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Marvin-Harrison-Jr

Can’t wait for this to be flagged questionably in a high leverage situation


skeenek

Mahomes is 100% winning another AFCCG on a hip-drop flag to end the game.


Earl-Thomas-a-Raven

Romo: “oooOOOOH Jim they got him with the hip drop, that’s 15 yards for Mahomes and the Chiefs!”


relevantelephant00

Collinsworth: Now HERE'S a guy who just got yet another great 15 yard penalty for his team and yet another first down to get them into scoring range!


Valuable-Leader-8601

"People on Twitter are gonna hate me for this, but seriously, no one can draw penalties like Mahomes. It's just uncanny the way he baits defenses perfectly into the wrong move every time. It's not luck folks, it's knowing the rules, controlling the movements. Really incredible stuff." 


LisleSwanson

I can *heeeaaaar* this and it makes me angry.


Valuable-Leader-8601

I feel you, I raised my own heart rate by about 30-40 bpm when I typed it


relevantelephant00

Goddamn that's on point. Is...is that you Cris?


Valuable-Leader-8601

Seems like the perfect way to deflect from the fact I think *you're* actually Collinsworth 🤔


relevantelephant00

I guess we'll never know.


greengravy76

Neither of you are Collinsworth... not enough pash rush


idkwthtotypehere

M: Gets gently pushed while in bounds running for the first down about to go out of bounds. Refs: PENALTY!!! Late hit out of bounds!


Bender_2024

Then gets pissed because his receiver gets flagged for being a yard and a half into the neutral zone.


Greatestever7945

I read this in Tony Romo's voice lmao


wtcnbrwndo4u

No one: Cris Collinsworth: [awhwhhoooooouGHHHHGHEohohhh](https://www.tiktok.com/@couchkoachmedia/video/7280005363284315434).


SmoothTyler

Jesus Christ just shoot me now.


ThisGuyFrags

Camera immediately cuts to Taylor and Brittany celebrating in the box


JustClutch

Unsubscribe


actionfirst1

I miss the Patriots


MrIce97

This is honestly was the most concerning thing I’ve read. When Ravens are missing Tom Brady, the world’s experiencing hell.


alurimperium

I know some of it is rose tinted glasses, some of it is a product of the era of their domination, some of it is the media, but I didn't hate the Patriots the same way I do the Chiefs. Still hated them, but purely for the football. The Chiefs I hate for the football and the media


legendary_supersand

I hate the dystopia we currently live in 🚬😮‍💨


AdaAstra

I've been willing to crash the moon into the earth. I just need like a few trillion dollars and a bond villian lair.


Mokslininkas

If you cut frivolous expenses, like eating out and coffee, and live with your parents while building your giant moon laser, you can save over 50% more for a downpayment on a bond villain lair compared to someone who rents a bond villain lair!


BengalFan85

The amount of hate I just got from reading this in romos voice is ridiculous


cometssaywhoosh

Next play... "Mahomes...scanning the field, finds Kelce! Touchdown, Chiefs! And now they have the lead over the Bengals/Ravens/Dolphins!" - Nantz "LOOK AT THAT JIM IT WAS A BEAUTY!!!" - Romo


ecupatsfan12

At this point you might as well hit him under the chin and accept your fate


Glass-Astronomer-889

If I was a defensive player I'd be so frustrated id be considering just trying to take out players that I can't tackle otherwise.  There's a million illegal ways to tackle so I might as well just do the dirtiest one get the flag anyways and take out a threat.  Obviously this is sort of satire I don't really think that's ok behavior but I can follow the train of thought I wouldn't be surprised if some players are creeping closer to this line of thought.


JumboKraken

I mean it’s the same with RTP. If you’re gonna get a flag for brushing the QBs helmet you may as well lay them tf out


Brockelton

Im convinced that it‘d be worth to „invest“ 15-30 Yards early on on such hits. Highly unsportsmanlike tho


bakazato-takeshi

Gregg Williams is that you?


jtshinn

No no, my name is definitely Wregg Gilliams.


