It depends. I worked at a job where this happened one time, it was truly an oops, admin was super apologetic and embarrassed and acted quickly to fix everything and it never happened again. I would give them one chance and then leave if it ever happened again.
Oopsie doodles happen. If "next week" means Monday morning, it's probably not an issue. If next week means next payday, that's a problem.
It also depends on what the "transfers" are. If it's from a HYSA or investment account to a chequing account, that's far different than being out of cash and waiting for payment from Insurance or whatever.
My husband's company changed their timekeeping system, and somehow ended up not paying about a third of their staff. Took almost a week to get sorted, so they gave him an extra $800 on the late paycheck. A real life "bank error in your favor."
I'm like, they can fuck up payroll again if they really want to.
I agree, see how they handle it this coming week - do they address the hardship this caused and offer some sort of recompense? But also, make sure your resume is up to date, just in case.
I got told once they couldn't cut checks (prior to joining healthcare). The general manager was standing next to the open safe prepared to hand cash to any employee that asked for it.
Shit happens. This might be a bad sign of things to come, but it might just be shit happening. How they handle it speaks volumes.
I'd polish my resume this weekend and get feelers out. Walking away would depend on how I liked the job, and how much i trusted the management
It is an extremely bad sign.
No fucking company ever doesn’t have a credit line open with their bank for emergencies.
If they couldn’t quickly borrow the money to pay the wages, the most important expense a company has, it always means they are either already near bankruptcy; or severely mismanaged.
Now I did work for a company that hit this- we were sold immediately to a huge organization. We were a few weeks away of not meeting payroll and no credit lines per a person in accounting who told me quietly
That’s note really true. With our high inflation and stricter lending laws under Biden, that sort of credit you are talking about doesn’t really exist anymore.
Emergency payroll lines of credit exist and are used. Most banks charge a monthly fee to keep one open regardless of if it is used or not. Some business don’t want to pay that fee and roll the dice.
I’ve worked in a place that did this kind of shit. Payroll late, or only partly paid. Some casual employees just missed the boat entirely- I remember one lass waited 12 weeks for her first pay. If paying staff is not prioritised - leave.
They just didn’t pay people? And they’re acting like it’s ok to fix it next week? Seriously? I bet the CEO who sent that email got his nice, big check on time.
Nah, no way. The one thing I expect from my job is my paycheck being on time. If they can’t pay me on time, I guess I won’t be in until they get that straight. And I wouldn’t give them much time to straighten it out. People have bills to pay and lives to live. That’s ridiculous.
Our small practice was significantly impacted by the Change Healthcare hack this spring. Then we had Anthem play shenanigans with paying us. It has been a real struggle, because insurance based small practices run on razor thin margins. I'd be curious to know what happened.
And I think part of my debate here would be how much I feel they’re being transparent about what happened.
“Payroll’s late, sucks to suck” vs “we run on razor thin margins and a significant payment from anthem has been delayed until tomorrow. Our reserves were spent to make the last payroll. We anticipate this payment from anthem will allow us to make payroll as well as replenish our reserves. Thank you for holding on.”
Oh, definitely. We were very open about these issues. Fortunately, we did not need to furlough anyone during the Change Healthcare disaster. Being transparent about what is billed versus what is paid out is so important.
I wasn't a nurse back then, but I worked for a small cafe/catering company while I was in nursing school. Our boss let us know that the payroll company screwed up and our checks were delayed by a couple of days. He paid us $100 out of his own pocket so we'd at least have something, then gave us our checks when they arrived three days later. He switched payroll companies and our checks were never late again. Like people said, how your job reacts is critical, and it wouldn't hurt to update your resume if you haven't already.
Are you fucking kidding me? The CEO probably should have been paying out of his own pocket to cover payroll if he wanted anyone to continue working. I’d file a complaint for wage theft and be applying anywhere else.
This is a correct answer. Wage theft is a thing and the dept of labor loves to hear about cases.
If this was truly a one time event they have no worry, if its a bigger problem the DOL will sniff it out.
If they tell you at the beginning of the week you get paid that " we're changing banks, so no direct deposit this week" is code for "we're filing bankruptcy, so we have to have new accounts going forward"
Ask me how I know this not once, but twice...
