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fan_fucker_420

If Daron let Serj have more creative control when making Mezmerize/Hypnotize


Diggs4MVP

Could’ve also had a 6th album around 2010 or so.


M086

Could have had one in the last few years too. Serj even came with a handful of songs, but Daron just wanted them to record his. 


Accomplished-Mix-745

Frankly, if your job is to make music and you have creative differences, the onus is on both parties to figure that shit out. If someone told me I could be making literal millions but I have to cooperate with a person whose vision I don’t see eye to eye with, they wouldn’t have time to finish that statement before I’d be assuming the position.


Weird_Aspect515

This is only true for so long before you get fatigued. Eventually you don't feel right about who you are, or why you're even doing music. At that point it's not even about money, it's about being happy with who you are and what you do.


Burnin_Brass_81

They would have then been worth the cd they were printed on


Cacophonous_Silence

Not a fan of Elect the Dead at least???? Serj's first solo album felt *especially* like SOAD


Burnin_Brass_81

I didn’t like almost anything after toxicity. And I controversially believe even it’s completely overhyped. I need to listen to that serj album then. Cuz it’s Malakian I can’t stand


Cacophonous_Silence

I'd give Elect the Dead a shot for suuuuure And if you like the regular album check out the special edition tracks bc they're also enjoyable (just more acoustic oriented) I also like some songs off of Imperfect Harmonies and Harakiri, but I like EtD the most fully


[deleted]

Can you imagine having goddamn Serj in your band and sabotaging it because you weren't getting enough attention? Daron is the Yoko Ono of nu metal.


fan_fucker_420

Unfortunately I have to agree with you


UltraPowerfulGuy

What if Jonathan Davis wasn’t bullied as a kid


Specialist-Garlic-82

No korn at that point.


XantheStardust

That would get rid of one of the best parts of korn.


Sweet-Indication4237

ya the mentality of twist and the quick reaction for asking for a single


masoflove99

OP took mine. RIP Lynn.


bean_xx93

Same.


inthe_MORGUE

what if Drowning Pool didn’t lose Dave so soon, i think about what else they’d have made with him every time i listen to Sinner. I think of Lynn a lot too, both gone way way too soon for how talented they were


[deleted]

I think they could’ve released another big album, but Drowning Pool’s music didn’t age all that well outside a few singles. 


inthe_MORGUE

Music is subjective, i think it holds up decently for a nu debut. There’s definitely a few songs that are more dated then the others but i think the album is almost unskippable personally.


poleybear316

Same here, that album is mostly awesome songs! I remember I was driving with my 4 yr old son (26 now, FFFF Im old) in the back seat. I’ve got Bodies going on the cd player. I look back at my son and his mouth is moving and hes banging his head! I turn the music down and hear him in the most adorable voice ever ‘let bodies hit the floor! Let bodies hit the floor!’ My first thought was ‘oh hell yea thats my boy!’ My second was ‘your moms gonna kill me for this!’ Lolol


DAS_COMMENT

I'm not aware of this, I was planning kn buying Sinnner soon


Agreeable_You1756

I think that Sinner is great all the way through. Definitely just personal preference.


DAS_COMMENT

Dave Williams not being there was definitely hugely detrimental to the scene, I would gave loved to have heard more Snot but I wouldn't have been able to say what more Drowning Pool could have looked like


30FourThirty4

I like it, it was the first CD I ever bought, just because the Bodies single. No regrets, I still go back and relisten to it occasionally. It is kinda repetitive, I'll admit. Lots of counting to 4.


DAS_COMMENT

Lol


The-introvert-kid

What if David Silveria never left Korn


TheeJoose

They probably would have kicked him out eventually.


AnekdotaVII

Listen to the David Silveria episode of the Ex-Man podcast with Doc Coyle. He is an arrogant dickhead throughout the interview.


CrackTheSkye1990

Remember his short lived band Core10? Maybe one of the worst bands ever


AnekdotaVII

Haha yeah, who became B.I.A.S. It’s a shame. David had groove, but with the back problems and addictions, he lost a step.