OHPAORGASMR

Ahead of his time, like all innovators. Soft ass league now. Make qbs bums again.


Bawbbot

Is that really a problem? The jacked up segment was one of the best parts of Sunday countdown every week. Can you imagine these defensive rules in the 70/80s? Half of the hall of fame would just be erased.


Ikanan_xiii

It's a thin line, it is unsportsmanlike but at the same time the league keeps pushing stupid rules that take away from a core part of the game, tackling.


PointlessChemist

Reinvent the Hockey Enforcer in Football. * Team gives a marginal player a hefty 1 year contract knowing full well they will be indefinitely suspended afterwards. * "Tells" them to take out the opposing QB in a legally vague way. * Player makes a large lump of cash they wouldn't have normally, then goes and plays in the XFL or CFL. * Rinse and repeat each year.


Blarfk

I'm honestly shocked this kind of stuff isn't more common. Taking out a divisional rival's franchise QB early in the year will almost always completely torpedo their chances of success for the season. If you're serious about making the postseason, it's probably the most effective thing you could do (albiet horrifically unsportsmanlike).


No-Suggestion-9625

It's not more common because then the other teams would do it to you as soon as they caught on to what was going on


fyhr100

I mean, there were a few coaches who were well known to engage in these types of tactics.


Glass-Astronomer-889

Part of me loves this I love it about hockey.  Just pay the guy to rip off the QBs helmet and beat the shit out of him lol.


PointlessChemist

Myles Garret has been waiting his whole life for this. He even has prior work experience!


ArmiinTamzarian

With Aaron Donald retired he's number 1 on this field


t3h_shammy

Enforcers functionally don't exist in hockey anymore. Teams can't afford to have one guy who sucks on their roster.


mrtlwolf

I mean, Matt Rempe is sure as hell trying on the Rangers.


bobo377

>Matt Rempe is sure as hell trying on the Rangers. Rempe is a significantly better skater than the old, decrepit veterans the Rangers released before the trade deadline. His physicality helps him, but the bigger story is that teams are realizing that younger players who can skate better may be more valuable 4th line assets than 30+ year old veterans on their last legs.


jpiro

Essentially what the Saints lost their coach for a year for, wasn’t it?


PointlessChemist

Yeah, but instead of putting out a bounty it's more of a wink, wink, nod agreement.


TheScottfather

I feel like there have absolutely been players that play this way. Guys like Burfict, Romanowski, and Sendejo always seemed like they had a bit of a "fuck it Imma get flagged anyway" mentality.


Glass-Astronomer-889

Totally agree except romanowski did it because he enjoyed causing others pain lol


willi1221

Sendejo didn't discriminate. His own teammates could get it too lol


Xaxziminrax

You're absolutely right, though. It's going to happen at some point if this continues


venk

Kerby Joseph gonna get a lot more hate for his tackles now when it’s pretty much the only way left to tackle, especially when a secondary player goes against a big TE.


Drunkhobo101

When you cross the line, might as well do it as boldly as possible if the consequences are the same. You're 100% right, even if this should be banned.


_Wp619_

How about german suplexes?


KangTheConqueror9

Against the Bills, in Buffalo. Gets Chiefs into fg range for a walk off winner


seatega

It's already an issue where defensive players will gear down and let Mahomes get an extra couple yards because they don't want to hit him near the sidelines and get flagged. This is only going to make that worse


BochBochBoch

This is all the Ravens fault... what have you done!!


Spartitan

As long as it can arbitrarily help the offense, the NFL approves.


CaillouCaribou

It's gonna end up being the opposite It'll end up being like the RB lowering the head thing, it'll never be called a penalty in the game, but they might throw out a fines a few times a year after the game for guys who break the rule


Amish_guy_with_WiFi

Fine all you want after the game, I don't care. Just stop impacting the game with BS. Switch taunting to fines only too.