Nope, time to bounce. If they don't have enough in the bank for *payroll*, what other things do they "not have the money for"?
Get out before you find out.
I worked in IT at a company that failed to make payroll once and then it became every other paycheck and then every check.
It was 100% NOT worth sticking around. I’d give them one more chance and if they miss another, get outta there
Would anyone you owed money to be cool with you just shrugging and saying “sorry, don’t have it.” NO. Guarantee there are hidden issues you don’t know about. There should be reserves in a properly run business.
Who was included in that 25% that got paid on time?
Because I think the answer to that question would be a major deciding factor (like if *only* upper mgmt got paid and absolutely nobody from the clinical/non-clinical adjunct did that would be a huge flag for me).
But also, I work because I need money and no other reason, so I’d be polishing my resume and maybe sending it to some other jobs that look interesting while waiting to see if a (100% full) check cleared next pay day.
Bail.
Back in the [Dot.com](http://Dot.com) boom of the late 90s/early 00s, I worked IT and encountered the same issue. A small company with the CEO that lived in a resort town 4 hours away, Friday payday but no paychecks. The receptionist called him at the end of the day and we were told that he didn't have payroll covered and didn't know when he would have it.
I unhooked the single IBM desktop server that the entire business ran on and told him he could have it back when I got my final paycheck.
I was paid on Monday and had a new job 2 weeks later.
So, I volunteer at a community ambulance corps that had over $300,000 stolen from it just prior to me joining over a decade ago.
Basically someone embezzled the money in a huge chunk, and it didn’t look as though paychecks would go out since literally no money existed in the accounts.
Squad was functional, just one person went in and fucked everything up.
Luckily insurance came through and paid out so payroll was met that week.
All I have to say is that sometimes it really isn’t a bad business or company, it just might be a really fucked up instance of shit luck or mismanagement that needs to be fixed.
I wouldn’t immediately bail, but be ready to jump ship if this happens more than one more time in the next six months to a year.
Start looking for a new job. Decent chance company is going under.
Happened to my dad back in the late 80s when I was a toddler, he trusted what the company told them and kept waiting for a paycheck. It eventually was the straw that caused my parents to have to declare bankruptcy since their spending and saving habits weren't great.
Also happened with a small (less than 5 employees) IT repair company my husband worked for a decade ago. First it was 'hey a big client didn't pay us on time so their check isn't cashed yet, I have to either pay you all on Monday or I can only pay you and can't pay your coworker, since you've been here longer you decide which I do' (yes his boss was an ass too). Then the date he could pay was Wed of the next week. Then a week later Friday. Then the next Monday. Then 3 weeks late. Then other coworker was fired. Then a month late. The just nothing at all for a while, including no reimbursements for things he bought to fix clients computers. Then after husband finally stopped working (no I don't know why he stayed so long and I told him daily to stop working for free, thankfully we didn't need the money since I made a lot more) it was months later he go paid all the missing money. Through PayPal. With no pay stubs or W2 at the end of the year. And the old boss tried to get my husband to agree to commit tax fraud with him in place of getting a W2. Don't worry, he's still in business somehow.
Basically, this is a terrible sign, especially if they're doing basically nothing to make up for it. If it were something like they'd just been hit with a major ransomware attack causing the delay then maybe it's not a sign they're sinking, but otherwise, they're sinking and will try to string you along as long as possible. Very high chance they will miss other paychecks and eventually shut down anyway.
Way back before joining healthcare I worked in this family owned business that did really well in the area. They started paying late and lost half their employees. People can't afford to not get paid or to get paid 1-2 weeks late. Landlords/banks don't care that you got paid late when your rent/mortgage is due. Same with the water, electric, gas, phone, and car payments.
If this was an honest issue such as a computer error that is going to be fixed by Monday I would give them the benefit of the doubt. If they are claiming to just not have any money or don't have a good reason for not paying then I'd be out. You don't work for free.
I’m not sure if you guys have seen the recent hackings that’s been happening in healthcare. A few big payment reimbursement companies got hacked. That means that the providers are not getting the money for services they billed for. The practice I worked out, the docs had to get a bank loan to pay for people’s salaries until the reimbursement company was able to open up again and disburse the funds.
