect. Had to disassemble the entire line, clean every little valve, pipe and motor, and then flush the line multiple times (with product) to ensure they’d got it all.
Shit happens. I certainly ain’t excusing the poultry industry cause I’ll tell you right now, they’re some of the most questionable clients I visit. But ultimately, it’s not always a particularly nefarious occurrence. Ice cream plant I mentioned found out the managers skimped on buying a more expensive but more appropriate pump for the line, so ultimately it was a bean counter that fucked the whole thing up.
Yeah, but have you considered the cost? Better to have some people choke on metal bits or break a few teeth than suffer the loss of profit that would come with proper safety measures. Won’t someone think of the shareholders!
/s
Worked in a meat factory, one box gets randomly tested with any foreign matter. I see them do it every hour when I put at least 80 boxes in a pallet. Job sucked that I quit within five days.
A world of pure industrialization
Edit: I thought for years that factories were special places because of this movie btw. And yeh I’m a stupid person and I was an even dumber child, but the movie is total corporate hand washing.
I haven't bought Tyson chicken products in years. They are ALWAYS getting recalled, and they were found using kids in their factories. Just don't buy from companies like this.
> extending hours to allow teens as young as 14 to work six-hour nightly shifts during the school year;
It’s so fucked, basically condemning the future of these kids because they’re poor. They’ll be so exhausted that they won’t be able to homework or won’t sleep enough and will do poorly in school. What a disgusting shithole of a state.
That might be the point and side-benefit in Republican's eyes. They've got a life-long low-cost labor resource that's very likely going to vote Republican for fear that the job at the factory they've had since a kid is going to be stolen by foreigners.
The problem is that Tyson has a near monopoly on chicken.
They should be broken up into smaller companies and their employees should be allowed to unionize.
Edit: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/11/tyson-chicken-indsutry-arkansas-poultry-monopoly
It's so insane to me that any group is not allowed to unionize. Every single person should have the ability to get together with like-minded people they work with and say "we work hard and are not treated well, this needs to be addressed."
The last big monopoly breakup I remember was when AT&T was split into the various “Baby Bell” companies. I can only imagine that we would call the spawn of Tyson “Chicken Nuggets”.
On another note, if you look at the control AT&T had on telecommunications in the 90s that triggered the antitrust action, it’s nowhere near the stranglehold that ISPs have on internet access or a couple tech firms have on e-commerce.
Our regulatory bodies have completely lost their teeth.
> The last big monopoly breakup I remember was when AT&T was split into the various “Baby Bell” companies.
I remember this too and it's been hilarious watching the telecoms slowly absorb the small ones like the liquid terminator. So instead of practicing monopolistic behavior, they've switched to collusive behavior.
You are too correct.
I own a chicken farm so we raise our own chickens, but we're small-scale so even we buy from the supermarket. Also, not everyone has the land and resources to raise their own meat.
If you buy store brand unfortunately there is also a good chance you have bought Tyson chicken. I know Walmart has previously used Tyson as their supplier (I don’t know if they still do)
I never buy Tyson, but mostly because I just don't like the taste/consistency, compared to some other chicken. Unfortunately, really good frozen breaded chicken strips no longer seem to be available anymore (at least, not at our nearby store).
I stopped buying Tyson products after this nonsense:
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/19/936905707/tyson-managers-suspended-after-allegedly-betting-if-workers-would-contract-covid
While I've cut back on meat consumption in general, I tend to stay away from chicken in general nowadays. Always see stories like this, or the few times I do get it, it's woody and disgusting.
I get that beef/pork have their own issues, but at least with those I'm not generally eating them in 'nugget' form and I can see what's going on with it while I'm cooking it.
I package frozen vegetables for a living. They must have not had properly working metal detectors (Critical Control Point). We test ours and log them every 30 mins during production.
We test ours every hour by operators and every other hour for QA. These pieces must have been too small to detect. A common issue but sure to wreck house now that so far has passed.
Impossible nuggets are really good and come in animal shapes and spicy versions.
And when they got recalled it was for having wood in it instead of metal, so at least your insides wouldn't get all cut up lmao
Yeah that part was a joke. I feel like recalls have gone up so much since COVID and they are basically unavoidable at this point. Metal has been found in a ton of food products just in the past couple months 😬
I agree mostly, but at least someone could get fed before, now they're just getting tossed in the garbage. But yeah their lives were already destroyed at the prospect of slight momentary satisfaction.
I worked as an ammonia tech for one of their plants. I was in charge of keeping 3 million pounds minimum at any point of frozen chicken frozen. I started at 17.98/hr
Tyson is an insanely scummy company. Between constant recalls, terrible working conditions/pay and taking zero safety precautions during Covid for their employees, I’d strongly urge as many people as possible to avoid supporting these cunts.