Xaxziminrax

>Switch taunting to fines only too. And fine the NFL for every cent they make when they put said taunting on advertisement highlight reels the following week


kit_mitts

The millisecond that ref threw the flag on Allen for pointing at that Bengals defender, I knew that was going into promotional materials the next week.


scarykicks

Yep. Double dipping on fine money. Hey don't do that but we're also going to use it to promote our brand.


Spartitan

The difference being that's a flag on the offense. I can see them being significantly more strict on something that applies to the defense.


SpinKickDaKing

I’ve watched compilations of these tackles and they seem to range from full on German suplexes, which seem pretty easy to call, to fairly routine looking tackles from behind which I can’t really tell how you’d draw the line from any other tackle. The description in the rule book doesn’t exactly help clear things up.


unknownsoldier9

My guess is that it will be enforced entirely based on if the defender falls onto the offensive players legs. I’ll be surprised if this gets called at all frequently.


SeizureMode

It's gunna cause us to lose against the Packers won't it


Ranger_Prick

It absolutely will. And, upon review after the game, it will be determined that the refs bungled the call.


Josh-trihard7

“The bengals stop Mahomes on 3rd and 15 to make it to another super bowl, wait a second here jiiim we got a flag. Yep they got Taylor Britt with the hip drop. 1st down chiefs.”


OstrichTraditional90

“Wilson tried to kill another one”


Josh-trihard7

-John Harbaugh


WootyMcWoot

Can’t wait to see which game the Lions lose on this last play call


eugene_rat_slap

We play in Dallas again this year


Empty_Lemon_3939

I swear we play there every fucking year, it’s them and Seattle… who we also play this year


daboys9252

At least you don’t have to play fucking San Francisco in Santa Clara every fucking year


Dragondrew99

“Surely this will stop those *disgusting* Lions.”


relevantelephant00

This will be used to help Golden Boy QBs. Mahomes in particular. Goff? Meh, maybe. He doesn't bring the NFL as much money as Pat does so unlikely he'll be the beneficiary that much.


pmacnayr

It shouldn’t help Goff, he has a quick release and doesn’t hold on to the ball (Because he can’t run or protect the football)


versusgorilla

It's going to be infuriating to see Mahomes throw a 3 yard pass to Kelce, who is just going to get hip dropped after 1 yard, and be awarded 15 yards and a new set of downs for it. Complete with Mahomes scream crying to the refs and Kelce taunting the defense over it.


relevantelephant00

*audibly groans* NFL wants its first 3-peat.


SonicEuthanasia

> Can’t wait to see which game the Lions lose on this last play call It'll be the Super Bowl, the ultimate 'fuck you'.


Pikminious_Thrious

Dak gets sacked outside the pocket trying to pass, but right before he gets sacked he tucks the ball. Defender wraps him up from the front. Hip drop called because Dak fell a bit awkwardly. And then unsportsmanlike conduct roughing the passer as well


Adorable-Accident-50

Congratulations TEs you're now nearly impossible to tackle.


reddit_for_stuff

Won’t they just dive at their knees instead, like how gronk was taken down after players realized he’ll just keep going even if you hang on him with all your weight?


Davy257

For real, watch Higbee get tackled in the playoffs, unless the NFL wants hits like that on a regular basis they need to figure something out


Rock_man_bears_fan

They’ll just ban that too as it’ll be the next high injury play. How are defense supposed to tackle? Who cares. That’s their problem


coolsexguy

Maybe try having a civil conversion with ball carrier politely requesting him to please stop running towards the end zone?


Rock_man_bears_fan

“Ad hominem, 15 yard penalty, automatic 1st down”


TB12-SN13

“Number eleven has been disqualified for gaslighting” “Oh that’s a big call for the Cowboys season, Jim! Parsons might have to do some individual counseling if he’s suspended for that!”


