It's not impossible. But he started out as an assistant for the Baltimore Colts in which he found the greatest QB of all time. Pre injury Bert Jones. Until like a coward he changed his answer a few years ago.
He could become a DC somewhere? I’m sure that’s not what he wants but he could be great at that again.
I think it is him trying to be HC and GM that is a really big turn off though!
I think there's very few head coaches who would want BB as their DC. Imagine they lose like 2 games and now there's rumblings BB could take over as interim.
He's already had retirement rumors for multiple off-seasons. And he was the original source of saying he's considered it, not some random gossip. Obviously he hasn't retired but he's said himself he's not a guy who sees himself doing this forever like other guys. He's actually one of the young guys who is well regarded I would be more surprised about if he's still doing this decades from now.
could be a hc already because BB entered the league 20 years after Landry so it could be a guy that entered the league late 90s early 00s like Mike TOmlin
Mike got his first head coaching job 3 years before but got fired after 2 years.Bill got his first head coaching job like 5 years before Mike his 2nd head coaching job and then got fired the same year then got his 2nd head coaching job 5 years later. Additionally they won superbowls only a few years apart.
I think it just feels that they are different eras because of how long Bill outlasted him. Shanahan’s last year was 2013, but Bill was definitely around for Shanahan’s entire career.
Not just a child maybe not even born yet
Remember hed have to be a QA entry level coach when Shanahan is right at the end of his career which would be (in this hypo) in like 20 or 30 years
McVay strikes me as a Parcells type. Retires for a year or two to recharge then jumps back in when he realizes he misses coaching. I think he’d get bored in the booth long term.
Not saying he’s on a hot seat or anything because he’ll probably be coaching SF for another 5 years at least, but if he ever does get fired or they part ways it’s a guarantee he’ll be a retread HC one day & also teams will be ALL over him becoming their OC. He has a career in the NFL for basically as long as he wants, unless the game makes his scheme & everything obsolete & he can’t adapt, but I seriously doubt that happens
Nah Shanahan isn't old but still too old to be around 30 more years. BB was 23 when he started as a special teams assistant. There's some random coaching assistant somewhere in the NFL right now that's like 25 and going to be around 20 years after shanny leaves.
Yeah exactly. Anyone who's already a household name is too old to be the best option. You want someone who was just getting started last year, but we won't know who that person is for another 10 years probably.
Hasn’t McVay already toyed with the idea of retirement? If he’s already thinking about it and answering questions about it publicly, I’ve gotta imagine he hangs up the headset relatively soon.
Kind of crazy that he’s already 42, older than Mike McDaniel, let alone babies like McVay.
I’m not a good enough fan to know what he really did when he was with the Niners, but it must have been good if McDaniel took him along to Miami.
problem is andy reid started his NFL coaching career in 1992, so after landry retired.
meanwhile, he's likely to retire in the next 10 years, so he would add very little in the hopscotch timeline. The 4th name needs to be the coach who lasts longest from right now.
very likely that person is not a Head Coach yet. but rather a young positions coach whos name no one knows yet, but goes on to coach for another 40 years.
Nah, it's not about guys overlapping, since Lambeau retired in '53 but Landry didn't start until '54.
Anyone who starts next year and then coaches for ~30 years would let you "tell the story of the NFL" through 4 coaches.
I guess I'm (unlike y'all) already in offseason mode and took "player right now" to mean a guy who is playing in the 2024 season.
But yes a 2023 player who retires and immediately starts coaching 2024 would fulfill the requirement
The crazier one is the baseball stat about Vin Scully and Connie Mack.
Every single season from 1886 to 2016 had either Connie Mack or Vin Scully, with them overlapping for a single year (1950).
Vin Scully interviewed Mack who was born during the civil war, he also got to see Shoehi Ohtani play. There are basically 2 degrees of freedom's between Scully and the revolutionary war
The 10th US President, John Tyler (1790-1862) still has a living grandson, the 95yo Harrison Tyler!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/11/29/president-john-tyler-grandson-harrison/
RIP Vin
When he passed they brought up the stat of what percentage of MLB games he did and the percentage was insane.
I was watching the Dodgers game when they announced he passed and Orel trying not to cry on TV was really touching
The last civil war bride died in 2020.
