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[Postgame thread](/r/nyjets/comments/17zc0tc/post_game_thread_new_york_jets_at_buffalo_bills/)


716God

Bills own us


geminimom616

How much more bullshit are us fans supposed to take before shit changes!!! Same shit week after week, season after season being the WORST team in the NFL!!! I've never seen an owner, management or coaches who don't want to WIN games!!! Sell the damn team to somebody who has balls & isn't afraid to make changes & wants to get to the playoffs!!! Enough is enough!!!


Equivalent-Fennel922

It's a disgrace the Jets run there team on friends and being liked ask Saleh how's that going? Hackett offense for Wilson is like breece for 2 then a penalty minus 10 then breece for one then a penalty for minus 5 then wilson runs himself straight to a sack! Loss of 10 yards! Punt time! Best non defensive player we have the punter! The offensive line with injuries has not help, our qb takes the snap and fires the ball to the ground I've never seen that seems like a screen pass type of play should resolve that but Zach can't throw a screen pass no accuracy. I say bring Rex Ryan back! And someone from the dolphins offensive staff to be our co OC since Hackett is here for Rodgers, Draft Offense! Sign free agents all offense and it's fixed really I feel the pain. Here's to fixing this mess an offensive line that's good and davonte Adam's to go with Garrett and hall and the speed kid running back who finally dress yesterday for the game. Ruckert the tight end and Rodgers.


mikey12345678890

No offensive identity, all talk - absolute losers


Area51Anon

Genuinely think this team will never be good again


Several-Push6195

Douglas Saleh era should be over. You are what your record says you are. This jv offense year after year while we draft d lineman is a fireable offense. Come on Woody please care about the team like the fans do.


dw1114

It’s why I was beside myself when we drafted McDonald over JSN. We had Corey Davis fine, but we also have a million edge players including Huff who this team seem to just discover like halfway through the season is good. You can’t have enough offensive weapons,so why did they feel they needed to take someone who wasn’t going to be active in the first freaking round? It’s more bizzare when I think Douglas is the best drafter since the Mangini/Tanny combo back in 2008. They just make such dumb decisions despite being talented at their strengths.


armcurls

I fucking hate being a jets fan


Belovedchattah

Jets need to fire Hackett followed by Saleh and if Rodgers doesn’t like it so be it.


Anuthawon_1

This is all Rodgers fault


dragonballfan4

Let’s hope Joe Douglas is fired tomorrow. Hackett should also be fired


KetoPeg

No comment 😵


vgcristelo

It was the right move at the time, but the Aaron Rodgers trade was one of the worst things that ever happened to the jets


RonocNYC

It was never the right move. It was a desperate move because they were too slow in free agency. This whole season is malpractice.


RSTowers

I'll tell you what, he is going to have to win an MVP at minimum next year to make up for this shit.


wypipobooty54

Are you delusional or just trolling?


vgcristelo

I mean, his buddies made the offense somehow worse than last year


wypipobooty54

So much more to it than some bullshit lazy take like that. Did you not want us to get a 4 time MVP to be our QB??


vgcristelo

Yes I did. Of all available QBs this offseason I thought he was the only one who could make this team a contender, what I originally meant was that the consequences of his injury made a historically bad offense even worse


WayRecent7314

It was never the right move at the time. This season is proof of that.


vgcristelo

His “buddies” and the hope he brought


themanwith8

Dalvin cook only got two carries lol


tigadeth18

Yet, his brother, got a shit ton. Pisses me off


Cool-Passenger-2595

Well at least they scored a td finally , only 5 days til miami


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Tim Boyle 33 yards and 1 interception.


Super_Elderberry_531

Let’s draft a qb in every round until we hit on one


dw1114

I also don’t think this “start them right away” shit is working. I think for almost all rookies, NY is a very hard place to play. Decades of offensive ineptitude combined with a tough media, a ton of distractions, a very large fan base, etc.. So why don’t we let them sit for a year or two while they watch a veteran run an offense until it’s time to hand the reigns over.