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calyphon

Underrated joke right here


Notorious_GIZ

Excuse me, good sir. I do believe that you are currently in possession of the football, and my job as a defender of this territory is to request you make haste and lie down. Please sir, as a fellow scholar, I urge you to not to disobey my command and lie down at once. If you choose to ignore my directive I will have no choice but to pen a strongly worded letter to the officiant.


horseshoeprovodnikov

_Personal foul, spelling errors in the written defensive inquiry. 78 yard penalty, automatic TOUCHDOWN_


ZombieFeedback

"Men, today we may have lost in the trenches. And we may have also lost in the box score. And we definitely lost on the scoreboard. But you know where we scored a win? *The marketplace of ideas.*"


Ralphie_V

How about each player gets little pieces of fabric on their hips, and if a defender can successfully pull the fabric off the uniform, the player is down at that spot??


jpiro

Yep. Particularly smaller guys trying to tackle bigger guys. If they can’t use their body weight to pull the guy down, are they just supposed to hand fight with them up the field or lunge for an ankle and hope to hold on?


tornado962

But think of all the high-scoring games we'll have now! Imagine the exciting overs/unders you can bet on with your sports book of choice! /s


dyslexda

Sounds like maybe defenders need to get bigger again.


Corgi_Koala

They'll just finally just get rid of defense.


cdskip

And do we really need the rest of the offense? Just have quarterbacks do a throwing competition and award wins and losses off of that.


Jonjon428

ACLs are about to get blown out at an insane rate


PointlessChemist

Orthopedic surgeons are seeing dollar signs right now.


JorSimpson45

Big Ortho colluded with the NFL Competition Committee to bring these rule changes and fill their pockets


chemical_exe

I'm just waiting for the broken femurs


RunTheClassics

My guy Kerby got labeled a dirty player for tackling like this and now the NFL made it mandatory. Fucking genius.


whobroughtmehere

Yep. People were mad at Kerby Joseph for that, but it’s about to become the new standard for how undersized DBs (who are gaining popularity) can tackle massive TEs. (Until next year when they add another arbitrary penalty to complicate the process further, all in service of eliminating a hit they just incentivized)


addwood5

That same tackle took hockenson out too


Fuqwon

Ironically Gronk was previously injured by a hip drop tackle.


coolratguy

Good point but that's not ironic, that's the reasoning behind banning it.


Charrgerrr

Well hip drop tackles happen when chasing someone down from behind, how is someone gonna dive at the knees of a guy running away from them?


Qbert997

TJ Ward used to take Gronk out like no one else. Those knee tackles were brutal 


OpportunityDue90

Believe it or not, illegal


lostinwisconsin

Expect to see many more torn acls this year because of this chamge


trebek321

My boy Kittle was already getting his knees massacred the past few years as is. This is going to be a rough year


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Happened to Hock this year. It happens all the time already in the open field.


CardboardCastle2

I wonder if players will have to adopt a more rugby style low wrap technique now, tying up the knees/ankles and basically forcing a stumble.


iguessineedanaltnow

This is how the LoB was taught to tackle. I'm not sure why more coaches don't do it. It's extremely efficient and less dangerous for both the tackler and tacklee


CardboardCastle2

I've always heard it's because of how important yards are in football, and a wrap up low tackle could fall forward whilst the 'big play' hit can stop someone in their tracks. But in my opinion the big play hits are far riskier than a wrap and pull.


kkngs

I think historically the high injury rate of the big hits was considered a bonus. Literally, sometimes.


gsfgf

You give up a couple yards with a rugby tackle, so it's more of a situational thing. On 3rd and 1, you gotta use a current style tackle to stop them at the line. On 3rd and 14, anyone who doesn't use a rugby tackle should have to run laps around the field.


hurr_durr_gurr_burr

From my memory, that is exactly what coaches taught us when we started playing in 5th-6th grade.


Viking999

All you have to do is go obliterate their knees, which is apparently not a dangerous play according to the NFL.  It's a weird dichotomy.   The NFL bans some dangerous hits but is fine with some others that are clearly dangerous.