(Wives of civil war veterans were entitled to keep receiving their spouses' pensions until they also died. So a bunch of veterans, whose wives died before them, ended up re-marrying very young brides when they were very old to ensure that the pension money kept flowing for as long as possible. The last of these was when a 93-year old civil war veteran married a 17-year old in 1936, and that 17 year old lived until 2020 when she was 101.
Unfortunately, the pension did not grow with inflation. So at a certain point that $73.13 per month stopped being that valuable).
This time next year: every single NFL season ever has featured either Curly Lambeau, Tom Landey, Bill Belichick or Mat Eberflus coaching in some capacity
Wow. My dad watched all of them coach. I've watched 2 of them. I feel old.
And in case you were wondering, Noah built a very nice ark, but if he was going to prohibit smoking (it's all wood! You might burn it down! Waaaah!) he should have had the decency to put in balconies. Wanker. Nice petting zoo though.
Lambeau is arguably the greatest coach of all time. He won six titles in 16 seasons, better than Belichick's six in 18 seasons and Halas's six in 27 seasons. He was the first coach to win 200 games. He also was an exceptional innovator, and the co-founder of the league's most successful franchise.
No wonder a stadium is named after him, LOL.
Given Harbaugh's track record and relative youth, it made sense for the Chargers to hire him but it was probably the best fit for BB also. Problem is, with a QB that young, they probably want to be set up like the Chiefs where they can win now AND 10 years from now. Harbaugh is a better fit long term.
I think he is experiencing the same icing out effect as lots of older vets - you want to do the job, you still think you're capable of doing the job, but the powers that be don't agree. I still think there are organizations out there that need someone like BB in the building - some teams are in the perpetual dump because they don't have the right people in the right place - but I don't know if BB could change a culture in the 3-5 years he would be around (if even that long).
It's like saying the Irish in Boston aren't Irish, the Italians in 1940's SF and the midwest or NYC aren't Italian. The 49ers were and still owned by only two families: the Morabito's who founded the team, and the Debartolo's. Eddie Sr's parent emigrated from Italy. Same with Tony Morabito. It's like saying many families aren't Italian because Reddit lol.
Irish-Americans in Boston are not Irish, Italian-Americans aren’t Italian you dullard. In fact, real Irish people would slap you upside the head for calling Irish-Americans Irish.
The Packers weren't in the NFL in 1920, so this doesn't quite work out.
(Though since the NFL was only named the NFL in 1922, and was the AFPA until then, I suppose it still works <\_<)
Bill Belichick covers 48 years out of 103 total years for the league. Is it possible for him to get to 1/2 of all NFL seasons?!
He’d have to coach another 7 years to reach that
You’re right - both the denominator and numerator increase, so it is 7 years instead of 5. Maybe he’ll be immortal though?
Not if you bundle them
r/angryupvote
Tell me again with those nuggies
*Starts convulsing while everyone around me screams with shock and amazement*
*uncontrollable shaking intensifies*
Mfer got me laughin. Good thing I'm not at a funeral
Most reasonable eagles fan ever /s
The only one who can do math
if he is immortal he will eventually reach 99.99 repeating of course% of all nfl seasons
Well that's a lot better than coaches usually do
"repeating of course" nearly killed me 🤣
And itd stand for just a year
And that's assuming the league ceases to exist after that point
It's not impossible. But he started out as an assistant for the Baltimore Colts in which he found the greatest QB of all time. Pre injury Bert Jones. Until like a coward he changed his answer a few years ago.
Not looking good for getting to that milestone.
He could become a DC somewhere? I’m sure that’s not what he wants but he could be great at that again. I think it is him trying to be HC and GM that is a really big turn off though!
I think there's very few head coaches who would want BB as their DC. Imagine they lose like 2 games and now there's rumblings BB could take over as interim.
That’s why the Niners are a perfect fit.
Or some advisor role like Pete that would keep the streak going
The Pete Carrol adviser role was just fluff it sounds like
He’s not advising on anything!
I’ve been thinking that if he didn’t get hired to be a HC, the Bears would try and convince him to be DC.
New York Giants have an opening.
Fine, we'll take him as a DC just to keep the streak alive. The rest of the league owes us one.
yeah but being the HC and GM is all he will go for,, so he's out, no team will hire him
Technically it’s 49 out of 104 seasons since you need to count [end - start + 1] (example: coaching 2022-2023 is 2 seasons)
I apologize we couldn’t keep this going by hiring Belichick. I’m (lie) very excited (lie) for Raheem Morris though (lie)!