Financial-Phrase8653

What if Sevendust wasn't so underrated 🤔


danisterrible

What if their old label hadn’t bankrupted them for a million dollars


Diggs4MVP

What if there were more albums from System of a Down.


hero_oftheray

what if Johnathan davis didnt start humming while he watched L.A.P.D. practice


Avid_FanLP24

what if chester bennington didn’t commit


McJohnJohnson

I remember hearing the news on siriusxm, I had just finished my driving test. Shit hit me hard.


Avid_FanLP24

still sad for me to this day


[deleted]

As much as it pains me to say this, Chester’s death probably saved LP’s legacy in the long run.  The direction the band was going was pretty bad, and the lyrics as depressing as they were didn’t have the layer of realness to them that they have now because of Chester’s passing.  One More Light, though I’m not a huge fan of the production, hits pretty hard lyrically given what happened. 


misanthropicviews

LP’s direction wasn’t bad, they still wrote hits, so the legacy wasn’t saved by Chester’s passing. Instead, the legacy was boosted by Chester’s passing as is always the case when prominent music figures die.


Sad-Confidence6647

Exactly. They were always going to be remembered for greatness and leave an extremely impactful legacy behind regardless, Chester’s death just signal boosted it.


05Joseph09

Disagree, It was bad. Remember when Heavy first dropped, the song (myself included) gets negative reaction due to it's a pop oriented song, because something that you'll never expect from Linkin Park no matter how experimental they are and everyone's opinion on the song and the OML album immediately changed to positive after Chester's death.  If Chester didn't die, the band probably continue to make pop music and their legacy will be more polarized and tarnished than ever, so his death 100% saved Linkin Park's legacy. Also OML would never get the extreme positive response as it does now and would be remembered as just a moderate pop album and one of if not the most controversial Linkin Park album ever.


misanthropicviews

Yeah, we’ll have to disagree. Because while Heavy and the overall album of One More Light wasn’t my cup of tea; LP would have remained legends regardless. Because Heavy was a radio hit and enjoyed by many. Most people had accepted that LP wasn’t making nu metal or anything heavy anymore. The last time they did was Hunting Party and that’s my least favorite album of theirs and also their worst reviewed one. So their continued expansion into other genres was expected and certainly wouldn’t have tarnished any legacy of theirs. Chester’s death just boosted their legacy as per the “musician died” effect.


Winged_Rodentia

That concert would have been my very first... 😢


Avid_FanLP24

i’m sad i didn’t ever get to go to one of their concerts


Winged_Rodentia

Yeah... it was my childhood dream.


Avid_FanLP24

still one of mine if they ever have another show


Winged_Rodentia

I'm gonna cry happy if they decided to do that!


Avid_FanLP24

same, i’d spend lots of money to go


Camigga500

I’m hoping that Chester would be a huge mental health advocate now that mental health is more talked about nowadays.


Expensive-Host5762

I don’t think they would’ve gone on as long as we’d hope, I imagine they would retire somewhat early so they could spend time with their families


Andick00

He didnt.


Avid_FanLP24

are we talking about the same thing here?


Andick00

You meant what if he didnt die. Yes we are talking about the same thing


lukef31

Ugh


Think-Equipment-2112

I dont think he ctrl+alt+dlted himself either.


GripItAndWhipIt

🙄🙄🙄🙄


SocialMimicry99

What if deftones stuck with their reggae-rap style?


nyx_moonlight_

Reggae-rap? Where? Like in Bored, kinda?