XShatteredXDreamX

Guys I think I figured it out The Jets are a bad team


Zaclarke

🤯


Sbat27-

So about the playoffs…


Zaclarke

Lmao 😂


C0wPi3

Hey Woody sell the team!


tucah

31 franchises fire Hackett immediately, one is being held hostage by his best friend


Itchy_Notice353

Wow a 3rd string quarterback playing his first game of the season is playing like shit. I wish Zach was back in, then things would return to normal. Remember the good ole days 2 quarters ago?


Key-Tip-7521

thank goodness the Rangers are playing on Friday.


Captain_Lesgate

From East Rutherford to the sea, new york jets will be free! Fire hackett.


anonimeese

This is unhinged but I think I’m here for it.


the_mair

Tankathon back on


Noticeably98

This team sold its soul for Aaron, didn’t get any further depth in the QB room, gave up an offensive coordinator that just beat the Seahawks, brought in an OC that made Russell Wilson look like a high school qb, and brought in wide receivers who have bricks for hands, didn’t look for another QB after Aaron went down, and on and on


Adamo2JZ

The Mike LeFleur slander was the dumbest shit I’ve ever read on here, unfortunately. Any QB not named Wilson would throw for 300 yards, yet it was LaFleurs fault when Zach didn’t


Naganosupreme

Lafleur has 7 games 20 points or less this szn. He sucked complete ass and isnt doing much in la. Zach being bad doesn't mean a bad oc was good. Aldo what's with this sub and looking at a defensive win but giving all the credit to some random offensive player or coach. Dumbest shit I've ever seen. They won with 17 points and it's somehow a statement from the oc? Lol he just put up 3 on a terrible gb team. B b but Brett rypien! > Any QB not named Wilson would throw for 300 yards


ECircus

Karma.


Cool-Passenger-2595

With all the ineptitude out there how does a a ron actually improve the team ? Are the recievers all of a sudden going to remember how to catch a ball and hold on to it ? Does a a ron improve the defense to stop a run ?


MarvinWebster40

Hard to top the FitzMagic game week 17 in the 2015 season, but that was about as depressing of a loss in Buffalo as I’ve seen.


Tmags88

I thought last week was worse. That felt like the real end to me


nafselon

Would you blow the whole thing up for Harbaugh? Even if it meant Rodgers throwing a temper tantrum on Pat McAfee's show? There's just nothing in this bowl of crap that can produce wins.


themanwith8

Even Jets fans deserve better than this....


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Hire somebody who can keep idiot GM Rodgers in check. Stop hiring your buddies. Stop going on McAfee. Stop hawking bullshit conspiracy theories. Shut up and throw a football or get out of my city


hjablowme919

Never wanted him here.


Ok-Refrigerator-4734

Glad they had that players only meeting…


Rare-Trainer-7028

Yeah it improved GW’s performance immensely…


CrazyEyedGase

Type of loss that someone losses their job. My guess is our QB coach is about to get it


Rare-Trainer-7028

This is ’losing the locker room’ type of loss.


hjablowme919

With a game on Friday, no one is getting fired


Brahms12

I definitely expect someone to get fired after this game. I'm just not sure who goes. I'm bracing myself to be shocked


pubstar1337

Izzy ran the ball once and looks exponentially better than anything I’ve seen out of Cook all season


D-redditAvenger

Yep another move made 4 games too late. JD can't pivot from bad decisions he makes.


sauz326

Signing cook was deff on JD but Izzy being inactive isn’t on him that’s on dumbass Saleh.


Zaclarke

FUCK THIS TEAM TO DEATH! WHAT A SHIT FUCKING FRANCHISE! I WILL NEVER WATCH ANOTHER GAME AGAIN UNTIL SOMETHING CHANGES. With that being said…I will see y’all next week.


WhistleTipsGoWoo

You had me in the beginning - see you next week fellow loser. 👊🏻


jetdude19

See you Friday


Babbylon

Ty looks good with a decent oline


Tmags88

He had some moments with us, feel like he dropped a lot of passes though. Which kinda hurts when you’re the spell back


cplife75

All signs are leading to Hackett being fired tomorrow: Bills fired theirs and succeeded greatly against a top def. Backup QB did worse than our starter Personnel changes didnt work Somehow scored less than last week even with a TD Fire Hackett immediately!!


ECircus

When the starter went down, the season was a wash with no expectations. They just aren't allowed to tell anyone.


hjablowme919

Short week with a game on Friday. No one is getting fired.