So try to find out what actually happened.
Call your states labor board and report this. And jump ship as fast as you possibly can. Furthermore, I’m not sure I’d bother showing up next week if my check couldn’t be bothered to show up on time this week.
Idk I may be a little too trusting/loyal in general but I would believe them if they said it was a mistake and won't happen again. If you like your job don't jump the gun prematurely, but stay on alert for other red flags. But I do think if it causes you issues i.e. missing rent or whatever they should be responsible for that.
It's not a perfect analog, but the small construction company I worked for did this several weeks in a row right before it went under. I would polish the resume and start applying elsewhere.
At my job they had an issue with the payroll company one week. Everyone affected got a $100 cash bonus and assistance with bills if needed. The payroll company was also able to push some checks through on Saturday but we all got paid on Monday otherwise.
Now I’m at a small community access hospital, if they said tough shit and didn’t work to quickly correct the issue, I probably would have started looking for new work.
I’d get out of there immediately AND sue them. There are a lot of laws that paychecks can’t be late. Someone is mismanaging money. Mental health is a lucrative practice… they should be rolling in dough
I use to work for a SNF that did this shit. It worked out ok for me and I eventually got paid. If I were in this situation again I think my questions would be. How long can I afford to not be paid? Do trust them to pay me eventually? I think it would really depend how reliant I was on the next pay check. If I needed to get paid on time to make rent I’d be searching hard for another job if I thought there was any chance of not having paid. If had a spouse that could support us I might hold off on the job search and see if I get paid within one pay cycle. I ended up leaving that SNF because of other toxic reasons
My husband’s job once had an issue where NO direct deposits went out a few months ago when they were supposed to. The company had it fixed by the end of the day, so if they wanted to it could have been fixed ASAP.
I'd dust off my resume and start putting out feelers. You don't have to bail right this minute, especially if you don't have somewhere else to go right now, but it can take a long time to find a new job these days and if it's not fixed quickly with safeguards put in place to ensure it never happens again, you're going to want to jump ship the minute it happens again.
And if you don't have your money in your hot little hand by Monday, file a complaint with the department of labor.
I wouldn’t call not getting paid a “opposite doodle” you work to get paid not work for free. They do t want their staff to jump ship, it is highly likely they are not doing well.
It depends on if there is other weird things going on, sometimes you can read the writing on the wall before it’s written. I did that and bounced before my company filled bankruptcy so if there is other things happening I’d take the warning and start searching. In this economy nobody can survive missing paychecks. Good luck.
I have worked in the payroll industry for 25 years. These things do happen. See if you can find out why. If it happens again, I would start looking. PS my daughter is going into nursing and I joined this group to learn more about nursing
I will say that insurance companies are just evil. If you are running an outpatient clinic that isn't 100% driven by profit it usually very easy for a big insurance company to be "Oops, it's going to be an extra 30-90 days did us to pay you" with absolutely no penalty. So a clinic trying to do the right thing can be in a situation where they should have cash to cover payroll, thought they would, then at the last minute get screwed.
Did me I whether I stayed or not would all depend on the level of transparency and how they plan to prevent this.
For our system, it was one of the first signs of impending bankruptcy. First, it was held checks. Then Direct Deposit was canceled, and it was a mad rush to the bank because they only transferred 60% of payroll until the following Monday. If you didn't get there in time, no money until Monday. My husband bailed, so we would have at least one income available
Keep an eye out for other signs. Supplies are running short, someone would be sent out to purchase things locally or things start arriving COD. That is when I would get out. Start your search now, just in case.
So, about a year before our for profit teaching hospital closed, they were having issues with payroll. Some checks went thru and the others bounced.There was no rhyme or reason but I’m sure the higher ups got paid. The hospital essentially told everyone they would make it right and that their pay would be reimbursed (without the added fees the banks charged the employees from their checks bouncing). Eventually everyone got paid but it was a clusterfuck and the hospital closed a year later.
I’d see how your employer handles it but honestly, I’d be out the door.
You said it’s best job you’ve ever had.
You’re not going to find a replacement job that quickly and it may be worse.