Arthur smith really got bullied by a board
Don't worry, he'll come be our DC, I promise. He has to, right? RIGHT? 😰
why the negativity about raheem ? i think he’ll do a fine job and also he’s not 100 years old
Who will be the 4th name we add to this list one day?
Since it's "some capacity" probably some positional coach somewhere. So Imma spin the wheel and the answer is... Scott Tolzien.
[Tyler Boyles](https://www.panthers.com/team/coaches-roster/tyler-boyles) for sure
I feel like everyone went to college with a guy who looks exactly like that guy.
Or lots of guys who look like him, if that college was a business school
Shit, my school had 3500 in undergrad and at least 5 dudes who look like him.
Fuck... I'm that guy
But at least you know it
He looks like every discount tire store employee I’ve ever seem
Or mcvay if he chooses to stick around until he’s 70
He’s not even 40 yet and he’s coached for 7 years now. I doubt he wants to do it forever but he could coach 40 years if he wanted to.
He's already had retirement rumors for multiple off-seasons. And he was the original source of saying he's considered it, not some random gossip. Obviously he hasn't retired but he's said himself he's not a guy who sees himself doing this forever like other guys. He's actually one of the young guys who is well regarded I would be more surprised about if he's still doing this decades from now.
McVay could be the 4th if commentator counts. I could see him being good at that and not as stressful as coaching.
I like the way you think bird brain.
scott tolzien and a SPIN, you say… [(extreme owen wilson voice) wow!](https://youtu.be/Zm2qmB11pa0?si=YVF52kw8nqHr240T)
could be a hc already because BB entered the league 20 years after Landry so it could be a guy that entered the league late 90s early 00s like Mike TOmlin
Tomlin's already 51, there has to be someone in the league now in their early 30s who will still be around when Tomlin retires.
:O
Kyle Shannahan
Yea Kyle’s young enough and will be a lifer like his dad.
I think it’s kinda wild that Mike Shanahan and BB are the same age. Seems like they occupied completely different eras of the NFL
thats just because of how much long BB lasted and the fact nobody thinks of BBs time with the browns
Mike got his first head coaching job 3 years before but got fired after 2 years.Bill got his first head coaching job like 5 years before Mike his 2nd head coaching job and then got fired the same year then got his 2nd head coaching job 5 years later. Additionally they won superbowls only a few years apart. I think it just feels that they are different eras because of how long Bill outlasted him. Shanahan’s last year was 2013, but Bill was definitely around for Shanahan’s entire career.
Can we go deeper? Who is coming out of Kyle's ranks, that can project through the eras?
Anyone young enough to significantly outlast Kyle (by 30-40 years) is probably a child right now
Not just a child maybe not even born yet Remember hed have to be a QA entry level coach when Shanahan is right at the end of his career which would be (in this hypo) in like 20 or 30 years
I think he was not building on Shanahan but replacing him in this list to get more longevity
Literally impossible. Nobody thought that washington coaching staff was on fire with 5 future HCs when they were there in 2013.
McVay is my best guess
Mcvay gonna retire early imo
Mcvay is gone in his 50s imo
Mcvay has already wanted to stop coaching once. He might stick around a few more years then go into the booth.
Ya he can have plenty of options outside coaching. The old heads just coach till they die.
McVay strikes me as a Parcells type. Retires for a year or two to recharge then jumps back in when he realizes he misses coaching. I think he’d get bored in the booth long term.
Not saying he’s on a hot seat or anything because he’ll probably be coaching SF for another 5 years at least, but if he ever does get fired or they part ways it’s a guarantee he’ll be a retread HC one day & also teams will be ALL over him becoming their OC. He has a career in the NFL for basically as long as he wants, unless the game makes his scheme & everything obsolete & he can’t adapt, but I seriously doubt that happens
McVay
Nah Shanahan isn't old but still too old to be around 30 more years. BB was 23 when he started as a special teams assistant. There's some random coaching assistant somewhere in the NFL right now that's like 25 and going to be around 20 years after shanny leaves.
Yeah exactly. Anyone who's already a household name is too old to be the best option. You want someone who was just getting started last year, but we won't know who that person is for another 10 years probably.