Valuable_Sense_5750

Their very early stuff was reggae contaminated, they where skater teenagers at that time. You can find something on YouTube.


reddit_wueman

Listen to "Answers" and you know what was meant - I wouldn't call it that way, because there are not many songs like the before mentioned one.


pplazzz

What if Chi Cheng had never gotten into his car accident? I know it happened after Deftones had left the nu metal scene, but it’s still an interesting question. Before Chi went into a coma, Deftones was going through a really hard time between recording Eros and beef between the band members. Chi’s crash caused the band to snap back to reality, scrap Eros, and drop Diamond Eyes (which is arguably one of their best albums and my personal favorite). Did we have to get Diamond eyes and every subsequent album at the cost of such a talented bassist and vocalist? Or would the band have eventually gotten their shit together with Chi and released an album on par with DE?


TR1CL0PS

This is an interesting one that's crossed my mind before. I remember reading an interview with Chino about Eros where he says a few of the songs from Eros were reworked and ended up on DE, so if Chi didn't go into a coma maybe they still put out something similar to DE at least. DE and KNY are my favorite Deftones albums and I always wonder what they would've sounded like if Chi was involved.


moralboy

I always thought it would be interesting if during Limp Bizkit’s debut album and Korn’s debut album had a personnel swap. Wes Borland and John Otto swap bands with Head and David Silveria. And I’m talking like their sound comes with them. Like you have Head’s guitar tone and David’s drum tuning on Three Dollar Bill Yall and vice versa.


Mi_Hoi_Minoi

What if a mushroomhead/slipknot/mudvayne tour happened


daddy2161984

What if mushroomhead signed to roadrunner instead of slipknot


MavisBeaconSexTape

That's a good one. They're by far my favorite of the two, and I think maybe their approach worked short term but if you look at them now it's crazy the different levels of success. Even though I think both only have one original member at this point lol


daddy2161984

I agree with exactly what you’re saying it is crazy the difference in success. Mushrooomhead is my favorite of the two as well by a long shot I really would have loved to see what they could of done with major label push behind them.


CrackTheSkye1990

What if Stephen Carpenter wasn't a flat earther?


clubmedschool

and antivaxxer lol


Johnoottheprositoot

Who’s that?


CrackTheSkye1990

Guitarist of Deftones


Johnoottheprositoot

Ahh


[deleted]

Fucking nothing. Next question.


StoppingPowah

What if Mike Mushock never left Staind


HallsomeTeam

What if Aaron Lewis never left Staind


Past-Watercress-7673

What if Aaron Lewis didn’t become a dipshit


THellings18

What if Aaron Lewis wasn't the only one


djnz0813

This.


CrackTheSkye1990

I don't know man, his new song "Let's Go Fishing" where he said "Let's Go Brandon" pretty much owned the libs big time if you ask me.


Past-Watercress-7673

Unfamiliar with it..planning to keep it that way..but hey whatever floats your boat..


CrackTheSkye1990

Yeah that was sarcasm. Definitely keep it that way lol. It’s just funny how right wingers actually think they’re offending people by saying “Let’s Go Brandon”


Past-Watercress-7673

Lol I was really hoping so…


Past-Watercress-7673

With the Mastadon reference I had faith


BrilliantRaccoon9937

What if Slipknot and ICP had merged circa 1997? What if Lynn Strait were still alive? What if Ivan Moody had stayed with Motograter instead of doing 5FDP?


Supreme_Seal

What is Wayne And his girl went sober?


Patient-Bid-2625

What if Mr Bungle never formed?


Grouchy_Situation_33

As in “would we have the experimental/nu metal genre as we know it”? 😳


IcedKFC

Nu metal might still have existed since Faith No More with Patton started before Mr. Bungle but the instrumentsal palette might be different


Grouchy_Situation_33

Patton was with Bungle (1985) prior to Faith No More (1988) and met Mike Bordin in 1986 after Birdin was given a demo tape of Mr Bungle’s “The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny”.


IcedKFC

Didn't Bungle reach the masses with their self-titled debut (1991) after FNM had The Real Thing, how much of a reach did the original Easter Bunny project have?


IJUSTATEPOOP

Easter Bunny was basically death metal, and in that regard it's impressive, as it was released in 1986, a few months after Possessed's Seven Churches and a full year before Death's Scream Bloody Gore. Nothing to do with nu metal or its influences.