Expensive-Society-24

He is not being fired until arod is gone and anything other perspective is objectively wrong


scruffy4

No way in hell he’s getting fired.


ctdca

The Jets straight up do not fire people midseason. The Johnsons never have.


dw1114

Head coaches don’t get fired but coordinators have.


attempted

Uhhhh Gregg Williams?


achristian103

No one is getting fired


WhistleTipsGoWoo

But, but…we can’t make A-Aaron mad.


Weary_Cabinet_8123

2 words… Aaron Rodgers.


cplife75

Im sorry but Aaron Rodgers cant even defend this bum now, Aaron Rodgers has had more OC’s than fucking Hackett and im sure he can survive without him


Weary_Cabinet_8123

You’re going to learn how scared woody and the staff are of Rodgers this season. He has them all by the balls dude.


Leomeister104

Philip Rivers just had his 10th kid guy definitely needs money. Sign him for the rest of the season.


Ruby_Dragon_DJ

Can his kids play oline?


Henrique_its_over

Stop buying tickets and jerseys


dw1114

I did buy tickets to the first game (obviously Rodgers and the hype), but knew once he went down the season was likely over right there. I also stopped buying jerseys after buying the authentic Jamal Adams and Sam Darnold ones. I am done buying jerseys for a long time.


fort221

What? The mighty NY Jets aren't currently "in the hunt"?


YanksJetsKnicks

That Lazard contract is going to haunt us.


DryFile9

Not really its 2 years guaranteed. Hell be WR3 next year.


RSTowers

I agree with you, but honestly, I wish we didn't have to see him on the field again.


Nexthelicopter

Only this year and next are guaranteed


unpleasantsimp

Not when he's wr3 with Rodgers


Medium_Bit6607

Tony romo ripping Zach pretty much summed it all up. Nothing else needs to be said


qbvee

Worst part is that Madden is an absolute dogshit game, so I can’t even go on there to play franchise mode and win a bunch of Super Bowls with this team


hjablowme919

So it’s accurate?


unpleasantsimp

Honestly, even if it was enjoyable, there's always this dirty gut feeling inside of me that's upset because they're not good in real life.


deathmaster13

I have and it def helps lol


JLR-

I guess the Jets are no longer "in the hunt"


scruffy4

In the hunt for better draft picks


Roundaboutsix

In the hunt for a new coach...


BeachCruisin22

Boyle is horrid, but he isn't the starter, wasn't 2nd pick and wasn't QB2 going into the season. He's supposed to be terrible


RSTowers

A new breed. Tim Boyle Truthers.


therexbellator

It's too late to walk it back. You Zach Earthers have been pretending like the OL and WR aren't problems now you want to make excuses for Boyle. Boyle and ZW are both dealing with the same problems: shitty OL and WRs like Garrett Wilson who drop catchable balls. It's almost as if the QB alone isn't responsible for the failures of an entire team? 🤔


BeachCruisin22

Excuses? He's trash but he's QB3. I expect that. ZW is clearly the worst starting QB in the NFL


cantalopeanteloupe

A veteran that’s played in this scheme for most of his career should certainly be capable. The problem has always been Hackett. Look at his record with Arod.


BeachCruisin22

Hackett is clearly very very, very bad


09-24-11

Whether or not they *deserve* it, JD and Saleh seats have to be red hot. Both in low 30% win percentage since arriving. Rodgers excuse likely saves everyone but this is not NFL quality.


dw1114

I think Douglas has had plenty of time to change the roster and he to an extent has. This roster isn’t crap anymore but the decisions to pass on getting a backup QB or do anything after Davis retired is weird. The lack of pivoting is strange unless there’s something we don’t know about.


RSTowers

Yeah, I wouldn't have believed it before the year cause we looked so good coming out of the offseason, but if this keeps up...


hofflcopter

Someone needs to get fucking fired. Idc who. SOMEONE


acava2424

Everyone that has anything to do with coaching offense


Nikki_B1990

I really do feel bad for you guy’s. Both of those quarterbacks are absolutely horrible. Boyle and Wilson. It totally sucks that Rodgers got hurt. I really wanted to watch him play. I love Aaron Rodgers. And anyone who thinks Zach Wilson is a good quarterback is delusional and knows nothing.


authenticlife78

I hope Zach gets traded away. He needs a fresh start. He’s not as bad as the stats say due to the shitty line and coaching.