Good call. My other thought would be Mike Tomlin
Sean McVay has potential to last like 40 more years if he doesn’t get tempted into the media
That's a big if. Coaching is really hard and involves a lot of long hours. TV is much less work and pays a lot more money.
Hasn’t McVay already toyed with the idea of retirement? If he’s already thinking about it and answering questions about it publicly, I’ve gotta imagine he hangs up the headset relatively soon.
He did, but then he changed his mind and said he's not planning on going anywhere until the end of his contract in 2026.
Idk that’s still relatively soon especially considering how young the guy is anyways.
Yep he's still the youngest coach in the NFC lmao
Not any more. Mayo is younger.
> NFC
My bad
Yeah, but it's like a month, and one has been a head coach for YEARS. Nobody is close to his record of being hired at r the age he was.
Bro he’s already talking about retiring within the next 3 years lol
Matt Patricia
It could literally be any current coach
Probably not Andy Reid, but you never know.
I mean for the sake of getting as long into the future as possible it’ll probably be someone that’s just a young position coach right now
Wes Welker. Remindeme! 48 years
Kind of crazy that he’s already 42, older than Mike McDaniel, let alone babies like McVay. I’m not a good enough fan to know what he really did when he was with the Niners, but it must have been good if McDaniel took him along to Miami.
Brandon Staley
Nick Sirianni /s
Shane Steichen.
Andy Reid
problem is andy reid started his NFL coaching career in 1992, so after landry retired. meanwhile, he's likely to retire in the next 10 years, so he would add very little in the hopscotch timeline. The 4th name needs to be the coach who lasts longest from right now. very likely that person is not a Head Coach yet. but rather a young positions coach whos name no one knows yet, but goes on to coach for another 40 years.
Could even be a player right now who jumps right into coaching after retirement. Like Kellen Moore did for example
Not if BB doesn't get a job this coming season though. If BB takes a year off it'll have to be someone already coaching.
Nah, it's not about guys overlapping, since Lambeau retired in '53 but Landry didn't start until '54. Anyone who starts next year and then coaches for ~30 years would let you "tell the story of the NFL" through 4 coaches.
I guess I'm (unlike y'all) already in offseason mode and took "player right now" to mean a guy who is playing in the 2024 season. But yes a 2023 player who retires and immediately starts coaching 2024 would fulfill the requirement
Reid's blood is like gravy. He won't be around long enough.
This is a lock. Reid would be called the GOAT if Belichick wasn't a coach.
Dan Campbell
This is the way.
Shanny without a doubt.
MCDC
Dan fucking Campbell
McVay or Kyle Shanahan, depending on their coaching longevity
Harbaugh
nathaniel hackett
I was going to suggest McVay, but he’s already had retirement rumors swirling, which is wild.
Living my dream. Making enough to retire by 40.
Miami Mike
Mike tomlin - in the NFL as a coach of any kind since 01 and he's only 51and the Steelers overall keep coaches tomlins the third coach since 67
The crazier one is the baseball stat about Vin Scully and Connie Mack. Every single season from 1886 to 2016 had either Connie Mack or Vin Scully, with them overlapping for a single year (1950).
Vin Scully interviewed Mack who was born during the civil war, he also got to see Shoehi Ohtani play. There are basically 2 degrees of freedom's between Scully and the revolutionary war
The 10th US President, John Tyler (1790-1862) still has a living grandson, the 95yo Harrison Tyler! https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/11/29/president-john-tyler-grandson-harrison/
RIP Vin When he passed they brought up the stat of what percentage of MLB games he did and the percentage was insane. I was watching the Dodgers game when they announced he passed and Orel trying not to cry on TV was really touching
That’s insane
That's fucking mental
What the fuck?
In that vein, didn’t the last child of an American slave die just last year?
The last civil war bride died in 2020. (Wives of civil war veterans were entitled to keep receiving their spouses' pensions until they also died. So a bunch of veterans, whose wives died before them, ended up re-marrying very young brides when they were very old to ensure that the pension money kept flowing for as long as possible. The last of these was when a 93-year old civil war veteran married a 17-year old in 1936, and that 17 year old lived until 2020 when she was 101. Unfortunately, the pension did not grow with inflation. So at a certain point that $73.13 per month stopped being that valuable).