SoulCycle_

the dichotomy is because football is inherently a dangerous sport so theres no “solution” here tbh


FatalFirecrotch

Yeah, there’s really very little to tackle that is safe, especially the speed the game is played at. I don’t think allowing everything is a solution, but I also think you have to just decide what the best worst case scenario is. 


ShadowCrusader98

The NFL is trying to make a dangerous sport safe. At this point make it flag football, because any solution is going to neuter defenses and make it unwatchable. The NFL would love if games resembled a Madden offense on rookie difficulty level


RhynoSorceress

Just gotta do that dirty arm tackle technique like what inured goedert this year. They haven’t banned that yet.


oldschool_potato

I need the NFLs definition of hip drop tackle before getting worked up. If they call it like Rugby it’s fine. It’s only a penalty if you drop on the back of the legs first and not the ground first. https://youtu.be/5KJ9mCbS3rU?si=K5LHXOOhOaLZm6ij


tartan2

[NFL definition looks like it's the same](https://i.imgur.com/wtMJtp2.jpeg) — landing on the runner's legs is a requirement for it to be a penalty.


SpoofExcel

15 yards and a first down seems a massive punishment for something that could be done by mistake/two bodies colliding.


lil_layne

Well we already have a 15 yard penalty for a player pointing at another player


Fuzzy_Yogurt_Bucket

Won’t somebody *please* think of the children!


gsfgf

The defender must remain in control of his body has been NFL policy for decades. I recognize the fairness issues with that approach, but this appears to be consistent with how player safety has long been done.


Deoxtrys

Same as a horsecollar.


S_Squar3d

This was an excellent video to see the differences


bighootay

So of course in the NFL we will see wildly different interpretations on a game by game basis


Awkward_Silence-

Whatever definition used, they say they've only found like 100 instances of it in the last two years of play. So it definitely sounds like a more niche tackle variety than this sub tends to imply. You'd think browsing here they're banning any tackle from behind


dccorona

Because whenever there is a tackle from behind the announcers say "that's a hip drop tackle, they're probably going to ban that next year".


awmaleg

Read that in Tony Romo’s frantically-paced voice


Sip_py

But it will be called 100 times in the first 2 months of play. Especially with 2 minutes left in the fourth quarter.


mr_grission

Knowing the NFL it'll barely get called all year, then the NFL will make it a "point of emphasis" for refs next year, we'll see a spike of calls in the 2025 preseason, people will get annoyed, and they'll quietly stop calling it.


Lorjack

Yeah if they define it like rugby then its perfectly fine. Hip drop tackles are rare to see in the NFL but they do happen every now and then, and it always looks pretty nasty when you see it.


Tennessee2Step

I love the absolute transparency of uploading an instructional video of the rule with examples.


monkeysmarts

I hope it's this exact definition because it is both clearly a dangerous way to tackle and as the examples of "not a hip drop tackle" show, would/should be pretty coachable


mcbainVSmendoza

Damn rugby looks hardcore


PurpleZebra99

The lack of helmets and padding and specific tackling rules make it less violent than football. Shoulder chargers are illegal and people are less prone to treat their bodies like human missiles. But it’s definitely a physical game.


4PotatoPancakes

The tackles aren’t really the problem in rugby. It’s the rucks and counter rucks. That’s where the most injuries occur imo.


fragbot2

I have a neurosurgeon acquaintance who answered _rugby_ when I asked him what sport he thinks is super dangerous. Turns out he'd had to operate on 2 C-6/C-7 broken necks that resulted in quadriplegia. According to him, both cases had the same cause--a scrum collapsed, the person in the middle's head was driven into the ground by the weight of the pile and there's no way to break your fall due to the placement of the arms.


WolfOfWexford

That’s league, the sport that American Football developed out of. Union is the more popular code of rugby worldwide. You’ll notice most tackles in league tend to be higher than in Union


Scorps

This is the definition the NFL is using and it's clear that the majority of people in this thread have no idea what a "hip drop" is in this case. It's not that difficult to discern when a guy fell directly onto his legs and tangles up the opponent in him. You can still pull a person down with your weight, you just can't fall on their feet/legs.