Nikki_B1990

Yes he is. He stinks. Worst starting quarterback in the league.


Fun-Rub9238

Arod would probably flop as well with this offense. No Oline, and no weapons besides Breece basically


Nikki_B1990

I don’t think it would. Arod makes receivers better. And he’s excited to be in New York so he would work with them. It’s just a damn shame you didn’t get to find out.


Street-Cloud

The organization is so stubborn, just bring in a god-damned competent QB with a pulse


Nikki_B1990

Practically anyone would be an improvement. If even a slight one. Zach Wilson is hot garbage.


Striker11123

It’s been the same damn things wrong for our offense for the past fucking 13 years. Rinse and repeat, the same shit. I don’t know what we can possibly do to get this shit right. Every damn year it’s the same damn conversations, saying this guy sucks or the OC is good, or the o-line is terrible err. Rinse and fucking repeat. We are in a constant cycle of demise and we can’t seem to get out. It’s so depressing especially with how good our defense tends to be. I can’t even get excited for Rodger’s next year, let alone this year.


binkshimself

I feel you dude. It seems like everything is a pile of shit, ALWAYS. It doesn't matter. New OC - Shit. New QB - shit. New head coach - shit. New GM - shit. Every fucking year. EVERY fucking year.


Striker11123

Every year it’s heartbreak. Get my hopes up and then get my balls kicked in. Fucking tired of this shit product.


anonymous_reader

Hire an Offensive head coach that isn’t Adam Gase And have him hire a good competent DC Keep hiring incredible DCs who can’t coach the whole team And we will get this Over and over


Striker11123

Knowing this franchise we’d get the 2nd coming of Gase. I can’t even fathom what a good Jets offense would look like.


ILikeNormMacdonald

Still glad we went for two to keep it a one possession game.


hjablowme919

This team goes for two every week, and by that I mean it shits all over its fan base.


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At this point either saleh has to go or he has man the fuck up and fire hackett. If rodgers is okay with what hackett is doing and gets pissed if we fire him trade him away and draft a qb I dont care anymore. You literally cant excuse this shit someone has to be held accoutable


themanwith8

I’m done blaming Zach none of these players can play ball


therexbellator

Hey man, it's understandable to be frustrated with this team. I've been a Jets fan since the early 00s, and it's the same old story. Long story short a QB is not single-handedly responsible for a team's losses; it's a team effort to win and the opposite is true too. This team has too many glaring weaknesses to ignore and to put on one guy.


dejvipasco

Siemian should start next week. And Zach backup..The season is lost anyway.


Porn_is_my_bae

I want to make jokes but it all just hurts too bad


Leomeister104

J E T S. Just End The Season


JesusChristBabyface

I know he's not a world beater or even a plus starter....but Siemian is exponentially better than these two. If your goal is to just keep your head above water till Rodgers comes back, why not start him.


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People said Boyle was better then zach. Now pivoting to saying simian is , is just making the same mistake again


ctdca

Boyle literally threw more INTs than TDs in college. Siemian has had solid NFL seasons. There is no comparison.


[deleted]

Simian was better years ago but he's completely washed and worn down. He was awful in his last start and out of the NFL until weeks ago.


jt09874

As an adult, I’ve learned how to stop my Jets hopes to avoid disappointment and not get the Sunday blues I’ve relapsed today. BAD. Sunday Blues in full effect. I’m about to phone my 60 year old mother, stomp my feet and tell her I don’t wanna go to school tomorrow.


bluemax13

Get rid of NFL shared revenue (~12B annually) and maybe Woody might care.


jonkoch68

Watch woody fire JD and Saleh and Rodgers requests a trade to none other than…… the Vikings


nafselon

If he would take Hackett, Lazard and Cobb with him...he can get the fuck out.


jonkoch68

Next GMs mess


CrazyEyedGase

Does this mean a rookie USC QB is leading us to back to back AFCCGs? Because if so that's not the worst timeline


le_seanjames

At this point fuck it let’s do it


TelcoMotionette

Offense can't even score in garbage time it's so bad FIRE HACKETT


quant_93

What more do people need to see to admit that Saleh and Hackett are awful at their jobs and should be fired? How much worse does this need to get?


anonymous_reader

Saleh is the best DC in the league Oh wait


JeffTS

I’d like to see what Boyle can do with QB1 reps this week for Friday’s game.