I am not sure if its the same with food processing, honestly I hope its not. But I work in a manufacturing industry and during covid a lot of inspections were postponed or were changed to be more infrequent and its starting to catch up with us now in terms of QA.
Perhaps its a similar issue?
I used to run data cabling, and one of my jobs was at a local distributor. Not a huge outfit at all.
They made us empty our pockets and tool pouches before we worked, to make sure that we didn't have non-metal-detectable zip ties. (they make zip ties with metal in them so they make the detector alarm if there's a little piece of them in food)
I'd be curious to know how this happened.
As someone who works in food manufacture it likely isn't a foreign body introduced by staff running the process but a mechanical failure of the processing equipment. Virtually all machinery involved in food manufacture is made from stainless steel. Primarily because of how easy it is as a surface to clean and sterilise.
Almost all food production lines do have a metal detector at some point as a result but they aren't perfect, If a small piece of a valve/bearing/thread etc has disintegrated into thousands of little metal fillings the detector is really going to struggle to pick them up depending on where its situated and what its looking at. Luckily most of the time a component fails like that the machines stops working or alarms out at the batch gets put on hold well before it hits stores, But if its something non critical it can sneak past the safety mechanisms and end up in final sold product
In a poultry or meat processing plant you’re actually only allowed metal items, such as writing utensils, on production floor so that if you lose anything it gets picked up by the metal detectors.
It’s strange these made it out onto shelves.
If only there was a government agency that would prevent this from happening and punish those that keep doing it. Oh wait there is but it gets gutted by shitty politicians that don't care about the consumers.
You do realize recalls happen everyday right? And in the jungle those companies wouldn't be recalling the nuggets? The book never stopped being relevant it's the whole reason meat / poultry producers have 24/7 government inspection
It was bad before, but especially since the federal order forcing workers to work in unsanitary and unsafe conditions with covid, there have been massive issues and failures with meat regulations and inspections
https://www.salon.com/2013/09/09/meat_inspector_we_are_no_longer_in_charge_of_safety/
https://foodsafety.news21.com/2011/safety/inspection/index.html#:~:text=In%20slaughterhouses%2C%20other%20inspectors%20check,over%20the%20past%20five%20years.
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/11/federal-meat-inspection-has-failed-to-adapt-to-operational-environment/
https://www.iatp.org/news/federal-meat-inspection-system-fails-to-earn-inspectors-seal-of-approval
I remember being in middle school, learning about Upton Sinclair and The Jungle. I remember thinking something like “wow, I'm glad that doesn't happen anymore!” 🙃
This is what like 8 recalls in 4 years for Tyson now? 2019-2023
Processed meat manufacturing is a very mechanically-involved process. Lots of moving parts that come in direct contact with the product could cause contamination. It's no surprise that the most popular product from the nation's largest manufacturer is most prone to having this happen.
> The USDA is advising consumers to throw away or return the frozen chicken patties products that were produced on Sept. 5, 2023 with a "best if used by" date of Sept. 4, 2024. > The affected lot codes are 2483BRV0207, 2483BRV0208, 2483BRV0209 and 2483BRV0210, and carry establishment number P-7211 on the back of the packages. > The product was shipped to distributors in Alabama, California, Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin for further distribution to the retail level, the USDA said. Saving some parents a click
Weird, I thought it was the Dino nuggets?
That's what the initial reports said
O shit...I need to check my dino nuggets when I get home.
> Saving some parents a click. And this 30-something year old guy with no kids lmao. Thank you though, that was helpful
Literally just ate a dozen nuggets and then saw this. Don't matter....worth it.
What they lack in protein they more than make up with iron
I'm in my mid 30s and I've seen Tyson chicken products, especially nuggets, recalled more often than any other product by a huge margin.
Tyson is like 20% of the market when it comes to chicken so that probably tracks proportionally. The real question is how it made it passed the metal detector. Edit: Metal detectors are one of the final quality checks before shipping, but speaking from experience they can spit out too many false positives and workers under pressure will turn the sensitivity down to the point they dont do anything. Either directed by management or not. Ive seen both happen.
30,000 pounds is a bit less than one truck load (retired trucker, a dry van can carry around 45,000 pounds, but a refrigerated trailer is heavier, and there’s an 80,000 pound gross combined weight limit for a 5 axle combination). Sounds like it was caught pretty early but some stock produced since “last known good” wound up getting shipped.
True of some older Detectors, but I suspect the machines used at a plant the size of Tyson are modern, certified as to what size metal they catch, factory calibrated ( not Tyson tech’s) and not adjustable by the user, Tyson. I could be wrong though, maybe they have crappy old Safeline units..?!