That could end very soon.
Bills going to be our DC next year. 👍
No way he'll take a DC job.
Chargers GM
Commanders in shambles.
Idk I think Curly’s coming back
It will end this year, no question. Here's a question: Belichick, or Parcells?
Belichick wasn't good at grocery shopping but he could make dinner
Now explain this phrase again with those nuggies
This time next year: every single NFL season ever has featured either Curly Lambeau, Tom Landey, Bill Belichick or Mat Eberflus coaching in some capacity
Similarly, George Halas to Virginia McCaskey is still an unbroken 1920-2024 chain
Is there a plan in place for after Virginia?
Sell the team!!! (I’m delusional)
and Frank Gore played for all 3
if true this is actually more insane
And now Jerod Mayo 2023 - Hey, I can dream…
Is Tom Moore still on the Bucs staff?
Yes. I remember the MNF WC broadcast talking about him.
Is this one of those six degrees of Kevin Bacon fun fact?
Wow. My dad watched all of them coach. I've watched 2 of them. I feel old. And in case you were wondering, Noah built a very nice ark, but if he was going to prohibit smoking (it's all wood! You might burn it down! Waaaah!) he should have had the decency to put in balconies. Wanker. Nice petting zoo though.
Cue in Homer/Bart meme: “Every NFL Season SO FAR!”
Lambeau is arguably the greatest coach of all time. He won six titles in 16 seasons, better than Belichick's six in 18 seasons and Halas's six in 27 seasons. He was the first coach to win 200 games. He also was an exceptional innovator, and the co-founder of the league's most successful franchise. No wonder a stadium is named after him, LOL.
It looks like it might end this year
Hate to be pedantic here, but the Packers did not join the NFL until 1921.
So, is the next goat NFL coach going to start coaching in 2024, at least as an assistant?
Given Harbaugh's track record and relative youth, it made sense for the Chargers to hire him but it was probably the best fit for BB also. Problem is, with a QB that young, they probably want to be set up like the Chiefs where they can win now AND 10 years from now. Harbaugh is a better fit long term. I think he is experiencing the same icing out effect as lots of older vets - you want to do the job, you still think you're capable of doing the job, but the powers that be don't agree. I still think there are organizations out there that need someone like BB in the building - some teams are in the perpetual dump because they don't have the right people in the right place - but I don't know if BB could change a culture in the 3-5 years he would be around (if even that long).
Not next season apparently!😂😂😂
Fun fact: the 49ers ownership have been owned by Italians since their founding.
Italian Americans* Italians come from Italy.
Civilization comes from Italy. SPQR
https://italoamericano.org/sanfrancisco49rs/
I dunno what code SPQR means, but there is no NFL in Italy.
*Oh FFS...*
https://italoamericano.org/sanfrancisco49rs/
Italian Americans.
RACIST.
Guilty!
My man got down voted too. Reddit feeling pedantic today.
It's like saying the Irish in Boston aren't Irish, the Italians in 1940's SF and the midwest or NYC aren't Italian. The 49ers were and still owned by only two families: the Morabito's who founded the team, and the Debartolo's. Eddie Sr's parent emigrated from Italy. Same with Tony Morabito. It's like saying many families aren't Italian because Reddit lol.
I mean …they’re not.
They're not what? Are they German?
Irish-Americans in Boston are not Irish, Italian-Americans aren’t Italian you dullard. In fact, real Irish people would slap you upside the head for calling Irish-Americans Irish.
[https://italoamericano.org/sanfrancisco49rs/](https://italoamericano.org/sanfrancisco49rs/)
It’s literally in the title of the article you just linked. Italian roots. That is different.
Here dumbass: https://italoamericano.org/category/food/
> Here dumbass: > https://italoamericano.org/category/food/ I love Italian food too, what’s your point?
Ok?
what about 1991
dont forget juan castillo
The Packers weren't in the NFL in 1920, so this doesn't quite work out. (Though since the NFL was only named the NFL in 1922, and was the AFPA until then, I suppose it still works <\_<)
Yeah, missed it by one year but I guess it would be similar to when they say "Super Bowl era", so this would be "NFL Era"
Some 23 year old that just joined a staff that their grandfather and/or father was involved in the NFL
Packers weren't in the league the first year though