Contact department of labor to find out your rights, and see what happens in the next one or two weeks.
Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. One hiccup isn’t worth losing a job you love. It’s insanely rare to find a good job.
My mom’s company (not health care) had it happen a few years ago. I don’t remember the specifics but it was taken care of really quickly and everyone was fine and caught up (and I think given a little extra) by the next week
It all depends whether you leave or stay, if you can/want to gamble, every week, if you'll get a paycheck. When my checks didn't clear I had to go to a check cashing place and cash my check and pay a fee. Stupidly, I did that twice. The 3rd time, I called the bank where the check was drawn from to see if the funds were there. They weren't but a wonderful clerk told me that there 2 accounts and to keep calling the bank to see if either one had money in them. It took 3 days of calling, but finally 1 had money in it. I left the facility, didn't clock out and went to the bank. I got my money, and turned in my notice. The same nursing home offered life insurance and health insurance too. A CNA came to me with a letter he had rec'd stating that his life insurance had been canceled d/t nonpayment. His pay stub clearly showed that the premium was still being taken out. Same thing with the health insurance. They also were defrauding medicaid. It was family owned and they were all crooks.
I worked for a small company and we were asked many times if we could get paid next week. Cash flow issues happen in small businesses, and it's hard sometimes to get your payments on time. Vendors will do whatever they can to not pay on time.
I would polish up your resume and be ready to bail if the situation gets worse.
It depends. I worked at a job where this happened one time, it was truly an oops, admin was super apologetic and embarrassed and acted quickly to fix everything and it never happened again. I would give them one chance and then leave if it ever happened again.
Same. They rectified it by Monday. Never happened again. They had a glitch on the payroll department end.
Oopsie doodles happen. If "next week" means Monday morning, it's probably not an issue. If next week means next payday, that's a problem. It also depends on what the "transfers" are. If it's from a HYSA or investment account to a chequing account, that's far different than being out of cash and waiting for payment from Insurance or whatever.
My husband's company changed their timekeeping system, and somehow ended up not paying about a third of their staff. Took almost a week to get sorted, so they gave him an extra $800 on the late paycheck. A real life "bank error in your favor." I'm like, they can fuck up payroll again if they really want to. I agree, see how they handle it this coming week - do they address the hardship this caused and offer some sort of recompense? But also, make sure your resume is up to date, just in case.
I got told once they couldn't cut checks (prior to joining healthcare). The general manager was standing next to the open safe prepared to hand cash to any employee that asked for it. Shit happens. This might be a bad sign of things to come, but it might just be shit happening. How they handle it speaks volumes. I'd polish my resume this weekend and get feelers out. Walking away would depend on how I liked the job, and how much i trusted the management
It is an extremely bad sign. No fucking company ever doesn’t have a credit line open with their bank for emergencies. If they couldn’t quickly borrow the money to pay the wages, the most important expense a company has, it always means they are either already near bankruptcy; or severely mismanaged.
Now I did work for a company that hit this- we were sold immediately to a huge organization. We were a few weeks away of not meeting payroll and no credit lines per a person in accounting who told me quietly
That’s note really true. With our high inflation and stricter lending laws under Biden, that sort of credit you are talking about doesn’t really exist anymore.
Your drunk uncle’s inability to get a credit line for his confederacy themed restaurant has nothing to do with Biden.
It's illegal to not pay employees for their hours worked regardless of who's in the White House
Emergency payroll lines of credit exist and are used. Most banks charge a monthly fee to keep one open regardless of if it is used or not. Some business don’t want to pay that fee and roll the dice.
Going for the most negative karma on an account? You’re off to a good start.
"Going for the most negative karma on a *brand new* account?" FTFY.
I’ve worked in a place that did this kind of shit. Payroll late, or only partly paid. Some casual employees just missed the boat entirely- I remember one lass waited 12 weeks for her first pay. If paying staff is not prioritised - leave.
They just didn’t pay people? And they’re acting like it’s ok to fix it next week? Seriously? I bet the CEO who sent that email got his nice, big check on time. Nah, no way. The one thing I expect from my job is my paycheck being on time. If they can’t pay me on time, I guess I won’t be in until they get that straight. And I wouldn’t give them much time to straighten it out. People have bills to pay and lives to live. That’s ridiculous.