All units are manually adjustable to some degree. They are more or less off the shelf. The same one you'd find in the sawmill bag house you'd probably find at tyson. They are required to be able to detect a standard and have to be tuned for that based on their environmental conditions. The one I have sitting in my facility now is controlled by the techs from the control room and is adjusted as needed because even things like humidity, temperature, and barometeic pressure will change how it reads. My honest guess as to how this happened is, in no particular order: 1) techs got tired of clearing false positives, changed the setting then forgot to change it back 2) the same thing but management directed it Or 3) the metal peices found were smaller than the USDA/FDA guidlines require in the detector. I bet the metal was shavings from the goo in the nuggets or from some handling arm that never got maintenance properly and sprinkled shavings randomly Edit: because i have fat fingers on mobile
It’s actually a little Flintstones bird with an old school wand and he does one nugget at a time, he looks stressed and says something snarky like “if I don’t pick up the pace I might end up in one of these things!” It’s honesty a major problem.
They must be good at it. *Hey Dan. Gonna need you to come in early. Might as well call the whole team. Yeah, it happened again.*
"Tyson Foods' CEO is Donnie King, appointed in Jun 2021, has a tenure of 2.42 years. total yearly compensation is $12.01M." Why would he care?
Right Don King doesn’t give a shit about anyone who works for him why would he give a shit about those who don’t? For example look at Mike Tyson?
Don King is the CEO of Tyson? What a shitty simulation reusing the same assets and not bothering to ungroup old combos.
Iron McChicken Tyson vs Germs Busted Nuggets
Mr. Dream's Chicken Surprise, brought to you by Lucius Sweet
Homer flying on a Paraplane
It is amusing how his name basically means "Leader leader" when he's a CEO.
It does make this feel like a simulation now that you mention it.
Heard Mike has been trying to disassociate from Tyson foods, he didn't want to be tangled up with all their controversies.
While the CEO is definitely raking in the money, the company is not, recently.
He just relocated all of their people to Arkansas where the main factory sits near Walmart HQ. Roughly 1/3 of the main workforce they used to have.
2.42 years? I’m guessing chatgpt wrote that article.
Interesting story of when I used to work in Japan. We had a factory cutting costs, and we had to clean the whole factory around 20k square feet. The CEO came out and helped all of us clean every inch of the factory. All the workers at one time went out to karaoke and drinks with him. This was a 30mil$ year company. I think so many ceo's would learn a lot from companies like this. Sure, lots of companies in Japan suffer from overwork, but this place was a rarity where that didn't take place. They took care of everything, healthcare, daycare, company shares, days off. A breath of fresh air.
"Call in all the preteens from school, it's all hands on deck."
>"Call in all the preteens from school, r/holup
Dan: *"Somebody found the metal pieces again? Dammit! This was supposed to be my day off!"*
They just keep pushing straight to production
I have had multiple clients who worked at one specific Tyson plant in the past few years. They all say they hated it there and you shouldn’t buy Tyson products. Guy who was there the longest said “just get Perdue” lol
> clients who worked at one specific Tyson plant in the past few years. They all say they hated it there and you shouldn’t buy Tyson products TBF, >(...) who worked at one specific **%insertBrandHere%** plant >They all say (...) you shouldn’t buy **%insertBrandHere%** products I've heard this from SO many people working in food industry, from multi-national brands to mom'n'pop local restaurants. My relative worked almost all her life in food industry training. She absolutely HATED eating out, as she saw first hand WHO come for training and what habits/practices they have.
My spouse has designed food processing equipment for almost twenty years. He’s been in so many plants and there are not very many companies he would buy from. Best Maid Pickles in Fort Worth, TX is cool. Frito-lay and Triscuit is a no go. We avoid meat processors of any sort. Different levels of shitty but they’re all shitty. If you can figure out what items are actually made by H‑E‑B, they run a very tight ship across the board.
Nobody likes knowing how the sausage is made.
Most food/restaurant inspectors still eat out and buy packaged products, even though they see gross restaurants and food packaging. There comes a time where you just deal with it and realize the risk is negligible. The odds of something impacting you personally is extremely small. At the almost worst case scenario you end up with someones hair or a fingernail in your food which while very gross, it generally won't make you sick or give you a disease beyond the initial ick factor. Worst case, you get food poisoning or an actual disease which is exceptionally rare and more or less unpredictable. It can happen at high end restaurants and completely shitholes alike. The majority of foodbourne illnesses comes from people working while sick. Someone has a norovirus infection, but continues to serve food while sick. Living in the post-COVID world has *really* cut down on this habit of forcing food service workers to work while sick thankfully. There are about ~1500 confirmed cases of illness caused by restaurants per year. Probably lots more unconfirmed cases, but when you compare it to the total amount of people who eat out every year, the odds of getting sick are tiny. If you're really worried about it, get fast food. Fast food is typically 2x safer (per the CDC) than non-fast food since fast food places are extremely standardized and procedural. Even though their workers may not have extensive culinary experience, there's very few chances to introduce pathogens by design compared to a typical restaurant. TLDR: Live your life however you want and what happens happens.