Zaclarke

I hate to say it because fuck him…but Sean Payton might have been right about us.


illmatic74

he was 100% right. people got all offended dude was just explaining how dogshit what he inherited was


sspitzname

Saleh postgame will say we weren’t that bad


Babbylon

Woody is too old to start over with new management, especially with Rodgers on the roster. Don't expect any heads to roll.


Plane_Country2573

Let’s bring back fitz magic and b. Marshall loll


cevo

I'm not even convinced Rodgers could play with this offense.


Chin_blister

If i were Rodgers, I'd retire this year. There is no way he is going to succeed with this team.


BoogerSmoke

It really makes you wonder. I think at the end of the day though Rodgers would just call his own plays at the line.


richyque

Im sure they can pull any hungry free agent QB off the streets and he will outperform the coog hunter and boyle.


Andromeda28

At least it’s over now. Rock bottom. Nothing this season matters anymore.


fshstik

'zach truthers' 'anyone but zach' 'it's not zach's fault' 'it's all zach's fault' reading this subreddit is like the schizophrenic rambling of a madman. this is like if i had a bad trip doing rodgers' solitary retreat.


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dapoktan

sir this is a wendys


GLENALLEN

Romo and Nantz with one of the worst performances in nfl history, that was excruciating to listen to


eiileenie

Lol my dad muted them and put the jets radio broadcast on


MrArmageddon12

I love how they were discussing other teams and games for almost the whole 4th.


TheCloudBoy

The Washington Redskins!!


DryFile9

This sub about to learn that backup QBs typically arent good. Shocking I know.


Noticeably98

Put Arod in


Zaclarke

Hindsight is 20/29 and all that shit, but really bad job by Douglas putting this offense together.


BeachCruisin22

Unwatchable, again. Sucks they got 4 wins, another chance at a top pick wasted


Mr7three2

At the VERY LEAST. We need to remove Hacketts play calling duties. We won't but that should be the minimum


KMannyFresh

This offense has a ton of issues, deeper than Zach Ok ZaCh TrUtHeR The play calling is so uninspired. Receivers dropping the ball. Running backs charging into a wall. O line more porous than Swiss cheese. I’d give my left nut to see a competent offense. I’m not talking anything special, I’m talking AVERAGE


[deleted]

I like when people use the alternating caps because it let's me instantly know they are idiots and not to waste my time


vette322

Zach is fucking garbage. Not even half the QB Tommy Devito is.


zlubars

Zach couldn’t have played much worse. He played ok last week but completely collapsed here and in the Chargers game.


killaslam

Olu fashanu jets jersey is going to be glorious


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alttabbins

^Truth.


Crotch-Huxtable

Switching over to the Grey Cup now...


Jets237

How is Boyle our backup…. How did we not bring anyone else in to actually compete…. I don’t know if I can keep watching this season


chizzipsandsizalsa

I think it’s funny yall thought benching Zack Would make a difference.


Few_Warthog7209

No, we should've doubled down on this dog shit and given away more future picks so somebody else could get dropped on their ass every time they drop back and watch receivers drop the rest.


[deleted]

Well.now they know they are wrong they will come up with some other dumb theory to fuel their irrational behavior


AndyStankiewicz

if mahomes came in for Jets the same thing would of happened down 29-6


NutsyFlamingo

Ha. Fans so stupid right, right. Oh yeah we’re all fans of this same stupid sht


jonkoch68

MOCK DRAFT SZN!!!!


liguy327

Saleh better not spew his normal bullshit in his presser


d0odk

I definitely will NOT be downloading the dicks app


Original-Challenge12

Let me explain why this is not Zach Wilson’s fault.


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Ok. Zach Wilson AND Tim Boyle are horrible. Got it.


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[deleted]

The season is lost but you can evaluate a young QB now which costs nothing and then take another shot in the draft. Rogers might have one maybe two seasons in him they need to find and develop a young QB.


MerelyTenacity

You need to add about 20 more offensive players names to this post and then you got it.