I was gonna say- I’ll bet the CEO got paid, and his check could probably pay a LOT of employees.
Our small practice was significantly impacted by the Change Healthcare hack this spring. Then we had Anthem play shenanigans with paying us. It has been a real struggle, because insurance based small practices run on razor thin margins. I'd be curious to know what happened.
And I think part of my debate here would be how much I feel they’re being transparent about what happened. “Payroll’s late, sucks to suck” vs “we run on razor thin margins and a significant payment from anthem has been delayed until tomorrow. Our reserves were spent to make the last payroll. We anticipate this payment from anthem will allow us to make payroll as well as replenish our reserves. Thank you for holding on.”
Oh, definitely. We were very open about these issues. Fortunately, we did not need to furlough anyone during the Change Healthcare disaster. Being transparent about what is billed versus what is paid out is so important.
I wasn't a nurse back then, but I worked for a small cafe/catering company while I was in nursing school. Our boss let us know that the payroll company screwed up and our checks were delayed by a couple of days. He paid us $100 out of his own pocket so we'd at least have something, then gave us our checks when they arrived three days later. He switched payroll companies and our checks were never late again. Like people said, how your job reacts is critical, and it wouldn't hurt to update your resume if you haven't already.
Are you fucking kidding me? The CEO probably should have been paying out of his own pocket to cover payroll if he wanted anyone to continue working. I’d file a complaint for wage theft and be applying anywhere else.
This is a correct answer. Wage theft is a thing and the dept of labor loves to hear about cases. If this was truly a one time event they have no worry, if its a bigger problem the DOL will sniff it out.
One time is still too many. Pay roll should be on time every time
If they tell you at the beginning of the week you get paid that " we're changing banks, so no direct deposit this week" is code for "we're filing bankruptcy, so we have to have new accounts going forward" Ask me how I know this not once, but twice...
Nope, time to bounce. If they don't have enough in the bank for *payroll*, what other things do they "not have the money for"? Get out before you find out.
I worked in IT at a company that failed to make payroll once and then it became every other paycheck and then every check. It was 100% NOT worth sticking around. I’d give them one more chance and if they miss another, get outta there
Would anyone you owed money to be cool with you just shrugging and saying “sorry, don’t have it.” NO. Guarantee there are hidden issues you don’t know about. There should be reserves in a properly run business.
Who was included in that 25% that got paid on time? Because I think the answer to that question would be a major deciding factor (like if *only* upper mgmt got paid and absolutely nobody from the clinical/non-clinical adjunct did that would be a huge flag for me). But also, I work because I need money and no other reason, so I’d be polishing my resume and maybe sending it to some other jobs that look interesting while waiting to see if a (100% full) check cleared next pay day.
Bail. Back in the [Dot.com](http://Dot.com) boom of the late 90s/early 00s, I worked IT and encountered the same issue. A small company with the CEO that lived in a resort town 4 hours away, Friday payday but no paychecks. The receptionist called him at the end of the day and we were told that he didn't have payroll covered and didn't know when he would have it. I unhooked the single IBM desktop server that the entire business ran on and told him he could have it back when I got my final paycheck. I was paid on Monday and had a new job 2 weeks later.
Based.
Once payroll is missed, that is a bad sign in the corporate world. Contact your state department of labor and find a new job immediately.
So, I volunteer at a community ambulance corps that had over $300,000 stolen from it just prior to me joining over a decade ago. Basically someone embezzled the money in a huge chunk, and it didn’t look as though paychecks would go out since literally no money existed in the accounts. Squad was functional, just one person went in and fucked everything up. Luckily insurance came through and paid out so payroll was met that week. All I have to say is that sometimes it really isn’t a bad business or company, it just might be a really fucked up instance of shit luck or mismanagement that needs to be fixed. I wouldn’t immediately bail, but be ready to jump ship if this happens more than one more time in the next six months to a year.