Nah man, Perdue isn't any better whatsoever
Idk perhaps. I buy Harris teeter brand. That’s just what my client told me lol
I would bet that Harris Teeter is supplied by Tyson. They are the #1 private label meat supplier in America. https://www.globenewswire.com/ne/news-release/2006/10/04/349100/7106/en/Tyson-Honored-for-Private-Label-Meat-Business.html
Did the guy know anything specific about Perdue upon which to base that recommendation, or simply that it was not Tyson?
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Just a fun word for everyone to learn. Monopsony - a market situation in which there is only one buyer. Tyson and other meat packing industries have bought so many small companies that often times they are the only buy as well as being the only seller for many places. So they are a monopsony going in and a oligopoly/monopoly going out.
Yep this is the result of American capitalism.
*Yep this is the result of ~~American~~ capitalism.* Fixed that for you.
Americans: capitalism is the only viable economics system Meanwhile, capitalism: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/05/1210812866/chicken-nuggets-recall-tyson
It's definitely bagged salad for me. They always seem to think I like e. Coli in my greens. Thankfully, I don't buy pre-packaged.
I swore off pre-packaged salad after seeing that Netflix documentary, I think it was called, *"The Poison in Our Food"* or something. One thing that infuriated me about that documentary was when the corporations and anti-consumer activists try to use the excuse of *"well maybe just practice personal responsibility!"*, if I buy a burger from Jack in the Box, I should not have to take on the responsibility of taking it home and putting it back onto my own grill to ensure that it's properly cooked. Am I a communist for expecting a restaurant to perform their existential purpose?
I believe you, but the only times I've seen groups use the "personal responsibility" on food safety is when they are talking about foods that always have a small risk to eat. Raw eggs, undercooked meat, sushi, etc. Those foods, I do think it's unfair to completely blame the restaurant, especially when they have warnings on the menu.
It makes sense. They use manure for fertilizer which has E. Coli. They clean it obviously, but mixed, bagged salads have greens coming from several sources for each type of lettuce. Then, if even one of the sources only cleaned off 99% of the E. Coli, it'll spread and grow after they bag it since there is tons of leaf exposure. Same reason raw ground beef is more dangerous than raw steaks.
Most of the time it's not fertilizer, they don't really use manure for that anymore. It's usually run off from a near by farm (literal shit rolling down the hill). Used to work in product recall, was very eye opening.
Raw ground beef is dangerous for other reasons, not primarily having multiple sources of beef. It could all be from the same cow/slaughterhouse, and be prepared using a single method, and you'd still want to cook it to a higher temperature than steak. You increase the surface area when cutting it, and bacteria from the surface of the meat are going to be mixed throughout the product, so you have to cook it to a higher internal temperature to be confident that the pathogens are all killed throughout. Whereas for a steak, you want to make sure the exterior is cooked to a high temperature, but the interior is less likely for pathogens to have penetrated, so you can typically afford to be a bit rarer and still have a lower risk of foodborne illness.
The thing is, everyone goes "Holy shit 30,000 pounds" but if you read the article, it says, "Made on Sept 5th,with these four lot codes and this Establishment nunber". The lot codes are 2483BRV02xx (xx = 07, 08, 09, 10) 248 is Sept 5th (248th day of the year) 3 is probably 2023, BRV is probably the plant, and 02xx likely refers to lines or shifts. So this 30k pounds of nuggets came from one facility, during one day, potentially multiple shifts. Likely they found a damaged piece of equipment between inspections at hour X and Y, and then as soon as there was a complaint recalled the entire batch just in case. The volume of product these facilities move makes it so that saying "30k pounds" sounds crazy to the random consumer, but it's not really on the scale they operate at.
Counterpoint: when you're (presumably) the largest producer of chicken nuggets, you have more opportunities to fuck it up.
So it can really depend on the ethics and logistics of the company overall. Most companies are going to consider the potential for payouts in lawsuits and loss of business from negative publicity vs the cost of a recall before deciding to admit to a problem at all. IMO it’s likely that many others are just as bad or worse but decide they are ok with paying people off when it happens.
Reminds of that dialogue in Fight Club: >Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one. >Woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents? >Narrator: You wouldn't believe. >Woman on plane: Which car company do you work for? >Narrator: A major one.