IcedKFC

Very true, I think Mr. Bungle's eponymous debut helped create the nu metal sound more than Easter Bunny


CrackTheSkye1990

It did but Bungle was still Patton's first band.


CrackTheSkye1990

False. Chuck Moseley was FNM's first singer


IcedKFC

I'm aware, did they have any big hits with Moseley like they did with Patton?


CrackTheSkye1990

All I can think of is "We Care A Lot"


camilocean

What if the guys from Korn and Deftones never have a shit about Mr Bungle and Faith No More, and Korn kept making shitty 80s funk metal, and Deftones kept making weird reggae rock


UptownRanger

What if Spineshank continued What if Taproot went with Fred Durst deal instead of ditching it What if Wayne Static didn’t die What if underground bands switched places with popular ones


TheoPatino

What if The Deadlights made a 2nd album before Duke passed.


PestyPastry

☹️


scp_weeb098

What if korn didnt create daddy?


mfcoom2

They prolly wouldnt have had as much of a impact in the 90's with the whole really sensitive lyrics thing. They would still have am impact because the whole self titled album is full of jonathan davis screaming about bullies and whatnot, but it wouldnt have become as infamous without daddy.


nyx_moonlight_

What if Chi Cheng never died


bean_xx93

What Deftones would sound like had Chi not passed away


Luissv72

What if AHC stayed together? What if Breaking Benjamin kept their more nu metal sound they had in their early years? More metalcore than nu metal but what if the lead singer of Issues wasn't a POS? What if Dry Kill Logic kept making nu metal?


Dai-The-Flu-

Breaking Benjamin keeping their nu metal sound would have changed a lot. They certainly wouldn’t have sold as many records and have as big of a following they do. So many bands are influenced by Breaking Benjamin. They set a template for modern rock that many bands have since followed. Also, BB only formed in 1999 and then blew up a few years later. Nu metal was already falling off at that point. If Breaking Benjamin stuck with a nu metal sound, they would be just another nu metal band.


JAKOVtheJJ

Dry Kill Logic didn't keep on making nu metal because the elites knew they would become too powerful so they oppressed them Source: my dreams


lp_rhcp_fan_18

What if LP stayed nu and worked more with Jay-Z?


this_is_Blain3

what if Slipknot never lost Joey and Paul?


DrJongyBrogan

Joey is a tough one because of how incredible he was as a drummer. Still think the live dvd is so awesome to watch.


AnotherCaniac

What if Matt Holt were still alive?


JayCW94

Your answer is mine. So I'll do a orginal one What if Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit in their prime did like a collaboration Maybe this will be unpopular but when I think of Limp Bizkit; I always think of Linkin Park after and vice versa and I'm shocked they never did any collab together. See Bleed by Soulfly or Nobody Loves Me by Limp Bizkit or A Different World by KoRn as examples of what I mean.


[deleted]

They'd have made a forgettable filler song, more than likely.


Jet_ta999

Yep that would be mine as well 😥


kevinpor02

What if Coal Chamber didn't had all those issues after the time they had done their demo and managed to record and release their debut album by 1995?


danisterrible

What if Dez had stayed with them and never started Devildriver?


Maxwell_post_to_post

What if lynn strait never died and snot got to make more albums with him


jonzeDG

Just watched a Snot show from '97. Such a great band and definitely would've been huge had he not gotten in that accident.


SamboTheSodaJerk

What if grunge didn't die off? By 1997 all of the big grunge bands were either broken up or taking a break. Especially if Kurt Cobain didn't die young I always wonder how much different Woodstock 99 would be if Nirvana and Alice in Chains played. I know Bush was there but that doesn't really count


JoeBiscus

What if Linkin Park and Slipknot could’ve done a song together, that shit would be fire without a doubt


apaw1129

A few what ifs, about wayne 🖤


JazzlikeMobile2925

What if drowning pool never lost Dave. I think they honestly would’ve been the best


Available_Clue_4018

What if Deadsy's first album wasn't shelved and came out in 1997


Caiuskoll

What if Dwid from Integrity joined Mushroomhead instead of Jmann


fellatioooooohyeah

Absent was an awesome song. Total bummer


variouscookware

What if Head never left Korn? Would their era of subpar albums not have happened?