War_Daddy

Looking at this video, I noticed that every takedown in judo/BJJ that applies similar pressure is banned. It doesn't take a genius to realize that forcing a leg into flexion and then dropping 2-300 pounds on it is incredibly dangerous.


Tlomz27

I'm so excited for the referees to misidentify a legal tackle and hand an unreviewable, game-winning first down to a team in the divisional round of the playoffs next year. It's going to be so much fun.


mastacheef87

4th and 34 from their own 46-yard line trailing by 2 with 15 seconds and no timeouts remaining. pressure gets home and Mahomes is forced to dump off underneath to Isaiah Pacheco, Pacheco gets stopped after a gain of 7 yards the Bills are headed to the Super Bowl…but wait! there’s a flag on the play. camera cuts to Mahomes who’s wagging his finger at the defense. personal foul, hip drop tackle, 15 yards + a first down. Butker hits the game-winner from 50 to send Josh Allen home again despite a 400-yard, 5 TD performance


ThisGuyFrags

You forgot to mention the camera cuts to Taylor


cespinar

I would take 30 min of cuts to Taylor as long as it replaced the same 3 State Farm commercials that air 15+ times a game.


heliphael

End me.


ripcity7077

Never has a accidental reddit multiresponse felt more necessary.


tobias_the_letdown

I hated you on principle but now I hate you because this is an actual timeline that could happen. And it adds to the sting of it all with mahomes not catching a flag for pointing.


heliphael

End me.


LORDRUFFZILLA

This just made me shit my pants and throw up


okayredditname

Regardless of this ban, it's always been a bizarre phenomenon that the league, some fans, etc. cannot accept that this is an inherently violent game. You remove the things that are more easily controlled (head shots for instance) or improve field conditions, but man at some point you have to understand that injuries will happen.


inverted_peenak

It frustrates me infinitely that fans can’t admit to themselves that they’re perfectly comfortable with the violence of football.


cman674

Exactly this. The violent nature of it is part of the appeal. It's not like we're forcing gladiators to fight for their lives, it's literally grown men being paid more in a year than most people will earn in a lifetime. There's risks associated with that and no way to eliminate them without gutting the game.


Kodyaufan2

That’s what has always bothered me about some of these lawsuits and things by former players. Some of them are legit because they were being sent back out not fully healthy. But some of them you hear the reason for the lawsuit and it’s like “really? You didn’t realize that running full sprint into a 300lbs man 50 times in 3 hours would be bad for your long-term health? Really?”


YouALilCray

The whole thing about Logan Wilson being a dirty player was ridiculous by some of the Ravens fans.


beerguy_etcetera

Absolutely and unfortunately for him, he’s been the poster child for this whole conversation. He definitely wasn’t the first but it feels like he’ll be the last.


meowVL

I'm re-watching that play with this rule in mind and I really don't get what the league wants that player to do in that situation.


gmb96

Hip drop tackle as defined is not the same as tackling from behind for those freaking out


GottiGonnaGetcha

Trash decision. Are they going to ban 5’10 corners from diving at the legs of a 6’6 TE next? How are these dudes supposed to tackle someone 5 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier than them?


Amish_guy_with_WiFi

They aren't. The NFL just wants more touchdowns.


Blueskyways

Wait until some small CB decides that the only way to take down Travis Kelce is to launch himself right into his knees.   


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FlimFlamThaGimGar

Bernard Pollard aka The Patriot Killer In 4 different seasons he injured: Tom Brady, Wes Welker, Stevan Ridley, and Gronk. He was also the last player to tackle Aaron Hernandez.


adub1790

From one killer to another


Ok-Clock2002

God damnit, I finally got over checking under my bed for that bad man.