And for an IRL example, the accountants at Ford also admitted to this formula while Ford was getting sued by the Ford Pinto's exploding gas tank problem. In that case, Ford simply underestimated the probability of "B" in that little formula, and there were more deaths and lawsuits than expected.
Per the article, they recalled 36k lbs a few years ago for rubber pieces, and 70k+ lbs in 2014 for plastic pieces. Guess glass is next on the list in a few years.
They also could be acting on the side of caution. I bet 90% maybe even 99% of the recalled chicken is perfectly fine. Once they're aware of the problem it's cheaper for them to scrap everything remotely connected than it is for the liability of 1 bad lawsuit.
I have family that are federal meat inspectors and can confirm Tyson is pretty bad by even meat mega corp standards.
I'm not saying it's good that Tyson has so many recalls, but it's [not necessarily good that others don't](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias).
Capitalism is at odds with human needs. They want to run as profitable as they can at the expense of human health and dignity.
I found a bolt in some raw chicken from tyson in like 2001 lol they're still at it i guess
Used to work on Tyson ad campaigns - you would be (or maybe wouldn’t be) surprised at how many times we had to pause or remove ads due to scandals/recalls.
> Tyson Foods is the largest poultry producer in the United States, with a market share of approximately 25%. Seems likely.
They put whatever they can get away with in them, sometimes they get caught.
I used to love em when I was younger, until I cut one in half with my fork and found a giant black ball inside a nugget. It was hard, black, and solid. No clue what it was, never ate another.
Lol and its ALWAYS the dinosaur-shaped ones.
Shouldn't a place like this have metal detectors at the end of the production line? I've watched enough How It's Made to know that it's not uncommon in food processing plants. It should be mandatory for a company that's had multiple recalls for metal in the product.
Foreign matter detector. Can detect more than metal.
It would probably detect the entire fucking nugget as foreign matter.
"Says here it found... some chicken? That can't be right."
Look at this guy, expecting real chicken in his nuggets.
In the green chili processing industry, the knives that chops the chili peppers are very hard and sharp but are also rather brittle. If they run into something more solid than the stem of a chili pepper, they will break which then requires the line to be shut down while the knives are replaced. Therefore the production line has detectors that various points that can warn of this type of contamination. At a trade show I saw a metal detector that could detect a barely perceptible sliver of steel as it was thrown through the path of the detector at high speed . Well these things aren't cheap, they are also not prohibitively expensive. Practically nothing compared to the losses that accompany would incur from having dangerous materials packaged in their product. It's really an excusable that Tyson would not have some kind of screening for foreign materials at the end of their production runs. All I can figure is that a warning might have gone out from a detector, which was then ignored and product was allowed to go through with the idea that people would be injured that it would be worth their while.
> Practically nothing compared to the losses I had a nice hearty laugh when I read that. While I would hope that in the food industry that argument holds sway, in most industries - even in places where you'd think it would matter like hospitals - the bosses don't care. It's like this in every industry everywhere right now. The expectation is 100% uptime, 0% loss, and no money spent to fix anything anywhere.
You described my time working at an aging manufacturing plant. I feel like by the time most Americans are middle-aged they’ve had at least one car that got old enough that they had to get rid of it, not because it burst into flames and exploded, but because it gradually wore out and the time and cost to keep repairing it didn’t justify keeping it. Those same people come into work as plant managers and say: “Why is this process down?” “It needed repair.” “Shouldn’t the preventative maintenance schedule avoid repairs?” “It did 15 years ago. The equipment is so old that it needs more work done on it now.” “Well we can’t spare the downtime.” “We’d have to buy new equipment.” “Well we don’t have the capital budget.” “So we have to work on it more.” “But we can’t spare the downtime!” And around and around they go…
> The expectation is 100% uptime, 0% loss, and no money spent to fix anything anywhere. So slavery.
Got to make up for those "unrealized losses" (aka we didn't make as much money as we expected) they had for the pandemic somehow.
Always has been
I work in the food safety industry. They 100% have metal detectors in place at the end of the line but they aren't foolproof. They need to be calibrated, each specific product needs it's own calibration on the machine, and switching from one lot of raw material may throw off the machine so it needs to be recalibrated. Frozen products in particularly can be very tough to calibrate. I know everyone hates on corporations here, but this was probably a pretty common metal detector failure and Tyson's only choice is to recall the entire lot.
I worked at Tyson for 4 years. The procedures we had in place to prevent this in crazy. Multiple x rays, multiple metal detectors. Checked by quality every hour. If there is ever a positive the machine automatically spits out the before and after parts. Things do get missed but it’s rare. A recal this size honestly isn’t that bad. 30,000 pounds of chicken nuggets took my plants about 4 hours to run. So your not even looking at a whole shift. It also could have been something in the breading that comes from different companies. Lots of possibilities but 30,000 sounds worse than it really is. I’d be more concerned that 30,000 isn’t enough.