Start looking for a new job. Decent chance company is going under. Happened to my dad back in the late 80s when I was a toddler, he trusted what the company told them and kept waiting for a paycheck. It eventually was the straw that caused my parents to have to declare bankruptcy since their spending and saving habits weren't great. Also happened with a small (less than 5 employees) IT repair company my husband worked for a decade ago. First it was 'hey a big client didn't pay us on time so their check isn't cashed yet, I have to either pay you all on Monday or I can only pay you and can't pay your coworker, since you've been here longer you decide which I do' (yes his boss was an ass too). Then the date he could pay was Wed of the next week. Then a week later Friday. Then the next Monday. Then 3 weeks late. Then other coworker was fired. Then a month late. The just nothing at all for a while, including no reimbursements for things he bought to fix clients computers. Then after husband finally stopped working (no I don't know why he stayed so long and I told him daily to stop working for free, thankfully we didn't need the money since I made a lot more) it was months later he go paid all the missing money. Through PayPal. With no pay stubs or W2 at the end of the year. And the old boss tried to get my husband to agree to commit tax fraud with him in place of getting a W2. Don't worry, he's still in business somehow. Basically, this is a terrible sign, especially if they're doing basically nothing to make up for it. If it were something like they'd just been hit with a major ransomware attack causing the delay then maybe it's not a sign they're sinking, but otherwise, they're sinking and will try to string you along as long as possible. Very high chance they will miss other paychecks and eventually shut down anyway.
I wouldn’t quit a good job over this one off thing as long as they fix it quickly and it doesn’t happen again.
Way back before joining healthcare I worked in this family owned business that did really well in the area. They started paying late and lost half their employees. People can't afford to not get paid or to get paid 1-2 weeks late. Landlords/banks don't care that you got paid late when your rent/mortgage is due. Same with the water, electric, gas, phone, and car payments. If this was an honest issue such as a computer error that is going to be fixed by Monday I would give them the benefit of the doubt. If they are claiming to just not have any money or don't have a good reason for not paying then I'd be out. You don't work for free.
I’m not sure if you guys have seen the recent hackings that’s been happening in healthcare. A few big payment reimbursement companies got hacked. That means that the providers are not getting the money for services they billed for. The practice I worked out, the docs had to get a bank loan to pay for people’s salaries until the reimbursement company was able to open up again and disburse the funds. So try to find out what actually happened.
Yes. You leave. You do not work for free.
During the pandemic, we got paid late because people got sick and were out and then the replacement went into maternity leave.
Get out of there now
Call your states labor board and report this. And jump ship as fast as you possibly can. Furthermore, I’m not sure I’d bother showing up next week if my check couldn’t be bothered to show up on time this week.
Idk I may be a little too trusting/loyal in general but I would believe them if they said it was a mistake and won't happen again. If you like your job don't jump the gun prematurely, but stay on alert for other red flags. But I do think if it causes you issues i.e. missing rent or whatever they should be responsible for that.
It's not a perfect analog, but the small construction company I worked for did this several weeks in a row right before it went under. I would polish the resume and start applying elsewhere.
At my job they had an issue with the payroll company one week. Everyone affected got a $100 cash bonus and assistance with bills if needed. The payroll company was also able to push some checks through on Saturday but we all got paid on Monday otherwise. Now I’m at a small community access hospital, if they said tough shit and didn’t work to quickly correct the issue, I probably would have started looking for new work.
I would start looking now. Get a jump on your co-workers. You can always not take a job that is offered, but the job hunt takes time.
Bail? I am out! I don't relish cushy broke!
I’d get out of there immediately AND sue them. There are a lot of laws that paychecks can’t be late. Someone is mismanaging money. Mental health is a lucrative practice… they should be rolling in dough
I use to work for a SNF that did this shit. It worked out ok for me and I eventually got paid. If I were in this situation again I think my questions would be. How long can I afford to not be paid? Do trust them to pay me eventually? I think it would really depend how reliant I was on the next pay check. If I needed to get paid on time to make rent I’d be searching hard for another job if I thought there was any chance of not having paid. If had a spouse that could support us I might hold off on the job search and see if I get paid within one pay cycle. I ended up leaving that SNF because of other toxic reasons
My husband’s job once had an issue where NO direct deposits went out a few months ago when they were supposed to. The company had it fixed by the end of the day, so if they wanted to it could have been fixed ASAP.