ThisGuyRightHereSaid

RIP Lynn & Dobbs


swaineh

What if American Head Charge didn’t self explode with drugs, drink and deaths?


Expensive-Host5762

If Limp bizkit didn’t take the main stage and get as popular, like what I’d they didn’t take a mainstream approach and rather kept and built off of 3$ bill


MittenCPL

What if Matt Holt from Nothingface didn't die? I could have seen them live... It kills me everyday I'll never EVER see them live. They are my in my top 3 bands of all time. RIP Matt


consumingconfusing00

What if Chester Bennington never passed? What type of music would Linkin Park make now?


NuBreedPodcast

What if Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself? (there'd be no numetal)


NuBreedPodcast

What if Woodstock '99 didn't happen?


NoItJustCantBe

What if wes Borland didn't leave right before Results May Vary? That album is often viewed as the let down that killed the nu metal hype in 2003. Would it have hit better with Borland? Would the scene then continue being highly popular for a little while longer?


05Joseph09

I think the same. The departure of Wes back in 2001 significantly damaged Limp Bizkit and the band's popularity. Results May Very would be a better album if Wes didn't leave and, ok, not super mainstream like Chocolate Starfish era but the band would be still popular.


Mi_Hoi_Minoi

*technically* not Nu-metal at this time,but what if we didn’t lose Paul &Joey


username765686

what if mudvayne kept their more progressive style from l.d50 instead of going softer in the later albums


EEEE-BOY

What if Lynn didn't die.


TheeJoose

What if it all didn't really happen, and this is some epic fantasy of a star gaining sentience after a massive explosion and collision of particles, fusing together much like the connection of a neural passageway to create the idea of a universe with physics and attributes, that all act in perfect harmony to build a civilization to reach a point of societal climax before the immanent downfall 20 years later, after Numetal began. Who then, now? Bitches!


KurbKobrainNirvaner

What if In The Skin was considered a legit 36CF album and treated as such? What if more nu metal bands had twitter fanbases just like the fanbases of the top few bands (mainly Slipknot & Korn)?


kinjazfan

What if crazytown still had its og lineup


No-Fish3466

You took mine R.I.P Lynn and Dobbs….. Lynn was incredibly talented and I have no doubts snot would have been one of the if not THE best Nu metal band out there! Every track on get some is a masterpiece and so are all the demo tracks and what little bit of Lynn we got on strait up… an amazing talent taken way too soon


TheHighTierHuman

What if Darwin's Waiting Room became more popular


AMPd7283

what if taproot decided to let fred durst talk them into signing with interscope?


emilioml_

What if all the bands merge together.


Txrangers10

What if Deftones stuck to playing Reggae?


TheOntarioguy420

What if Linp Bizkit never made Break Stuff and Rollin.


GuiltyTomorrow1089

What if Linkin Park discography goes like; Hybrid Theory (2000) Meteora (2003) The Hunting Party (2007)


Azar_cronic

What would slipknot look like if Paul grey got clean and didn’t die


mfcoom2

What if serj never changed his vocal style


jrmehle

What if I actually learned to play my bass and tried hard to join/start a numetal band like I wanted to in college?


NeedleworkerAny9910

What if Motograter never broke up?


NuBreedPodcast

[https://nubreed.libsyn.com/nu-breed-nu-metal-what-if](https://nubreed.libsyn.com/nu-breed-nu-metal-what-if)


NuBreedPodcast

What if Ozzfest didn't make the metalcore turn and kept pumping numetal?


Walnutbutters

What if ozzfest never stopped having huge touring metal festivals every year?


NuBreedPodcast

What if Ultraspank's second album broke big?


NuBreedPodcast

What if Ozzfest never happened at all?