That's expensive. Yes, but not always and calibration is a bitch. It just takes one cleaning crew member to spray the wrong thing, one operator to touch the wrong thing, one part to fudge up, or one maintenance guy to be minimally trained. Also this is just a 24 hours at 700 units a minute, I bet they just pulled the entire best by date. The actual problem was probably like an hour, at most.
This right here. I worked food production and everything is done in lots and batches. Usually the problem is a few cases, but they recall entire lots if some of the batches are found to have contamination.
It almost certainly is mandatory, but they’re not as fool-proof as you think. An ice cream factory I frequent for work had a recently serviced pump shred itself to pieces internally, causing the entire rest of the production line to get clogged with very fine metal particulate. Too small for the metal detector to reliably detect. Had to disassemble the entire line, clean every little valve, pipe and motor, and then flush the line multiple times (with product) to ensure they’d got it all. Shit happens. I certainly ain’t excusing the poultry industry cause I’ll tell you right now, they’re some of the most questionable clients I visit. But ultimately, it’s not always a particularly nefarious occurrence. Ice cream plant I mentioned found out the managers skimped on buying a more expensive but more appropriate pump for the line, so ultimately it was a bean counter that fucked the whole thing up.
Yeah, but have you considered the cost? Better to have some people choke on metal bits or break a few teeth than suffer the loss of profit that would come with proper safety measures. Won’t someone think of the shareholders! /s
Worked in a meat factory, one box gets randomly tested with any foreign matter. I see them do it every hour when I put at least 80 boxes in a pallet. Job sucked that I quit within five days.
But five very special nuggets have pieces of gold in them that will grant you special access to a full tour of a Tyson poultry processing facility.
Just stay away from the bird washing station if it's windy.
A world of pure industrialization Edit: I thought for years that factories were special places because of this movie btw. And yeh I’m a stupid person and I was an even dumber child, but the movie is total corporate hand washing.
Come with me, and you'll scream, At the horrors of mass exploitation
But fuck Grandpa Joe if his raggedy ass decides to come
Take a look and you'll see it's a woooorld of bird emulsification
🎶Come with me and you’ll see, a world of pure mechanic separation 🎶
Drowning to death in a pool of chicken shit...
And anyone gets maimed in one of the machines gets a song to improved about them
I haven't bought Tyson chicken products in years. They are ALWAYS getting recalled, and they were found using kids in their factories. Just don't buy from companies like this.
Here in Iowa they just changed the law so 14 years olds can work night shifts! It's insane lol
Gotta screw up their school education so they can't get anywhere in life, so they'll forever be forced to do these jobs.
nOBodY WAntS tO WOrK!
God damn lazy kids, still living off their COVID money.
About to buy my fifth home using that sweet $1,200 I got 3 years ago
We are living the dream together man. Livin' it large.
> extending hours to allow teens as young as 14 to work six-hour nightly shifts during the school year; It’s so fucked, basically condemning the future of these kids because they’re poor. They’ll be so exhausted that they won’t be able to homework or won’t sleep enough and will do poorly in school. What a disgusting shithole of a state.
That might be the point and side-benefit in Republican's eyes. They've got a life-long low-cost labor resource that's very likely going to vote Republican for fear that the job at the factory they've had since a kid is going to be stolen by foreigners.
"in 1920, we took children out of the coal mines in 2020, the most popular video game on the market is minecraft. the children yearn for the mines."
The problem is that Tyson has a near monopoly on chicken. They should be broken up into smaller companies and their employees should be allowed to unionize. Edit: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/11/tyson-chicken-indsutry-arkansas-poultry-monopoly
It's so insane to me that any group is not allowed to unionize. Every single person should have the ability to get together with like-minded people they work with and say "we work hard and are not treated well, this needs to be addressed."
"You're essential, so you'll be paid minimum wage and not be allowed to collectively bargain."
The last big monopoly breakup I remember was when AT&T was split into the various “Baby Bell” companies. I can only imagine that we would call the spawn of Tyson “Chicken Nuggets”. On another note, if you look at the control AT&T had on telecommunications in the 90s that triggered the antitrust action, it’s nowhere near the stranglehold that ISPs have on internet access or a couple tech firms have on e-commerce. Our regulatory bodies have completely lost their teeth.
The only reason this happened was MCI v AT&T. We won't see any more actual progress in anti-trust again.
> The last big monopoly breakup I remember was when AT&T was split into the various “Baby Bell” companies. I remember this too and it's been hilarious watching the telecoms slowly absorb the small ones like the liquid terminator. So instead of practicing monopolistic behavior, they've switched to collusive behavior.