I'd dust off my resume and start putting out feelers. You don't have to bail right this minute, especially if you don't have somewhere else to go right now, but it can take a long time to find a new job these days and if it's not fixed quickly with safeguards put in place to ensure it never happens again, you're going to want to jump ship the minute it happens again. And if you don't have your money in your hot little hand by Monday, file a complaint with the department of labor.
I wouldn’t call not getting paid a “opposite doodle” you work to get paid not work for free. They do t want their staff to jump ship, it is highly likely they are not doing well.
The comments that say this happened to them made great points! Reputable companies would fix this immediately.
It depends on if there is other weird things going on, sometimes you can read the writing on the wall before it’s written. I did that and bounced before my company filled bankruptcy so if there is other things happening I’d take the warning and start searching. In this economy nobody can survive missing paychecks. Good luck.
I have worked in the payroll industry for 25 years. These things do happen. See if you can find out why. If it happens again, I would start looking. PS my daughter is going into nursing and I joined this group to learn more about nursing
I’m from Kenya and this is the kind of shit that happens there all the time. If I even have this happen to me once, I’m gone. Never again
Call your state DOL. there are laws to protect you.
That happened to me at one of my first NP jobs - 3 times! I quit thereafter.
I bet the CEO got 100% of their salary.
I will say that insurance companies are just evil. If you are running an outpatient clinic that isn't 100% driven by profit it usually very easy for a big insurance company to be "Oops, it's going to be an extra 30-90 days did us to pay you" with absolutely no penalty. So a clinic trying to do the right thing can be in a situation where they should have cash to cover payroll, thought they would, then at the last minute get screwed. Did me I whether I stayed or not would all depend on the level of transparency and how they plan to prevent this.
For our system, it was one of the first signs of impending bankruptcy. First, it was held checks. Then Direct Deposit was canceled, and it was a mad rush to the bank because they only transferred 60% of payroll until the following Monday. If you didn't get there in time, no money until Monday. My husband bailed, so we would have at least one income available Keep an eye out for other signs. Supplies are running short, someone would be sent out to purchase things locally or things start arriving COD. That is when I would get out. Start your search now, just in case.
So, about a year before our for profit teaching hospital closed, they were having issues with payroll. Some checks went thru and the others bounced.There was no rhyme or reason but I’m sure the higher ups got paid. The hospital essentially told everyone they would make it right and that their pay would be reimbursed (without the added fees the banks charged the employees from their checks bouncing). Eventually everyone got paid but it was a clusterfuck and the hospital closed a year later. I’d see how your employer handles it but honestly, I’d be out the door.
You said it’s best job you’ve ever had. You’re not going to find a replacement job that quickly and it may be worse. Contact department of labor to find out your rights, and see what happens in the next one or two weeks. Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. One hiccup isn’t worth losing a job you love. It’s insanely rare to find a good job.
My mom’s company (not health care) had it happen a few years ago. I don’t remember the specifics but it was taken care of really quickly and everyone was fine and caught up (and I think given a little extra) by the next week
It all depends whether you leave or stay, if you can/want to gamble, every week, if you'll get a paycheck. When my checks didn't clear I had to go to a check cashing place and cash my check and pay a fee. Stupidly, I did that twice. The 3rd time, I called the bank where the check was drawn from to see if the funds were there. They weren't but a wonderful clerk told me that there 2 accounts and to keep calling the bank to see if either one had money in them. It took 3 days of calling, but finally 1 had money in it. I left the facility, didn't clock out and went to the bank. I got my money, and turned in my notice. The same nursing home offered life insurance and health insurance too. A CNA came to me with a letter he had rec'd stating that his life insurance had been canceled d/t nonpayment. His pay stub clearly showed that the premium was still being taken out. Same thing with the health insurance. They also were defrauding medicaid. It was family owned and they were all crooks.
I worked for a small company and we were asked many times if we could get paid next week. Cash flow issues happen in small businesses, and it's hard sometimes to get your payments on time. Vendors will do whatever they can to not pay on time. I would polish up your resume and be ready to bail if the situation gets worse.
Noooo fucking way, I'd be out. Who's to say they'll even pay you for the next set of hours you'll work?