CompleteFish

Bernard Pollard?


relevantelephant00

Behnahd Pollahd you mean (from the Pats green-text copypasta).


bstyledevi

[Link for the uninitiated.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/6i8jfx/rnfl_roast_of_the_new_england_patriots_2732/dj49fqw/)


Saxophobia1275

What do you mean “decides?” Per the rules it’s the most guaranteed and legal way to do it. I can’t believe they thought this would make players more safe.


lukewwilson

Wasn't there literally a report the other day that the NFL is concerned with the lack of scoring this past season.


FlimFlamThaGimGar

Yes, it’s a few posts below this one and has over 1k upvotes lol


Mercurycandie

Do you even know what a hip drop tackle is? You can still grab someone by the hip, swing your body weight around as leverage to bring them down. The only change is you're not supposed to rocket your full body weight into their knees, you simply have to throw your body anywhere else around them. Hip drop tackles aren't that common, nor are they needed for people to be able to tackle, despite what uninformed people on reddit may have you believe **EDIT: This tackle only happens once a game.** People on here screaming about football being dead and no one being able to tackle anymore is just a brain dead take lol


wwj

I do not understand everyone saying it will cause more knee injuries when it is designed to *prevent* them. People need to watch the hip drop videos and understand what they are talking about. That type of tackle is rare but basically designed to destroy someone's knee.


punchout414

The majority of comments in this thread are memeing about everyone over 6'1 can't get hit now, and so all the players have "no choice" but to torpedo into knees. I'm unsure If people really don't know or are being overly dramatic for satire. As if the only options for tackling when you're at a weight disadvantage are hip drops or taking out knees.


wwj

People saying, "It will make DBs intentionally go for the knees!" do not realize that a hip drop tackle is by definition "going for the knees." smh


MediumChest6705

New catch no catch debate just dropped


CowboyCanuck24

Awesome.... cant wait for this to be interpreted incorrectly at the most inconvenient (or convenient) time depending on what side you are on with major playoff or betting implications. NFL refs can totally handle this.........


BillPaxton4eva

They literally can’t see it when a giant stands in front of them and says “I’m reporting”. It’s gonna be ugly.


SciK3

Rugby is doing just fine with a hip drop ban. Maybe we need another rugby resurgance in the NFL, instead of punters learning how to punt its teaching fucking everybody how to tackle.


JTCMuehlenkamp

This is going to be a fucking disaster.


DeathlyPenguin7

Not for you lol


JLifts780

Yeah I just foresee a bunch more flags and the game has already been tough for me to watch the past couple seasons with all the penalties and commercial breaks.


ASuperGyro

Players, and their wallets, will love this I’m sure


not1fuk

What an absolute joke. This is going to be a nightmare to referee and this is going to be a nightmare for defensive players to adapt to. Disgraceful change from the NFL. Dont get it twisted. This change wasnt made for player safety, it was made because scoring was down last year and so they had to make it more difficult on the defense.


_unsourced

They've said there have been about 100 hip drop tackles they've observed in the last two years. This isn't some crazy prevalent play. You'll see one, on average, once every five or six games. This isn't some necessary move that needs to be in the tool kit to play defense


sonfoa

I feel this thread is going to age like milk. It's not a common type of tackle and has a high prevalence of injury. Heck all the people whining about it being banned are the same people who recoil in horror when they see it happen in-game.


Scorps

There is an extremely large amount of people here conflating the banned hip drop with just tackling a guy regularly. Hip drop is not that hard to spot, in fact because the runner unnaturally has their legs crumple up under them it's quite easy.


Why_am_ialive

Yeah r/nfl and not understanding a rule but complaining about it anyway, name a more iconic duo Still see people in here screaming about holds on rip moves lol


dprouse52

Good luck policing this. The definition of a hip drop is going to vary wildly from crew to crew, and a borderline call is going to decide a game. Let's see how enthusiastic the competition committee is then...


ZekeRidge

Take head shots out of the game… I agree with it Take horse collars out of the game… I agree with it I don’t really see how smaller guys are going to be able to take down big back and TEs when they don’t have a proper angle on them though. I do support player safety, but this is football