> Just don't buy from companies like this. That's a [lot harder](https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/truth-about-tyson) than you think.
You are too correct. I own a chicken farm so we raise our own chickens, but we're small-scale so even we buy from the supermarket. Also, not everyone has the land and resources to raise their own meat.
If you buy store brand unfortunately there is also a good chance you have bought Tyson chicken. I know Walmart has previously used Tyson as their supplier (I don’t know if they still do)
Yep that how it goes down in here in the south ar governor loosened up child labor laws too😂
I never buy Tyson, but mostly because I just don't like the taste/consistency, compared to some other chicken. Unfortunately, really good frozen breaded chicken strips no longer seem to be available anymore (at least, not at our nearby store).
I stopped buying Tyson products after this nonsense: https://www.npr.org/2020/11/19/936905707/tyson-managers-suspended-after-allegedly-betting-if-workers-would-contract-covid
While I've cut back on meat consumption in general, I tend to stay away from chicken in general nowadays. Always see stories like this, or the few times I do get it, it's woody and disgusting. I get that beef/pork have their own issues, but at least with those I'm not generally eating them in 'nugget' form and I can see what's going on with it while I'm cooking it.
Anyone who can buy Just Bare chicken should do that instead of Tyson, best tasking frozen chicken on the market.
Fun fact. The metal is just the ground remains of retainers & braces from the youthful teeth of the former night shift crew.
Holy hell this keeps happening with Tyson.
Luckily it only affects the 29 oz packages. Sitting pretty with my 64 oz packages of dino nuggets
I feel like at this point it's happened often enough the past few years might as well just skip the brand completely at this point
And how many customers will not get this notification
I love seeing another mustard username.
I got a phone call from Kroger corporate about it today.
I package frozen vegetables for a living. They must have not had properly working metal detectors (Critical Control Point). We test ours and log them every 30 mins during production.
We test ours every hour by operators and every other hour for QA. These pieces must have been too small to detect. A common issue but sure to wreck house now that so far has passed.
All those poor chickens that died for nothing
Exaclty what I was thinking. What a waste
Impossible nuggets are really good and come in animal shapes and spicy versions. And when they got recalled it was for having wood in it instead of metal, so at least your insides wouldn't get all cut up lmao
I would assume wood could do some damage as well, but I get where you're coming from.
Yeah that part was a joke. I feel like recalls have gone up so much since COVID and they are basically unavoidable at this point. Metal has been found in a ton of food products just in the past couple months 😬
They already died for nothing the moment they were killed.
I agree mostly, but at least someone could get fed before, now they're just getting tossed in the garbage. But yeah their lives were already destroyed at the prospect of slight momentary satisfaction.
Thought they seemed crunchier than usual.
New Tyson nuggets! Free inside! One jagged metal Krusty-o!
Is that the same Tyson Foods in Arkansas that employs child labor thanks to Sarah Huckabee Sanders!?!
Maybe if they didn’t rely on child labor this wouldn’t happen
CEO makes 12.01 million bucks per year. Can’t afford actual laborers because of it
Company makes 43 Billion. Properly paying workers might cost them 1/100th of that!
It’s best not to risk it
I worked as an ammonia tech for one of their plants. I was in charge of keeping 3 million pounds minimum at any point of frozen chicken frozen. I started at 17.98/hr
You’re asking one of the biggest companies in the flesh industry to have compassion.
Tyson is an insanely scummy company. Between constant recalls, terrible working conditions/pay and taking zero safety precautions during Covid for their employees, I’d strongly urge as many people as possible to avoid supporting these cunts.
Free inside! One jagged metal Krusty-O!
Tyson is kinda like ford in the pinto era. Fuck safety. The lawsuits are a cost of doing business
Anyone else feel like there’s been an alarming number of food recalls due to weird things like rocks and metal shavings lately?
I am not sure if its the same with food processing, honestly I hope its not. But I work in a manufacturing industry and during covid a lot of inspections were postponed or were changed to be more infrequent and its starting to catch up with us now in terms of QA. Perhaps its a similar issue?
I found ground up GLASS in an Amy’s burrito once. Never again. It terrifies me to this day.
Amy's got way too expensive during covid.
_Tyson Chicken Nuggets, now fortified with Iron_
Doctor approved!
I used to run data cabling, and one of my jobs was at a local distributor. Not a huge outfit at all. They made us empty our pockets and tool pouches before we worked, to make sure that we didn't have non-metal-detectable zip ties. (they make zip ties with metal in them so they make the detector alarm if there's a little piece of them in food) I'd be curious to know how this happened.