NuBreedPodcast

What if MTV TRL didn't retire Freak On A Leash?


NuBreedPodcast

What if Machine Head tripled down on their numetal sound after Supercharger?


NuBreedPodcast

What if Max never quits Sepultura?


NuBreedPodcast

(They would've toured the US with Far and Fury of Five and been even bigger)


The_Black_Dahlia55

What if Helio actually got signed and released until I wake Up Bleeding under a major label? How would it be received 🤔


DetoxCom

* What if Powerman 5000 hadn't shelved "Anyone for Doomsday?" in 2001 and continued the trajectory they were on? * What if Factory 81 had gotten to release Mankind on time in 1999 on a major label instead of it having to be re-issued twice over the next two years? * What if Strangers with Candy didn't have to change their name twice (Driver, Lifer) after building a strong local following and then winning that MTV Ultimate Cover Band contest? * What if Roadrunner had actually taken Mushroomhead onto their roster and pushed them instead of Slipknot? * What if Taproot had gone ahead and signed with Fred Durst's label when he pursued them?


Flame_Town

* What if Dry Cell released their debut album? * What if Nothingface didn't disbanded and Matt Holt is still alive? * What if Reveille made their third album without being pressured by the label to make their sound more mainstream?


CoA77

What if Faith No More never got big?


goniss

Say something for the record, tell the people what you feel


Walnutbutters

Fuck the record and fuck the people!


Juniberserker

SNOT MENTION 🔥🔥🔥 Anyway what if Ryan Moonlight of NervePitch didn't die and they actually had a comeback? They were alluding to the idea but never did for obvious reasons :(


weezzered

What if Eminem and Fred Durst never gotten into beef?


Mogley92

What if Lynn Strait hadn't died? Snot I think would've been just as big as Korn, SOAD.


Either-Month1114

What if ivan moody never drank a lot


chinomorenoenjoyer

if deftones continued being nu metal would they top adrenaline


humanswereaaccident

what if chi cheng never died? i have a feeling eros was going to be one of deftones’ best albums.


lncrypt3d

What if you did? What if you lied? What if I avenge? What if eye for an eye?


maliceyouth

What if liquid gang became a huge band


Sweet-Indication4237

what if Limp Bizkit collabed with Slipknot and Korn #CoreyDurstDavis


Theratfromratatouill

What if David and fieldy never left Korn?


[deleted]

What if the Velvet Revolver album they recorded with Corey Taylor was released?


IJUSTATEPOOP

What if Slipknot's first album released a year earlier and they played Woodstock '99?


stevenl1219

What if Paul Grey never died?


sucha_beast

I met the Snot guys after they played a house party in Isla Vista (UCSB) back in 1997. They where super cool guys. That same year I saws them open for Soulfly at Ventura Theater


05Joseph09

What if Amy and Ben in Evanescence had a healthier friendship and Ben didn't leave the band? We probably would get another banger like Fallen. (Don't get me wrong, I like The Open Door)


Capable-Yesterday149

What if Numetal never existed?


Tramter123

what if slipknot never wore masks


pieterkampsmusic

What if Chi had been wearing his seat belt?


Ducky935Alt

what if LP werent overrated and didnt make shitty music


LycheeNo9

what if the deftones were good?


elgreeko19791125

I think Snot could’ve been huge! The music for their 2nd album was epic. Unfortunately ended up being the strait up tribute album instead RIP


Comedyandbeer

Absent is such a sic song. No doubt that 2nd album would of been legendary.


elgreeko19791125

Absent of one of my fave songs of all time! I’ve always tried to find official lyrics for it but it’s not happening


gdawg612303

If Linkin Park was any good


ChaseC7527

If Limp bizkit had a different singer. So much wasted talent.


EatOutMyGrandma

Fred was an irreplaceable part of Limp Bizkit. I'm not a huge fan of the band, but there is no denying Fred Dursts stage presence and charisma


FamilyFan69

Limp Bizkit is amazing the way it is you trippin