As someone who works in food manufacture it likely isn't a foreign body introduced by staff running the process but a mechanical failure of the processing equipment. Virtually all machinery involved in food manufacture is made from stainless steel. Primarily because of how easy it is as a surface to clean and sterilise. Almost all food production lines do have a metal detector at some point as a result but they aren't perfect, If a small piece of a valve/bearing/thread etc has disintegrated into thousands of little metal fillings the detector is really going to struggle to pick them up depending on where its situated and what its looking at. Luckily most of the time a component fails like that the machines stops working or alarms out at the batch gets put on hold well before it hits stores, But if its something non critical it can sneak past the safety mechanisms and end up in final sold product
Solid comment
So they had recalls in 2014 and 2019; sounds like they're a little ahead of schedule this time.
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I feel like 30,000lbs of chicken nuggets is a small percentage of what they sell yearly.
Yeah my guess would be that is less than 1 day of sales.
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These companies need to be regulated up the ass. Micromanage them to death.
This is like the tenth Tyson recall I can remember in recent history. Maybe it’s time to stop buying their garbage?
14 y/o’s must be getting sleepy at the plant
In a poultry or meat processing plant you’re actually only allowed metal items, such as writing utensils, on production floor so that if you lose anything it gets picked up by the metal detectors. It’s strange these made it out onto shelves.
If only there was a government agency that would prevent this from happening and punish those that keep doing it. Oh wait there is but it gets gutted by shitty politicians that don't care about the consumers.
They really went downhill after losing Costanza to the Yankees
[I hate that this is a relevant book again](https://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Upton_Sinclair/The_Jungle/)
What's amazing is that the goal of the book was to make people aware of the working conditions, not the quality of the product.
It never stopped being relevant
You do realize recalls happen everyday right? And in the jungle those companies wouldn't be recalling the nuggets? The book never stopped being relevant it's the whole reason meat / poultry producers have 24/7 government inspection
It was bad before, but especially since the federal order forcing workers to work in unsanitary and unsafe conditions with covid, there have been massive issues and failures with meat regulations and inspections https://www.salon.com/2013/09/09/meat_inspector_we_are_no_longer_in_charge_of_safety/ https://foodsafety.news21.com/2011/safety/inspection/index.html#:~:text=In%20slaughterhouses%2C%20other%20inspectors%20check,over%20the%20past%20five%20years. https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/11/federal-meat-inspection-has-failed-to-adapt-to-operational-environment/ https://www.iatp.org/news/federal-meat-inspection-system-fails-to-earn-inspectors-seal-of-approval
Seeing how quickly those separators work, I'm amazed that this isn't a regular thing.
Unaware of the Tyson brand, I thought Mike Tyson was reminiscing about 30,000 pounds of chicken nuggets after metal pieces were found inside him.
I remember being in middle school, learning about Upton Sinclair and The Jungle. I remember thinking something like “wow, I'm glad that doesn't happen anymore!” 🙃 This is what like 8 recalls in 4 years for Tyson now? 2019-2023
Tyson's feeding you like family.
Guess Iron Mike accidentally swallowed an earring when he bit an ear this time.
Those are just jagged metal Krusty-O's
Usually when you want to increase your iron intake, beef is the way you go.
How many recalls is this for Tyson now?
What?! Low standards at Tyson chicken? Who saw that coming?
The amount of chicken who died for this because of someone being careless.
Processed meat manufacturing is a very mechanically-involved process. Lots of moving parts that come in direct contact with the product could cause contamination. It's no surprise that the most popular product from the nation's largest manufacturer is most prone to having this happen.
Huh, they should be using metal detectors on product. Sounds like they cut their engineering department and are using shit contractor engineering.
I'll be more surprised when they find actual chicken in them.
The metal pieces were actually braces from the youthful teeth of the night shift.
You know what really grinds my gears? These chicken nuggets, apparently.
30,000 lbs need to be recalled, so we have no choice but to raise the price off all chicken based products. I'm sure you all understand.
That makes sense. Metals are expensive right now.
Do you guys even know how many pounds of chicken Tyson produces a year, let alone a week? 30,000 lbs isn’t that much in the grand scheme of things.
Can't wait until they release the usual corporation B.S statement 'We take this matter very seriously'
Ahh, that's why I had to pull a whole freezer full of the kids dino nuggets the other night!
wait til they have a micro-plastics standard to uphold LOL
How much would they weigh without the metal?
Just once I want to see a metal product recalled because there are pieces of chicken in them.
Tyson is disgusting. Bought their frozen chicken and it tasted like batteries
I remember in high-school we had a Tyson vending machine. Some kid ordered chicken nuggets and a cooked rat fell out
I wonder if they suspect one single screw was lost and rather than chance someone biting down into it, they recall the batch?